0:00Joanne and good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
0:02Welcome to the March 4th, 2026 meeting of the Danbury Planning Commission.
0:06We will open with the roll call.
0:14Um, Chairman Finaldi is here.
0:18Um I don't know if the email went just to me, Joanne, or to everybody, but it appears, Commission members, that we may have for the first time in a very long time, an alternate joining the uh the um planning commission.
0:31And Joanne, what was there?
0:32Uh was there a meeting last night or something?
0:43Um, there was a council meeting last night.
0:45It was on the agenda, so just a formality that they have to approve it, but then she has to come in and get sworn in.
0:50And I didn't think I could pull it all together in time for tonight.
0:55It was on the consent calendar, so it's a it's a go.
0:58Eva Vega, three Crane Street, Danbury Connecticut.
1:02So be happy to have an alternate.
1:04That'll um that'll be good for the first time in a very long time.
1:07Yeah, as soon as I get her email address, I will uh send her an email and let you guys in on it.
1:12Her email address too.
1:14And um, but right now I don't have a phone number or an email address.
1:18And today was just too crazy at the office.
1:21No problem at all, Joe.
1:23We'll look forward to it.
1:24Okay, I'll open with the Zoom intro.
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2:40Um, before I get too far into the agenda, just wanted to make an announcement.
2:44Um if you look at our agenda this evening, item two.
2:49Danbury Mill Plain Realty LLC.
2:52We did receive a request today in writing from uh attorney Joshua Pedrera uh request uh advising us there will be no testimony on this application this evening and requesting an extension of time until our next meeting.
3:05So I'll read the actual letter at the appropriate time, but I wanted to be sure to notify anyone uh tuning in this evening on the matter of Danbury Mill Plain Road Realty LLC that we will not be hearing any testimony on that application this evening.
3:25Uh the minutes of the February 18th, 2026 meeting were previously distributed.
3:30Unless there's any discussion, I will entertain a motion to accept those minutes.
3:35Chairman, I'll make a motion to accept the minutes.
3:43All in favor, please say aye.
3:49The minutes are accepted.
3:50Uh let the record show our next regular meeting is scheduled for March 18th, 2026.
3:56Um with that, we'll get right to the first public hearing this evening.
4:02The first and only public hearing this evening, and I will read the legal notice first.
4:06Legal notice and notice is hereby given that the planning commission of the city of Danbury will hold a public hearing commencing at 7 p.m.
4:13on Wednesday, March 4th, 2026, in a web-based meeting hosted on Zoom to consider the following matter.
4:20Western Connecticut Council on Alcoholism Inc.
4:23Application for revised special exception, revised site plan approval for interior renovations to existing dependency treatment center, sections 5B2B, 11 in the CA80 zone 38 Old Ridgebury Road, C16024, special exception number 799.
4:40A copy of this application is on file in the planning and zoning office for public inspection.
4:44Parties and interest and citizens shall have an opportunity to be heard at this time.
4:49The meeting agenda will be post to to be posted will include instructions on how to access the Zoom meeting and application materials or view the meeting in real time on YouTube.
5:02Chairman posted city website and town clerk's office on February 19th, 2026.
5:07Published in News Times on February 20th and 27th, 2026.
5:12Purchase order 2026-002.
5:16Is there anyone wishing to speak in favor of this application?
5:28At least at least you're not calling me an attorney.
5:33No, I I like you, Mike.
5:34I wouldn't say that about you.
5:37Yes, for the record, Mike Mizuko, a professional engineer.
5:40My office is in Damry representing the applicant MCCA on this application for a really more of a renovation, interior renovation.
5:52In August of 2024, we came before the commission for a site plan and special exception approval for an addition to the southern end of the building.
6:04And uh during that time period between then and now, or slightly uh, you know, maybe last end of last year.
6:10The the applicant had sought bids, they had pretty much full architectural plans done and saw bids to to complete the project, and they were just uh the numbers were coming in way too high, and they just felt it was probably better or more prudent use of money to take and relocate their office space and convert that into bed space, which was the main reason why they were proposing the addition in the first place.
6:39So that being said, I mean, I can walk you through real quickly.
