I would need copy.

Recording in progress.

Hi, Lynn.

Hi, Casper.

Yeah, it's a cute shirt.

Okay, everything looks like it is now recording.

I'm recording on Zoom, so that uh in case this doesn't work.

And there are the new recording seems to work.

So Annie, I'm gonna turn it over.

Well, I'll start by saying since Mike reads I from the commission, Annie is our new chair.

Yay!

Annie.

And Krista will be our new west chair.

Yes!

Okay, so Annie, I'll turn it over to you.

Hey, great.

Welcome everyone to work conservation commission.

It's Wednesday, August 20th, 2025.

And it is 6.06 p.m.

Let's start off with the roll call.

I guess I'll start and then pass it off to the table and whoever wants to go can go.

Annie Vaughn.

Karina Pays.

Krista Hutchison.

Leon Orville.

Nancy Nichols.

Wendy At Sett.

Dean and Williams.

Jennifer Strumpstein.

Jason.

Perfect.

All right.

Let's move to the second one.

Does anyone have any changes in the meeting minutes for last month?

No.

No.

Perfect.

Hey, uh, can I get a motion to approve those minutes?

I motion to approve the minutes from our last meeting.

Second.

All right.

Fantastic.

Minutes are approved.

We have to take a vote.

Oh, we have to take a vote.

Yeah, I'll get all get the hang of this.

You're doing you're doing so good so far.

Thanks.

Alright.

And uh vote on that.

Is that everyone agree?

Approved.

Now the minutes are approved.

Cool.

Alright.

Okay, let's roll into those agenda items and start off with the reconnaissance level survey.

Okay.

Um give me one second to get uh the Kirk's presentation.

Um, but we've got Kirk Hubbaker here.

Um he's the consultant that has been working on our reconnaissance level survey for our tier one survey.

Um I I did email you guys, I think last week that final document that he sent in.

Um I I've been reviewing it.

I hope you guys have kind of been uh reviewing it as well.

Um I think it turned out really good.

Um there is a clicker, yeah, right there.

Okay, so I can start the slide and then you can click and let me do this just so okay.

Go through it.

Hi, uh good evening.

Good to see you again.

Um thanks for uh having me to the agenda uh to report on the final draft of the survey.

Um as Jennifer said, you have the final report at this point, and so I'm gonna run through some of the final numbers and recommendations uh during this uh presentation.

So to review uh our uh goal was to conduct the two reconnaissance level surveys in these two areas, um, and they were drawn as a radius around tracks stations.

Um so that has been completed, and so these are the uh various products that are associated with the reconnaissance level survey.

Sorry, this is a little small to see.

Um but um all of them at this point are 100%.

So many of them are in the final report, you know, such as the maps and the survey data.

Things that you don't necessarily see are like shape files for our GIS, but that's what we use to create the maps, but they're really helpful for the SHIPO and for the city to incorporate into their GIS layers to utilize in different ways later.

And then we do things like scan the field worksheets.

So if we ever have to go back and verify data that's in the spreadsheet, we can go back and say, oh, what did we see in the field?

This is what we wrote down.

So we have a we turn in the scan of the field worksheets as well.

So just wanted you to see all of these things at their completion here.

Any questions about that?

Okay.

Alright, um, and so here with you, this is a Kimball's Lane survey area with the radius being drawn in blue, and then the selected parcels in kind of the pinkish here.

Alright, so this is where we ended up on the final numbers.

If you might remember last time, there were some in these tables that were labeled as other or unknown, and so all of those are now completely gone.

So those have been incorporated.

We know all of what they are at this point.

And so these tables have all been updated here and in the final report.

And so these are pretty, I mean, nothing really changed enormously in terms of the data from what you saw last time from the draft report.

So it's still pretty consistent in most areas.

So primary construction materials is one of those areas that it's still consistent with brick being uh more than half of the uh areas construction materials of the primary structure.

I got I got it.

Uh uses still very strong in the single family residential that has not changed with a couple of other categories of use in uh the Kimballs Lane area.

Um height has not changed, uh low density and single family residential, they usually go together, and uh so no surprise at 85% here are one story.

What was the zero lot?

Um that is usually a site, like a park, and unfortunately, the SHIPO data system doesn't allow you to enter anything less than one, and so parks even appear as one in the official data, but here I can show you there's a zero, um so yes, it's a site or an object, uh like a marker, so we can report those as less than one.

Uh this is still consistent in terms of architectural style with the uh World War II era, uh, which generally goes from about 1940 to 1960 with a few different styles within that era.

Um, 47% were seen as that um style category.

Construction date changed uh a little bit in the first go-round.

We have not set the historic periods yet from the historic context, and so they were generally just 25-year increments that we had grouped the buildings into, but once we were confident in that historic context and the contextual periods that we set, then we're able to tie the dates of the buildings to those historic periods and more accurately reflect in what periods they were built, and so um so when you when you go through and you read about Kimball's Lane or or just Draper in general because it's one context, and what was happening here in the community between 61 and 77, that was the greatest growth period here in Draper, uh at least in the Kimball's Lane area.

So that's why I'm I'm saying it more accurate accurately reflects the historic periods that you see in the city, and this goes up to 77 because that is the date that we survey to right now, so it's 50 years before today, minus two years.

So because we want this to have a little bit of shelf life, and so we extend that just a couple of years, and so that last historic period where we would call something historic goes up to 77.

Anything after that, we would be we would consider it being built out of period.

So it's beyond the historic periods of Draper State.

The evaluation is still the same as well, with uh 43% of what we survey being eligible.

Um if you remove the X, which is are the demolished properties, so those are ones that have that that were in this survey area previously, not necessarily ones that you assigned us to look at, but when while we were here, we just looked and we said, Oh, is that still there?

Nope.

So let's change that in the data so we can see that 25 properties have been demolished since the last time it was surveyed.

So if we remove that, then that 43% goes way up in terms of the eligibility evaluation within the Kimballs Lane area.

Okay, these are the recommendations.

Um I won't belabor these a lot, they're all in the report.

Um the one in the National Register area.

Uh, if we were to look at anywhere, that would be a possibility of further designation possibilities.

