Like not cooperating at all.

They gave me two pieces of mayor.

This might have to be like an eve later thing.

Because we're normally not in praise pressing anyone lady like Anna.

I do have a skirt on.

I do sell it on You are pro-turned.

I am here for that's true.

Yeah.

Sorry, I have to go.

Thank you for dressing.

We would have taken you in any march.

It's been a day.

I think it has been kind of a gone for two weeks, so it's a little bit of a struggle bus.

Although Lucas drive now.

He can only drive back.

Yeah.

He's not actually super helpful because he has basketball every day at Christmas.

Well, I would have given in had Lucas not gotten two tickets.

His first driving.

He gets another ticket now.

I don't think he's his life.

Yeah.

Until the sixteen period.

So we got another.

Yeah, he was like, I think it's over now.

And I was like, oh friends, it is not over.

Yeah.

Yeah.

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What time is it?

5 32.

Um I can just have that way.

So don't sit down here.

Dude, I was almost gonna take over your own.

She was supposed to give you circular.

I'm I go ahead.

I am pro-town, so I was ready to step in.

Well, welcome everyone.

Um sorry I'm a few minutes late.

I have to do my other job.

This uh study session of order um Salt Lake County Convention and Tourism Assessment Area.

And uh you guys who's up that's that is us over here.

Uh I'm Tyson Libert.

I'm the Chief Sales Officer that visited Salt Lake.

We have Bart Blazedale, who's the chief financial officer.

Clay Partaine is the executive director and chief uh uh sports officer and visit Sut Lake, and then we have a couple of our hotel years, the local hotel years.

Mary Birch, who runs the Hyatt House in Sandy, and Chris King.

And uh we come to to give an update on the convention tourism assessment area.

Uh we appreciated your support as we went through that process.

We don't come up for another vote for another couple of years, but we did we did want to make sure that you guys were kept in the loop as to what was going on and and to make sure that you feel comfortable with how things are going.

So just a quick overview.

The visitor economy hospitality economy is five point eight billion dollar industry in the county.

It supports 47,000 jobs and offsets taxes for household relief by 1700 per household.

So it's it's an important sector.

Uh the the South Valley is growing uh in our hospitality um revenues and how important it is to to us here in the South Valley.

Twenty-two percent of all spending in Draper does come from outside the area on all things like food and beverage and entertainment and retail things.

Um we have seven hotels in Draper, about close to seven hundred rooms.

Uh more rooms uh on the horizon, potentially as you probably have heard with the with the point of the mountain project.

So we we expect that to grow and we're excited for for what's coming.

Um we wanted to give you just an overview.

Remember for those who work here, the convention tourism assessment area was an assessment that was placed upon hoteliers, a two percent assessment on hotel room revenue that was collected and is spent by the hotels for the hotels to increase hotel room revenue.

And so Mary and Chris are on the committee.

They're the voting members on the committee, so they're the ones that get to decide how the money is spent.

We'll talk about how some of those things were spent this past couple years.

Just the quick overview the the convention tourism assessment area is broken out into three areas.

We have a uh a district downtown, a West Valley district, and then a South Valley district.

As you can see on our voting members, we have Jennifer George, Mary, and Chris who are with us.

We do have some ex officio members, including Fred and Tasha was with us for for a long time.

Um and and Jay and Mary Zotansky also sit on that committee.

And they're the ones that that consider the different ways that the money could be spent.

Um this is an overview for the the CTA in general.

So this year, the budget is 8.3 million dollars that was collected or will be collected, and it's broken down into different buckets, including a district-wide development, which is more of a marketing campaigns and getting the word out about Salt Lake and our user economy.

We also have dedicated community sales development buckets, which are the things that the South Valley gets to control of their funds there and how it's spent, and a couple of other buckets are so 8.3 million.

Uh, we do we you know, we did a lot of campaigns.

One of the things that we we did this year was the um or this past year was the nutcracker initiative.

You guys hosted one here right in front of City Hall was great.

Uh definitely engaged people, and we saw a lot of uptick that way.

Uh and we have employed intend to do another winter uh promotion campaign as well.

Um a couple of things just to show you, and Clay will talk a little bit about some of the specific events, but the funds that were spent this past year, we were able to bring in 22 events for the South District.

That included uh that would bring in 243,000 attendees, 169,000 room nights, and have an 107 million dollar economic impact for those events.

So, really successful um places, and and one of the reasons why the South District works really well is we have the assets wherein the hotel community can cooperate to bring events to the Mountain America Expo Center or to the Real Stadium.

There's going to be more assets brought in to the South District that will be able to continue to bring different things.

So, for example, the aquariums adding meeting space that will allow us to bring in new new opportunities to the South Valley.

So we're excited about the future for the South District.

Uh, how that translates to actual hotel revenue is this is a lot of numbers, and I think that the most important thing for you to note is uh you can see that most of the destinations we track are losing revenue, hotel revenue.

This so far this year, it in addition to last year having great revenue growth.

We're still continuing to grow this year.

The South Valley's up 1.3% in its revenue.

Rev Park stands for revenue per available room if that helped show.

Um, and so you're seeing good growth outside of Salt Lake.

The California hotels are seeing growth this year, but outside of those places, you're not seeing any growth anywhere else.

So everybody else is losing.

Um we're excited with the it's a success story for us in the revenues we're seeing here.

Um we've we've used the campaign studies uh the uh funds to run leisure campaigns.

This is uh a campaign, an example of a campaign we ran um on Expedia.

It generated 740,000 dollars worth of hotel revenue, close to 5,000 room nights, uh great impressions and grid exposure to Salt Lake County, and we're excited about that one.

And Clay, if you want to talk a little bit about some of your specific events here, yeah, yeah.

We we do chase a lot of uh regional, national, even international level sporting events and and particular events that have uh uh high frequency of bringing in visitations.

So um youth and amateur are often what we target.

So youth events, you know, you always have mom, dad, brother, sister.

I mean, no many many of you here probably have a youth that plays some sports, and you probably had to travel for that.

Um so they we it's it really enables us to bring in a lot of people, and we we use the Mountain America X Expo Center a lot for these these types of things.

Um, and this is one good example, the development program national championships.

This is a gymnastics event.

Um created over 6,500 room nights during the period they were here through May 6th through 11th.

Um, we saw really great increases in occupancy and rates during that period.

Um 7.1 uh total economic impact.

This was a real boon.

It all the local shops, the um South Town Mall got business out of this.

Um we did the opening or reception or a celebration over at um America First Field, uh, just right across the Mountain America Expo.

So great example.

And then here's just a couple more uh Triple Crown volleyball.

They we have them on an annual sort of rotation.

Then we had the National Horseshoe Pictures Association.

Um that was a really cool one.

Um kind of a longer one.

It went for two full weeks down at Mount America Expo.

So these again examples of things that we we try to target and we were yes, and next time, Mayor, you're you're gonna be the person who are not the first to push the order.

Yeah, we're gonna have to be we'll have to figure it out, whatever it is.

Well, another thing maybe to note with the with all the stuff that's happening downtown um with the convention center and the entertainment district.

Um it is making some changes and actually gonna push things to the South Valley.

We you know, Clay, we host a large USA volleyball event downtown each year.

It's it's huge.

Uh because of construction, they're going to split their show and bring half of it to the Mountain America Center, which will be great for the area.

So we'll see more of those sorts of things.

Over a thousand teams over two week periods quiet events.

Yeah, you're gonna see you're gonna see peaceful.

The whistle's just a constant, you go in there, it's just a constant whistle with 40 plus courts going on.

Yeah, yeah.

And we we brought Mary and Chris because we just wanted you to know these are the folks that are actually doing it here in the South Valley.

If you guys want to say anything, you can, but uh, I don't know if they want to.

Um I'll just say, you know, we vote on all of St.

Draper, the whole district will take into consideration everything that looking at these events.

Um they survived us sport cards so we can see um how something is rated on a scale of one to ten um as far as you know the piece of business, so we put a lot of thought into it and actually bring forward area, and we definitely think so.

So we just want to thank you for your support.

We really appreciate that.

Um, it's been fun to be able to help throw some money at some of these events that wouldn't normally be able to come because of those extra costs or things, and you can see in the numbers what an impact that's done for our area.

Um, and it's been wonderful for us in the hotels to keep those numbers up because as you saw here by city, as we look at by hotels and by our market, we're also seeing those same impacts where the CTAA hotels are outperforming the other hotels in the same market and area.

Um so it's been it's been huge.

It's been awesome, and we're hoping to gain traction with some other cities that didn't sign on to begin with because it really has been a huge success.

Thank you.

Any questions from from the council or anybody here?

How do you know where they go after they've been at their event?

Are you using cell tracking?

Uh in terms of where they spend.

Yeah.

So we do work with Zardica, which is a local company that does track that they do anonymized cell phone tracking and also spend data through credit card spend.

Um, however, in terms of economic impact, that that's a calculation done by tourism economics.

Um we collect zip codes, so we know where they're all coming from.

Um we collect a bunch of data points and we put that into a tourism calculator that Tyson can find.

I was in San Diego last weekend, and my waiter at one of the restaurants we went to had come here last winter to use your ski package.

Yeah.

And he loved it.

He was so happy to stay in the hotel.

He got the bus right up to the slopes.

He said it was awesome when you told all of his friends.

So it is working.

Yeah, yeah.

Perfect, perfect example.

Yeah.

Great.

And that's part of what is the exposure that we've been able to get with some of the marketing money that we have in that bucket.

