We're on.

Okay, we're back into the open session.

The next item is a solid waste amendment.

Sir.

Um I'll I'll speak for this.

Uh so we brought this before you s a couple of times and we made decisions on this, and we just wanted to give this one last opportunity before we uh really commit to changing our order or changing the code to eliminate city services for garbage and uh recycling stuff on private roads.

The reason that we just to recap the reason that we're doing this, proposing this is really for liability purposes.

Um these roads are not safe for us to be driving down.

Uh so we have we put out an RFP with uh negotiated a contract with ACE disposal to provide services.

We weren't even sure that we were gonna be able to find someone.

We did uh they're willing to do it.

Uh the there is an increase in fee to I think thirty-eight dollars or two dollars.

It's currently uh fifteen.

So it's a significant increase.

Uh they will take the liability of going down these roads.

They what they intend to do is essentially put two people in their truck.

Uh as well as in some of these roads, they're gonna have to actually pick up the cans by hand and wheel them out.

So it's really sketchy.

Um the council also decided determined in previous meetings that that they didn't you didn't want to discretionarily divide up the private roads and we're gonna do some of them but not all of them.

So we've included just a blank a blanket statement in the code the new code that Draper City will no longer be providing uh services directly meeting with our uh department personnel and equipment uh uh for private roads.

Now what I expect is that there's gonna be some pushback.

Uh we've tried to anticipate that we know that the cost is going to affect some uh more than others.

Um so that can be an issue.

Uh so I just wanted to remind you of how we got to where we are, and I will be presenting the ordinance with the amended code tonight, but just wanted to give this and the agreement.

And the agreement, the agreement, but wanted to give you an opportunity to talk trash tonight.

We're just waiting for that one.

We did talk about the possibility of offering the option of them all rolling them out to main roads.

Yes, we uh if that's what they want to do.

Um I don't know that we've written we haven't addressed that in the code.

Um but we will not be I I think it's something we do right now and so it's it's been our practice to turn it down.

So there are all the whole lane would have to be allowed to universally agree.

No one is required to contract through the city regardless.

If somebody wants to do their own trash, they're allowed to as long as they don't break the health code.

Yeah.

So they could haul it to the land bill themselves, they could hire someone themselves.

Uh we we have had people uh try to do that in the past, they were not able to find any one.

When we put out our RFP, we had one company respond.

And that's partly why the prices are that no question about it.

So this would even address the private lanes where it's safe for us to access.

That's a harder argument to make.

For example, um Draper Heights, those are normal wood streets on a normal subdivision, except it's gated.

That's the only difference.

It's private streets and it's gated.

Uh other than that, it's not safe for us to go in there.

But we did not want, and we talked about this before, like um we don't want to treat any of these any different than if we only give the hardest ones to ACE, that's going to affect it.

Well, you can't just say, well, you're easy.

Right, right.

It's gotta be all around.

There's still liability associated with those roads because we don't own that.

Right.

So depending on how the agreement is written, you know, we have a hydraulic leak on our road.

We can choose how to clean that up and fix it.

We do that in Kick Rights, and they tell us you've destroyed the entire road, you need to repair it, reconstruct it.

There are some liabilities that they're out there.

Yeah.

And I know you have brought up can we not staff our own trucks with two people?

What happened with that?

Well, Robert's looked at that, and the the price probably for us is higher than what they quoted.

Now how long is their agreement?

It's a five-year term with two seven percent escalator.

Uh up to the CPI.

Uh it's five year with two three-year renews.

So we could go nine years.

Take us a little while to get stabbed.

We still end up with a liability.

Which is hard to when you look at the liability part of it, it's hard to say keep doing it because we run over one kit.

To Robert's point, we have had a claim, a couple claims where hydraulic lines have yes, burst and uh we've had to replace driveways, and you know, it it does happen.

You know, it's a nasty fluid.

Yeah.

I I think that this is a better way to go.

It's gonna be tough.

But it's one of the joys of living on a private lane.

That's right.

Private lane and choose to be on the private lane.

So is it the other thing is you can tell them to bring all their cans to the public road.

And that's the way we're so that's what I'm asking.

Is that truly viable for every private lane to opt into that?

No, I mean Draper Heights, there's no way they would wheel an issue.

Uh canning breeze is another one.

Right, there's some up in Suncrest that they wouldn't want to and then winter, but that again is because they have private flowers and they don't do a good job.

So we end up having to walk up and get them dice.

But they're gonna have two guys on their truck, and it's gonna be like the old days or like it is on the east coast where garbage truck guys hanging on the back, I guess, and lock down and bring all the cans back and then go put them back.

It should be interesting.

So I'm I'm just anticipating that this is gonna be rough on all of us, including you.

So I I'm just wanted to make sure before we how many people doesn't have thirteen hundred and just 1300 households.

Yeah.

To remind you, there are things that we are referring to as private streets in these other parts that they are not.

You're driving across somebody's lots.

There's no recorded easement.

There's a couple of those old private property.

They've just been there forever.

We've tried to solve this numerous ways and have not been able to come to a solution that fits all the private streets, not even close.

This is the only thing that's the bill.

So that is an enormous jump in price.

Well, yeah, like I reminded the last time I ride it, you guys.

We have not touched our solid race fee since we probably created it.

Well, if it makes you feel any better, we're gonna be proposing a rate increase across everybody else too.

So it's not like they're gonna be the only ones with this higher rate because we have no choice.

But if we're gonna keep doing garbage, we're gonna have to raise our rates in order to make it work.

So everybody's gonna have an increase.

Private streets should be able to remain somewhat solid at that price.

I mean, as long as their rates don't go up too much, but the other rates will have to go up.

Our general city garbage rates could have been.

Can that happen at the same time?

No, because we are not prepared to do that tonight.

And we have we're our this contract with ACE needs to start in November.

November November 1.

I see.

And they're prepared to do that.

We have done a lot of legwork.

We have notices ready to go out, pending your approval tonight.

Uh everything is ready to go.

Well, ACE has been extremely patient.

They provided their proposal in May.

And it's taken us this time to get to this point.

So they're we really could screw you guys up kind of right now.

So you'd still have we could screw ourselves up.

How many claims have we had?

I had asked Pat to get me that.

Um the number of claims that we've experienced in Solid Waste in the last six, seven years versus the number on the private streets.

I don't know what the percentage is.

Um I would say it's significant, more than 50%.

It would be good to have those numbers.

We have at least one number.

Two to three.

Two to three, if not more.

And we did just get a notice of claim and since your last um council meeting for a uh injury accident is gonna be fairly expensive.

From garbage?

Yes.

On the city street.

Not a private street.

Not a private street.

I would keep in mind most of our collection is on non-private streets, so that it's that you know, we would likely have most of our expense there, but we're closed.

But these are these are just dangerous ones, especially in the winter when there's snow and ice on the side, and the lane even gets more narrow.

And there's just no place to turn around, but the only way to do it is to pack it all the way up.

I just do feel for some of these older homes, older residents.

Yeah, that's what I'm concerned about.

But are on these not exactly private lanes.

That's gonna hit something up.

It might not seem like a lot to us, but it's to them it can be a lot.

Yes, it's a lot.

I guess the they are getting the credit because we're not getting the property tax increase that we thought, right?

Oh, the cost.

So obviously we're not making a decision here.

But when you guys are talking about rates going up, you're gonna have to raise rates across the board multiple times.

We're coming we're gonna come to that because it's not it's gonna be a regular occurrence because the cost of the landfill, it's just about ready to do this.

And it's just the transfer station, the hauling cost, trash is we're still the cheapest landfill in the world.