We look at 119th South.

Um there's a pretty good nexus of properties that are eligible there.

It's about 50-50 of contributing, non-contributing, which is fine.

Um there's a variety of architectural styles, and then the association with the Savage family who settled that area, farmed it.

Many of them still live there as well.

Um is pretty unique, you know, that that enclave started and it continues today.

In terms of intensive level survey, um, we pointed out this pioneer era house.

Um it's had an addition made to it.

Um Corey Jensen and I had a little bit of a debate.

Corey's the architectural historian for the state, and so we had a little bit of a debate about that that addition because I think it's still eligible.

He's like, eh, kind of squishy, but he left it as eligible in the in the survey, and I think it actually has more potential for documentation and possible listing down the road.

Um because there's not not a lot of houses that look like that anymore, even with the addition, which you can't see from the corner, which is what I really like about it too.

Is when you stand on that corner, you don't see any of that.

Um it looks like a pioneer era house until you go go up this go up eighth east, and then you can see to the side.

There are six other properties that are listed for possible further research that could include intensive level survey or just research by the commission to learn a little bit more about you know the families that live there.

Um, how did this style you know get into this get to this location because we have contemporary and contemporary building that really stands out, and you know, the family might have a story about how they picked that, you know, and how that building got built.

So some things there that the commission can work on, or could be intensive level surveys, and then in terms of education, um there are some possibilities of doing some thematically thematically centered tours.

So whether you're talking about agriculture or different styles of buildings or eras, um Kimball's Lane has a big variety of things, and it's really figuring out the best way to tell the story of that area using so many things that are different rather than things that are the same, right?

Or grouped together geographically, you know.

So when they're not as tight like that, usually thematically is how you have to pull them together to tell those stories.

Okay, I'm gonna move over to town center survey in the survey area.

Um again, brick is the highest highest number here in terms of what was surveyed with 55% of the primary buildings being a brick construction and 35% being veneers.

I'll just remind you veneers includes stucco, aluminum siding, vinyl siding.

That's what we typically see.

Original use.

And this definitely proved out in what we see here in the table.

Where there's still a strong single family presence in the area.

You do have a big increase in commercial versus a place like Kimball's Lane, at least from what you selected.

But I think it's pretty representative what you selected with what's actually here.

So if you actually surveyed every building in town center, I bet you're going to get close to percentages like this as well.

So I think you did a nice job of representatively picking properties from the area.

Height, a little bit more diversity here.

Low density with one and one and a half stories.

It starts to tick up a little bit with that commercial presence.

And then, of course, the five-story one is the IFA plant, which is much taller than anything else around it.

Architectural style, we do have a little bit more diversity here than we do in Kimball's Lane as well, representing different eras.

The top one is early 20th century.

Is that already?

Yes.

Yes, early 20th century.

Sorry about that.

And I think that's to me that would be consistent with what I feel like we saw in the field.

And one of the biggest largest contributors in terms of style that falls into early 20th century are bungalows.

And so you have a nice representation of fairly simple bungalows, but also some nice craftsmen or arts and crafts style residences as well.

So I think that's what ticked that number up just a little bit as well.

Late 20th century, we see more of like the split levels, even early manufactured homes or mobile homes, things like that.

Construction date, again, now they the numbers are tied to the historic periods of Draper City.

So we get a little bit of a different curve here.

In the town center, we can see that that middle bar 1918 to 1950, much higher than in the last graph in Kimball's lane.

So to me, that would say that there was definitely more focus on developing right around the center of the city.

You know, the next sort of ring out from the town center at this point.

And even you know, up to 1977, a lot was still being built right around the town center as that first ring of subdivisions was being developed, like out in the Kimballs Lane area.

The evaluation here, very strong in terms of eligible buildings, ranked B, C being not eligible or non-contributing because they've been changed too much.

So C are buildings that are 50 years old that have been altered, D being buildings that are out of period or built after 197.

So only five that you selected or evaluated to be after that period of time.

Okay, and then recommendations for town center, structured much the same as Kimball's Lane.

So we have a national register recommendation.

There's a well, this should be 64.

Darn it.

Yeah, in terms of uh and I mean I can just go back to this table.

So we have over 60% eligible buildings here in the town center of just what you selected.

Um it really shows that there's a strength in the numbers to look at a potential national register district that would be around the town center.

Um it's usually not just an even square or rectangle when you draw that you know boundary for a historic district, it kind of gerrymanders a little bit, keeps some of the uh buildings that are not eligible out.

But there's again a great variety of architectural styles, and I think a really strong association with settlement education commerce of Draper City.

So I think there's some strong potential there.

Um another option would be to do some intensive level surveys.

Again, this could be research that the commission does if you're interested in doing that, or getting official intensive level surveys done.

Um, and these are just five that I felt were some of the strongest candidates uh in terms of architecture, architectural integrity that they still hold uh in terms of their design, um, and then just interest um and I think association with uh possible significance of uh what happened there so social history, and then education.

Um it's always fun for me to do these projects because I get to dive into what you've already done, and so you guys have a great website, there's a lot of resources on there, um and you know, I can tell that there's you know print material that maybe people can pick up, but there's also electronic or digital information, and so really this is just about adding some of this new information because that was one of our charges is bring in the stuff after 1945 because you want to know about that.

Well, I think you're gonna have more information now, and you could add those to some of these tours or the the story map that the city has or even just create a post-World War II tour of things that are newer.

Um, you know, there's a lot of people who say, Oh, I don't even want to know about that stuff because it's too new.

Um you know, they they may be historic purists.

Um but you know, in my experience, there's a lot of young people who look for that who really love that too, and I think people will gravitate to that just naturally to understand a new dimension of Draper's history if you put that together.

Okay, that's my quick presentation for today, so thank you.

Uh and I'm happy to take questions as well from Annie or anybody else.

Great job.

I have a question.

Do we have this report?

Because I know I I want to look at some of those addresses on the ones that were.

Yeah, I did email that out, I think last week.

I can re-email it out.

Okay, yeah, we do have the final report.

Okay, yeah, yeah.

