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October 15, 2025 City History Commission Meeting Summary

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0:00

Yeah, I mean it seems really detailed.

0:09

That's what I thought too.

0:10

I I didn't really see any red flags on that section at all.

0:13

Um significance and context.

0:18

Uh did the criterion make sense and was it justified well?

0:22

Did you guys agree with the justification for the significance?

0:25

I believe it was under A significance A for government and religious were the two um overarching categories.

0:35

But I I thought it looked pretty good.

0:37

Okay, everyone agrees that that one's good.

0:40

All right.

0:41

Um facts and sources.

0:43

Did it look like that there were good sources used and dates seem to make sense?

0:51

Yeah, yeah.

0:52

Okay, good.

0:54

And supporting materials.

0:55

Were there adequate photos, maps, and drawings?

0:58

Did anyone see any holes there?

1:02

No, okay.

1:03

Perfect.

1:03

And it looked like there were a couple of comments on the photos themselves, but it looked like comments that Corey had put in.

1:10

So I think that everything is probably okay and good to go there.

1:14

Um so let's see.

1:18

Um, as a commission, do we recommend that this property uh does this have to be a motion?

1:24

Oh no, she left.

1:27

Make a motion.

1:28

Yes, make a motion just in case.

1:30

Okay, um can I get a motion based on all of the okay's we had no concerns with this property?

1:38

Um, that we agree with the nomination form that this property appears to meet the national register standards.

1:47

I saw move.

1:48

Perfect.

1:48

And a second.

1:50

Great.

1:51

I'm going to check that off and I'll get this back to Corey.

1:54

Great.

1:55

Okay.

1:56

Perfect.

1:58

Sorry, I'm just gonna write the name of this.

2:03

Okay.

2:05

Um perfect.

2:07

That is all that I have for national register nominations.

2:10

So uh America 250 update.

2:12

Can we go back to that for just a moment?

2:14

Yeah, absolutely.

2:15

Um, where are we at with the Isaac Stewart?

2:21

Does anyone know what's going on with that one?

2:24

I don't.

2:25

Probably last time we talked about it.

2:27

I know that someone took the binder.

2:29

Is is that the Red House on Seven Metterns each?

2:32

That's not the one that Carolyn lives in, isn't it?

2:34

Yeah, Carol.

2:35

It is.

2:36

Okay.

2:36

So I reached out to Coral again, and I still haven't heard anything.

2:39

Okay.

2:40

So I think that we need to broaden our horizons.

2:43

Maybe she's just too busy and find someone else.

2:46

Um, but oh, and we mean Carl.

2:49

Yeah, I think Coral's just too busy.

2:51

Okay, but Carolyn was interested in it.

2:53

She wanted to do it.

2:54

Um, and then we were waiting on money because we were waiting to see if the CLG grant came through, and then it didn't.

3:01

Um, so I don't know where we're at budget-wise, but I think that it would be worth exploring other.

3:08

So not for this time, but for the next budget.

3:10

Yeah, okay.

3:13

Okay, perfect.

3:15

Did anyone have anything else on National Register nominations before I jump us forward?

3:20

No, okay, perfect.

3:22

Sorry, Nancy.

3:25

All right, now the America 250 update, which is the update on the city council discussion.

3:30

Um, I'm assuming that was probably Marsha that was giving that update, maybe.

3:34

I think it was gonna be Jen.

3:35

Yeah, that was gonna be Jen.

3:36

Um, oh perfect.

3:40

Um we have a couple things in mind.

3:43

Um, we are gonna do a proclamation.

3:44

If we have to do we do a proclamation by the end of the year, and then we're we have to set up a committee.

3:50

And if we do those two things by the end of the year, they will give us $1,500.

3:54

Um, we have some ideas that we kind of ran by the council and the community engagement committee wants to be involved as well at the next meeting.

4:01

Um David Wilkes is planning on um he threw out an idea that he could have 250 kids walking the parade with flags.