Um, but it's all going up because the garbage ultimately is gonna be going a hundred miles.

Do you think these rates have kind of calculated that whereas we haven't yet?

But it's private.

Their rates are strictly speaking to the liability associated with these roads.

So could an individual decide to take their own trash to the transfer station in Sandane?

Yeah.

How much would that cost them?

29 bucks a dump.

2950, right?

That's a ton.

I I don't remember why this is.

If you're less than a ton, then it's just the five.

No, at the transfer station, it's not you're not going to be clues pit anymore.

Nice, no boozy, no leche, no seagulls transfer station.

It's open.

It's only nice.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I haven't been yet, but I'm sure it's gonna be a gorgeous.

So is that a low price under 15?

I mean that's running the appeal of some of these people, right?

Trailer sales in the middle.

I mean, I suppose they dumped it up once a week.

They could never trail about six grand.

I don't know.

You can work as a neighborhood to all bring your trash can to the street.

Or you can personally take your trash to the job.

Or hire or hire to do it.

If you could find something.

But you gotta hit all the private streets because otherwise ACE's price is gonna go higher.

If you like let Draper Heights have them drive in there, but not well, no, we're not letting them drive in there.

They would have to pull it out to the public priority.

I mean breeze.

Well, no, they would drive in Draper Heights and pick it up.

They'll drive anywhere the only thing they can do it safely.

When they can't do it safely, they're gonna send a dude down there and he's gonna drag a cans in the or go back and down with the spot or the thirty-seven dollar.

Yeah, yeah.

Right, right.

But what I mean is we can't work.

Ace Ace made its bid based upon doing all the private streets.

So if we carve off the easy ones, their price is probably gonna go up.

Right.

I'm not saying that.

I'm saying residents do have a couple other options.

Yeah.

Like they could choose not to do ACE, not to do Draper City and seek out their own solution.

Right.

We've we've just provided an option for them with this contract if they want that option.

I mean, we have a lot of private roads outside of what we are currently servicing that we've required that of them.

We don't service them.

We don't we have not contracted with anyone else.

That's burden that's been on more than half of the roads in the city that are private are already being hauled by someone else.

So would those be included in this or not?

They've already know who they they use.

They never signed up for our utility over.

I don't know what our option is.

Other I mean I think we need to do it.

That's all right.

Transport stations do 20 bucks for a non-commercial under 10,000 pounds.

You'd have to save your garbage for a long time.

Yeah, there you go.

That might get kind of stinky.

But then we can have the overall discussion if you want to stay in the garbage business at all, which you know we we are gonna come to you with an idea about whether or not that makes sense as well.

But so but as far as the price going, these guys are gonna get the increase, but you're gonna end up having to increase it for everybody else if you want to stay in the garbage business.

Yes.

So that impact, I know it's gonna be stark right now, but that impact will decrease over the next few years as we increase the general population the public room.

So the transfer station went up seven dollars and fifty cents a ton to twenty-nine and fifty for our waste.

Um from seven dollars a ton to twenty-two dollars to twenty-nine fifty.

Uh but the the board has voted we will raise the fees two dollars every year for six or seven years, and then after that it's going to increase even.

There's another transportation that has to be built, and at that point when that's constructed in eight years, ten years, then everything will be hauled to pay you at the to a hundred mile round trip.

So that's where your fuel costs go up.

Oh, we the tra uh the landfill we have a contract with they'll have big trucks that just yeah, we're already using that the current transfer station.

So when you go to the transportation now, they loaded a big truck and haul it to the landfill.

Okay.

Yeah, it's just the land bill right now, isn't it sounds filled.

When that gets full, they're gonna build another transport stations there, and all of the trash will be hauled out to Baby, which is about 40 miles, four plus mile four.

That's a hundred year old.

Baby is a hundred years old.

Yeah.

We we do have some of the cheapest waste prices in the country.

Places like Seattle are 150 dollars a ton.

Okay, come.

Baby is fifteen.

Okay.

So do you have any other questions for us?

All right.

Jen, you're up.

Yep.

They're they're not loaded, so you have to pull them up from that.

Oh, okay.

I know that's city property.

Yeah, it's uh there we go.

Um, so you guys asked me to kind of look at the city property next door, kind of get a little bit of information about what we could do, what kind of space we have.

Um, I'm not gonna go through every slide.

I know there were a lot of slides I attached to the agenda.

I just wanted to kind of get you the information and then we can kind of dive into what's uh more important.

Um so the station area plan um looked at a medium community center uh next to City Hall, um, but it also looked at uh twin homes kind of lining the the south side of the property and town homes kind of lining the the road that will connect into uh the Fitzgerald property the ivory development um with mixed use here and connections to the park.

Um looking at plaza space, open space, that kind of thing.

Um the rendering that kind of went with that, but that was more the uh mixed use potential mixed use building.

So the city owns 9.27 acres next to City Hall.

Um that mixed use portion to that east side is five acres.

It has that stuff road that goes to Bay Bridge subdivision within that five acres.

Um, the western side, the community center portion size 4.27.

It has two homes, the historical society as well as parking for City Hall in it.

Um so this is the area that was kind of figured for the community center with the mixed use over here.

This is the stub road for uh Bainbridge subdivision with the idea that this would just go straight through and connect to Pioneer.

Um so there's lots of community interest.

I know you guys have heard from a bunch of different people, but uh visual performing arts, sports recreation, uh Historical Society Museum.

Um I did reach out to Brett to see, you know, if if we went the uh recreation side, what would he kind of be looking for?

His thought was um a building that could house uh three full-size basketball courts with potential for either black box theater next to it or a stage on one side where it could also be used for uh productions, that kind of thing.

Um I also reached out to Gary Cree to see kind of size-wise what he was thinking for the historical museum.

Um he's thinking about a 15 to 20,000 square foot building, 50 percent UV and 50 percent uh civic center with feeder space.

Um looking at our existing town center zone, and we would need to we do need to change this zone to account for the stationary plan, so you'll see text limits coming, and we'll we'll have more study sessions on potential text amendments, but looking at that now, auditorium, cultural service, um, municipal use reception center, those are all allowed uses within the town center.

Um about the parking standards for both.

Um, what we kind of figured looking at you know, parking landscaping, about two and a half acres of that property would probably be used for a civic center with that uh remaining acreage going towards the residential uses of the stationary plan counted for.

Um so I just kind of wanted to go through what some other cities have because I know that's really what you guys kind of need to kind of decide on is what ultimately you want to kind of have go there, and then we can work through the rest.

Um, West Jordan has a new facility, their community arts and events center.

Um, it is a black box theater.

Um it does have two multi-purpose rooms and our galleries, so you can rent space for meetings.

Um, but it is uh a 12,000 square foot feeder.

Um, it's located next to their park, the rec center, their pool, so kind of shares parking with all of those other events.

Um it did cost them eight point four million dollars.

They did get some grants from the county.

Um they used uh capital projects funds as well, and then they did some self work, like landscaping and utility work.

Um, they're anticipating this first year to only make $30,000 to $40,000 for uh you know service cost, um, and I've got the rental cost there, so it really is more of a theater space um with a few meeting rooms.

Um that's just the site plan.

So it's they did add some additional parking, but this is their you know, city park there and their rec centers right here in their pool there.

Um so Murray has a new facility, the armory.

This is a historic structure that's been adjacent to Murray Park.

Um they used to use it for storage.

Um they last year, early this year they uh renovated it and turned it into a center whether it's meeting rooms, event space, um, you can hold uh receptions, and they have an outdoor plaza.

Um and they paid uh for the improvements through their park impact feat, and it's a 4200 square foot facility, so it's a bit smaller, and that's the site plan for this.