6:43We're not really doing uh too much in terms of the site plan work and exterior work, but I'll I'll share my screen and we'll just go through that really uh quickly.
6:56Joanne, I think do you need to?
7:12Okay, is everybody seeing my screen?
7:17So, yeah, this is the existing building, Larson Drive here, old Ridgberry Road here.
7:26Um, and you can see the surrounding areas.
7:28The the site sits in the CA80 zone, it's uh 3.85 acres.
7:35And I will just are just area maps that I included initially and felt that they're probably still somewhat important.
7:44It is on the Lake Kenosha class two watershed, but thankfully we're really not doing any earth disturbance activities.
8:01So essentially, what they're doing is remodeling this shaded section of the existing upper floor.
8:11And so uh I can show you uh the floor plans, and the only other thing that we're doing on the exterior was we felt that it was still wise to they had some parking spaces in this loading area that we wanted to remove to make that more uh conducive to get a vehicle in there and into the loading dock.
8:36So we were eliminating those couple spaces and proposing an island there.
8:40That some sidewalk work, which we did carry over most of the comments from the original uh approval conditions and review comments from construction services regarding the sidewalk and some other things with regard to traffic engineer, the traffic engineer.
9:03Uh, we we kept a lot of that stuff of the same.
9:07Other than that, they just want to put a fence around this existing patio for privacy.
9:14And so, yeah, that's really the extent of it.
9:18It does add, you know, converting the office space to beds, just increases the flows about 1100 gallons overall, but not uh not as much as it was before on the previous uh addition proposal.
9:44And we also kept the landscaping.
9:48Felt that that was still something that was warranted.
9:53So that's still uh part of the proposal for the interior renovations.
10:04This is the main front entrance here, and then you're looking sort of the north at the north end of the building.
10:23Let me try that again.
10:36So then again, this is looking sort of across the entrance.
10:40There's the entrance walkway, and you're looking at the southern end of the building, and that's where that's where the renovations are proposed.
10:47And there is a little hard to see, but there is a little patio in that area.
11:03Okay, that was weird.
11:05Anyway, this is this is the southern end of the building that's being renovated, and then this is just on Larson Drive, looking sort of north, and this is the old existing floor plan.
11:28Just zoom in a little bit more.
11:42Sorry, I can't slide that over a little bit.
11:44Um so again, it's it's just it's this area here that's being renovated, and it's just the upper floor.
11:58And John Doramo's on the call too.
12:02If I'm misdating something, please jump in and correct me.
12:06And then this is again that same area.
12:11There's our patio, and then just the area that's being uh renovated and shows the the beds and layout and uh um office library and some other things that they're proposing.
12:30So that's sort of the the gist of it.
12:33I know we got comments back from construction services, building department regarding the handicap, engineering and fire marshal, and they're all okay.
12:44And Allie did submit a staff report.
12:47I think we're just still waiting on the traffic engineer.
12:52But again, I don't, these are just uh more like housekeeping items.
12:56Um again, it's uh kind of a very low-key uh proposal.
13:03So with that, I would be happy to answer any questions that you may have.
13:07And if you want to look at any of the plans, just let me know, and I'll get I'll get right to them.
13:12Mike, quick question are they moving the offices off-premises?
13:19Yeah, it just was more important to have the beds, and that was the main reason why they were doing the addition in in the first place.
13:27But again, it was just a little more prudent to do this, and you know, there's a lot more availability for office space everywhere around the city, so it just made sense to do it this way.
13:44So Mike, what we're looking at is what it's gonna look like.
13:46That's that's where that's what the beds uh the rooms with the beds and are are gonna look like now.
13:52Um right now, what as far as the off, is there a lot of renovation going on to make it look like this?
13:57What or the off are there's those offices basically, and you're just gonna keep it the way it looks like the way it looks.
14:05Yeah, I mean, in terms of I can just go back to the so this is what it looks like now.
14:12So it's basically from here.
14:14We're doing some renovating to the bathrooms just to make them more accessible and having you know showers and things like that.
14:22And you can see on when I flip back to the other the other uh page.
14:25But this is but this is just a you know, just more of just there's not really anything structural, it's just more of just reorganizing the space to turn it into to this.
14:38Okay, so not a lot of change really, but no, no, the bathrooms are in the same spot, you know.