4:09

So we thought that would be cute.

4:11

Um there's uh they're suggesting to have an America's potlap day.

4:16

And that's on July 5th.

4:18

So we've reserved every pavilion in the city.

4:24

Yeah, and the day barn and the one at the arena.

4:26

So those are all reserved, so we're um thinking that yeah, the city could provide either drinks or ice cream or something and have each community come do potluck.

4:35

So that would be kind of fun.

4:36

July 5th?

4:37

July 5th.

4:39

And then um some other ideas were um they might do like a walk or by 250 miles, kind of an ongoing you know, thing for the year.

4:48

They talked about planning 250 trees.

4:51

Oh, I like that.

4:53

Um, they talked about coloring contests for kids.

5:00

Um we're trying to um maybe use some of the existing city events, uh-huh, like Memorial Day, better, you know, and kind of take advantage of do some things there.

5:06

So it's early stages, but we want to um start on the committee and the resolution at least um get going before the end of the year and then keep brainstorming.

5:14

Good.

5:15

Fantastic.

5:16

You have this is exceeded our discussion last last month.

5:21

We weren't sure what the council would think.

5:23

The council about it.

5:26

And then we were at a conference downtown last week for the Utah League of Cities and Town.

5:30

Yeah, and Bryn and I went to a class on this.

5:32

Good.

5:33

And they really gave some good ideas.

5:35

Wonderful.

5:36

So yeah, I think we're moving forward.

5:40

That's great to hear.

5:44

All right.

5:45

Um walking tour brochures.

5:47

David, do you have an update?

5:49

Yes, I had my first rejection.

5:51

Oh no, I was there.

5:53

Yeah, she was there.

5:55

So I went to the uh Corner Canyon family bent all.

5:59

And uh that's a very busy office over here off of Ford Street, and uh where my wife goes, the they're always busy and everything, and I asked if we can put something there, and office management uh manager told me no, but the dentist who owns the office was not like things around on the calendar, so we couldn't put it there.

6:21

And I had the I had taken one and we I had a perfect spot where it was go.

6:26

Yeah, plenty of room.

6:29

But they said no.

6:30

I'm actually impressed you've only had one no.

6:33

Yeah.

6:36

We've only had one no this whole entire time.

6:38

Yeah, everybody else has been very receptive.

6:41

I also placed uh one of the display uh newness with uh display containers with uh 60 brochures and about five from the historical society at the um neighbor park uh middle school.

7:00

And they were very receptive there, and now the new containers have arrived, so between now and next meeting I will file really work on it.

7:09

So I have the containers now with with the four slots, which really works out much better, and uh to make some real good progress.

7:18

But I was always sad about rejecting an exact place where it could go and it looked great.

7:25

Yeah, nothing worse than the first rejection.

7:28

I talked to the dentist, but I talked to but the receptor just talked to the office manager and she said absolutely not.

7:37

See that all right.

7:42

Next one, uh I'm gonna attempt to pronounce this.

7:45

I always avoid it.

7:46

Galina soon connie, is that how you say it?

7:48

Yeah, that is how you say it.

7:49

Okay, perfect.

7:50

Good job.

7:51

Thanks.

7:52

So um I know that you liked the video, but we got the video done in time, and they were able to post post for indigenous people's day on Monday.

8:05

Yeah, it's been very good.

8:07

It was really great.

8:08

Did you like it?

8:09

It was exciting.

8:11

Yeah, I heard that.

8:12

And I noticed as I was looking, I was like, oh, people post about this from Draper every year, either for October 13th or in November.

8:20

So that's really nice.

8:22

The next step, and I need to just kind of circle back with Jen, is this should live on the website, like on the same place.

8:31

It will have like a tile like the barn and the other historic properties that are featured there.

8:39

So that just needs to be put together or maybe just published.

8:45

It might already be mostly put together because I know they were working on it before.