So you know, you've got two small meeting buildings, and that um they added just a small amount of parking because it's next to the park, so it's utilized mostly parked uh parking.

Um Mill Creek Commons.

I know you guys are familiar with this.

Uh obviously a larger facility has a lot of different uses.

City Hall also has the meeting space on the top floor that can be rented out.

Um so Mill Creek Mill Creek Commons, the whole area, including City Call and all the different developments is part of their Milk Creek Center CRA fund or CRA.

So they're using funds from the CRA to help pay for some of this development plus impact fees, bonds, um, and then some public private partnerships with the other developers within the center.

Um they've got additional an additional phase that they're gonna start working on that'll add even more uses.

Most of it's all outdoor except for the uh um meeting rooms within City Hall, and then they have an art space in on the first floor city hall, but no theater, no theater, and no basketball courts, no basketball courts, yeah.

So they have the climbing wall, roller skating, the ice rink, a splash pad.

They're gonna have the new phase will have a skateboarding park and mini golf and playground.

So not really much of an indoor community center.

No, so the first floor city hall is more art space.

Um, and the few times I've been there, they've had more people selling local vendors selling things, um, but they could have some events there, and then on the top floor they have event space, but no feeder.

Um, and that's so this is this is City Hall here.

This is the uh open space that's available now.

This is the uh feature phase.

Yeah, they've already spent 20 million, or will the 20 million include the future space?

I think that's just what they've spent.

Yeah, but they don't really have anything that we need so much.

The climate wall goes all the way to the top of the building though.

That's pretty cool.

Um Riverton just renovated their Sandra Elloy Community Center, so this is the historic school that um includes their city hall um area.

Um so 15,000 square foot uh center, it's the 1930s school gym essentially, so they have an auditorium, um, meeting rooms, um, and they just added an outdoor plaza.

So this is an image of that outdoor plaza area outside of the uh community center.

So this is off of uh 13th West, just south of under 26.

Um the cost of the renovation was 2.6 million with 1.7 going towards the plaza.

They did get some funding from the county, um, and then uh used uh public works to do some of the work as well.

So a little bit of cost savings there.

Um it's the auditorium with stage and then some meeting rooms that uh people can rent as well, and then um so and it's part of the city hall, so city hall's right here, and then the community centers here with the plaza, and then there's a park next door as well.

Um they do share parking with this is the library and this is a senior center, but they they do share parking with the county facilities as well.

What's the 27 minus 34?

Um that's that's the parcel number.

Okay.

I I was trying to find an aerial that had the new new aerial, this is the only one I could find.

Um, and then I went ahead and grabbed some information about the cultural celebration center in West Valley.

I know this is a huge center, so it's more than what we're looking at, but they you know, trying to see what all the different cities have.

This center's 74,000 square feet, so it's quite a bit bigger.

They do have all their parking on site.

Um they've got uh 16 uh different meetings rooms, performance stage, art gallery, dance studio, and then outdoor amphitheater.

So they have quite a large um uh center there, they've got festival grounds, um, but they did 74,000 square foot facility for 12 million.

Um that's current yeah, and that's I don't think I I couldn't find a total breakdown.

So that so I'm not sure exactly what was included with 12 million.

So no one has exactly what we're kind of talking about, and that's which will make it even more unique, right?

But there's not a great model, yeah.

To go look at either.

I mean, we can see if there's what's the one in Taylor's bill?

Yeah, that was a county facility.

Oh, it's a county facility.

It's nice, isn't it?

Does it have a theater and basketball courts?

It doesn't look like it has any basketballs.

I think it's more of an arts performing art school.

Yeah, I don't think what I saw was either performing arts or sports, they really did combining them.

We go look at that.

Yeah, okay.

I'd really like to find a way to have both at all possible.

I agree.

That seems like a lot of museums maybe and that's just the numbers I got from Gary Free on what he he was thinking.

Um the historical society would be re have to be relocated when the city develops this property.

So that is one thing to keep in mind.

Where do they go?

Um, so whether the city finds another location for them or includes uh local includes room for them in whatever center that we do build.

Right, like I feel like maybe it could be like a second floor museum, right?

Not like half of the building.

Yeah, I do think if we're gonna include sports, um that it should have you know a separate feeder space and not a combined theater space, so we're not running into uh too many conflicts with programming, um, things like that.

Could they be two separate I don't know?

Just you have to ask it.

Could they be two separate buildings?

They could they could.

But yeah, I mean that just will take up a bit more room and takes up more space.

Yeah.

And then in that 2.5 acres, that included any outdoor space gathering space or anything like that.

Yeah, maybe we're basically without kind of drawing something up, we're not really knowing what to draw.

We just kind of looked at for using some of it for housing.

Um that's you and a half would be more.

That'd be really cool.

Yes, it would include your plaza, the building and pork, and then leave some for the open space that residents.

Yeah, George Building.

Yeah, what if we made a basement to that and put the basketball in the basement?

Yep.

I know it adds the cost, but it would be cheaper than well alternatives.

Honestly, with parking, if we're gonna do a center, having parking for that center, having parking for drapery days, things like that.

So we may be having structure anyway.

But yeah, it it going down, it's just gonna add cost, but it's you know, doable.

So when I went to the last meeting with Gary, um they were looking at the other side of the property, and it is pretty um graded, you know, sloped down.

And so they were thinking because they need um museum storage, um, archival stores, those kinds of things, that they could incorporate that without having to you know make the uh make it to the street level because I'm excited.

They could put all that underneath the east piece.

Yeah, that's where the bathroom of course I mean our mixture.

Yeah, like they there's a ratio of how much storage you need, which we don't have to the the artifacts and the you know I mean yeah, so you know it's where we build a tunnel between the community center to the city hall, and in that tunnel storage faults.

Okay, sure.

You know the other idea with them having it on the east side was because we've got um those we've got the day barn and we've got the cabin in the house that that could become like historic row or something where the museum would you know right there.

I'm not a super proponent for the recreation part of it, so there's my two sets and well I just think we struggle every year like the junior gas program.

There's never enough courts, and we can never fit in all the kids that want to play, like it is an ongoing need.

We don't have city basketball courts, and they didn't get incorporated into the rec center.

When I last talked, he was talking about trying to make the museum concept private enterprise where you simply lease land from us, not necessarily have us operate it.

Is that still what he's talking about?

Well, yeah, that's what he said.

So he called me last week, and that's what he said to me.

I don't know how that works.

Yeah, I don't really want to lease city land at private enterprise for a city museum.

But I think he was thinking about starting like a nonprofit that would do a foundation that would run it.

So we don't necessarily like a I don't know what we're doing.

But we wouldn't need to necessarily lease the land to still do that, would we?

What land extra land do we have?

I mean, if we put in all of these things for town center, salt dome could go right there along with the grind building and the mechanic shop.

Said you needed 10 acres, right?

There it is.

There's a silo across the street.

We just use that silo as the man's the salt palace sits on week storage, you know.

County doesn't own that property.

There's a lot of that where it's you know, least and they operate it and it never owns it against the revenue stream.

Right, but we have things we want to put on this land, so if we well he doesn't all you just wanted a pars a parcel for the museum thing, but yeah.

Is could you build a very small museum up in that empty parcel by the day line?

So that is county land.

Um he hasn't looked into that.

Um feels like he wants something different.

Like, I think you guys gotta decide what you want to do.

You really want a community center, then you gotta figure it work that's what I told them.

I said we've got to decide what they want to do with this line.

I think he's willing.

I mean, he he has his own vision, right?