14:44They have a washer and dryer here, laundry area, so it's um, yeah, no, no, it's not it's not huge at all, and especially it's not really altering the exterior of the building at all.
15:00Yeah, Mike, well, will there be any any offices uh administration on site now, or all that will be totally off site?
15:04Well, I think there's gonna be some there are some offices.
15:07There's obviously there's a need for some office space to manage the clients.
15:14But the admin the more of the administrative, I want to say administrative, but the business administrative offices, I should say.
15:22Yeah, will be off-site.
15:28And then you had mentioned um the the landscaping um and the sidewalk.
15:34So whatever um was agreed to in that original plan that you're gonna you're gonna carry the that over to this uh in addition.
15:45Any other questions from Mike at this point from anyone?
15:49Um I just have a quick one.
15:50It's uh maybe just a knit, but on the engineering documents.
15:57Well, I think it was let me hang on.
15:59Um building department.
16:02They had um an item that said slip surf slip resistance surfaces, and it says not shown.
16:10So is that acceptable or does that need to change?
16:13I guess is the question.
16:15Uh well, all of the if you look at the pictures back.
16:31Um, it is it there's all concrete, they're all concrete sidewalks, so they're all non-slip.
16:39I guess that doesn't matter then.
16:41All right, thank you.
16:43Anything else from Mike at this point from anyone?
16:47Is there anyone else wishing to speak in favor of this application?
16:54I can't say oh, there you are, Paul.
16:58Paul Rotano, 13 wooden place at Anbury.
17:00Um I I represent the sixth ward where this is located, uh, along with Councilman Shanasian have for the past 25, 30 years.
17:10And and we've been through um proposals from MCCA, who I consider to be a great asset to the community and a good neighbor many times in the past.
17:19We've supported them.
17:21Uh we've acted as a liaison between MCCA and the condominium associations nearby gotten them together and you know, put a little oil on the water and smooth some feathers and things like that.
17:32Um they're a great neighbor.
17:34Uh I I support this particular uh uh proposal.
17:38I can't speak for Ben, he's not here tonight.
17:40I I assume that he does um I I will say that while the impact on the neighborhood has has never been great, it's also not zero.
17:50Um Ben knows a little bit more about this than I do because he actually lives in that neighborhood.
17:55I live a couple of miles away, but we're we're up there all the time, and I've never heard any complaints or anything like that from from the uh from the residents that live nearby.
18:04The businesses have no issues at all.
18:06But there are a lot of family condominiums and kids waiting on bus stops, and some of these issues come up from time to time, but so far for the last 10 or 15 years, it hasn't been an issue.
18:19But the question I that I would have is it will there be with with the additional uh beds and people coming in, will there be in I don't I don't imagine that there would be, but I need to get this on the record.
18:32Mazuko see or is is his uh um uh client see any particular uh increase in traffic or people milling around uh coming and going and things like that that might have a visible impact uh on the uh on the neighborhood.
18:47Obviously, if they're not going to increase the size of the building, there's not really going to be much of an outdoor construction issue.
18:54And apparently it's going to continue to look the same.
18:57So you won't really know what's going on.
18:59But with more people, there might be more traffic and there might be more hangers on people walking up and out sidewalks.
19:05So that would be the question.
19:06But again, I I support the proposal.
19:10What we'll do is we'll take that question through the chair.
19:13I'll call the opposition and then I'll give Mr.
19:17Um, is there anyone else wishing to speak in favor of this?
19:20I think we could take down the shared screen.
19:22I don't know if that was Mike or Joanne, but take down the shared screen.
19:27Anyone anyone else wishing to speak in favor of this application?
19:29Anyone else in favor?
19:33My name is Ellen Maury, M-A-R-I.
19:35I live in Kensington Woods on Larson Drive.
19:39Um, I'm I was just interested to hear what was going on with this, and also the other one, which got tabled for the next meeting.
19:47But I will say that uh I have lived here for 24 years, and they have been a good neighbor.
19:53I mean, we have not had any problems with them whatsoever.
20:00And um, you know, I would just hope that there are administrative people on site when this change happens because you need them to um you know manage the situations there, you know, if anything comes up, but I see no problem with it.