The exposure that we have outside of our area to bring people in has just I mean, you see the numbers, it's been great.

Yeah.

So we obviously joined to support our Draper hotels.

What are you doing to ensure that these people are staying at our hotel?

So we have a number of the sporting events are what's called the state-of-play model, so they have to stay in the in the lodging facilities as outlined by the tournament organizers.

So we work with the organizers to make sure we're featuring the correct hotels.

There's some of it, uh, some of these events we've chased that are big enough where we've approached more than one district.

Um, so we we just have to be careful and make sure we're advertising the credit hotels.

So legislatively speaking, um, there are two guardrails to this.

The the money spent has to generate hotel room revenue, and it has to have equitable benefits.

So those are the two guardrails for us that we try and measure through every opportunity we have.

And it's not always easy because you know there are things that are a little bit different, but but that's what we we strive for.

So and that's why they have the three hotel years on there, um, Jennifer included, because we represent not our own properties, um, not only our own properties, but you know, 68 other properties around the the valley.

Right.

Um, so that we can make sure that those monies are being spent where we're putting the money in.

I want to make sure I'm getting that back for my hotel.

Uh I don't want that going to South Jordan who didn't participate.

Right.

Right.

I didn't say that.

Yeah, that's uh hot topic.

Yeah.

Thank you again.

Yeah, thank you.

Yeah, yeah.

Thanks.

All right, next.

Next we have Mr.

Markle, where are you, sir?

Come up and tell us all about the TRSSD lighting.

Do you have one?

No.

No.

So the TRSSD board made a formal request that Draper City Public Works take over the maintenance, repairs, replacement of all the street lights in the district.

That's roughly 160 street lights if you currently maintain repair and deal with uh about 14 to 1500 street lights, so it would be a 10% increase.

Um I'm not sure what the revenue source or funding would look like for that, but before we pursued looking into that, we just wanted to see if it was something that the council is willing to entertain.

Are they offering any way to help in paying for the maintenance of those?

Um I think right now street lighting is included in their special service tax, but shouldn't we get some of that then?

So know what that is, um, what that amount is, whether it would be enough, and also just so you guys know with the plowing, like tracking all of that information and then requesting reimbursement isn't the simplest way to do things.

It'd be easier if there was just so we owned them and went forward with it.

Question would be if they pay for the the cost of the maintenance with willing to do it.

Um as a city.

So my concern with this has always been that they have different lights, right?

And their lights are considerably more expensive and more difficult to maintain.

How are we going to manage that?

Are we going to take on a whole different brand of light?

Are we gonna grab switch them over to Draper City lights?

No, it would be to maintain what they have and replace in kinds of what they have when they fail.

They do have some parts that they're requesting we store, which we talked about two weeks ago.

We don't have any room for that.

We just for our own light.

Right, we don't because our standard light is easy to get.

So we have custom make standards.

By the way, I'll add.

We change them all LED.

Yeah, they're fantastic.

I don't know if we need my porch light anymore.

My thought process is if we take it, we may need to just follow our standard lighting.

And then we need to continue to pay for it.

So there'd be there's a we calculated all that.

I can't remember what it is, it's from year ago discussion, but there would have to be some sort of way that we would gather revenue to replace those either all at once or over time or as they broke with the standard light.

Are they amenable to switching to standard lights?

In the past they haven't been.

I think if there's some new board members and stuff, so maybe your stipulation to talk further would be they'd have to switch to our standard light.

Well how we gotta talk about it.

See how we can stop two different kinds of lights, one that are twice the cost, and maybe we won't be able to source.

I think we can maintain the thing.

Wouldn't that make sense though to replace them at I mean as they as they go replace them there?

It would look awkward.

So we'll get a complaint, uh we read it, we contact the board, we say, hey, this is actually yours to fix, and then they don't that's not their world, they don't know how to do that, so then it doesn't happen.

So then more residents think we're just not doing anything.

So there's this like frustration with the city, and we don't have anything to do with it.

So are three of you at least want to talk further about a way if they could they cover the cost, we'd end up switching back to our own light system.

Is that my how about staffing-wise, taking this on 10% increase in your load?

If it's the same percentage of so they went through and re-fixed a lot of them now, they they didn't fix them perfect, a lot of them started falling apart, but in the last couple years that only happened, hasn't happened recently.

It was right off the bat they had four or five that the the head fell.

Well, I think if you say you're gonna take it over, you have to have a plan where they're gonna pay for the switch over and just start making the switch.

Either that or there would have to be some sort of revenue that we go, okay.

We've got enough money that we can store these parts and we'll replace them as a lot of things.

The district can raise it if they want us to take it over, I guess.

Is that what you guys?

I just don't think we can get into the business where we're doing different lighting systems for every neighborhood.

I see a lot of problems with that down the road.

We've been fighting this light thing for a long time.

So are all of you willing to keep talking on those terms?

We replace city lights, they cover the cost of the maintenance and repair, including staff time all of it.

It is a safety issue.

I mean, there's lights out there that have been out for over a year that are in major intersections.

One that's a finger point thing because their contractor will say no, it's an underground, and that's our responsibility.

So then we pay for an underground contractor to come and look at it.

So we have an electrician come and they go no, it's the fuse, and then it goes back and forth and it doesn't get resolved, and we spend money without getting reimbursed for it and at midtime.

Our lights are certainly not from for safety.

Yeah.

Alright, looks like the majority of you want to hear that.

All of you I think it's always going to be a problem until we take it over.

I agree.

I don't know.

But it's just a question.

And that's all.

Okay, our next item is discussion for our general plan water use and preservation uh element.

Provide to you.

Thanks.

And so that's what those are working on.

Why it's fine.

And just so we're clear, government overreach only includes when the federal government is overreaching on the state.

Yeah.

That definition does not include the state overreaching on the cities.

So not a thing.

Sorry, I misspoke.

I want to clarify the definition.

So 2022, the state passed one 10, requires us to adopt a water use and preservation element by the end of the year.

We did do some other work on adopting the water wise uh landscape ordinance ahead of time, so we were actually working on sort of the implementation before the element.

So we've been working on the draft element.

We have five goals and 15 implementation measures that we just wanted to run past you before we bring it for adoption just to see if there's any concerns or questions that we can clarify for comes.

And then we're looking at planning commission on November 13th and City Council on December 2nd for adoption.

So I'm just gonna paraphrase these if that's okay just to keep going through this.

So goal one is to uh strengthen our water conservation efforts through our own city leadership.

And the implement first implementation measure is to explore forming a water uh conservation team that works along with our existing water conservation coordinator.

And that could also include working with water crew on their efforts as well to uh uh address existing future uh water conservation.

And the second is to uh look at having a water conservation intern to work on you know additional water conservation items that that they can come up with and working with that water conservation coordinator.

So goal two is uh developing citywide policies that enhance uh water conservation for existing developments.

Um so implementation one is looking at implementing a time of day watering restriction.

Uh so that would restrict outdoor watering between the hours of 10 a.m.

and 6 p.m.

for both residential and non-residential properties.

And then implementation number two is developing water shortage.

So this would be a plan uh that would go into effect uh to protect the public during periods of drought, temporary uh water shortage or supply interruptions.

And I think these are two that would come back to the city council to have would have more details uh with uh for uh you know no and ultimate decision.

Goal three is to increase public awareness through education, so first and all goal three uh our consultant has indicated that we may be able to uh seek some grant funding from Jordan Valley Water Conservancy District for these holding uh workshops uh with residents on water conserving skills, and they point out that it's uh some existing uh programs such as fixably you can fix your sprinklers.

The second is providing uh free water conserving tools and public events.

Uh third implementation measure is developing a beautiful yard program where we can uh annually award yards or recognize uh yards that have that are water wise.

Um encouraging uh the community through that.

And the fourth is uh working with uh Jordan Valley to uh reach out to business groups and hold workshops on water conservation rate rebates and incentives.

The fourth goal is to increase public awareness through sort of our digital tools and our online presence.

So the first implementation measure is to look at our existing web pages and consolidating uh sort of the messages into one water conservation web page, and then the second is to advertise uh commercial rebate programs and then uh on that web page.

And the third goal implementation measure, sorry, is to sort of have calendar throughout the year where we can uh work on messaging um water conservation messages throughout the year, and the fourth is to promote the I on water app, which allows real-time tracking and water use so people can uh discover if they have some major water leaks or anything happening that's beyond what they expect.

And then the fifth goal is to lead by example instead of us, the city looking at any of our park strips, our parks and civic buildings and our sprinkler systems to reduce turf and uh bring in more efficient uh irrigation systems.

Those are all the goals and implementation measures, and anybody has any questions or concerns?

I have a question.

Um the truth committee currently hosts the um local skates program through treaty, sorry.

Would any of the um implementation be things that you would want them to potentially help out with?

I think those resident workshops maybe something because it's happening, but then we could work on including that in the measure.

We also have our landscape inspector that can also assist in that too.

Well, has it the tree commission coordinated those local skate classes and things?

Yeah, they've they've been they've been doing that, so you know it kind of putting their together and have them participating in some of these.

So, Todd, yeah, as I watch you lay this out.

I went to water school, I think a year or two ago.

So they they invite elected officials, and so if you get an invite, you should go do it.

Um water school is very interesting because it's primarily talked about the resources of the Central Utah project, and then they they brought in um a guy from the Las Vegas Clark County Metropolitan Water Service.

They they they used to have separate water districts in Clark County and then counties around it, and then Nevada consolidated it all.