That I think may not align with what will actually be viable because not everybody wants to see a whole display about Port of Rockwell, right?

I think that he is willing to get experts in that would say this is what people want to see, this is how you're gonna attract people to the museum.

And what they said, these architects have said is that a standalone museum is just not really um attractive.

And so if you can incorporate other things into it, so um I think you know it's possible to put something on that little piece.

If we were to talk to the county, we couldn't be there big.

We were looking about to do the gold star there, and so we talked to them about taking that piece of that and um I would decide not to, but we can talk to them.

But then again, it's back to that who's gonna visit it if it's isolated.

Yeah, and I mean he they seem very willing to incorporate the things that that we want.

I do think that you know, we have a uh somebody from the preservation commission who's joining these meetings, and you know, the two of us are really trying to voice what we think would be viable, and I think eventually he'll come to that when you know we get we could get like Chabo involved and others, you know, entities involved to help direct what would actually work there.

I felt in my discussion with him though that he was open to the idea that it could be just the state owner museum.

I felt like he was gotten away from that idea.

Yeah.

Um and I think too incorporating some things within the design of the building, so that the museum might be throughout the building, so some have some historical things like as decor using this decoration, and that's kind of the theme of the building, which would take away space from having an actual museum in the building.

So I guess I think he's open to ideas.

Well, you guys gotta decide what you want to do with it, and you probably need someone to lay it out for you, giving you a cost system so you can make the mine more than just ride.

I mean, yeah.

I mean, are is there something specific that you'd like staff to look more into?

I would like to see some sort of a community center that has this theater and has some rec facilities in it, and then the second story.

I like Bryn's idea of having some of the museum as you come into this, like when you walk into the Hale or some of these other places, there are other displays.

So you can have some of our history on display as you enter, and then it could lead up to a grand stairway with pictures of the history of draper.

So for the rock.

It feels very welcoming and it also feels very draper.

And it invites people to go explore draper's history.

Okay.

I also did mention to them that it would be nice to have event space to hold city, you know, and then like luncheon except that I heard that you know we're getting too big for that.

Tomorrow we work on that.

Yeah, so that's something that they're willing to, you know, put in there that could also be rented out as you know, reception center or events they careful.

Or we'll work on putting together some ideas, uh turning back feedbacks.

But let's say that it's feasible that you could do the basketball courts in the basement area.

Yeah, I think that's the right idea.

You have to just dig it.

Or you could have a half-based.

It's a line, exactly.

Yeah.

So we'll yeah, we'll work on some data conditions back with you.

Also if they were willing to, you know, incorporate outdoors and that would be kind of gathering or like an ice ribbon or something like that.

And you can do that, and you could use the basketball porch to have reception.

You can have a city lunch that we've even talked about outdoor space.

And I keep trying to get them to integrate that little piece by you know the day.

Uh beyond just like the station and how we're really talking about outdoor space.

Right.

Yeah.

Some kind of fun with some kind of space.

Yeah.

And and trail space like next to the different.

Yeah, I did say that too.

I said we wanted the trail, so they were looking to see where they could connect it.

Okay.

So okay.

Well, we're all work on getting guys some additional information.

So direction is community center combo with rec and combo with museum.

Is that right?

Do you agree with that, Mr.

Green?

We'll take his silences.

Okay.

Yeah, that is it back in.

I agree with Cardination.

What's next?

Um 250.

250, you tell 250.

Oh, yeah.

Um, I am as well.

I've told Kelly to feel free to chime in.

Um, so we 250 years for America.

Um, so uh countries doing some celebrations, Utah is doing some celebrations called Newtah 250.

They are um doing a program called Utah 250 community.

Um Historic Preservation Commission, their last meeting kind of brought up potentially doing an event in conjunction with the various events the state will be throwing on.

They brought up um Utah 250 community, which would be Draper City actually joining with uh passing a resolution to become a 250 community with the state to do events.

Um I know Kelly and David Wilkes have kind of been looking at this and looking at possible events that we could do.

Um Historic Preservation Commission was discussing events that we could do.

So really kind of looking tonight to see if you guys are interested in becoming uh uh Utah 250 community, or not wanting to do that, but okay, letting the various commissions do events.

Or both or both, quite a bit.

Or both, yeah, yeah.

I think we need to take advantage of this hundred and fifty celebration.

How many of you remember 1976?

I mean, that was I was I was born.

That's not great.

I mean, I remember that by centennial year.

I mean it was a big deal.

I was really negative eight.

You were not bored.

All the more white celebrating.

It's a memorable.

We talked about this at the league conference.

I think we should I think we should do our own event and use their resources to come up with it.

But I mean it's a big deal.

250 years, the republic.

I think we need hope in our government, hope in our constitution.

The story of the constitutions and the revolutions really want to hope and you know, vision and excitement and life and people getting freedom.

I think we should sell.

I think we should tie Draper Days into it too.

I mean, they produce part of the celebration.

So we went to this class and they talked about different things.

I mean, if if we do a resolution and form a committee by the end of the year, they'll be able to fifteen hundred dollars to use.

But um we did go ahead and reserve every pavilion in the park uh or in the city on Sunday Do you like this because they really pushed this America's potluck idea.

So we thought if we have all the pavilions reserved and we have a little bit of money we could do like to provide drinks or report clothes or something and just do a whole city potluck.

And I think uh Zoe reserved them for me today.

I think there was like maybe like 10 or something.

The speaker at the at the league conference was a historian who's a you know, three time Pulitzer Prize winner.

He's written the trilogy on the revolution, and he talked a little bit about General Washington and the whole fight and just it was inspiring to hear just some of the just the way it was, just the level of commitment sacrifice, everything that went into it.

I think we should do it.

Oh, do it as well.

I'd like the walk two fifty idea because we have these amazing trails.

I don't think anybody really wants to walk 250 miles, but if we can get it some reasonable, I think yeah, they talked about that in the year or something.

I know Mr.

Green walk down the parade route with the drums.

Um revolutionary drum.

Yeah, like uh so Mayor uh there like Mayor Blackwell got up and she had something planned like every month.

But the speaker said you can like take advantage of events we already have.

Like we could do something at Memorial Day.

David Wilkes is talking about having 250 kids walking the parade holding flags or something.

That would be really cool.

So that would be cool.

Um but we can do, and so we can do yeah, as big as you want it.

But yeah.

Um another event is uh planning 250 trees, and so I was thinking maybe we could reach out to the tree committee.

They have uh money that they were gifted that they haven't been able to use, and I think you know, they would love to be able to use it, so that could be one thing.

We could do that on Arbor Day or something.

Yeah, that's great.

And and so I think as far as the committee, it could be kind of like real unofficial, like our gold star, and just whoever wants to join.

If we could get people from historic community engagement, just put the word out, volunteer.

Yeah, and then they would probably kind of direct the you know our having like a constitution at the end of the walk that everybody who did the 250 walk could sign.

Yeah, I think I uh cool.

All right, we have a few minutes in, is all we got.

Yeah.

You want to do council manager now or do it in there?

Let's just do it for it.

Who's got stuff?

I don't.

Ren?

Marsha.

Oh, I had this, so done.

Okay, great.

I don't have any.

Mr.

Green.

No, I'm nothing.

I will see you in the room in ten minutes.

Somebody staff have anything?

Yep.

Sure.

So you may have noticed if you followed our social media.

We've been having a little fun with the Puma that was last on the trails.

Um we're we're kind of leading up to the Puma being captured by animal services.

And we would like to adopt a Puma as a city mascot.

Oh yes.

So we wanted to page the meetings about that.

Um we would have like a naming contest.

Oh, that's really key.