8:49

Great.

8:51

Thanks so much for taking that on.

8:53

That that turned out great.

8:55

I was happy.

8:57

Um I really wanted to be able to talk about or to have Shippo talk about the site stewardship program because that's super important and to talk about visiting with respect um the area, and it was so lovely to have James Toledo from the division of Indian Affairs kind of speak to that side of it when the monument was created.

9:23

It was really a kind of a bittersweet victory a little bit, and so it was very lovely to have kind of those two folks come and just invite people to come out and enjoy and learn and move forward.

9:41

Great.

9:42

Well, thank you.

9:44

Um rolling into that, uh, Draper ethnic and minority history research.

9:49

David, anything?

9:50

I don't have anything to report.

9:52

Okay, perfect, and then walk through video of historic homes, Nancy.

10:00

Well, we have all of a sudden I had like a couple people want to do them.

10:02

So then I have to decide which one.

10:04

But Melissa and I went over to the Aurelius Fitzgerald home this last week and toured with the owner and took a look at what she was doing.

10:15

Um wondering if we wanted to do a video now or wait till they do their um restoration on it.

10:21

And um it's kind of torn up now.

10:24

It is like she's taken off the wallpaper and found six layers of it that with paint and everything between it and so she's she sent us pictures of um the realtor's pictures from when they bought the home, and then she's gonna take pictures now when they're doing before they start the restoration and while they're doing it.

10:47

So and then when they're all done, we think it'd be best to do a video tour.

10:52

Cool and then include those pictures in with it.

10:54

Yeah, that would be perfect.

10:56

Yeah, so that's the idea.

10:57

Then I also had the house next to the Draper store at theater reach out to me and say they want to do it in March.

11:03

Awesome.

11:04

So I think that's probably who we will go with for for this year's.

11:09

Perfect.

11:13

Oh, and I talked to Dina because I was asked everyone asked me to do that.

11:20

Yes, we did.

11:21

And she um hold on, let me pull up her message again.

11:26

Um she said, I need to pull it up so I can see what dates.

11:31

She said next week or the week after, if we are interested in that.

11:37

She like got back with me immediately.

11:40

She says any day next week after 2:30.

11:43

Um she volunteers at the Draper Senior Center and and delivers meals on Wales, and I can also do any day after 2.30 the following week as well, or the weekend if that is easier for folks.

11:56

She's super easy, it sounds like so.

11:59

I don't know what you want to do when we'd like to plan that.

12:05

Which we were just the one on pioneer, it's not on any of our lists.

12:10

She came in the one that came in.

12:13

Yeah.

12:14

Yeah.

12:16

So she what are the dates?

12:19

Um, she said any day next week after 2 30, or the following week after 2 30 or weekend.

12:28

Weekends, or we could put it out further than that too.

12:33

Just what depends when everyone would like to do that.

12:39

Would uh weekend or an evening be easier for people?

12:44

No, I don't think so.

12:46

Yeah, yeah.

12:52

I don't know.

12:55

I mean, I wonder if we looked at a Tuesday evening because that's when we are usually here, and just maybe in two weeks.

13:06

Yeah.

13:07

Is that a terrible time?

13:09

Like Wednesday evening.

13:11

Sorry.

13:13

It's like I don't come on Tuesday.

13:17

I just don't email on Tuesday.

13:20

So the 29th, the evening of the couple of years.

13:26

I wouldn't be able to come that day.

13:28

Fourth fifth.

13:30

What about Wednesdays are busy?

13:33

I want a Thursday.

13:35

Thursday evening.

13:36

I can't.

13:37

I can't even.

13:40

We could go into November.

13:42

Yeah.

13:42

Well, what about a Saturday that worked out?

13:44

Yeah.

13:47

Like a Saturday, like at 10 or 11 or something.

13:51

Yeah.

13:52

That would work with her.