And this was this what you're talking here, is exactly what Nevada did, and then Nevada put it in place with water police.

So this looks to me like we're going down that same that road, but trying to start on the voluntary side.

In Nevada, if you develop a leak in Clark County, they come to you and they find the leak and they help you fix it.

And then if you don't fix it, it's a very steep fine, like 1,500 bucks the next time and up.

They changed all the all any new casino has to use mechanical cooling, not evaporative cooling.

It's a whole bunch of things, but this guy was just kind of telling us if you don't do it voluntarily, you'll get forced to do it because the resources go on.

But this this to me looks like that the plan they went down, at least to try and the goal is to conserve water, so just you know, we should get on board and try and do it happily and nicely.

But I as I sat in that presentation I'll thought, huh?

They'll come a day.

I think we tried to get you know the softer things working for us.

I'd say the watering restriction between two and four is probably the hardest of all of them.

Um but you know, that's time to do that.

I appreciate it.

I think it's on course with what needs to be done in an air climate like we have to preserve as much water as we can.

So but it's definitely right down that out.

I've got a good question.

So were were the um goals and implementation strategies, were those statutory or legitimately came up with the staff?

These are things that our consultant has come up with based on their experience, sort of what's in our existing water conservation plan that the our water utilities have to do over five years, yeah.

And just reaching out discussing with staff and with the water providers.

It also based a little bit on what the statutes are and what has gotten passed the state with some of the other cities that they've helped.

Yeah, they even said Nevada they had when they implemented the no turf and some of the hard restrictions, people started building moats around their houses like swimming pools around their homes, and then they restricted the square footage of swimming pools to 600 square feet.

So you can't do that anymore.

Replacing their grass with water and pools, and of course it evaporates and they you know it's pretty interesting.

And Nevada's wetter than we are, so that's something to think about.

Thanks, Todd.

Any questions more about that?

That's hard to do.

Okay, that takes us to a discussion.

I'm assuming that's why there's so many of you here in the I didn't think you were all bored wanted to come to a fun council meeting.

So just let me tell you in this meeting, it's a study session, so we're gonna we're not making any decisions.

We're just here to talk about it so the council can all be in a room.

You're certainly willing to listen and and uh if you want to if we if we want to engage you, we can, but primarily it's an opportunity for the council to hear everything and kind of batter it around so you can kind of hear how they're thinking.

So that's our process.

Um that who's leading out, Todd or Ted?

Oh, that's gonna be both of us.

That's Todd and Todd.

Um yeah, so as you just requested, we uh descended a William Traper, I might add.

We uh we're looking at this 800 East, 122nd uh South Neighborhood area.

It's just an aerial map.

Um when we looked at it as staff, we were talking kind of about that triangular area down seventh east, down 123rd, up along the tracks uh line, but then we realized we also have this other little piece of the north uh that is only access through there, so we decided that that probably needed to be included as we kind of studied this.

Um feel free to chime in.

Uh this is just uh a little bit of the open space and trails component.

Uh obviously have the trails along the tracks line, and then we have the marathon wetlands just north of here.

Uh really don't have any connections into that right now, uh, but that could be something we could look at maybe separately.

Then we have the existing land use map.

Uh and I think this is kind of where most of our discussion that we're looking at looking for some feedback on.

Um as you can see, kind of through the mid block here, is where that kind of uh commercial uh land use designation uh stops as we come from seventh east, and then of course we have most all of this.

Well, all of this is commercially designated somewhere either between the neighborhood commercial or town center.

Uh this is a little bit of an odd piece of town center little finger.

We know we've got some properties up in here that may be uh appropriate for that.

I know this is uh a little bit different with uh higher density there.

Uh so mostly we've kind of looked at this as maybe there's some opportunity.

Can I ask a question, John on that?

Um being these are descended William Draper.

I expect you to understand the history of this.

We've been told if you go there off 800 east, right there in the middle, those town homes and stuff.

Yes, how did that get zoned high residential high density?

Do we know or how long?

So those aren't that how old are those?

Maybe 10 years old, 15 years old.

Before I got here.

So I don't know, but uh I know it would have had to come through.

This is the land use component of the residential high density, but it also falls with the zoning change at the same time.

So they came in, uh, were approved for the zone change, then probably for the project right after or does anyone remember when that was built?

I know it is.

I don't have it.

Neighbors might, but so what we were really looking at is kind of the other thing here is you'll notice this is already residential medium density land use all in here.

Uh and that's kind of where a couple of things kind of change a little bit.

So Todd, what yes?

Go ahead.

What what what's the what's the density?

Oh, you're here to on that chart right there.

Uh this chart right here.

Okay.

Yeah, that residential medium density is two to four volume units per acre.

Joe, anything else you wanted to add on that one, probably just that it's consistent with the RA2, the R3, and the R4.

That's right.

Can you remind me of the difference between neighborhood commercial and community commercial?

One we don't do so much anymore.

Um very similar.

In fact, in a lot of places we have uh areas where like just on the other side of the seventh there where they're together.

Um I know Jeffy Lou couldn't go into neighborhood commercial because we don't allow vehicles.

Yeah, neighborhood commercials may be a little lower intensity, community commercials a little higher, but they're very, very similar.

So the use table's got some differences on that.

Yeah, some differences in the use tables, but I think that was to kind of maybe restrict some of the more intense or more problematic uses.

Um the other thing we have, of course, is that residential high density, eight to twelve.

That was that little project of townhomes in there.

There is residential medium high density between these two, which would be your range between four and eight units.

And our high density outside of the station area plan is 12 units an acre.

Yep.

Yep, up to 12.

Because every time I see that, I'm like, that's not high density.

Now that comes from my time at the lead dealing with all this density that the housing crisis is brought up to that's our max is 12 units an acre outside of stationary plants, right?

Mostly that RM1, RM2, those are multifamily zones.

So if we're rezoning to this, typically we're looking multifamily it does allow for single family on smaller lots in those RM zones.

We don't have small uh as small as 4,000 square feet I think of RM2.

Yeah 4,000.

So the RM1 and 2 allow for 4,000 square foot.

I think it's a thousand for town homes.

Yeah if you're doing a town home it's a thousand but if they're single family detached it's yeah it's 4,000 for the RM2 and 6,000 for the RM1.

So 6,000 square foot lot could be done with a single family detached home.

We don't see projects on that usually if they have that zoning they want the town homes at the thousand square foot communal there is some push from our legislative overlords to increase density.

Well to increase single family detached living in an affordable concept that's that's a current that we're getting and we have seen a few projects come in conceptually to planning with some things like that but they are often asking for density this high or higher so have you had some come in at a 4,000 square foot lot we had one recently come in looking to do 3,000 square feet on a lot.

Three D tap single family really tiny so we kind of told that is a product that the govern the state government wants.

Probably that'd be like the what they have downtown Salt Lake City those little trailer houses that hardly that but yeah home on 3000 square foot lot.

That would be interesting yeah I'm just telling you what I got told by the governor and I was getting told by the governor so when we talk about this missing was a telling let me be clear this is pounding on said tail so I think Troy I was good I didn't say any sort of words or anything I was quiet.

You're referring to the cottage stack home yes yes okay and what is the square footage typically on those there's a there's a range there really is.

So do you know that project up in uh Davis uh Weaver County candlelight homes no it's not candle homes um Nielsen homes are you familiar with that one it's gonna go in it was going to go into uh Cooper or uh upper I'm not from here not here well mayor fit and far west yeah they had a project in these cottage homes I don't know here I can't remember I kind of remember yeah but I just don't remember any I think it was going to go in one city and the council lost their mind over it and then it went to the other city.

But I drove through it the other day when I was up there with business.

And it was it was the cottage homes what they're trying to what they talked about it was that's what it was.

Yeah and and yeah there's kind of a range uh for those I mean you could go up to like even an 8,000 square foot lot and still kind of do a cottage style development but it could be 3,000 to be 2,000.

Which would be how many per acre in my calculator?

Well half acre is 2000 square feet well you've got 400 4000 so if you're eight units an acre I not get enough saying see that's what the planners would be the engineers eight with roads.

Yeah so there's single families stand alone standalone is a product the state would like to see more of even if they are on smaller lots to make them more affordable.

And are we limiting height um in this case we're just we haven't changed anything here what if we care what the state wants and I want to do what's right for our community and what's exactly really care.

Because that's kind of what we were looking at here because that's kind of what the direction we felt we got was kind of look at this area what's there what are the opportunities is there an opportunity to change something that would make this better or is this uh kind of the way it should be uh already so again you'll notice even though most of this was all in that residential medium density um the RA2 is compatible but that RA1 isn't necessarily the acre lots um again we've got a little bit of incongruence uh we've got some RA1 here on a lot that is not an acre um and then we have properties that would be in that commercial land use designation that are zoned residential kind of throughout um even one right here so what uh we had the GIS put together for us was kind of a map that kind of overlaid the the the different uses um you want to talk about this one you probably talk more with Parker about this one than I did.

Um and then we have properties that would be in that commercial land use designation that are zoned residential kind of throughout.

Um right here.

So what uh we had uh GIS put together for us was kind of a map that kind of overlaid the the the different uses.

Um want to talk about this one?

You probably talk more with Parker about this one than I did.

So just red, you have the commercial pieces, uh the light blue is just single family uses, um sort of the medium blue is the duplex, and then the dark blue is the triplexes that exist.