People have asked to take selfies with it.

So what it would have owner of him of the now.

What he comes back.

We checked with the police and we're sure there was no report class.

Uh against the prank system.

They're expensive though.

What's the spend up in the money?

The only thing is it has a hashtag something on it, which we've camouflaged in taking photos of it, but moving forward if we have it out places we'd like to find an artist or somebody who could do a nice job covering that up.

The hashtag doesn't go to anything though, because I tried to find it.

I do too.

So there's not anything naughty.

But um we're calling it Puma because Cougar's wise.

It's gonna be in our Honda Trails.

It's the same reason the corner canyon is the chargers and not the cougars.

Yeah, yeah.

It could be mountain.

I mean, people seem to be enjoying it, and we just thought everyone needs to lighten up a little.

So you know, I think it's so funny.

So are you all in agreement?

Puma.

Or jaguar, if you will.

Yeah, poll cat mountain lion.

We're gonna probably be laughed at though if it looks like a mountain lion in it.

Are you all good with what she's proposing?

I think we should call them mountain lion, not a full line.

Yeah.

Right.

I mean, we could name it'll be Central America.

Right.

Mountain Lions, and we have a mascot of the Mountain Lions.

Okay, and well, are you guys okay with the naming contest?

But we thought is instead of people just like freestyling names and people voting, and we could end up with something we don't want to use for the voting movies.

I don't like him.

I think he's scary.

We can take suggestions and then filter and choose like five and have people vote on.

I think one of the mistrapers suggested Paul McCartney.

Are you all good with that?

Anybody have anything else?

I do.

Um, so starting January 1st, we need to um Alan Summerhay's term on the Jordan Basin Improvement District ends.

And there's two, there's two routes you could take.

One is to appoint a council member um to um be the city's representative on that board, or there's a uh a selection process that uh is outlined in state code if you want to appoint somebody else other than a council member.

Um I talked to their attorney at the league uh briefly, and um they've got some really important issues coming up over the next couple of years, and and his suggestion and hope was that somebody from the council or the mayor um might want to be the city's representative, but that we leave it up to you folks to make that decision.

But we need to have somebody in place ready to go by January 1st.

So I will kind of lay that out and maybe come back to you in another couple of weeks.

Um that's a really good question.

The letter that I received didn't outline exactly what the time committee is.

7 a.m.

Saturday or something.

I don't know.

I know how much she likes to do it.

Is it a Zoom meeting, or is it like we have to drive out somewhere?

Let me get you the information.

I'll come back in in two weeks with some monthly information.

I think that we should probably keep it in-house, and then you do mayor slash council from there that will go accounts and we'll go.

And then you also put a staff person on it that we need that kind of follow-up.

Especially if there's some really heavy decisions that are gonna be.

Like it kind of disappears.

Oh, yeah, Scott.

Well, you guys don't have a lot going on, so I'll bring back I'll bring this back in two weeks with more information.

But we'll have to redo jobs in December.

So I just lost it.

Right.

We could nominate you to be the.

Oh, that's a good idea.

Sure, yeah.

She will have some time on our own.

Scott, can I know I'm I'm getting asked questions in the status on 138?

How's our schedule tomorrow?

For real?

Yeah.

It's gone tomorrow.

It'll pay for start payment tomorrow on Thursday and then skipping the weekend.

Because of the rain and temperatures, yeah.

So hopefully in the next week or ten days.

It'll be black.

We'll still have stuff on the side.

Probably till mid-November.

We'll have the raise and all that stuff.

So it probably won't be open until mid-November.

Better if it's not open, but we can open it.

We're getting some sort of traffic.

That's what you want.

We'll try to do it earlier.

Hopefully the weather clock rates.

Okay.

All the hard work pretty much done.

They did put some down.

Yeah.

They're all here.

Thank you.

Bathroom, we'll get in there and make on seven.

Will you join me in the question?

Thank you, John.

Item number three, which was scheduled as a recognition for Captain Evans is gonna is postponed until uh a date yet to be determined.

Um that'll take us to item number four, which is an opportunity for uh individuals to make general public comment to the council.

If you're here for an item that's set for a public hearing, and we have a few of those.

I ask that you wait until that public hearing comes up so we can keep our record clear.

But is there anyone that would like to make a general public comment?

Um, I have a card from Peter Durbin.

Peter, is that on a general item?

Uh okay.

Let me just go go over the rules.

Um, if you haven't done it before, there's a timer to my right, your left, three minutes.

Everyone gets three minutes.

You certainly don't have to use all three minutes, but you can.

Um, but at the end of the three minutes, it'll buzz, it's not obnoxious, and then your turn will be over, even if you're in the middle of a wonderful thought.

Um, but we will be happy to take your comments again.

You can ask the council questions, but they'll be rhetorical in nature because they're just gonna listen.

So Mr.

Durbin, come on up, sir.

You're first.

Give us your full name and address, and that'll start the timer.

Yeah, it's Peter Drew Ben, 14953, South Auburn Sky Drive, Draper, Utah.

Uh good evening, Mayor Walker and City Council members.

Uh, my family has called Suncrest home for the past 12 years, and when it came time to select a new home site in 2018, we found a perfect lot in Hidden Canyon Estates neighborhood that gave us a balance of privacy and views of Utah Lake, which we were after.

Uh, I even went as far as working with former Draper City Manager, Mr.

David Dobbins, uh, to make sure that our investment was protected for years to come and that the nearby land for the future access road to Mercer Mountain Estates would not impact our home site.

Uh, per the 2017 maps provided by Mr.

Dobbins, as well as the current Utah County assessor, uh, there's a 90-foot section of Draper City owned land between my property line and the 51 foot wide Mercer Mountain Access Road.

Uh, in addition to that 90 feet of open land between my parcel and that of Mercer Mountain, my parcel is 49 feet higher in elevation, which would protect the views and privacy in which we paid a premium for.

Uh, as of today, that Mercer Mountain project has added approximately 60 feet of elevation via fill dirt across the entire 90-foot wide parcel owned by Draper City, which in turn has completely eliminated all views and privacy from our homes and eroded hundreds of thousands of dollars in value.

What was once a beautiful view of Utah Lake is now obstructed by a dusty mess of construction and eventually vehicle traffic.

Uh and to make the planning even worse, the new road height for Mercer Mountain is five to ten feet above our fence line, so the vehicles driving by can now look into our once private backyard.

Uh and while I understand that the applicant would have rather used Draper City's land as a dumping ground for his unwanted fill dirt instead of paying millions of dollars to truck it down the hill.

For my neighbors and me, that now equals a constant feeling of being watched, no more sleeping with the windows open, no more private space for my kids to play, and no more serenity.

I worked really hard to create a perfect space for my family, and it's incredibly saddening to see the city I love replace that space with developer profits.

Thank you.

Thank you, sir.

Is there anyone else who would like to address the council and the general public comment?

All right, seeing none, I'll move on from item number four.

Item number five, which starts our consent items.

Item five A is approval of the September 16th, 2025 City Council meeting minutes.

Oh, that's it.

I guess that's the only item.

Is there a motion?

Mr.

Mayor.

Go ahead.

I move we approve the September 16th, 2025 City Council meeting minutes.

Motion by Ms.

Fodry to approve their second.

I'll second.

Second by Miss Lowry.

Any further discussion?

Seeing them Ms.

Fodry, how do you vote?

Yes.

Ms.

Lowry?

Yes.

Mr.

Lowry.

Yes.

Ms.

Johnson.

Yes.

Mr.

Green.

Yeah.

Items approved unanimously five to zero.

Takes us to item number six.

Item number six.