I have a question about I really like your idea about building more education around kind of that post-World War II time.

Yeah, um World War II is a thing out there in the history world anyway, so there's opportunity.

Do you know of other cities who have done a good job that we could look at their materials that kind of hyping that mid-century modern?

Sure, yeah.

Um, I can't say there's a lot in Utah really that have done that.

Um, Denver has done awesome.

Okay.

Um, Salt Lake City has a wealth of resources, but um they haven't done a lot formally with with the mid-century and post-war.

Um, you know, they've done a little bit like when they amend national register nominations for historic districts, they'll bring in buildings that have become historic from the 60s.

Um so they are taking steps to recognize those, but they're not public education.

I have another question, it could be for both Jen and you.

Um, you recommend an intensive level surveys.

Is that something you do more than once?

Because I think some of those are on our list of having been done.

Do you do intensive level more than one time?

No, just once.

Okay.

Yeah, and what we can you know, now that we have this information, we'll be able to look at the homes, evaluate if there is a survey done, great.

If there isn't, we may want to look at funding that there may be properties that uh Kirk's team has uh pointed out that we may want to see if we can't get on the national register, yeah, things like that.

So uh with you know what one reason why we chose these two areas is those stationary plans that we have to do for the state.

So taking a look and seeing what properties we may want to start with intensive level survey, um, especially ones that may you know be seen redevelopment, and that house may or that structure may not be able to be saved, like the Henry Day House, since it's like right in the middle of all this stuff, potentially potentially.

And I know the uh town center stationary plan does call for preservation of historic structures quite a bit.

The Kimball's uh line one doesn't put as much emphasis on it, but it is a smaller focus.

Um, but there are still some structures that may be impacted, and that's not even an area that we've gone to look at before Gimbal, yeah.

And that I mean that's that's a tough balance.

Yeah, because you know, you you want to see the right redevelopment around station like that.

Um but you don't want to lose the character of the area, too.

And so there's a real balance there, and I think it's really smart to get ahead of it by doing some of this because it starts to point out well, what are things that we might want to avoid or highlight in different ways that do preserve character while we're redeveloping, um so you know you don't so you don't use that, yeah.

One of the things that's horrifying to me, and also the reason why we need to document a lot of this is to say the percentages are brick.

If we're hit by a major earthquake, those buildings were built during a period when you there's just brick, there's there's no other uh support, and that all go down, yeah.

Any other comments or questions?

Okay, okay, great.

Thank you, thank you.

Um bid okay next.

So I don't know if you want to hang out or not.

It's up to you.

Well, it's it's a public meeting, but yes, it is.

I don't know if you want to be in the room, but yeah.

Thank you.

Very good.

Excellent Laura.

Thanks, sir.

Thanks.

We can barely hear you in California.

I was gonna say I think you turned it down because it was too loud at first.

Well, I've done it.

But I didn't turn it down and take it down especially down.

Yeah, yes, yeah.

Oh, cool.

Okay.

Yeah, not sure what happened there.

Okay, um, so we're still on the same item.

That's my yes.

Um, but sorry, you were doing that.

Do you have something to add?

Oh, I told Mindy, I looked it up, and there are a bunch of California, so we should have field trip.

Oh, you guys figure that one out.

Sounds good to me.

Let's do it.

Okay, um so the next item on the agenda is that tier two um RLS.

Um, what we'll get to my document.

Um so we well, we have one we have one bid on our tier two RLS, and if you recall this is for essentially the rest of the city from the north boundary to highland um minus the stationary plan areas that we just did.

Um again, it's a selective survey, so we looked at our um GIS material to get uh build dates for homes, and uh so that we have a set number on what those homes were, um, what those structures were to just say homes because there are all kinds of uh uses um for the remaker of the city besides the stationary plans.

Um I believe I emailed this out too to you guys as well.

Um, so schedule on this bid um would be to start this fall um with build work beginning in the spring.

Um first review July and then August, September finalizing that document.

So it kind of kind of work kind of the same time frame as the tier one that we've been working on.

Um cost would be just under $10,000.

Um with the budget, we did get an additional five thousand dollars from the city in order to pay for the tier two RLS.

So we do have some additional money to put towards a reconnaissance level uh survey tier two.

Um that additional money will help pay for it.

Um we had budgeted and we had them down.

Um since this is the only bid that we have, um we can either you know it accept this bid and I'll I'll work with um Amy our purchasing agent on the contract and and getting that ball rolling.

If you guys would like us to look for additional bits, we can do that as well.

I feel like it makes sense to keep working with the same people.

Okay, yeah.

Yeah, as long as legally we don't have to have it out any longer or talk to anybody else, it seems good to stay with the same.

I have been told work okay, yeah.

That's my only concern.

So you need somebody to say I vote to accept this bid and move forward.

Motion and motion to accept this bid and move forward.

I second it.

Everybody in favor?

I all in favor?

I'm all right, great.

Sorry, please accept this bid.

I I do have a question.

Um because it is just a little bit to the schedule.

So because it does fall under the two different years, would the final payments come out of next year's budget then?

So it was split it.

Or would it all come out of this current budget that we have now?

How would that uh payment break up like so?

We are um July 1st to June 30th uh budget.

So really July any work in July, August, September that we get uh billed would be the next following year.

So it might not be a straight 50-50 split dependent upon the amount of work, yeah.

Right.

Well, and uh you know, all the field work will be before July.

Um so that's gonna be the most intensive time-wise is the field work, so but yeah, so we'll be getting the final bills in the next budget cycle.

Okay, perfect.

Are we able to roll unused to the next fiscal year?

No, we are not okay.

Okay.

Sounds sounds good to me.

I'm excited to continue to finish off this project, and the deliverables that we got for this last survey, I thought were fantastic.

So it'll be great to keep consistent and get good results and good information that we can then take for educational purposes and documentation purposes.

So I'm I'm excited for this product.

Okay, thank you.

We're gonna afford it working.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thanks, Kirk!

All right, so I think all right, perfect.

Let's let's keep on rolling here and move on to the next agenda item.

Uh Andy, do you want to take a lead on that one?