So it's two of those and three of the duplexes with some mixed use over there in the extension of the town center and was that work sort of lots, and then there's a couple of uh gray vacant uh parcels still that all kind of leads to what the density actually looks like, not what it actually is, or not what it actually uh is planned or designated as you can see that we have a variety of sort of lot sizes, and if you divide it by the number of units that are on there, it's sort of densities that are happening on each of those lots uh throughout the area.

Uh some are even at the high or above level just because of their size.

Yeah.

So the duplexes that are there and stuff would be considered a high density because of the number of size of the lot and the size of the lot that they're on.

But the zoning does not fit that.

Yeah.

Doesn't fit the zone.

So these these are kind of that's kind of our next slide, I think, isn't the non-conforming.

No, or that's a couple more in.

This just shows sort of the the black is the building footprints, and you can sort of see this area that has sort of larger lots with smaller sort of building footprints on them and some of our surrounding, and then you can see over there on the east uh the other R3 area, and how sort of that is developed uh typically for that medium density.

I have a question or an answer to the question that council member asked about those town homes.

Can I just tell you with the year they were built?

Go ahead.

Yeah, it was 2013 and 14 that they were built.

According to the neighbor that lives next door to them.

So I'm Jim Duncan.

Jim Duncan?

Yeah.

I was guessing around 10 years.

2013 and 14.

That was one of us.

The contract wanted to put two houses on it.

And the shitty one delay, yeah.

So you had the letter property go, and then if within a year they had 14 town homes on that same properties.

What's your name, sir?

Right one.

12124, 18.

Thank you.

Probably.

What was the size of the lot?

Geno, roughly.

It was here.

About a 10 year old.

Check that.

Yeah, to have the zone and load and color like that would have come up.

It was a it was DAI.

DARPA.

Okay.

Wow.

So the the next map is kind of, yeah, the the one we had to put together to try and show what we're kind of dealing with on that incongruence.

Um the idea here being we've got two colors that when they're blended, it's both.

Uh the purple.

Um, so where the use doesn't necessarily match the zoning is in the red.

Um red is sorry, red is the smaller lots are smaller than the zoning allows.

The red lots don't conform to the current zone.

Current zone size-wise.

The blue is where the zoning and the land use aren't consistent.

So we have those RA1 properties that are not consistent with the R3 medium density land use designation or the sort of uh the residential zone properties that are in the commercial landscape.

But the purple is zoning and land use.

So it's just meaningful.

So it that kind of helped us see where maybe this issue uh occurs a little bit more if there were a focus spot in here.

Um another part that I just uh I had someone come in today to talk about the properties right here and actually look at requesting an RM2 zone to put down homes in.

So and and that was gonna be my question.

If you had people inquiring about different pieces within the study area, that's the quilters place, right?

Yeah, so it's a quilter's place, and it's like as I understand it kind of the family has purchased uh most of these.

I think there's there's one that they don't own, which still a neighbor that may or may not be willing to uh come in with them on a development compliance.

We know we have uh I guess because it's all like seven.

Oh gosh, Fredo Farms was the we need to clarify on that.

The development that uh has come in and and asked for some things and kind of maybe spearheaded uh asking the question about what we might want here as a city.

So we know that there's development pressure probably in this area, and we know that there's incongruence to things up here.

I've also had a conversation with one of the family members up in this area, and the family is looking to maybe do something of the development their their words, not mine of we just don't want to sell it to a developer, we'd rather do it ourselves so we know what we get.

Um so yeah, maybe just moving back to kind of that, you can kind of see maybe some development pressure in this area that that we need to look at.

We might want to look at some things here.

So the options that we thought of where we can keep the land use map as it is.

Um determine that it's appropriate with the sort of half block commercial, density residential, the full block of commercial on the bottom on the south side, sorry.

Uh you know council can direct us to look into amending the land use map.

Um another option is we can mend the land use map and then start city initiated uh zoning uh rezones, which is never fun, but it's an option.

Um you know, in that case, whatever existing use would continue to continue as a legal non-conformity use on those properties.

So yeah, option three may create more non-conformities, but it may be an option if you're wanting to really set what it is you want there, or what we feel in the community wants that.

Have we have we done that elsewhere in the city where we've been the one initiating the zone change?

That doesn't sound very familiar to me.

Yeah, it's very rare.

And I don't necessarily recommend it unless it's something that uh council feels is something that needs to happen.

And one and two would allow the property owners to can come in on their own.

So three would be more along the lines of a master plan, right?

Drive driven by the council.

Yeah.

So wouldn't wouldn't two also be a master plan?

Well, it it is at the highest level of planning.

We want this right here.

Specific, yeah, specific zone specific uses, that kind of thing.

Land use map is are there maybe some areas in there where maybe you've got the medium density, is there medium high density area that maybe is a buffer between the commercial?

Is that appropriate?

Is it not?

Um you did what those factors that's right.

Again, this is our current land use map as the general plan currently envisions the area to sort of become eventually.

Okay.

It's it'll work for medium density for that.

Yeah, but it can be dense in the office.

This would have your commercial uses.

Could you get equivalent 12 in this neighborhood commercial density in that?

I don't think it really works that way just because commercial is so different.

Yeah, yeah, we don't have standards necessarily one size for commercial.

So somebody could chop it into little tiny units on a commercial condo.

Or leave it as a bigger box store.

Obviously.

So we could buy a whole section.

Yeah, whatever building fits in the colour.

Well, this is already that uh well, no, what I mean is like say there was a section like that in that.

Yeah, you could I mean use could look pretty dense in the commercial zone.

Yes, is what I'm saying.

Yeah, they're their only main limit really is part of the parking drives.

Well, parking and um the the 20% landscape that we require is that the definition of abundant landscaping or what that's just our in our standard for a long time kind of.

I just saw a high density that says abundant landscaping and it was paying that to me.

That's a high yeah, I don't know that I have a definition for that.

So I mean there may be something to look at here or or here if if that's where a lot of the development pressure is right now, we do realize those are the larger lots.

Um as compared to maybe some of the smaller ones that are up in here that actually have the lower uh our our uh A1 land use zone.

The other thing is if you did change um designations on the land use here, that would kind of going back to these other pieces that would then kind of set density should be if someone were to come in and ask for a rezone on their own.

So just kind of keeping in mind that this is already kind of that quarter acre, two to four for most of the area that is residential kind of behind the commercial that was two to four per acre.

Two to four per acre, yes.

Thoughts, direction.

I'm good with two to four houses per acre in this land use map.

Kind of to keep it as it is.

I don't know, I'm wondering if we need to go back and fix things, but I I like the medium use through there.

That's um I feel comfortable with it.

What about we're just talking?

You know, what about 12200 south?

Making that neighborhood commercial on both sides.

I just think it's gonna be creep.

Yeah, I I'm I'm just yeah.

And those are some of the issues that you need to consider or creep, because we've talked about creep in other areas of the city and figure out.

Does that stop this right here?

Yes, like demarkey, right?

Just the line that's almost straight right where your mouse is that the mid block there?

Like a southern part of the block.

But then I don't know.

I don't I'm yeah.

From a flying perspective, it wouldn't hurt to have a buffer if you went with a higher density residential.

Um the neighborhood commercial is kind of your lower end uh commercial anyway.

I don't know if we really have a lower commercial land use intensity.

It just shows up really bright and vibrant because they decide to use red.

I mean, which is the best buffer.

Well, is there density in between medium and high?

Yeah, there's a residential medium high.

Okay.

It's not on this.

That was on another slide and it was under eight, right?

Between four and eight, yeah.

Yeah.

Sorry.

I added at the end of the year.

So that is an option if you're looking to maybe adjust the land use map.

It could go in there, but that would then be maybe upping the density for some.

It would allow multifamily at the RM1, which again maxes out the eight per acre instead of the twelve.

Um, but it could also do single family residential, but R4 there are five, which would be some of the smaller lot single family.

But even with these land use designations, it still is up to a property owner to come in and ask for a specific zone that fits that.

And for instance, RM1 may not work at all in this area, it may work in some parts of this area versus R4 or whatever.

So really that this land use is the highest level that we're looking at, and within that, there's typically three or four different options within each one of those um designations.

They wanted to create an opportunity for single family detached on the 4,000 square foot lot.

If that was something they wanted to do, what would they have to do to do that beat the residential high density?

But if you wanted to go to the 6,000 square foot lot, this would be that.

Okay.

Yeah.

Because that would be 10 units an acre if the roughly uh eight.

But yeah.

But if you were 3,000 square foot lots, you'd be about two square.

But don't you have to take in account roads and stuff, yeah.

Remove some of that.

Yeah.

So it wouldn't you really only be eight units probably depends there.

I think it's important to bear in mind the proximity as well to the Kimball's Lane station area plan.

And this is right kind of between both.

In fact, it's it is uh how the top part is to me if you're gonna increase residential density, I think it should be single family detached that type of product.

Um and however that's you know done as a guarantee that it's owned ownership driven.

It needs to be a step back in the density that we're already.

A single family home would help do that, wouldn't it?

Like buffer it.

Well, those that are buffer it though, you go out on one thirty let it you've got that and stay that meaning.

Yeah, but those homes that are back in there.

But a lot of those are twin homes, I think.

It doesn't look like a twin home.

There's some single family ones, but then there's that neighborhood behind it.

Oh, it's a very good one.

I don't want to all see those are not.

The main thing we're looking for is kind of the correction.

If you want us to bring forward a land use map amendments, we can do that.

It's great the way it is.

We can leave alone.

Um that would probably be the two steps here.