20:20And as I said, I mean I can literally walk there from my condo.
20:23And they've been a good neighbor all these years.
20:27Uh thank you, Ellen.
20:28Could you again repeat your full name and address just for the record?
20:31Sure, it's Ellen Maury, M-A-R-I 502, Larson Drive.
20:38Thank you very much for your comments.
20:40Is there anyone else wishing to speak in favor of this application?
20:43Anyone else in favor?
20:45Is there anyone wishing to speak in opposition to this application?
20:48Anyone in opposition?
20:50Is there anyone wishing to speak in opposition to this application?
20:55Uh well, we have a looks like a fairly straightforward and simple application.
21:00Allie, I don't think we're waiting for anything, are we?
21:05Razigo mentioned that we were waiting for traffic earlier.
21:08Um, we are not given the scope of this project.
21:10It was not transmitted to the traffic engineer for review.
21:15Well, commission members, um, unless there's anything of yeah, go ahead, Bob.
21:21Chairman, could you um maybe have a mic and uh or the applicant respond to uh Paul's question?
21:28I forgot about that.
21:32What do you think about Paul Rotello's question?
21:35Well, I'll speak on behalf of the parking and I'll I'll let John weigh in on uh just the program.
21:43Uh, in my discussions with him, it was gonna be a situation was probably gonna be less traffic in and out, but uh let him speak on that.
21:51When I did the comparison of the parking required for the existing office space, there wasn't any additional required, and we're able to show that the existing parking spaces was sufficient for the change in use, is what I'm calling it.
22:10But again, I'll let John just speak on the other side of that.
22:18I'm the president CEO for MCCA.
22:21Uh thank you for uh having us here tonight.
22:24Um, so what I have is 12 um staff, administrative staff that will be leaving the building.
22:31These are myself, my um uh executive secretary, human resource department, and um my quality assurance and billing.
22:40So it's that's more on the administrative side.
22:43To answer the other question, each program in the building, there's outpatient withdrawal management, uh, McDonough House, and this new program all have a program director that are going to be present in the building.
22:57And there's also a residential clinical director that will have an office in the building.
23:03I'll be back and forth to the building as well.
23:05Um so I foresee that there'll be less traffic because we have 12 people leaving, and the new staffing should be four to five people for the new program on the day shift.
23:17Um the clients, the 16 clients are in early recovery.
23:21Um, and most of them don't have a vehicle.
23:23Um, so they're not, you know, they're not going to add additional vehicles.
23:28Um the evening shift and night shift is only two staff that monitor the program.
23:33Two staff on the evening shift, two staff on the night shift, um, as well as the other programs, um, all have a minimal of two staff in them as well.
23:42So overall, if you do, you know, a count of 12 going out and those uh folks coming in.
23:48I think we're probably a little, you know, under for what we uh we were having with the 12 staff coming every day with a vehicle.
23:58Doromo, for that clarification.
24:01Um I uh is Ellie mentioned that we're not waiting for any departmental reports.
24:11There really isn't uh anything else of significance we're waiting for.
24:15And then commission members, unless there's an objection, I'll entertain a motion to close the public hearing.
24:21Chairman, I'll make a motion to close the public hearing.
24:24Bob, do I hear a second?
24:29All in favor, please say aye.
24:33Um, I'll entertain a motion to move this to it if if it's if it's so moved if it's okay with the commission.
24:39Move this to item one under old business for discussion of possible action.
24:42Would anybody like to make that motion?
24:45Chairman, I'll make that motion to move it to uh, you know, the next phase here.
24:56We'll take that from Sydney.
25:00All in favor, please say aye.
25:03We will this will be item one under our old business for discussion and possible action agenda.
25:08Thank you, everyone, uh, for your presentation.
25:12We're going to go right to um that was our only new public hearing this evening, right to continuation of public hearings.
25:18BRT Sconset LLC application for revised special exception site plan approval for an existing previously approved cluster development, the ridgetop sections 482B3 and 486 in the RA40 zone, 10 Damia Drive, F09036, special exception number 589.
25:39The matter was tabled at the February 4th and February 18th meetings.
25:44Is there anyone wishing to speak in favor of this application?