Sure, and we actually have a second view, like we have our view, but Lynn came through with the tour, so she can give us her opinion on how we all did.

I it at one point I was at the very north end of Pioneer and Relations Street, and I looked up the street or down the street, and there were looked like almost hundreds of people in the street walking around.

It was so exciting.

I think you guys need that too.

It was there's just so many people on that street, like traffic couldn't get through.

Yes, it was it was great, and actually Lynn's cousin it was he was one of the houses was his grandfather's house.

So we got to hear firsthand stories of him uh growing up there and with his grandfather and and all so it was just really really fun.

Um all ages and most of the people actually were have never been to to prior years.

So this is our biggest turnout of the three.

There were uh some people that came from past tours too, and I was like, Oh, I recognize you from the last one.

So that's I had similar to you that I had someone come in on mine whose family had been born in the house I was talking about.

Just make married in the front room, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well they re capture those stores while they're written down.

Well, there was that's what I city was around taking pictures, and at one point I somebody was doing video, and I don't know if it was city or if it was just people in the city or uh yeah, it was just pictures.

Um of our PR people uh took the took some pictures, and I love that Lorraine showed it.

That's Lynn's cousin right there in the hat that was telling us about his grandmother's house.

Okay, um yeah, and I don't think she went to every house honesty.

Um the lady taking the pictures, yeah.

Oh, I see.

Yeah.

Um but we got some some good photos of the crowd and um people walking on the house.

Yeah, yeah.

I should have been taking pictures.

You enjoyed it.

So how do you feel it went as a um and uh you enjoyed it like Christ, yeah.

I did get to see it last year because I was more than you know, but yeah, I think you probably had a lot more people this year.

This this is what um Lane brought out for my area.

He brought that old car out.

I didn't know anything about that, but unfortunately it started to rain, and so his wife pulled it back in.

Um, it was my first time going, and I really liked it.

Good.

Yeah, we enjoyed it a lot.

I feel like we all had a good chat learning the histories of the homes and kind of relaying the stories, how they were all related.

Yeah, it I felt it was really great.

It was fun to see more people this year.

Yeah, first yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

I think what do you think is responsible for the larger crowds this year?

Is it really just I saw the street sign, the big street signs that were stuck up that's yeah.

Uh it was better advertised with the city.

I think we were able to get the information to our PR team better um as far as location, homes, um, it being on you know, the Draper Journal when that got mailed to everybody, it was already there, that kind of thing.

Yeah, so that we did we have just that one sign on Pioneer?

Is that where the big sign was?

We had the big sign at the uh biologistics building, and then there were the small signs.

I put the three I put the three bigger signs right on relation street, the one in front of your house, the one at the corner where you were and then the one at the very north end of rotation.

I think next year we gotta add one more on Third East where they put up all those signs together over near the um skate park and crossroad and dark park.

Oh, it went up pretty early.

Okay, especially if they continue to do the farmer's market over there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That would high-topic area.

Um I kept getting repeatedly was we thought we could go into the house.

Yes.

Well, were you telling them about the video stuff?

No, because I would have had to know.

Um, I was telling them at the end, we have these on the website, the Draper website.

But not the ones we're talking about though, right?

Um, no, not yet.

But we tell I told him I said we're adding them a little out of time, so keep checking back.

Yeah, because we have uh did the last one get um did the um Jair Allen get added yet?

No.

Okay.

So I let them know about that.

If when we talk more about like a QR code and stuff, maybe we can get a QR code and pass it out.

There you go.

Yeah, and adding external or something, some wording to the make sure advertisements are historical, like something external verbiage next year, right?

People are like trying to get into these houses.

Yeah, I feel like a good compromise might be though it depends on what areas you do it for their years, but what about including the Swanson House and the Fitzgerald cabin in these tours and actually opening up those ones to the public?

Never mind.

Yeah, well, the Fitzgerald one could be interesting to add.

You guys are on top of it.

I'm doing the it's a little trickier to you know get a private residence opened up.

Um if that's something you guys are interested in.

Um if that's something you guys are interested in, I would recommend we reach out to uh preservation Utah because they do historic home tours every year where people are actually going in, so they have experience working with homeowners to to try to do those types of person who because uh they used to do it here though, too.

We used to do it.

Yeah, yeah, so I mean maybe they could tell us how they did it.

And maybe we don't need all of them, maybe we just need a feature home.

You know, like we have five houses, but this is the featured home and you can go inside.

We also learned our lesson that we need to tell people ahead of time, even though they're on the historic register because someone had come apart without uh being on the tour and them not knowing, and so we had a remove it last minute.

Um people were still walking by it.

But so yeah, we learned our Nancy and I learned our lesson that we will tell them before it's printed ahead of time.

Yeah, yeah.

There you go.

Yeah, yeah.

So before we finalize the tour, we need to make sure the homeowners are okay.

The majority were very happy to be part of this.

So it'll be fun to next, you know, later this year.

We didn't figure out what area to do the section.

So this reconnaissance level thing will be a great addition to idea.

Yeah, because I don't know anything about that at all.

It's open with Kimballs, it'll be more driving.

It's more walkable.

But yeah, and I wanna look more into that because he's saying it's on 119th, and I don't know if some of those homes are what will be redeveloped with the stationary plan or not.

Yeah.

So I kind of want to dive into that a little bit just to see what lots, what properties it actually is.

Right.

I mean, even some of these the other homes he listed on this t uh were the 50s um over near seventh and pioneer ish, where we what's the Christmas one where we just did?

The Christmas.

Stewart home.

Yeah.

So there's the stewart home, there's a house across the street from it.

There's that little section is a great little area too, right?

Consider it for next year, right?

Yeah.

I don't know if this is something else too, but somebody told me the house was getting torn down that I wasn't aware of.

The one that's like the back, is it the Beck home?

But I thought they were building behind it though.

Um because we looked at a map and saw that they were talking about building something behind the home.

Do you know what one I'm talking about?

Um, it it's on right across from the Sorenson home.

Like they have um is it home?

Yeah, that's the blue one, right?

Yeah, it's right.

They're um subdividing, so they're creating a black lot behind them.

That's what I thought.