Um if there was a any desire to rezone, we could take that to the we have so much.

It's happening at Kimball's Lane.

So much is happening over here.

Yeah.

On the UTA side.

I don't want to do anything in this spot.

That's going to make that worse.

I'm just I I I think I think I want single family homes quarter acre.

Already about Kimball's line.

I'm sorry, I I I don't want to that that's how I feel.

I and I don't really want to go in with a broad brush and rezone big swaths.

I'm uncomfortable with that.

I think that's an overreach.

It's an option.

We put it out there.

We don't necessarily recommend that.

Um this would yeah.

Yeah, if if uh leaving alone is good.

I think we leave it alone.

It also helps us in planning.

We get these requests, we can kind of give them a little bit of feedback as to uh if they do come in and and want to request one of these house, they're welcome to.

We'll bring it to to the council, of course.

Uh but then that decision is.

So two of you want to leave it alone, three four or two.

I like the land use map as it is.

So that's three.

Well I love the quarter acre, half acre lots for sure.

Um it's not gonna be affordable.

Then my concern is if we did something like this and changed it, then I think we've opened the door for just townhouses everywhere.

And so I like having a lower density where we can you know the quarter acre and yeah, keeping it uh the level it's at a big change for people that live there.

Yeah.

And I don't want to oops.

Another single family home is not a good thing.

So get the four you still get the quarter acre with the current.

Yeah.

If they came in and asked for an R4 zone, uh that would still be allowed in the area.

Or I'd say that's the same.

And it's not we've overridden the system and said, well, town homes are fine in this whole entire area.

At least if we have a development agreement, we can say cottage style homes, limit the height, and make them be single family, make them be per sale.

Okay.

Yeah, but that could come with a plan that would maybe be more than four dwellings per an acre.

It could, and then we'd have to look at each one individually and see if that fits the area.

Let's just kind of set such ideas.

But the development agreement does give us a lot of control.

I think that's the only way you control it is the development agreement.

I mean, there's a presumption that that land use designation is correct.

And I don't know what evidence overcomes that presumption in any shape or form at this point.

All right.

I think we would have to do that.

The challenge is if you got existing uses there that aren't compatible with the case.

Yeah.

But you can't change that.

The zone change could change that, but I don't know that that's something that you want to do.

It could also bring other zones.

Even if we were to fix it, no, that's what I mean.

You'd fix it for some and you'd mess it up for others, right?

I don't think there's one change that's gonna manifest perfection in this area.

You do have 12 townhomes right in the middle of the room.

That's the problem.

I don't know if there's a lot of different things.

But we didn't do that life.

And we can't fix that.

I didn't make my problem.

No communities perfect.

And certainly that's the other, right?

That's not the majority.

It's a spot zone.

It's a spot zone, and we don't like to spot.

I'm not gonna do that.

I think we've got what we kind of needed to kind of know what direction to go, so thank you.

All right, so we've got 30 minutes.

Um council manager discussions now.

Yeah.

Who's got one?

Um I'll just say the residents in Suncrest were really grateful for all of the work that was done with the wood shipping when they cleared the debris behind their homes to make them more fire safe.

Yes.

I think hopefully it was entertaining.

It was decent.

I think we want to comment about the zoning chain.

We're actually not doing comments on it, but uh they they've decided to leave it how it is.

So that's what their direction is given.

I totally against changing eight piece because of the high density and the traffic, leave it at R2.

Oh two on like corner 22 and 8 feet.

Your two locks that were added, and just leave that what it only got two houses on each one of those actually.

Thank you, sir.

I just want to say the wood chipping thing went really well, and Rhett really stepped up and made that possible.

I think eight different residents had collected debris from their backyards, and there's ten of them.

Yeah, yeah.

I think most of you've heard of it.

Several of them said thank you.

Yeah, and they sent them my email, and there was a really nice thing up on their Facebook page.

A lot of them have been losing their fire insurance, so I think this meant a lot to them.

Anything else?

That's very hard to ensure up there right now.

Yeah.

No, I just wanted to thank Rhett and everybody who supported that.

I think the more we can do for this defensible space.

Who's in the model?

I don't have anything there.

Brin.

I have read that UTA.

Did you oh yeah, yep.

Um Brid reached out to me with um an email she'd received from UTA.

Uh so I I asked them what it was about, and they said that they had sent it to everybody on the council.

Um there were three attachments.

Um their budget is approved at the end of the year.

Yep.

So they one of the things they they sent was a tentative budget signature sheet saying that you'd receive their tentative budget.

Um, but I don't know if any of you have else have received that.

And and I'd never seen this before in any other prior year, and Kelly hadn't seen it, and John hadn't seen it, so I don't know if this is something new, but um maybe check your email.

I I Brent, if you want to figure yours out and sign it and send it in that you receive it, that's great.

But I don't know statutorily if we've got any obligation I don't think there's any requirement that you sign received the intended budget.

Yep.

I think they would love for you to do it, but you don't maybe they know I attend their meetings virtually until we're like you out.

Okay.

But their budget is on their website.

Are you the ending you can do?

No, I just like to do that.

I attend their meetings sometimes physically.

Yes.

Okay, anyone else?

I have nothing.

Marsha?

Any staff?

Any eyes?

Yeah, Rhett, do you want to go ahead?

Just thought I'd update you because some of you had asked about where we're at with an arborist.

After you report that have one accepted an offer, I've signed this papers, and he'll be starting Monday.

Oh, that's awesome.

Yay.

I think he's gonna be great.

He comes with all the certifications.

We require CDL, city experience.

So he's got make the background checks and everything, so we're ready to go over to do it.

That's awesome, right?

So I was hoping that all these changes that were requested for tonight that your arborist had had a chance to look them over, but sounds like not.

No, that's all she can right now.

Mr.

Cooley, yeah, I'll give you an update on um 138 cell.

It'll be opening um on next Thursday a week from this Thursday.

We could open it earlier.

And uh it is open to local traffic, so and a lot of other people are using it.

But it it will help us finish quicker by keeping it closed until next Thursday.

And hopefully they'll be primarily done, so the rest will just be shoulder work after that.

So ultimately.

I I sent it to you first and then I sent it to him like explaining the soil issues and the trench issues and problems.

Yeah, really um they're only about two weeks behind, but there were some major utility conflicts that so this was a joint project with um the sewer district and with water pro and the city and utilities always go in first and and there were just a lot of utility conflicts.

Uh there's a lot of old stuff in there.

Well they had some collapsed trenches in there.

And they did yeah, a lot of sand, so it's very actually digging through sand is easy, but keeping a trench in the sand and not easy.

So as we all learn at the beach.

We can try it out.

Well, great job on that project.

Yeah, it turned out nice.

The road's nice.

Sidewalk's nice.

I'll have you illegally driven down here.

On my bike.

I will say that um the first uh asphalt that they put in did not pass, so they had to rip it out.

I saw that.

That's always sad to see, but it just it warmed my heart.

It did not meet specifications.

Good.

We have a very rigorous inspection program.

Uh the really we've been having some issues with the mix coming out of um Geneva's site.

Which is strange.

Uh so they actually didn't we didn't use our their asphalt to finish the project, so that's nice.

Yeah, absolutely.

Handle a 700 year storm now.

Yeah, 700 year old every two years.

There's a few cities that had those.

Luckily not us.

Anyone else have anything?

Linda, do you want to talk about our mountain lion friend?

No.

Mountain lions back.

Yeah, I think Mike had sent an email to all of the council about our process to see if you had any preferences.

We have uh received suggestions from the public.

We narrowed that down to a list of like ten.

Um so there were a few options to go to the next step, which would be we pick a top three, have people vote on those, list um all of the narrowed down submissions and have people vote, or either you as counsel or we as staff choose a name and run with it.

Um because it's since it's wrong organically through social media, we're kind of at a point where we need to continue the story, and so we don't really want to introduce a lengthy process at this point because it will lose its momentum.

So people are having fun with it, and so the next step would be he is in court being judged by Judge Gardner.

And um the city will adopt him or her as the mascot for the city and turn his wife around to do community forward.

Oh my gosh, can you go to pure court?

Since he was illegally stalking the hikers and bikers in the cane.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

So what are people gonna say when we adopt a couple?

A mountain line.

It is what it is.

It is what it is.

Mountain what is in a name?

Yeah.

How do you guys want to do it?

Do you want to narrow it down narrow down to three or just pick pick a name out of the I think people might want to vote?

I think narrowing it down to three isn't what's the name of the Utah's mascot?

Isn't it name Hawk?

Swoop.

Swoop.

There's your name.

So you guys want to do that and narrow down to the top three and then vote on the code.

I mean that's always a good option.

The the worry is like, do we have three names that we feel really strongly about?

Let's make sure we have three names and feel really good.

Why don't you send all the names to us and let him make the rate it would be okay with it?

Everybody vote on your top three names when Lindy emails you.

Okay.

Remember when they put the name the boat that ship in England and they were like, McFace, we need a boat.

You have the right to trump whatever name might be there.

I'm down to call it Bodie McQuady face.

So it's ours.

Is it ours now?

Like, we can't do that.

That's a banner.

Yes.

There's no police report.

And no one's called the value check on the box.

It's it was littering and we just confiscated the litter.

It's found property.

You know it's someone.

Like someone's watching.

Yeah.

And you heard it here today.

If Tracy's had to be a little bit more than a lot of the model.

So you're gonna email everyone the names.

You guys all pick your top three very.

Have you seen the cougar?

Yeah.