25:50Uh this is uh Steve Sullivan, uh professor engineer with Haley Wars.
25:54Um so it's been about a month uh since we saw you last.
25:58Um so I just want to go over a couple changes uh based on staff review and revisions associated with those comments.
26:07Um I assume Joe and I can share.
26:20Has that popped up on your end?
26:24So um we went through a round of um planning department and engineering department comments and made those revisions.
26:31Um there are numerous uh notes added and we made clarifications uh to some of the questions uh that both departments uh had.
26:42Um really the biggest change uh in my opinion for your for this commission is that we do have two sidewalks, two raised sidewalks on both sides of this loop road, and the loop road is 20 feet wide.
26:55Uh that was the fire marshal's uh request.
26:58Um but and then I think uh towards the end of last week, we got some final uh comments from the planning department and engineering department.
27:11Um it was our opinion that those comments are there's no deal breakers, they could be conditions in our opinion.
27:18Um I think I believe all the other departments and Ali could could weigh in, but all the other departments were uh satisfied with our latest set of uh of plans and revisions.
27:36Any questions for Steve?
27:39Is there oh sorry, Bob?
27:41Just one quick question.
27:42Uh on the loop road, is is that a one-way road?
27:46Kind of uh was that count counterclockwise?
27:49Yeah, you're you're yeah, I see the arrows you're going this way.
27:58Anything else for Steve?
28:01Is there anyone else wishing to speak in favor of this application?
28:05Anyone else in favor?
28:06Is there anyone else wishing to speak in favor of this application?
28:10Is there anyone wishing to speak in opposition to this application?
28:14Anyone in opposition?
28:16Is there anyone wishing to speak in opposition to this application?
28:20Um Allie, I guess from the planning department perspective and engineering.
28:25Have have all the questions been answered to your satisfaction?
28:29Uh yes, there's no deal breakers.
28:31Um, so if the commission does want to close the public hearing, we would just say that the staff reports from engineering and planning and zoning be a condition.
28:44Commission members, anything else for the applicant?
28:48Hearing no other concerns, I'll entertain a motion to close this public hearing.
28:57Second, Bob, any questions?
28:59All in favor, please say aye.
29:05Again, Commission members, unless there's any objection, we can move this to item two under old business for discussion and possible action.
29:12Um, do I hear a motion to that effect?
29:15Chairman, I'll make a motion to move it to item two under old business.
29:23Second, any discussion?
29:24All in favor, please say aye.
29:28This matter will be item two under old business.
29:32Uh on the uh second item on our um continuation of public hearing agenda.
29:37As I mentioned earlier, um we received uh Ali received today a letter from Conan Wolf.
29:45Um Ree, Danbury Mill Plain Realty LLC, 85 Mill Plain Road, dear Allie.
29:51As per our recent telephone conversation, the applicant is requesting that there be no testimony this evening and is seeking a continuance and extension of time until your next meeting of April 1st, 2026.
30:04I thank you in advance for your anticipated consideration in this matter.
30:07Yours truly, Joshua Pedrera.
30:10Um Ali, this letter is technically our next meeting is March 18th.
30:17So it did attorney Pedrera misspeak.
30:19Allie, did he just push it two meetings ahead?
30:22He does want to continue it to the April 1st meeting.
30:26Um that'll give the project team time to um answer some of the staff's questions and submit revised plan.
30:36So hopefully um it's a bit more buttoned up before that April 1st meeting.
30:41Um I did talk to the attorney today.
30:45Um, and the traffic engineer and the environmental professional will also be present at the April 1st meeting.
30:53Um the environmental tech had a conflict on the 18th.
30:57So that's why the first is their um requested date.
31:04And how are we doing time-wise in terms of extensions and everything?
31:09Yeah, we have we have plenty of time with this one.
31:12Um so with that, it'll be a 14-day extension that he's just granted um via that email.
31:19And I think we have about 40 more days that we can use in the extension pool.
31:25Okay, Commissioner members.
31:27Um, I read the letter.
31:28Unless there's any further discussion, I'll entertain a motion to continue this until the our next meeting on April 1st.
31:36Chairman, motion to uh continue.
31:41Chairman Think that was Mr.
31:43Nazario on a second.
31:45All in favor, please say aye.