Yeah, so they'll have so I think there's some like garages, some sheds that they'll tear down and not the house.

Not the house.

Okay.

Somebody's someone was saying this house.

The I guess it's got different things.

The big historic one.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

So yeah, so they're creating a lot in the back that they'll sell somebody who you know will build a house on.

So yeah, there's some sheds and stuff they need to tear down for that.

Interesting.

But the house is the house will be fine.

I was gonna say also I felt like it could have been like a half hour longer.

Just very weather cools down where people wanted to be there more in the evenings.

Maybe we extended it next year.

Like six to eight instead of five to seven.

Yeah.

Seems like we said the same thing last year.

But people were longer.

Yeah.

All right.

I think we should probably wrap that one up and get rolling.

We do have only about 12 minutes left.

Yeah, so we do have a little bit more time after seven.

Um but not.

Yeah.

Perfect.

But good job, everyone.

I think the event went really well.

All the feedback I heard was so positive, and the histories were great.

My mom came.

Um, my mom and my dad and my sister were there, so I got a lot of feedback from them.

They said all of you did really great with all your stories.

They like yours better than mine, so you know it's more than you did.

I'm like, okay.

Uh moving on to C or 3C for the 2526 budget.

Yeah, so I just wanted to show you what I've kind of penciled in for the budget.

Um we do have that last invoice from Kirk for the tier one, which is 1500.

Um, I did just put um 10,000 for the tier two, as you know, Annie pointed out in that timeline, the last few bills will come for the next year, so we'll be fully 10,000 that comes out of this this budget.

Um kind of penciled in getting the Isaac Stewart home on the National Register and plaque.

I know um they've indicated they're interested in that.

Um, so kind of starting to work on getting that home on the National Register.

Um getting the plaque for NS Auto Um ordered last budget year.

We did get them on the national register, but we haven't gotten that plaque yet.

Um also budgeted doing uh one video tour.

Um I have that uh the Rus uh but sterile home listed.

Now that was Melissa and Andy's house, so whether the new owners are interested, I don't know.

So it may be in a different property that we look at, or it may be we use those funds to put another home on the register, do uh intensive level survey, um, and then just kind of figure if if we need more QR codes, that kind of thing.

Um so that so all of this does take us a little over budget.

Um, but again, that 10,000 most of it should come out of this year's budget with some of it next year.

So I think we'll be will be sufficient budget-wise there.

Um yeah.

Do we I don't know how detailed this is required to be, but do we need to go back and look at the proposal and see when the majority of the work will be done to get an accurate idea of how much it actually will cost in this fiscal year?

So if you go if you scroll down, so like if you talked about the majority of the field work.

Let me zoom that in for you guys.

Um so we know we're not gonna have to be through the report in this fiscal year.

Yeah, so we can take that out at a minimum, so it would be yeah, just minus 1500 from the night 98 of the travel for me and would come through.

Yeah, so it's really gonna be kind of that 1500.

Yeah, 8,400 ish.

Yeah, so if we updated the cost, then we're actually we'll we're we are within budget, we have a tiny bit more in case we need to buy more signs for draperies.

Um we shouldn't have to buy more, and I do have one in my office.

You do?

Yeah, I have not gotten in touch with Wilkinson without getting those, so um and it still shows like the historic park, like it's one of the other things.

Yeah, but I do have one at my office, and then the ones Andy ordered for this year, dump list a location on them and then they can do these and over.

Okay, yeah.

Well, then maybe we have a tiny bit of money in case something comes up.

Yeah, a plaque or something.

Okay.

I'm in need of more of the split containers.

The containers.

Okay.

Okay.

Um I don't know what they cost, I never did see, but I don't think they were that much.

I think it spent like 30 bucks on them or you know, some something like that.

They weren't a lot.

I may do more.

But can I get a motion to buy Dave some more containers?

And then we're gonna buy more containers.

All in favor.

Okay.

Okay.

Thank you.

I love it.

Okay.

Yeah, I I can order you more.

We need eight.

You said they stay.

Okay.

Um, yeah, I can order more.

They're they weren't that expensive.

So if uh Kirk suggested doing like a new brochure, adding in a World War II section to everything.

When it comes to those walking tour pamphlets, is that come out of our budget or is that a city thing?

That's gonna come out of your budget.

Okay.

I would recommend um starting digitally.

Yeah, I mean, we have the walking tour online.

Right.

So if we're working on, you know, choosing which properties are gonna be on the tour, doing the write-ups, um, getting the pictures, they can be put online, um, and then which we're trying to drive people there anyway because the QR codes that we're sticking to postures, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

recommend um starting digitally yeah I mean we have the walking tour online so if we're working on you know choosing which properties are gonna be on the tour doing the write ups um getting the pictures they can be put online um and then which we're trying to drive people there anyway because the QR codes that we're sticking in the pictures yes yeah and then uh with the next year budget for actually printing a furniture because we're not gonna print it before everything's done anyway and that's gonna take us time to do that perfect do we have to approve the budget or just the FYI no it it's more of an FYI because I kind of have you guys approve things as were going uh okay using it so as we're you know when we decide that we do want to move forward with the tensile oil survey or nomination there'll be a vote to do that and we'll have maybe an actual bed to vote on our company.

Okay.

Alright hey uh next agenda item three national register nominations um this is what Mike was really taking the reins on um correct right then yeah um I do have um well so chapel at the wayside that's uh a quick one just is an FYI so this is the uh chapel at the prison property um uh they've been working on getting it on the national register uh ship but we'll be looking at on September eighteenth to to decide whether to let it be on the national register so I'm just letting you guys uh know that that listing is proceeding um I believe it's the point that is actually instigated that uh nomination for the state um so the next item we do have a a guest yeah um for the property at 1696 right near road um I did kind of pull it up here in Google oh yeah to help kind of orient everybody um I'm just across the street from that big field the catch basin field yeah so that's gonna be 17th there and then um let's see if what at all we can get a good should sometimes you can't get good views that's it you can see it a little bit better in the small picture up in the left corner of the screen there we go in 1929 um so I know that you guys are um running short on time um but I did just kind of put want to put in a plug for my house um yeah my name is Dina Williams and I live at 1696 East Pioneer Road by myself um recently I was uh putting together my will and I was thinking about I'm not gonna be the caretaker of this home forever this is gonna go to somebody else and I started to panic thinking about people coming in and tearing out all the historic features and it I so I happen to be driving by and I saw the Draper Historical Society map and I went down the road and I went in and talked to Lynn and she pulled the house up in her big books and we looked at it.