So last meeting um I mentioned that we I'd received a letter from the Jordan Basin Improvement District uh asking for an appointment to their board either an appointment to their board or to go through the a selection procedure.

Uh so the options are is to point either the mayor or one of the council members to be on their board or go through a procedure similar to what we do when we fill a vacancy on the TRSSD board.

Um should ask the questions about time commitments, etc.

Um it's a monthly meeting at seven in the morning.

Oh I can volunteer for that one.

It's um 5 30 this morning.

Typically about an hour long meeting that is either in person or Zoom, and then there's a a um one night in November, there's an evening uh meeting to approve their budget.

Um so it it seems like it's a fairly minimal uh commitment, but they're apparently there's some really important issues coming up, and um it might be it might be wise to have somebody from the council or the mayor pull you know Troy had said he was interested in doing it.

Is that still true?

Yeah, I'm I'm willing to do it if you want to appoint an elected official.

Well, they said they would prefer an elected official, so I think we need to do one of us.

They did say that, yes.

That's one of the three government functions, it's got it.

If you want it, Troy, you're the mayor, you should do it.

I don't I don't need to go to six a hundred days.

Well, I'll I'll tee it up on the 20th or the next meeting November for the last appointment.

Yeah, this is what Alan Summerhays was doing, right?

Yeah.

So this is Jordan.

So uh based an improvement.

All that interviews and what have you.

So of course the elected officials are accountable to the residents that use the very pipes in which said brownwater leaves the community.

You want an alternate.

Yeah, probably good to have an alternate or a staff member just in case.

I don't know that the statute allows a staff member to be appointed.

Um I can look at that.

But just someone just out of town or something.

Yeah, right.

It's just the mayor per times.

Well, then your mayor for 10 for two or three more meetings, and so uh go with it.

Okay.

It's a very important job.

Well, the person won't take their position until the new act.

So to the point.

Yeah.

Take Alan.

Already there.

That's that's all I have, thank you.

Anyone else have anything else?

Uh just know from Chen for that we have two alternates on the flight commission whose terms technically have expired.

No, I call that the fact that we're um there.

Okay, okay.

So we'll get them for the uh future meeting.

Well, we'll have a little more energy in a few weeks.

Two weeks, perhaps.

We got some email today from the woman from the Miller Sports and Entertainment.

Did you guys all see that?

No, today they must partner with them to host a fundraiser night for their holiday light display.

Yeah, okay.

It just came today, yeah, at 11 a.m.

10.57 a.m.

And they would kick us back some of the ticket money.

I don't even know if we're allowed to do that.

Yeah, could you just see to be too sure?

Yeah.

We already do our own holiday lighting, so I mean, I don't know if you're not going to be able to do that.

But I think it would be kind of nice for us to offer the residents the discount.

They said on our fundraising night, residents from Great Burg could go for 14 instead of 18.

Some residents would like to go on a discounted price.

I'm sure.

To go where?

Oh, oh, they're trying to sell tickets to the ballpark.

Yeah.

And I bet there are some residents who'd like to go check it out.

Do we have to do anything to be a partner?

I haven't I haven't I don't I haven't seen this emails.

What do you guys think about that?

I actually think it might not be a bad idea.

I mean we might get a little bit of money from it.

It sounds like it's the thing that schools do for fundraising all the time.

Like the UT does it all the time where you just pick a night, they do all of the marketing and you just tell everybody go this way and you get it.

And we'd get money back.

And they get a discount to go.

Well, it just gives something for our residents to benefit from to do that.

Yeah, they can see the new ballpark, they'd get a lower price to go in.

Yeah.

I at least I don't know where Linda's.

Linda and I sometimes get these.

We got one to for Jazz.

I think people kind of like those like special draper type things.

I think it'd be yeah, wait.

I think that's a good community thing to engage with.

A neighboring community.

And people like we're not forcing anybody to do it.

Like if they want to go to special draper jaws night, they go to special draper jazz night.

And I would just make sure there's not a minimum or something.

You know, sometimes it's like, oh, you have to.

Yeah, I know that there's no string.

Yeah.

We don't have to provide so many people there.

Do you want me to reach back and tell them we're interested in doing it?

Well, we and I guess we need to determine a day when we want to do it.

But I think we should think about it.

I didn't know that they asked us to do a jazz.

A couple months ago they asked us about it.

That's how desperate the jazz are.

But can't they just buy their tickets with like a special price or something?

Well, maybe we just need a little more information.

Yeah, probably shouldn't be able to do that.

We should see your remodeled area.

You're interested in checking it out.

Yeah, I think anyone's gonna be able to do that.

So then we can put that for no money goes to the computer.

Yes, I thought you called from the Utah Jazz and Utah Mammoth ticketing department.

Um, wait, they're off in a mammoth night.

Yeah.

Well my tell me more.

Well actually the benefits of the Tusky McCuss face.

This is mostly geared towards employees, but it did say possibly possibly Draper City residents if we want to open up there.

So I can call you back.

Wait, but we have to be careful of that as a code.

I think we just didn't know how to do the employees.

I don't know.

It's not we just didn't have time to city.

It sounds like we just have to advertise it basically to offer it.

They our residents would buy discounted tickets and we would get four dollars back.

Something to do.

Like a whole neighborhood could go.

Sure, absolutely.

Yeah.

This could start with a trade employee night.

I think those are cool opportunities.

Like Draper City employees want discounted tickets to go see an ice hockey team up.

A nice thing to offer.

We tried to go from the camera.

I'll have a break until the meeting.

Okay.

Oh, yeah, Marsha went home.

Okay.

She feels sick.

All right, ladies and gentlemen.

Oh, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to our city council meeting this evening.

I'm Mayor Walker.

I'd like to get it started.

Apologize we're five minutes late.

Um, I'd like to call this meeting officially to order.

We're going to start with the Pledge of Allegiance, which we do every year every week, and we're gonna have a pledge of allegiance by Mr.

Red Ogden, our parks director.

Go ahead, sir.

And look for which it stands one nation indivisible with other speed and justice for all.

Thank you, Rhett.

All right.

And then item number three has been continued.

And item number four is next.

And I'm gonna start off.

Um item number four is an opportunity for us to uh do a proclamation for extra mile day.

And I'm gonna read the the shortened version of the proclamation, the long version is long.

This one is uh short and down, but I'm gonna read this proclamation into our record.

Uh extra mile day, whereas the city of Draper is a community which acknowledges that a special vibrancy exists within the entire community when its individual citizens collectively go the extra mile in personal effort, volunteerism, and service.

And whereas the City of Draper is a community which encourages its citizens to maximize their personal contribution to the community by giving of themselves wholeheartedly and with total effort, commitment, and conviction to their individual ambitions, family, friends, and community.

And whereas the City of Draper is a community which chooses to shine a light and on and celebrate individuals and organizations within its community who go the extra mile in order to make a difference and lift up fellow members of their community.

And whereas the City of Draper acknowledges the mission of Extra Mile America to create 550 extra mile cities in America and is proud to support Extra Mile Day, which is will be November the first, 2025.

Now therefore I Troy K.

Walker, mayor of Draper City, Utah, do hereby proclaim November 1st, 2025 to be Extra Mile Day.

I urge each individual community to take time on this day to not only go the extra mile in his or her own life, but to also acknowledge all those who are inspirational in their efforts and commitment to make their organizations, families, community, country, and world a better place.

I've signed this dated 21st day of October, 2025.

Now next I have um we have in Draper since it is extra mile day coming up, we have an extra mile hero.

Um unfortunately, our extra mile hero is uh probably doing whatever it is she loves the most right now.

So and it's our our extra mile hero is uh Miss Jean Hendrickson, who was a lifelong educator and community servant who exemplified kindness and dedication throughout her 96 and a half years.

As a teen, she attended Draper Park Junior High after graduating from BYU and beginning a teaching career that would last 32 years, including a including at Draper Elementary.

She married a Draper native, Robert Hendrickson, raised three children, earned a master's degree and a paralegal certification, and volunteered extensively, including at the Utah Legal Aid and as a docent of this of the Sorenson Home Museum.

In 1992, alongside fellow retirees, she founded the Draper Visual Arts Foundation, the DVAF, to restore the Reed and Wilda Beck Art Collection.

The DVAF evolved into a curating community displays like the Drape of Visitor Arts Mural at City Hall, offering low-cost children's art classes, hosting the annual Art in the Barn event, and awarding $70,000 in prizes through the art scholarship competition for high school seniors.

As a DVAF president for many years, Jean earned the 2017 Draper Citizen of the Year Award at 91 during the COVID-19 pandemic.

She sold 100 masks for healthcare workers.

She is survived by her children, Carl Scott and Jenny, plus 11 grandchildren, 19 great-grandchildren, and three great great-grandchildren, leaving a profound legacy of compassion, service, and going the extra mile.

So please give a round of applause for Miss Jean Hendrickson.

Thank you.

And we and we have now a certificate and a nice plant.

So children of Miss Hendrickson, would you come up?

Is that what we want, Kelly?

Come on up.

We'll come down to the front here and present you guys.

And there is a great picture of Jean.

I I met her first campaigning, knocked on her door, you know, kind of hoping it'd be a short, just a introduction visit.

It turned into like, I'm not kidding you, like forty-five to fifty minutes of uh getting to know Jean.

So it was awesome.

She's she was a fun lady.

So we will miss her.

She certainly was example for exemplary of the extra mile and um foundation and everything she did.

All right.