The first item is six A.

It's a public hearing.

It's resolution 2550.

It's a resolution amending the adopted budget of Draper City for fiscal year 2025-2026.

We'll have Mr.

John Vik, our finance director.

Go ahead, sir.

We have a few items on this on this budget amendment.

I'll talk about them briefly.

If you have questions, please feel free to stop me.

So the first item is uh we make some projections in April when we're preparing the budget as far as CIP projects that are going forward.

As those projects get finalized or not finalized during the previous fiscal year, there are some amounts that we have to adjust just based on the dollars uh needed to complete those projects.

And so you can see this broken down by the different funds and the total amounts that we need to allocate to the CIP funding.

That's not new money, that's money that's coming from previous years, just to clarify.

So there are two new items that we're bringing forward.

Um we had a discussion uh in one of the study sessions about the police department desire to um get some cameras to assist in policing activities, um, and we are pulling $50,000 from fund balance to be able to support the police in that uh activity, and then uh we went out for a new contract to provide lighting for Christmas uh for holiday lighting, and uh that bid came in a little bit higher than we were expecting, and so we're coming to you uh requesting an additional 40,000 for the holiday lighting.

Item 2604 and 2605 are some water uh well first it's a storm water, so we there's some benzom damage on the golf course, and we need to go in and fix that.

So we have some money in the stormwater fund that we are in the from fund balance that we are proposing to use for uh repairs to the golf course, and as the city moves forward, we need to replace all of the water meters so that we can read those in with new technology, and that's gonna take about three years.

Uh, we're asking for 350,000 in this fiscal year from water fund balance to be able to do that.

Um, next year there will be another amount for 350,000, and then in the third year, we'll close it up and have a better idea of what that final amount will need to be.

Um item the next item is 138 south widening.

Um, that project is nearing completion.

Um, but what we are looking at is being able to take the funding uh from the places where it is most restrictive.

So stormwater impact fees are the most restrictive funding, and we as we've done the project, we've been able to determine that instead of funding only 850,000 from that fund, uh there's really been 1.3 million in work done that is eligible to be used from stormwater impact fee.

And so we're really just replacing the money from the highway project funds, what can be used for other projects as well.

And uh the next one is the pump station capacity.

We purchased the pumps or we got started in purchasing the pumps, and uh as they begin the repairs, uh they need some additional funding to be able to do that.

We wanted to get the pumps purchased, and you approved that in a previous budget amendment so that we could get those on order and at the at a lower price before the uh rates went up.

So we annually are replacing um pressure reducing valves throughout the city, um, and we set aside a million dollars per year.

Um, this is just recognizing that million dollars and setting it up with uh CIP to do that, and then the last item.

Uh as you are aware, this the state did not approve our certified tax rate with an increase, and so we are reducing the property tax revenue by the amount that was not approved in by the state.

Uh and that's everything on the amendment.

If questions, any questions for Mr.

Vike?

I just have one question, John.

On the um water meter reading, do we have any idea what we will save in funds where we don't have to individually visit those meters?

I'm looking to Robert or Scott to see if they have any ideas.

Not particularly.

Um the the most definite cost up front will be the determination of any leaks will be notified instead of us discovering those.

So we'll be able to you know increase our conservation, but there would be a reduction in staffing hours once we installed radio towers that could read that information without us going close to them.

All right, thanks.

And perhaps could you clarify for our audience why we are paying as a city for the county golf course.

Can I take a correct then?

Yeah.

So I've I tracked down the agreement that we have with Salt Lake County, it was signed in October of 20 2001.

Um it recognizes the city's obligation is obligated to maintain stormwater systems.

Um in this agreement, I I don't know the history of it.

Um the county said that that they would do the work and the city would pay for the work.

Um but I think Scott will confirm that over the years this just has not happened.

So really we have that obligation, and the um at this point, I think we're prepared just to do the work and pay for the work that we're going to do anyways, which under the agreement we're obligated to put pay for.

I will note that there's a termination clause that we can terminate this agreement uh with 30 days' notice.

Um perhaps staff we can meet and come back with a recommendation on that because it I don't think nobody's following this agreement.

It's it's 24 years old, and um so to answer your question, uh councilwoman Lowry, we have that obligation, and so whether we do the work or the county does the work, we're the ones actually footing the bill for it because it is our system.

But it does cost us more in staff time if we're doing the work.

Correct.

So it would be nice if they were reimbursing us for that.

It would be, but there's no obligation under the contract to do that.

Um, and they just don't have the people to do it.

And Scott, it looks like you have something to add.

So the specific issue that we're facing right now is a water or a storm drain line that it didn't exactly fail it, but it overflowed in the flood of 223, and it just has never been repaired.

It's uh it's a big line, and it's sort of just it's on a very steep slope and it's eroded significantly.

So it's actually our our uh storm drain line.

It it comes from our public road and goes through the golf course, and that's why that's our responsibility, particularly on that specific line.

There's other areas that we also need to work on that we just haven't gotten to yet.

Anyone else have any questions?

Can we go back to the Christmas lights?

So actually, I think you're already there.

Um, obviously, we all love the Christmas tree lighting.

I believe there was some mitigating factor with these lights.

Can you speak to that, Mr.

Barker?

I was going to, thank you.

Um so we've contracted with the same vendor for several years.

Um, and over the years, staff has invested actually a lot of staff time as well as we've provided lights for them to hang.

Um, but unfortunately, when they take them down, rather than taking them down carefully and returning them to us, um, according to Rhett, they uh are just as likely as to cut them down, and so each year we end up investing staff time as well as uh funds to purchase new strands of lights.

My understanding is this particular agreement is kind of all inclusive in that this particular vendor that's been selected will buy the lights, put the lights up, take them down and store them.

And so we're asking for a 40,000 dollar um budget adjustment, but in speaking with Rhett, although we won't probably get 40,000 back in savings.

There are some savings that we will realize because staff won't be involved, and we won't be buying new strands of lights every year.

Anybody else?

I do just want to point out if you go to the pressure reducing valve cost.

Um at a million bucks, so just so the public is aware.

We have a very complex water system.

Fact.

It might be one of the most complex water systems any municipality has anywhere in the country.

And we have extreme pressure in a lot of our lines.

One of these valves can cost a million dollars.

So it's not just a matter of, and they're not on the shelf.

You can't go to you know wherever you would go.

I don't know, the valve ship store, and just pick one up.

You have to they're customized and they're expensive.

So this may seem like a lot of money to just put in a fund, but one valve can be a million.

So all right.

This is a public hearing.

It's resolution 2550.

Um, it's a resolution amending the adopted budget for Draper City for physical year 2025-26.

Is there anyone from the public that would like to address the council on this item?

Come on up.

Brad Byington, 14932 South Eagle Crest Drive.

Uh, Mayor Walker, council members.

I was a federal law enforcement agent for 15 years.

I left as a law enforcement executive.

Uh I have an advanced degree in security administration, and over the course of my education and training, I was always taught that techno technological advancements in law enforcement and security from any level at the municipality, at the state level, at the federal level can be a massive investment that saves tenfold or more over the course of uh its utilization.

So I urge you to use the fifty thousand dollars, which is a very small amount for our budget, uh, to get the license plate reader cameras that are being requested because they'll not only make our community safer, but I think we will spend less time looking for criminality.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Anyone else like to address the council on item 6A?

All right, seeing no further public comment, I'll close the public hearing, bring us back to the council.

Mr.

Mayor, go ahead.

I make uh a motion that we approve resolution 25-50.

All right, motion by Mr.

Lowry to approve uh resolution 2550 is their second.