31:47I suppose we will revisit this application on April 1st, 2026.
31:54Thank you, everybody.
31:55Okay, we'll go right to the old business for discussion of possible action.
32:02Western Connecticut Council on Alcoholism.
32:04Application for revised special exception, revised site plan approval for interior innovations to existing dependency treatment center, section 5B2B11 in the CA80 zone.
32:1438 Old Ridge Berry Road C16024, special exception number 799.
32:21And we did close the public hearing this evening, which is March 4th, 2026.
32:32You go, I mean, sorry, Bob, you go first.
32:35Um it's a pretty simple uh application here.
32:39Um I don't have any issues with it.
32:41It's uh we approved it uh what was that a year and a half, two years ago, uh, which was a much uh larger project and a lot more disturbance in the exterior.
32:51This has minimal disturbance, if any on the exterior, they're still gonna do the landscaping.
32:57Um everything's on the interior.
32:59The the neighbors seem to be uh happy uh with with uh with their neighbors.
33:05So um I I don't think there's any reason uh that this shouldn't be approved.
33:09Uh I'm in favor of this.
33:13Anyone else want to weigh in?
33:15Yes, yes, um, I'm gonna agree with Bob on this.
33:18We've simplified this application.
33:20Um, you know, and uh it's it's much um uh uh simpler to understand and um and it's a lot less work than there would have been um you know to approve.
33:32So I uh also would like to uh make you know to to um weigh in on the side of approving this as well.
33:42Anything to add or any thoughts.
33:48Sydney, any would you like okay?
33:50Anything to add or any thoughts on the application?
33:53Okay, you're okay with what's been said so far?
33:58And I would just add that um I Mr.
34:00Rotello said earlier that you know MCCA has been a good asset to the community and certainly a good neighbor.
34:06Um, yeah, I as some of you know I do I live in Rivington, so I basically live across the street from this facility.
34:13Otello is absolutely right.
34:14Uh great asset to the community, good neighbor, causes no issues, traffic or otherwise.
34:19So I too am in favor of approval.
34:21So Ali, you've got your feedback, and you can draft your resolution.
34:28Moving ahead to item two under old business for discussion of possible action.
34:33We're back to our friends at BRT Sconset LLC, application for revised special exception, revised site plan approval to it for an existing previously approved cluster development, the ridgetop, sections 4A2B3 and 4A6 in the RA40 zone, 10 day meet drive, F09036, special exception number 589.
34:53And again, the public hearing was closed this evening.
35:00Anyone have any thoughts or uh guidance for Allie or the department on this particular application?
35:05Chairman, um again, this is another one we've um had some things to work on and they got worked on uh and uh the rest of it.
35:14I I think we're gonna go with conditioning on the approval.
35:18So um I'm uh in favor of you know moving this ahead as well.
35:22I think we've covered all the things that we need to one way or the other there.
35:26So I'm I'm good with it.
35:33Yeah, I'm uh I'm okay with this.
35:35Um I'm uh happy to see some single family homes uh being built rather than uh apartments.
35:44Um so that's a good thing, and and they're reasonably sized uh homes, uh not uh you know huge uh huge monsters.
35:52So I think uh, you know, it just gives the community uh some alternatives uh for housing, and uh you know it's tucked up uh up top of the hill there.
36:03Um so I uh I think it's a good it's a good project.
36:09I don't think we've seen any single family detached houses up in that area for a long period of time, and uh it's good to see that again, like you said, give people some alternatives.
36:19Any thoughts, Sydney?
36:23I'm good on this, thank you.
36:25So Allie, I think you've got your guidance there as well.
36:29Yeah, get your pen out and draft those resolutions now.
36:32And now to do all the work, so that's that.
36:36Okay, that's it for old business for discussion and possible action.
36:39We have no referrals this evening, nothing under new business, nothing under correspondence, and nothing under other matters for discussion and possible action.
36:47So um, we got off easy tonight with the referrals, luckily.
36:53Anything else, commission members?
36:54Anything else for the good of the order?
36:57And hearing nothing else, I'll entertain a motion to adjourn.
37:01Chairman, I'll make a motion to adjourn.
37:07All in favor, please say aye.
37:11This meeting is adjourned.