13:53

Probably doesn't, you know, it's not in the middle of everyone's day.

13:57

You can still get stuffed on.

13:59

Is there a day that's better?

14:01

Or a couple days we could give her.

14:02

The first or the eighth.

14:04

Yeah.

14:05

I agree with those two days.

14:09

November.

14:09

Yeah.

14:10

Yeah.

14:13

Okay, so just ask her what the first or eighth of November works.

14:16

Yeah, probably late morning.

14:19

Yeah.

14:19

The late morning, either those two dates.

14:21

Yeah, that sounds good to me too.

14:24

At what time?

14:25

I'm sorry.

14:26

Late morning.

14:27

Late morning.

14:28

10, 11, 12.

14:34

We just like to sit the thing.

14:38

Okay.

14:39

Okay.

14:40

I will ask her and then get back with.

14:43

Well, we'll just have to send it out in an email because that's going to be before our next meeting.

14:48

Perfect.

14:50

Thanks, Nancy.

14:51

Okay.

14:53

All right.

14:54

I feel like we ploughed through that agenda very quickly.

14:58

That's great.

15:02

Um so action items for next meeting.

15:07

I'm this is how I like to do it.

15:10

I'm gonna go around and everybody's going to tell me what they are going to do.

15:14

So Annie.

15:15

Um I'm going to figure out with Howard when inventory will work at the museum.

15:21

And I'll submit the the chapel by the wayside form back to um SHIPO.

15:31

I didn't have it on my desk.

15:34

Okay.

15:35

It printed funky.

15:39

Yeah.

15:39

I think that's it for me.

15:40

Okay.

15:40

Grin, do you have anything?

15:42

Um yeah, I we have pictures from properties that had historic value.

15:49

That that was our process.

15:52

I don't know where we haven't made a decision as to where to store those photos after we get them.

15:59

I just have them in emails, emails, emails.

16:01

Which ones are these up?

16:04

For the demolition property.

16:06

Oh, okay.

16:06

I was thinking maybe Jen would be able to direct us.

16:10

Yeah.

16:10

Okay.

16:11

Yeah.

16:11

If you want to, send them to me for now.

16:14

And I'll start a file.

16:15

Okay.

16:15

And I'll get it all organized.

16:17

Send me the demolition paperwork, all of the photos.

16:20

I'll give everything files, and then I'll talk to Jenna and figure out what she wants us to do with it.

16:26

Because my email's also given very close.

16:28

Okay.

16:29

We'll send it to you.

16:30

Okay, that'll be good.

16:31

Yeah.

16:31

Okay.

16:32

Is that all for you?

16:34

Okay.

16:35

Krista, do you have I don't believe I have anything?

16:38

Okay.

16:38

I don't have anything.

16:39

Okay.

16:41

Well, I'll report on the brochures and the ethnic.

16:45

I'll have something about the ethically next time.

16:47

Perfect.

16:48

Okay.

16:50

I'm gonna follow up on getting the web page live for Galina Sudankani.

16:59

I would like to propose a couple of agenda items once we for next month once we get through action items.

17:09

Is that gonna be to her?

17:11

I just don't want to forget.

17:13

Okay.

17:14

Okay, was yours just the web page?

17:16

Okay.

17:19

Angie?

17:20

Uh check in with Lynn for Historic Society.

17:24

Do we have somebody for next month?

17:25

Or this month?

17:27

That's a good question.

17:28

Can we do it?

17:29

I can do I can do it.

17:31

I'll look.

17:31

I'm going to tie like lots of ribbons around my paper.

17:36

Okay.

17:39

And um I'm reaching out to um Dina about the tour.

17:47

Yep.

17:50

I think that's it, right?

17:52

I think so.

17:52

That's all I have in my notes.

17:55

Good.

17:55

Um before we adjourn, do you want to do the proposed agenda items?

17:59

And I'll make sure that Jen gets them.