I'll second second by Ms.

Johnson.

Is there any further discussion on this motion?

Heart seeing none.

Mr.

Lowry, how do you vote?

Yes, Ms.

Johnson.

Yes, Mr.

Green.

Yeah Ms.

Lowry.

Yes, Ms.

Fodry.

Yes.

It's approved unanimously five to zero.

Takes us to item number seven, it's an action item, the action items.

Item number seven A is ordinance 1680.

It's a solid waste text amendments and ordinance amending Draper City Municipal Code Section 7011-010 and 7011-030 regarding collection of solid waste and recyclable materials on private streets.

We'll have our public works director.

Mr.

Cooley, go ahead, sir.

Thank you, Mayor and Council.

Uh just want to present this ordinance to you as we've been talking about the past several months.

The city has undertaken uh to change our solid waste program to eliminate due to uh liability purposes, eliminate private roads from our collection process within the city using city uh equipment and personnel, and to contract that out to a third party provider.

In order to do that, we need to amend the city code, which is what this ordinance does.

Uh it identifies that we do have limited resources.

That you know, it's not unlimited, so we're trying to be as smart as we can in how we provide services.

Uh, but these specific sections 7-11-10 and section a lot 7-01-30 will clarify that the city is no longer collecting uh solid waste and recycling on private streets, but will provide this third-party qualified contractor to do that service.

So like to go to the that code change.

So specifically, really the only uh most of the change a lot of these changes above and below this blue line are just um really not that in important, but on section two B it says uh in identifying subdivisions accessible by private streets, which is uh defined as private subdivisions.

Effective November 1st, 2025, Draper City will no longer directly provide collection services to private subdivisions.

The city may arrange collection services for private subdivisions currently serviced directly by the city through a qualified third-party provider.

Collection charges for these subdivisions will be subject to the applicable service charge as outlined in the city's consolidated fee schedule, which may differ from public street rates to account for the additional costs of private street collection.

Alternatively, private subdivisions or individual residents may choose to independently contract with another service provider for rep use and recycling collection to ensure uninterrupted service, those opting for an independent contracts must notify the city in writing.

So that that is the ordinance change that we are proposing.

And do you have any questions that I can answer in regards to this?

I think Mr.

Cooley, it might just help if you just want to clarify too.

One of the the reasons why we're needing to do this is from a liability standpoint and other areas.

Yes, reset.

Um it's it's unfortunate that we have to do this because uh we would love to continue servicing all of Draper City, but just due to the nature of these roads, it's it's just too much of a liability for the city to bear.

Thank you.

And I do believe that the majority or at least a significant portion of private roads within Draper City are already being serviced by private contractors.

Is that correct?

That's correct.

Because of these liability issues.

Pardon.

So this would just be a continuation of that trend.

Yes, so there are many um a lot of these subdivisions uh have we have been servicing for a long time since the city initially started its solid waste collection, and uh there's there's been a a lot of subdivisions that have come in that are private, and we've required them to contract on their own with a different provider, non-city provider.

And so that I'd say the majority of our private roads are in that condition.

These are these are just ones that we've been doing for a long time, primarily, some of them not so much, but primarily that's the condition that we find ourselves in.

And the difference between some of these private lanes and regular public city roads can be that the road width is smaller, it makes it not safe for our trucks to travel.

Yeah, some of these roads actually aren't roads, they're just private property.

Um they're not dedicated to anyone, they're not held as an easement even.

So we don't actually even have a right to drive on them.

So they're some of their asphalt sections are not even adequate to support our vehicles.

Uh that they don't have adequate turnarounds.

Uh a lot of times we can't even get in there because they they've got parking issues where our truck can't get by.

So, and then we end up having to back all the way out of some of these roads because there is just no turnaround to turn our trucks around on.

Thank you.

One of the benefits of private lane living is you get nice private lane, but you also get smaller and more up, you know, on this.

So, this is just definitely gonna protect our our taxpayers in the sense of we won't have the liability to deal with that we've been dealing with anybody else have any comments or questions.

All right, this is an ordinance uh for action.

Is there a motion?

Both of it bullshit.

No, no, we didn't.

This is opportunity for motions.

May have a motion, Mr.

Mayor.

I'll I'll make a motion.

All right, that we approve all ordinance 1680.

All right, motion by Mr.

Lowry to approve ordinance 1680 solid waste text amendments are second.

Uh second.

Second by Ms.

Vodry.

Any further discussion?

No.

All right.

Mr.

Lowry, how do you vote?

Yes.

Yes.

Ms.

Lowry.

Yes.

Ms.

Johnson.

Yes.

All right.

Mr.

Green.

Yes.

I'm approving absolutely five to zero.

I number seven B is next.

It's resolution 2551.

It's a resolution approving an agreement with ACE recycling and disposal ink for solid waste and recyclable material collection on private streets as previously stuck.

Discuss Mr.

Cooley, go ahead, sir.

Okay, thank you, Mayor.

Uh this is really just for the agreement that is with ACE disposal services.

Uh the authorizes the mayor to sign that agreement.

Just to give you a little history on this, we in anticipation of doing this, making this change to our city code.

We uh sent out an RFP.

Uh it was advertised, and uh we uh selected ACE as the uh winning bid of that RFP.

We negotiated this contract and accordingly we present this to you.

Um I won't pull up the agreement, it's it's just a a standard agreement with ACE disposal.

But um if you have any questions, I'll be happy to answer those in regards to this.

All right, any questions from Mr.

Cooley.

How many bids did you receive on this RFP?

One they were the most qualified out of one.

One provider made a bid, so there you go.

You can tell that it's uh significant business that they're doing.

So you know, to get it's not easy work, I guess is probably the best way to look at it.

They recognize the difficulty in in these private lanes, so I think that some of the uh other providers were not willing to give us a bid because of that.

So I think it's probably the way that I understand it.

This bid included because of the liability that we have been assuming in order for them to help limit that liability, they'll have two individuals on these private lanes.

Uh that's what they have told us.

Uh I don't we don't control how they will do the work, but they have told us that that's the case, and then they've also told us that in a few of these that they feel are even not they're too dangerous for them to drive on there, they'll have someone get out and tote the their uh trash cans down to the public road or they pick them up.

Now, whether that happens or not, I don't know, but we won't control how they do it, but they'll own the liability associated with how they drive their trucks and what they do with their trucks.

Okay.

All right, anything else?

It's a resolution set for action or motion, Mr.

Mayor.

Go ahead.

I move we adopt resolution number 25-51.

Motion by Miss Vodry, adopt resolution 2551's or second.

I'll second.

Second by Miss Lowry.

Further discussion.

Seeing on Ms.

Vodry, how do you vote?

Yes, Miss Lowry?

Yes, Mr.

Lowry.

Yes, Ms.

Johnson, yes, Mr.

Green.

Yes.

It's approved unanimously five to zero.

Item seven C is next.

It's resolution 2552.

It's a resolution amending the call consolidated fee schedule of Draper City, and we'll have uh our finance director, Mr.

Vike.

Go ahead, sir.

So in conjunction with the previous uh resolution, uh we needed to add that new fee to the consolidated fee schedule.

Uh accordingly, we also have made a few changes.

There are some changes within animal services.

Sorry, I have the clean copy up and not the red line.

Uh we also cleaned up some of the fees listed in the business licensing section, uh, trying to make it easier and more consumable for the uh people uh for the residents.

But at the end, if I can get there really fast, you can see uh that under uh public services we have added uh the uh changes for the private street servicing right here uh into the consolidated fee schedule.

Um we also noted that change that was made with the momentum glass recycling, and that that fee is now charged directly through momentum recycling.