If you don't mind I'm gonna just read it really quick.

This lovely old home was built in 1929 for Ihomer and Elizabeth Call Smith by President Stainer Richards.

It was an architectural prize winner and was dubbed the dream house by Sister Smith.

The home consisted of a living room standing room dining room kitchen bedroom and bath on the main floor upstairs two bedrooms and another two bedrooms downstairs.

The garage was on the west the home stood on the east side of the creek surrounded by carefully tended flower gardens, fruit trees a grape barber, raspberry strawberries and dewberry patches the interior included cove ceilings, hardwood floors, hardwood door casings, tile fireplace and mantle all of which I'm happy to say are still original and existing.

Well yeah um the the only thing that's been replaced is I had a small flood uh after I've been in the home a year and that the toilet on the upper floor came down on the main floor and I did have to replace the wood floors in the two bedrooms there.

Um let's see the sunroom was an extra special delight with windows all around that overlooked the raised flower beds and lawn to the east.

Homer and Beth and family were transferred to Fair Fair Oaks, California in 1934, and after they left the home was robbed of all of its fixtures, lighting, and plumbing.

Um I do still have two of the original fixtures.

The one in the what they call the sunroom is my library, and then one in a one closet, but otherwise they're all new.

Um at a great loss to the Smiths.

Jay and Mary Alan Steadman bought the home in July of 37, and it is still owned by the family today.

Um well, back in 1993, uh the Andersons, uh, Chris and Larry Anderson bought the house from the Stedmans and remained there until 1998.

Um Deeds family purchased it and lived there a few uh years, and then I moved in in 2001.

Um it's interesting.

I saw the house when I was on the parade of tours with my mom, and we were just driving around, you know, and going seeing all the homes in the valley, and we happened to be driving past this house, and there was a little tiny for sale sign in the window, and I just yelled, stop the car.

And I just went in, fell in love with it, knew I had to have it, knew it was my house, and in less than two months I moved in.

I've been there ever since.

Um the Andersons did a really good job of putting together a scrapbook that included the work pictures of the work that they did, as well as scraps of the original wallpaper that they won't.

That's amazing.

Yeah, um, and that's really cool to read some of the things that they did and and some of the before and after pictures that they have.

Um again, there's original parquet flooring, co ceilings, Moroccan arches.

Oh, and the fireplace tile, there's a surround with a couple of plaque tiles, and then the um mantle.

No, what's the base caller?

Hearth, yeah.

Um, we believe was built built by my great-grandfather.

Oh my brother lives in an English tutor and sugar house, and he my great-grandfather put the tile in in that home, and this tile is identical, so we're assuming it's um it has all the original tile in the main bathroom, which are the colors of the time, I guess.

It's this orchid pink and uh apple green tile.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, and I've got some really neat pictures of it.

And I recently made um a replication of one of the lily pads in the tile in stained glass.

I haven't quite figured out how I'm gonna put it in the room, but that was fun.

Um, there's some things that do need repair.

The main floor bath tile, um, it's the little squares, and there's it looks like it needs to be sanded out and regrounded in a couple of places.

The front door needs some of the glass secured into the casings, they're kind of wobbly, and some of those casings are missing.

It's all the original windows as well, except for the um primary bedroom upstairs, which faces pioneer, and it just wasn't very soundproof, and I had those rentals put in.

But all the other ones are the ones with the weights and everything.

Um I really would like to see if I can get some sort of preservation or historic designation because I want the house to stay with somebody that really loves it as much.

I'm gonna start crying as much as I am.

Um and the thought of others tearing things out just breaks my heart.

I want to watch a lot of restoration shows, and I see people tearing things out and putting new things in, but yet there's other sh shows that show people putting the originality back into homes.

Um with all the new homes going up now and uh everything popping up that's all new and and modern.

I think that to keep a little historic jewel would be important.

Sorry.

Now you know why we do what we do.

Yeah, yeah.

So you're interested in grass.

Is that like talking to us about maybe getting some grants for work or the rest or um the register?

Yeah, somebody told me that there might be rents available.

I wasn't aware of that when I started this.

I mainly just wanted I don't know if it's got a historic designation.

Does that limit anybody from ripping tile out and doing things or what?

I don't know.

It doesn't.

So the so national being being on the National Register, um frankly, it doesn't prohibit anybody from doing anything.

Um frankly it doesn't prohibit anybody from doing anything if they affect the integrity of the home, it may for get it removed from the register, but it doesn't prohibit somebody from doing something they want to do at their property.

Now what it does is if you're on the national register, it would open the door for grants and tax credits and different things for you if you're doing restoration rehab work.

Um also when you go to sell in the future if you do sell, you're selling national register property, so you're probably getting somebody who also wants to keep the property.

Yeah.

Is it do you get like a little plaque that you mount in the house or something?

Yeah, so there'll be a plaque that either goes on the house or on a little pedestal up in the front.

Yeah.

Typically we're putting them by the road.

I have a question too in regards to that.

Are people allowed to tear those out?

They are.

Yeah, so yeah, you can see.

If you have a national register home, you could tear it down.

There's nothing.

No, I'm not the flower.

Oh, the plaque.

Yeah, take it off and like put it somewhere across.

I know two homes that have done that.

Wow.

I mean, technically I don't know why not.

Um I mean, ideally they'd be keeping them visible.

Yeah.

You know, but the one I know that tore it out is because they didn't want their house to be visible.

Because they kept having people coming up and wanted to go in their house and they didn't want them to.

Well, and I know some homes, you know, have it like on the side of the house on in the porch, so when you walk up to the front door, it's kind of there.

So you can see it.

And that's I think that's probably a good idea for people who maybe don't want it on the street, so people can't really see it unless they're already going to their home.