18:01

Do I need to do them before we adjourn?

18:03

I don't know.

18:04

I don't know either.

18:05

I don't know.

18:06

I think yes.

18:06

I think I should be part of the process.

18:09

Okay.

18:10

So last month when we talked about America 250, we were planning to wait and hope that the commission got excited.

18:18

I'm sorry, yes.

18:20

The council got excited.

18:22

And then we were going to come back to it and think about if there's any logical role for this commission to play that would be a little bit historic in nature.

18:35

So I think we can talk about that next month.

18:38

Absolutely.

18:38

And we'll have a better sense of the group that you're gathering together to work on that.

18:42

Yeah.

18:43

And I think we're they're totally open to suggestions at the time.

18:46

And we didn't come up with any.

18:48

And the committee doesn't need to be constrained to like 11 members like some of these.

18:52

So we can just open up to this.

18:55

Yeah.

18:55

Okay, so let's just keep that on the agenda so that we don't let it drop.

18:59

Absolutely.

19:00

Um then go ahead, Christopher.

19:03

I was just gonna say we should make sure that some people from this volunteer for that.

19:08

Yeah.

19:08

So that we make sure to have yes, yes.

19:12

Yeah.

19:13

Agree agree.

19:15

Um I would also this is gonna be on Vicious for June.

19:21

But I have a couple of ideas about Juneteenth.

19:29

That we might want to talk about next month.

19:32

And then I wonder too if we wanted to talk about perhaps a next step on Native American recognition.

19:43

Yes, we're gonna get that web page going and then we're just gonna keep going.

19:48

Yeah.

19:48

Perfect.

19:49

So keep these seat on the agenda so that we can hopefully get some traction.

19:54

Perfect.

19:56

I think that's great.

19:57

I just should I just heard back from Dina and she said the 8th.

20:01

November eighth.

20:03

Did she say that's what date you can't go?

20:08

Okay, it's okay.

20:09

I can't go that date either, but I guess we're gonna go to the next one.

20:12

Should we tell come up with another day?

20:14

No, I I didn't say anything because I didn't want my I have like this much free time in the worry about it.

20:23

I just asked her what time.

20:27

So November eighth for everyone else.

20:29

Yep.

20:30

Okay.

20:33

Okay.

20:34

Great.

20:36

All right.

20:37

Uh can I get a motion to adjourn the meeting?

20:40

So moved.

20:41

Perfect.

20:41

We are adjourned.

20:42

Yay.

20:44

Fast I know, right?

20:47

Yes.

20:48

Wendy, you're the one that said that right.

20:49

I am glad you brought it up for me to put on

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Summary of Proceedings

October 15, 2025 City History Commission Meeting Summary

The History Commission convened on October 15, 2025, to address National Register nominations, provide updates on the America 250 celebration, and review progress on various historic projects including walking tours, Indigenous history, and future video documentation. The meeting concluded with the scheduling of a senior center tour and the setting of agenda items for the next session.

Consent Calendar

  • National Register Nomination: The commission unanimously moved and seconded a recommendation that the reviewed property meets National Register standards, with no concerns raised regarding the nomination form, significance criteria (Government and Religious categories), sources, dates, or supporting materials (photos, maps, drawings).

Public Comments & Testimony

  • No public comments or external testimony were recorded during this session.

Discussion Items

America 250 Update

  • The commission discussed the City Council's upcoming 250th-anniversary celebrations. The commission aims to submit a resolution and establish a committee by the end of the year to secure $1,500 in funding.
  • Proposed Events: Members discussed ideas such as having 250 children march in a parade, a "Great American Potluck Day" on July 5th (at which city reserves all pavilions and the barn), a 250-mile walk, planting 250 trees, and coloring contests.
  • Coordination: The commission plans to integrate these events with existing city celebrations like Memorial Day and intends to ensure commission members volunteer for the planning committee.