So those are some of the changes that were uh within that changes to the consolidated fee schedule questions from Mr.

Vike.

I'm motion Mr.

Mayor, I make a motion that we approve resolution 25-25.

Motion by Ms.

Johnson to approve resolution 2525 seconds 52.

Oh, I'm sorry, 2552.

Second, I'll second.

Second by Miss Lowry.

Any further discussion?

All right, seeing Ms.

Johnson, how do you vote?

Yes, Miss Lowry, yes, Mr.

Lowry, yes, Mr.

Vaudry, yes, Mr.

Green.

Yes.

Adams approved unanimously.

Seven or five.

Zero.

Getting my numbers a little mixed up today.

I don't know.

It's all the wasp stings I've suffered this month.

7D is next.

Resolution 2549's resolution of the Draper City Council canceling.

Oh, canceling the race for the four-year-at-large city council seats and certifying Tasha Lowry and Mike Green as elected.

So this is a good thing.

I'm sure there'll be a spirited debate on this.

We'd like to go forward.

On the ballot this year, we have three seats for mayor and then a two-year city council seat and then two seats for four-year city council.

And we had this resolution is in regard to the four-year race.

We had two open seats and we had three candidates.

But on September 15th, a candidate withdrew, leaving two candidates and two open seats.

So Utah State Code allows us to cancel a race within an election.

If there is a there's an uncontested race.

So we have 20 calendar days before the election, and we're within that time frame.

So staff recommends adopting the resolution declaring Tasha Lowry and Mike Green as elected for the four-year seats.

Yay.

Oddly enough, right?

Can you speak to that a little bit about Salt Lake County who administers our elections?

Um they charge per race on the ballot.

So with this gone, they have estimated at the lowest, maybe $70,000 savings.

So we'll see if it pans out.

I'm I'm not sure.

But that is in theory is supposed to save us quite a bit of money.

Yeah, interesting concept.

All right, is there a motion?

I think you should do that.

Mr.

Mayor, gosh, I don't think I should make a motion.

I'd like to make a motion that we approve resolution 25-49.

All right, by motion by Ms.

Johnson to approve resolution 2549 is our second.

I'll second.

Second by Ms.

Vaudry.

Any further discussion?

Congratulations.

Thank you.

Thank you guys.

A hard fought race.

Yes, for sure.

Congratulations.

All right, Ms.

Johnson, how do you vote?

Yes.

Ms.

Vodry.

Yes.

Ms.

Lowry?

Yes.

Mr.

Lowry.

Yes.

Mr.

Green.

Yeah.

Unanimous 5-0 unanimous vote.

I was kind of hoping for a tie.

Which I could have decided to break or not.

Uh would have been.

You guys should have helped me out there.

One of you could have walked, it would have been fun.

Anyway.

All right.

Next item is resolution 7E, resolution 2554.

It's a resolution of Draper City Council authorizing a petition to change the name of Stampede Drive to Bailey Quinn Lane.

We have Spencer Duchenne, one of our legal attorney, one of our attorneys.

Go ahead, sir.

Hi.

Um you might be wondering why is an attorney doing this?

And the answer is the code's pretty complicated, so that's why we're doing it.

Um one of my personal heroes and a man who I share a birthday with said Imagine what our real neighborhoods would be like if each of us offered as a matter of course just one kind word to another person.

And what we have here is a whole neighborhood who came together to offer more than a kind word to offer a kind deed to a family that's grieving the loss of their daughter, Bailey Quinn and Mallard.

So they asked that we rename Stampede Drive.

Who we have a contract with.

So Salt Lake County's ordinance is very convoluted and it is geared mostly towards the county, but also like makes provisions for the city.

So I've prepared this flow chart here.

If we can get it, oh there we go, full size.

All right.

So the first question that we have to ask in deciding how we determine the name change is do people live on the street?

If people do live on the street, there's a requirement of 75% of the residents who whose houses front the street to sign the petition to get it renamed.

If that that's in the citizens process, there's two processes for a street renaming.

One of them is a city initiated process, one of them is the residence process.

Now, I am really bad at math, but I know that 75% of zero is zero.

So there's not really a way that the residents could petition the county directly to have a street name change when nobody fronts the street.

So it has to be through the council.

Now uh or it has to be through the city, I should say.

Now that the the ordinance says that the city has to make a finding that it's in the public interest to change the name of the street.

Um that's not really something that should be done at a staff level.

That should be something that comes from the legislative body, which is you.

So we come through our flow chart.

Do people live on the street?

No.

Uh the city council can make a finding that renaming is in the public interest.

Interestingly enough, if you don't have 75% of the residents who have signed a petition, but the city council wants to change it anyway, they can change it.

And then it goes to the county for approval for uh for a name approval.

After it goes to the county, it'll ultimately come back to us if we uh resolve the resolution in favor of changing the name now.

Um that gives us enough cover to just go and change the name at staff level as soon as we get it back from the county if it gets approved.

Do you have any questions?

Any questions?

I have one.

Who named it Stampede Drive?

Developer, probably.

Like in my neighborhood, every street is named after some kind of a mining term.

And this is kind of one of those same things.

We have another street in the city that was similarly named after um and it's similarly situated.

There's nobody who fronts it, it's Lexi Sage.

Um so the neighbors realize hey, Lexi Sage is this stampede is just like Lexi Sage was, and so let's get it named after Bailey.

Isn't Lexi Sage Lane near this one too?

It's nearby, yeah.

Yeah.

So it's a great neighborhood, um, doing great things for people in their neighborhood who they love, and um, if you want to make the finding that it's in the public interest, that finding is requisite before we can send it to the county.

All right, sir.

Do you need a specific finding?

Like, do we need to state something specifically on the record or just vote?

Like, do I need to say that you know we find that renaming the street advances the public good by recognizing individual groups or events or historical cultural importance or reflecting a community shared identity or something like that?

You can certainly do that.

Yeah, you can certainly do that if you want, Mr.

Green.

It's in the resolution, so you can adopt it and incorporate it by reference.

Okay, it's actually in the current little language.

We don't have to do that as a finding here.

No, I I put it in the resolution so that if you just adopt the five the findings in the resolution, then you're you've got the cover that you need to send it to the county and follow the ordinance.

Okay, great, thank you.

You bet are there discussion or how about a motion?

Mr.

Mayor, I'd like to make a motion to approve resolution 25-54.

Motion by Miss Lowry to approve resolution 2554.

Is there a second?

Oh, second.

Second by Ms.

Johnson.

Any further discussion on the motion?

I'd just like to say I think it's really commendable how your neighborhood came together.

And even though we didn't need 75 percent, I think you hit that benchmark.

So I I would agree.

I I think I can't think of anything better for that neighborhood to then you have two lanes to remember those two sweet girls.

So I think it's wonderful that you're doing it.

All right, Ms.

Lowry.

How do you vote?

Yes, Ms.

Johnson.

Yes, Ms.

Vaudre.

Yes, Mr.

Lowry, yes, Mr.

Green.

All right.

I'll rule that that passes four to zero.

All right, that takes us.

Mayor, I just want to stand and acknowledge them.

So thank you.

All right, that takes us to our last item.

I when you're when you're just the mayor, you get this puny little gavel.

In power, impressive.

But when you're the past president of the league of cities and towns like I just became this week, this is the award.

So I thought I would be happy to end city council meeting with a gaveling of the big gavel.

So unless there's any other items, is there a motion to adjourn?

So moved.

Second by Mr.

Lower.

Yes.

All in favor?

Aye.

Say aye.

Any opposed?

Aye.

All right.

We are adjourned.