Next, um, it's a night of proclamations.

The next proclamation um we are doing this evening is a proclamation for kindness week worldwide, um, which we certainly can use more of in this world.

Whereas kindness is an expression of love that uplifts others, ourselves, fostering health, peace, and well-being, whereas kindness is the heartbeat of humanity, sustaining hope, building self-esteem, and strengthening connection, whereas giving and receiving kindness increases happiness, optimism, and self-worth while reducing helplessness and depression, whereas acts of kindness inspire others to pay it forward, extending their impact far beyond the initial gesture.

Whereas no act of kindness is too small to make a difference, and every individual has the power to change lives and communities through compassion.

Whereas kindness, humanity's greatest asset, is a conscious choice that should be encouraged, recognized, and celebrated to create a more peaceful and caring world.

Now, therefore, I Troy K.

Walker, Mary Draper City, Utah, do hereby proclaim November eighth through the fifteenth, twenty twenty five as a kindness week worldwide.

During the week, during this week, individual families, schools, businesses, faith base, and service organizations, and all community members are encouraged to embrace the same, see the good, be the good, go the extra mile.

Sign and dated the twenty first day of October, twenty twenty-five.

We keeping these or Jane here for the NRP, which is a good thing.

You wrote one more picture, Jenny.

Are you ready?

And I'll bring the extra mile proclamation.

All right, that gets us to item number six, which is an opportunity for members of the public to address the council on general items.

There is a public hearing coming up in this meeting.

If you're here for that, we ask that you wait until that public hearing is called to keep our record clear on the on the comments.

But if you'd like to make a general public comment to our city council, this is the time.

Is there anyone that would like to make a general public comment?

All right, just before you come up, if I think you've done it before, I'll bog over our rules.

They're simple.

There's a clock to my right, your left.

It's a three-minute timer.

Everyone gets three minutes, no one gets more.

You don't have to use them all.

Give us your name and address, and we'll we'll be glad to hear your comments.

Hi, I'm Sarah Brinkerhoff from the Draper Library.

Our address there is 1136 East Pioneer Road.

So we are literally right next to you.

Um really excited it's been too long since I've been here.

I will be back sooner.

Um, and this is a really good tie into your last two proclamations.

I'm here to talk about our tiny art show.

I brought a poster.

Um you may have heard about it.

This is our fourth year doing our tiny art show at the Draper Library.

We anticipate over 500 entries from community members.

Um, the art show will be on display from November 10th to um probably about December 20th.

Um, but we'd like to invite the council as well as any of our government employees or anyone to come and join us to help judge the art show.

Our art show brings together people of from like kindergarten up, all ages and ability levels.

We already have over 140 all ability entrants from our adults with intellectual disabilities that are still really active in our all ability program at the library.

Um, so we'd love to have you guys come.

It's a very easy process.

You don't have to sign up or do any applications.

I have a flyer.

There's either a QR code you can scan, or we have a paper ballot.

It's very simple.

There's only five things.

You just write your favorite art under each category.

So we'll have a lot of art, but it's very easy because there's just five awards.

You can literally just write down the numbers of five or ten if you have time.

Um it's a very close walk.

You can come over and join us anytime we're open.

If you can't make it during our open hours, shoot me an email.

I can get you there before we open.

But we're open um, you know, 10 to 9 Monday through Thursday and uh 10 to 6 Friday and Saturday.

So we'd love to have you come visit and do the art show.

We'll be having a reception for the public on December 10th in the evening and one in the afternoon for our all abilities folks.

It's a great opportunity to come and represent the community and be there and see all these wonder into full individuals who have contributed.

We've had people who they've been doing this for four years, they do it as a family.

Um it's a great thing that represents like the love of art in our, you know, um extra mile stories as well as a way for you guys to show extra extra miles, especially because the first time to judge is during kindness week.

So you can show a kindness to the library by coming and judging.

And this stands for all of our employees, our police, our firefighters, any of the other employees of the government can stop by.

We'll have paper ballots, or you can scan and use your phone and vote on it.

And like I said, it's a very quick thing and easy way to give back and to participate.

If you want your name to be included, we'll have a list of the judges, or you can be anonymous.

Um, it's totally optional, but it's a great way to show that we're participating in things.

Um, and I'm hoping to come back and share more about the great things the library is up to.

We've been very busy, lots of fun things.

So thank you for the opportunity to share this.

Thank you.

And I'll leave these with you guys if you reach out to Kelly Chalberg via email.

She can schedule it for council members.

Thank you very much.

Anyone else like to make a general public comment to the council this evening?

All right, seeing no further public comment, I'll close up item six, go to seven, which is our consent items.

Item seven A is approval of the October 7th, 2025 City Council meeting minutes.

Item 7B is an approval of resolution 2556, a resolution authorizing the mayor to grant a public utilitiesman on real property owned by Draper City for the Jensen Farm Park.

Item 7C is approval of resolution 2557.

A resolution of the Draper City Council conveying real property while retaining access easements to enable development according to the terms of the War Horse Ranch Development Agreement.

Item 7D is approval of resolution 2558, a resolution appointing Tasha Lowry as a member of the Draper City Audit Committee.

All right, we have a motion by Miss Lowry to go.

I'd like to make a motion to approve the consent calendar.

Motion to approve by Miss Lowry is there second.

I'll second.

Second by Mr.

Green.

Any further discussion?

Ms.

Lowry, how do you vote?

Yes.

Mr.

Green?

Yes.

Mr.

Lowry?

Yes.

Ms.

Johnson?

Yes.

I'll note that passes four to zero.

Uh I'll note Councilwoman Marsha Baudry is ill this evening and has gone gone home.

She was here for our study meeting, but had to leave.

So we have uh a quorum with four members of the council.

Item eight is next.

It's an item for council consideration.

It is a public hearing.

It is approval of ordinance numbers 1678 and 1679.

An ordinance amending the zoning map for approximately 0.83 acres from RA2 residential agricultural to RM multifamily residential, RM2, multi-family residential, and an ordinance amending the land use map for the same property for residential load and medium density to residential high density located at 625 east, 1100 south, known as the Kimball's Junction addition zoning map and land use map.

We'll have a report by Todd Draper.

Go ahead, sir.

Thank you.

And I am filling in for Jennifer.

This was her uh application.

And she did take this to the planning commission as well.

So this is the vicinity map.

This is over by Kimball's Lane.

Uh this is the Edge Homes properties there.

This is also part of what they'll be adding to that.

This is again the aerial map.

And you'll see the uh existing land use map, residential high density for those properties.

That is the requested land use for this, so they can add it to the overall project.

And then again with the zoning map, currently RA2, they would like to put that to RM2.

Uh of note in the development agreement, it was allowed to expand uh the area as they were able to maybe acquire some of the additional properties around.

So this does not require us to amend the development agreement at this time.

Uh again, just overall of where that Kimball's junction currently is.

That would be added into that.

Uh and again, just a little bit more on that development agreement, allowing that expansion.

This is the current site photo.

And uh the planning commission at their meeting did forward a positive recommendation for the land use map change and the zoning map change on votes five to zero.

Do you have any other questions for me?

Questions were Mr.

Draper.

All right, thank you.

Thank you, sir.

This is a public hearing.

Is there any from the public that would like to address the council on item eight, ordinance 1678 and 1679?

The applicants here.

Do you want to address the council?

Come on up.

Yeah, thank you.

Uh my name is Brandon Watson with Edge Homes.

Um, yeah, so this uh parcel came across our our table uh just shortly after we were here for the rezone for the the rest of the project.

Um so timing didn't work out for us uh to bring it forward at that time, but uh we've we've done our due diligence on this project, uh this particular piece, and would like to annex that into our current development agreement.

So happy to answer any questions you might have or can address the public as well.

Questions?

How will this be additive to your project?

Yeah, sure.

So we're currently in the process right now of drawing up our concept plan and finalizing it, and so uh pending a vote tonight uh as we proceed forward with our concept plan.

We do intend to incorporate this parcel into it, uh you know, with some additional.

How would that make it stronger?

How will that make it stronger?

Yes, yeah.

So this one's uh the this the whole project as it sits is kind of peculiar because it's subdivided by the uh the canal that cuts through it, right?

Um this is just oh yeah.

There we go.

Um yeah, so this uh this the canal that kind of bisects the property.

This is the last little parcel uh on this side of the canal that uh is north of 119 south.

And so our development agreement prior, we had just said if there's any parcels adjacent to uh the project north of 119 south that might be interested.

So yeah, that that's our intent.

Will it help you with this path we've discussed that will fall along the canal?

Um, yeah, so yes, it will.

Um the other significant part about this done parcel is Draper City currently owns the road in front of the parcel.

Um it does go and it the the next parcel to the west, it actually ends.

There's no more public dedication of 119 south of that point.

So allowing access onto 119th.

Um when we were at our planning commission, someone had written in uh a comment in support of this in an effort to perhaps allow traffic to get out out of 119th south, not going to 7th east, but coming through our development to get out onto Kimballs Lane.

So this does allow us to have public access there on 119th.

Uh and that is your intent to use that access.

Yeah, it's not uh we don't want it to be a main um access.

Our access that we're drawing up right now is on Kimball's Lane.

Um, both on the west and the east parcels.

The the one onto 119th South uh is intended to just be a a third access, not uh as a main thoroughfare.

But it does give you another option there to get out.

It gives us another option.