Walking Tour Brochures (David)

  • Rejections and Success: David reported one rejection at a dental office on Corner Canyon due to office management policies, though the dentist was receptive. Conversely, the commission successfully placed brochure containers at the Neighbor Park Middle School, which are now fully stocked and organized.
  • Next Steps: David will continue to place brochures and notes that while the first rejection was disappointing, the overall reception has been very positive.

Galina Sudankani Indigenous Video

  • The commission confirmed the completion and successful posting of a video for Indigenous People's Day (October 13th/November), featuring James Toledo from the Division of Indian Affairs.
  • Future Action: The commission will ensure the video is permanently hosted on the official website with a featured tile, similar to other historic properties.

Historic Home Video Tours (Nancy)

  • Aurelius Fitzgerald Home: A decision was made to delay video production until the restoration is complete, as the owner is currently stripping layers of original wallpaper and paint. Photographs from the demolition/revelation phase will be documented for future inclusion.
  • Theater Reach Property: The property adjacent to the Draper Store has agreed to a video tour in March.
  • Draper Senior Center: Dina volunteered for a tour next week or the week after, with availability after 2:30 PM. The commission tentatively selected November 8th in the late morning (10:00 AM–12:00 PM) for the tour, pending final confirmation via email.

Other Reports

  • Ethnic and Minority History Research: No updates were provided by David.
  • Photo Archiving: The commission discussed organizing photos from demolished properties; members agreed to forward files to Jen for centralized storage.
  • Museum Inventory: Annie reported she will coordinate with Howard regarding the museum inventory schedule and submit the Chapel-by-the-Wayform to SHPO.

Key Outcomes

  • Motion Passed: Unanimous approval to recommend the property for the National Register of Historic Places.
  • Action Items Assigned:
    • Jen: To organize files for demolished properties and set up the web page for the Galina Sudankani video.
    • Annie: To coordinate museum inventory and submit SHPO forms.
    • David: To update on ethnic history reports at the next meeting.
    • Nancy: To confirm the November 8th tour date with Dina.
    • Angie: To confirm Historic Society availability and follow up on the Dina tour.
    • All Members: To prepare discussion points for the next month regarding the America 250 committee role and potential Juneteenth celebrations.
  • Meeting Adjourned: The meeting concluded following confirmation of the November 8th tour date and a motion to adjourn.

Meeting Transcript

Yeah, I mean it seems really detailed. That's what I thought too. I I didn't really see any red flags on that section at all. Um significance and context. Uh did the criterion make sense and was it justified well? Did you guys agree with the justification for the significance? I believe it was under A significance A for government and religious were the two um overarching categories. But I I thought it looked pretty good. Okay, everyone agrees that that one's good. All right. Um facts and sources. Did it look like that there were good sources used and dates seem to make sense? Yeah, yeah. Okay, good. And supporting materials. Were there adequate photos, maps, and drawings? Did anyone see any holes there? No, okay. Perfect. And it looked like there were a couple of comments on the photos themselves, but it looked like comments that Corey had put in. So I think that everything is probably okay and good to go there. Um so let's see. Um, as a commission, do we recommend that this property uh does this have to be a motion? Oh no, she left. Make a motion. Yes, make a motion just in case. Okay, um can I get a motion based on all of the okay's we had no concerns with this property? Um, that we agree with the nomination form that this property appears to meet the national register standards. I saw move. Perfect. And a second. Great. I'm going to check that off and I'll get this back to Corey. Great. Okay. Perfect. Sorry, I'm just gonna write the name of this. Okay. Um perfect. That is all that I have for national register nominations. So uh America 250 update. Can we go back to that for just a moment? Yeah, absolutely. Um, where are we at with the Isaac Stewart? Does anyone know what's going on with that one? I don't. Probably last time we talked about it. I know that someone took the binder. Is is that the Red House on Seven Metterns each? That's not the one that Carolyn lives in, isn't it?

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