Yeah, um, that kind of thing, but then it's still very much there.

I didn't know.

Yeah, yeah, you know.

I did have someone stop by several years ago that said she grew up in the home.

Oh brought her through and let her see everything, and she just got really emotional and said, This was my bedroom, this is where mom and dad slept, you know, and she was just so happy to see that it was all still there.

Yeah, yeah, that's a good idea.

Okay.

Sounds like a beautiful property.

Yeah, yeah.

I I'd love to come see it myself.

Yeah, open your doors.

We're the nosy people that say, Can you give us a it used to own the circle behind it, but when the Andersons bought it, they subdivided and built two other homes in in the circle behind it.

Um, and uh the backyard, only half of it was landscaped, and so when I moved in, I put in waterfalls and a pond and um flagstone patio and stuff like that.

So the backyard is all right.

Would you ever be interested in us doing a video tour of your home?

Sure.

Okay.

Just give me enough warning so I can do some we don't have okay.

Um great.

Thank you so much.

Oh, that's gonna function.

Okay, um perfect.

So the next thing under that agenda item is the NS Auto Plack language.

Um I sent that out.

Oh gosh, I don't even know.

It's probably been a month or so now.

Um and it looked like everything was everyone kind of agreed that it was looking good.

I know Jenny some final updates just adding C after Draker and Candy.

Um what's our next step on that one, Jen?

Are we about ready to go?

Um I I think I'd like to see uh uh vote to accept that final language that we all you know review, um, and then we can place an order.

Perfect.

All right, can I get a motion to approve the pack language for the NS Auto marker and to then purchase it?

Can we tie that into one motion?

Uh yeah.

Perfect.

And then to get the pot purchase.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh second motion.

Perfect.

All in favor?

Uh fantastic.

Okay.

Sorry.

What is it?

Andy or Krista.

Who who's saying?

I think I'm like, I heard multiple voices.

Who was sorry?

I can only see a green square when you guys talk.

So like I don't know who's going to talk to you right now.

Alright, perfect.

And then the Joseph F.

Keyword House.

Who was asking for this one?

I don't know.

How did this one come up?

This is one of the ones that one.

One.

Was this the one that you did on the four?

Yeah, I did that one on the tour.

I was just curious.

I think I had it in my notes to put on.

Um if there's nothing to you know.

I honestly never even knew that house was there until Nancy told me about it because all the trees in front of them.

Yeah, yeah.

This one right here, right?

Yeah.

Uh oh, the one next to it was one of the things.

Oh, it's yeah, next one.

Is that next, yeah, right now on this?

Slowly.

Okay.

Um the cool thing is the original fence it has around it.

Well, we like went like way.

Um I don't even know where we're on.

If you click the big picture, it'll take you to it.

I know.

If you could just click the picture right above the address, that's your street view.

Okay.

Um yeah, I mean you can't see it.

Yeah.

Um I'm just curious how it got on the list.

I thought somebody asked me to put it on the list.

But if there's nothing to nobody has anything to talk about, then we'll skip it.

Okay.

Sounds good.

No, they're we're running out of time anyway.

So we're we're pretty tight on time.

Yeah.

Um, let's move on.

Okay, really.

Jason's still on.

Um Jason, are you still on?

I know he said he was gonna have to leave in a minute.

Maybe Alpha.

Next.

We'll skip that for next week.

Yeah, we'll we'll skip.

Um, yeah, I I think Jason, I think we've lost them, so let's go ahead and skip it.

Can you hear me?

Oh you can't, is that you?

You know, I can I can make an attempt here, but I'm I'm walking to dinner.

So I'm like past my day.

Um I do have some some uh things compare um some questions, but I think I'm gonna have to drop those into an email.

Yeah, I'm gonna I don't know how productive I'm gonna be with the traffic.

Yeah, why don't you go ahead and send an email out and then we'll put it on the next agenda.

Okay, yeah, there's nothing that needs to happen between now and uh next month specifically.

Except I will say um we're discussing it would be nice when we mount that block to see if we can uh end out of it.

Yeah, it'd be really nice to get some of the racers up there.

Um I'm not sure what the city would have been far with that, so window is willing to support you know that might be cool to know between now and next month.

Okay, I think okay.

All right, thanks, Jason.

So you know everything.

I gotta go out.

Cool.

Okay, hey, all right, moving on, walkie turn a show.

So I'm not having a new places, but I've uh I've spent a lot of time uh refurbishing places with the brochure and um everybody seems very receptive to them.

And one of the best places I found is the um public library, uh the Draper Public Library.

They just they have a wonderful display area when you first go in the library and then to your right, they they have all kinds of displays, and they go through them uh very fast.

Nice, it's good.

I just dropped off another hundred and uh and they're very receptive, they're very happy that they were so happy to see that I came with replacement, but and I'm gonna hit the schools now.

So I'm planning on placing a lot of them in the next short time.

Great, thank you so much, David.

All right, walk through video tour historic hosts.

Nancy?

Um Jason and I have not met yet, so I would say put it to next month.

Perfect.

Okay.

All right, uh ethnic and minority history research.

I don't have anything to report.

I don't have anything to report on now.

All right.

Hey, all right, Wendy, we'll pop over to you next.

Okay, thanks everybody who had a chance to read the draft that I sent out.

If this feels like the approach we want to take, which is like talking about the humanity of the people who lived here.

Um I would I would propose a couple of next steps.

First of all, please feel free to send me any suggestions that you have or concerns or um just corrections.

I would like to run it past perhaps the SHIPO office since I used a lot of their report and it's pretty old.

I just want to make sure that I'm using it appropriately.

And um probably division of Indian Affairs since we're referencing that monument that they were involved in.

So I can do those things, but I think the other next step might be to see if we can get photography from the city because you can take beautiful pictures out there of the site, and there are lots of lovely ones online, but I think we probably want our own, Jen, don't you think?

Uh yes, and uh we can we can have a talk of work-out.

Okay.

Um and then I think we just work with the website folks to get it put up.

They had originally wanted to do like a video and interview people, and to me that feels like a a lot, and I don't know who we would interview.

Um's out on the interwebs about the site right now is about come to the trail, look at our conservation area, look at the wildlife, look at the plant restoration we're doing, and this is kind of a just a different focus.

So we could talk about that later, but I would like to get the site, the page up sooner.

Okay.

That sound okay?

Yeah.

Um I will work with RPR team to go out and get some pictures of it if you'll get the reviews from the different entities.

Yep.

Um, and we'll go from there.

Sounds good, okay?

Yay.

One of the things I'd like to suggest is that we have something up this area though that refers back to that because people come up here and they don't even know it's not there.

I know.

So we need to have something up here that refers to the fact that uh Native Americans were here and early.

This was a major place for trading for the various groups, and that there is something else.

You know, it's interesting.

I thought about putting in the write-up, the center of Draper shifted when Draper was established over here, right?

Where you can see that that really was a central, really crucial location, and now it's kind of like on the other side of the tracks a little bit.

Like the value of that area is really changed.

Um I agree with you, David, and I have some ideas about where we how we might think about doing that.

Great.

Let's do this first.

We'll do more.

Okay.

Thank you.

Thank you for all your work on it.

Well, it's a good write-up.

You did a very good job.

Thank you.

Thank you so much, Wendy.

It was great to read and so approachable and digestible with all that information.

So thank you so much for that.

We're excited to finally get it up on the website.

Um, you know, if you need any help reaching out to people or tracking people down, or what I can help you out to get us to the final post.

Thanks, Annie.

Perfect, thank you.

Of course.

They're coming to the kitchen.

Three days.

People a weaver county festival.

Did you just want me to say about what it was?

Yeah, you had a while ago.

Yeah, they did they put it together really well, but it was not well attended.

I was very interested because I like those types of things.

I don't know that everyone was, but they had great big like poster things about the different people that were there, and they have like little things for kids to do of the crafts from the those pupils.

So I think I mean I think it was a nice thing.

I think it just wasn't very well attended, though.

Great.

Thanks.

I'll have to look out for that next year.

It's almost pretty fun.

I didn't even know what was happening until that was our first year or what of doing it.

Yeah.

It was very hot though.

That was one thing.

That's all we've got the issue.

All right.

Uh and then 3K, America 250.

That's me again.

So this may not be the only or the best body of of the city just to handle America 250 stuff, but I think it we can start there.

There was a big celebr, not huge.

Big ish event at the state capitol.

Marie Osmond was there.

It is being that the commission for Utah is being coordinated out of the Department of Cultural and Community Engagement.

So that is I am part of that department in my division.

And I'm working very closely with them on some and some local partners on a suite of educational materials that will be school centered.

But there are a lot of other things happening, and I think the low-hanging fruit for Draper and for other towns.

There's a great campaign called America's Pop Luck.

Which seems fun and easy, right?

But it is really all about bringing your community together and for a meal or some kind of a there's a nice video.

Some kind of a celebratory meal event.

And then the other one that seems super easy is walk 250, which is like walk 250 miles in the year, and there's a way to log.

There are many other things happening, but all of this it's it's not uh meant to just be the state orchestrating every single thing.

We really are empowering local organizations to take these ideas and make them relevant for their own communities.

So I mean, I've been um pushing hard to recognize the dimming is an escalante expedition as part of our educational materials, which also happened in 1776, so we can talk about you know all of the empires that are operating across the continent in that year doing really interesting things and bringing focus back to native people and how they're interacting with these different groups.

They play an important role in the American Revolution, important role in the dimming is an escalante expedition, and it all kind of can come together.

We are also looking for ways to connect, like to how does how's our community come together in times of crisis or in times of great change?

This is these seem to me like really easy connections to make to that idea of who we are as a country.

So it's I should have even said this 250 years since the declaration of independence was signed.

Um I just wanted to pitch that out there and not require anybody to do work that they don't want to do, but to just think about this as an opportunity, maybe for us and maybe for the city over the course of the year.

I think the campaigns will really wrap up next July 4, but things will be happening through the year.

I love that idea.

Cool, yeah.

I think there's a lot of things that we could happen there with we talked about the ethnic groups that were here and started to pull some of that in.

I think we have because right now they seem very reluctant for some reason.

Well, there it's risky, David.

That's the thing.

It's risky for some ethnic communities to be really public about their history.

So that's true.

Thank you.

I like that idea.

Let's discuss more.

Okay.

So thank someone for the website.

The important thing that we should figure out at least something to do for it and how we can be a part of the big celebration.

Could we put it on the agenda again?

Oh, you guys are talking about it.

Sorry.

We're gonna put it back on the agenda for next month.

I was gonna trust that.

All right.

Hey, let's review our action items for the next meeting.

Okay, um, I'm putting that America 250 on the next agenda.

Um so I will resend out the RLS report for that tier one for everybody to look at.

Um, I'll work with um Amy, our purchasing agent on that on the tier two RLS and get Kirk on board and we'll get that going.

Umgie needs to get the walking tour signs picked up.

Thank you for the fourth remainder.

Um, I will um get with Jason, but I'll kind of look into uh plaque ceremony for the widowmaker.

I need to reach out to Rhett, I think as well in our parks department.

In the past, his team has put plaques up for us.

Wendy you're going to continue working on the preserve language, getting with other entities to get their input and feedback.

I have two.

I can report on my two things.

Okay.

The brochure on the ethics.

I will get those on the agenda as well.

Jason and I need to meet about what home.

Can I just ask a question too?

In the budget, there was just enough for one home to be done for the year.

That's yeah, that well, that's what I put on the budget.

I'll go back in and take a look at it because we can you know the 10,000.

Okay.

We won't need since some of it will go into the next year.

So I'll I'll go back in and take another look and add it and send something uh more up to date out to everybody.

Okay.

Awesome.

Do you need any more information?

One more action item I'm adding for you, the NS AutoPAC.

Yes.

Okay.

Um I do want to get your contact information before you leave.

Okay.

Okay.

Um I think that is it.

Perfect.

Can I get a motion to adjourn?

I motion to adjourn.

I second it.

All in favor?

We are turned.

Yay.