We're looking at uh trying to figure out if we're gonna just make that a one-way, uh meaning though only those on 119th can come into our development versus our development going down onto 119th and out to 7th, because uh as our traffic study is indicating at 7th east and 119th south is uh a little congested in the evenings, and so we don't want to put any more traffic onto 119th south than then what's already there.

Uh so we're just exploring some options right now on how to limit our development from going on to 119th.

But that does allow, I mean, 119th South right now is just a long dead end road, and so um from a fire safety standpoint, it makes sense to have an access onto 119th to allow those folks south to get out should anything happen at that intersection of 119th and 7th east.

Hope that makes sense.

Any other any other questions?

All right, thank you.

Is there anyone from the public that would like to address the council on this item?

All right, seeing no public comment, we'll close the public comment period.

Bring this back for council consideration, Mr.

Mayor, mr.

Lowry.

I make a motion that we approve ordinances 1678 and 1679.

All right, the motion is to approve the ordinances or second.

I'll second.

Second by Miss Lowry.

Any further discussion?

No, it makes sense to have this become a part of that station area plan.

Okay, S Lowry.

How do you vote?

Yes, Mr.

Lowry.

Yes, Mr.

Green.

Yes, Ms.

Johnson.

Yes.

Items approved unanimously, four to zero of those present.

Item number nine.

An exciting and exciting item.

I need a motion to recess the Draper Community reinvestment agency meeting.

So moved.

We got double motion, a motion by Miss Lowry second.

Second by Mr.

Green.

Um Ms.

Lower, how do you vote?

Yes.

Mr.

Green, yes.

Mr.

Lower?

Yes.

Johnson?

Yes.

All right.

We are now in to the community reinvestment agency meeting.

I will call this meeting to order.

Um the consent items are on our calendar.

Item 2A is approval of our July 15th, 2025, uh CRA meeting minutes.

Is there a motion?

So moved.

Motion by Miss Lowry, second.

I'll second.

Second by Mr.

Green.

Ms.

Lowry, how do you vote?

Yeah.

Mr.

Green?

Yes.

Mr.

Lowry?

Yes.

Johnson?

Yes.

Items are approved unanimously four to zero.

Next item on the agenda.

Is the uh item three A.

It's a approved resolution.

CRA 2506.

It's a resolution of Draper Community Reinvestment Agency dissolving the Draper Gateway Community Development Project.

Go ahead.

So uh this is uh a resolution within the CRA to uh eliminate this uh gate the gateway CDA now uh this that this CDA was created in January of 2010.

Uh the project ended tax collection in January of 2018.

Um the project included a lot of different things.

You can see a list of the main projects, uh Comfort Inn, Cowabunga Bay, Draper Spectrum, Spring Hill Suites, Fairfield Inn, Tyson.

I can't say that Sham and Cinemark.

So those projects all were part of the project.

We helped with some of the funding and some of the different things to take place there.

There is no fund balance left in here.

Utah code requires that we close the project area or it will remain in existence for uh eternity.

So this is really just a formality of closing that project area.

We do it first in within the CDA.

Um as soon as we uh leave the CDA, the first item will be to uh adopt an ordinance uh doing the same thing as the elected body.

So questions never say the government doesn't end something.

All right, is there a is there a motion Mr.

Mayor?

I'd like to make a motion that we approve resolution 2506.

All right, motion to approve resolution CRA 2506 by Ms.

Johnson.

Is there a second?

Second, second by Miss Lowry.

Any further discussion?

Seeing the Ms.

Johnson, how do you vote?

Yes, Lowry?

Yes, Mr.

Green?

Yes.

Mr.

Lowry?

Yes.

Items approved unanimously four to zero.

I now need a motion to adjourn from the CRA meeting.

Go back to the city council meeting.

So moved.

Oh motion by Ms.

Johnson, second by Miss Lowry.

Ms.

Johnson, how do you vote?

Yes.

Lowry.

Yep.

Mr.

Green.

Yes.

Mr.

Lowry.

All right.

We're back in our city council meeting.

So efficiently and quick.

Takes us to item number 10 on our council agenda.

And time 10A is consideration of ordinance 1681.

It's an ordinance dissolving the Draper Gateway Community Development Project area adopted by the City Council of Draper.

Item 10B.

I guess we can go one at a time.

Is that we're to do them all at the same time?

Just do 10A.

10A.

All right.

Is there a motion on 10A?

So moved.

Motion by Mr.

Lowry.

Second.

Second.

Second by Miss Lowry.

Is there further discussion?

Seeing them Mr.

Lowry, how do you vote?

Yes.

Lowry?

Yes.

Ms.

Johnson?

Yes.

Mr.

Green.

Yes.

Items approved unanimously four to zero.

10B.

Consideration of resolution 2553.

It's a resolution approving.

Oh, I see.

A reimbursement.

Totally.

Way to work there.

I appreciate that.

With Lloyd's TLC Limited for construction of public improvements in the area of Bangater Parkway in 1380 South and 150 East in Draper.

Mr.

Barker.

Yes.

So before you is a uh reimbursement agreement with Lloyd's TLC Limited.

They're the owners of the parcel of land located at 138th.

Bangater and 150 east here in Draper.

A couple years ago, the legislature appropriated state funds in the amount of 3.45 million dollars to improve certain system deficiencies along that that area of Bangater Highway.

And so the city would expand the funds and then be reimbursed by the state funds that are available.

Lloyd's developer of the project that will eventually be in that large uh parcel also has some street frontage um improvements that would benefit the city and and the public by creating better access into their project.

So this is a reimbursement agreement where they will do the work and the first money that would be paid out of this these reimbursement funds would go to pay off the system improvements, which are the deficiencies that have been identified.

And if there's any money left over, um they could be used to pay for the improvements such as uh street light uh extra lanes that type of things that would uh benefit the uh public by making the development easier to access.

Um and so we're asking for uh city council's approval of this agreement.

Um it's anticipated that the work if this is approved would start in March or so in the in the spring.

And um that's all if you have any questions.

Can you give a little detail on what the deficiencies were?

Um maybe Scott, if you could you know help me out with that.

I I think this is when when David was the city manager.

Oh I guess, and we don't have microphones alone there.

Sorry, I didn't quite catch the question.

So, what exactly are we spending the money on?

So the Bangar Parkway needs to be widened as well as uh 138 south.

So there will be a dedicated right turn on 138 south onto Bangar Parkway.

Um there's also some improvements on 150 east from Bangator Parkway, so that will be widened to accommodate uh a right turn lane as well into the development.

Um there will be also some right turn lanes on Bangar Parkway or a right turn lane into the development, as well as a traffic signal on Bangator Parkway that will be a three-quarter signal, which means it'll be uh left in and a right out, but not a left out of the development.

So really there's a lot of this development, the project site is very challenged by traffic movements, and it's in an area where we already have fairly significant issues.

Not it's not the worst area in Draper, but it can get bad.

Uh so these the these proposed solutions will alleviate a lot of the existing problems as well as accommodate the development.

I don't want to beleaguer this, but I'm having a hard time visualizing some of these terms.

Is it possible to pull up a map and have them kind of point to where these turns are?

Scott, is it a similar turn like um in Sandy with coming out of Quarry Bend uh shopping center where there's only really one direction that has to stop that three-quarter light that you're doing?

I'm not familiar with that area.

These so all of the turning movements out of this site will be right only.

So you can't turn left to come out out of the development.

Okay.

So it's it's very challenging that way.

Uh so there will be an access here, so there'll need to be a right turn lane into this access right here.

Yeah, that'll be so that that will that lane will be only going into this development.

But then from here, there's gonna be another lane added.

This will be a lane, it's kind of gonna be a little pork chop median here so that you don't actually have to stop.

It'll be a free flow onto a new lane that will be constructed on Bangar Parkway here that will go all the way down, and that eventually will continue on across I-15.

That's that's a separate project.

That's a UDOT project that will go on.

We actually have most of the width, and we have a receiving lane over here.

So in the future, near future, hopefully, UDOT will do that, which will alleviate a lot of the traffic issues.

But there will be another lane added here to Bangar Parkway that will continue on.

So it'll be three lanes all the way through.

Are you doing an intersection right where your mouse is somewhere?

In addition to that, there will be another lane added here for right in only to the development, and then there will be a signal added here, which will allow left left turns in, but not left turns out.

So this will be a right in and a left in, a right and a right out.

So they call that a three-quarter movement instead of so will there be a ride out on 138 south too, or just a right in.

Yes, there will be a right out.

Right in and a right out.

Correct.

Okay.

So the that's the challenge of this, and then there's gonna be another access point here as well, but that again, right in, right out only.

So really uh it's gonna be a lot of traffic movement.

If you're coming in and you're wanting to go, depending on where you're gonna want to go, you're gonna be turning right every time to get out.

So it will be.

A ride out on 300 east.

300 east is does not I'm actually not sure where we landed on that, quite honestly.

For right now, there's no as far as I know, there's right in, right out only.

Okay.

Well, we take I was just gonna ask if we would take ownership of these of these lights now to you know work with timing and efficiency.

With the approval of the funding, um you dot so you dot owned Bangetar Parkway all the way down to 138th.

So now Draper City actually owns uh although I don't know that it's been deeded to the city yet, but uh we're gonna own from 150 east all the way down to 138.

So we'll own and control this signal.

UDOT will own and control this signal, but we'll own from this point here all the way down on Bangar Parkway.

That was part of this whole agreement is this agreement to for the city to take that right away from UDOT.

And Scott, isn't there technology that you dot uses now that signals kind of talk to each other and there's a lot better synchronization?

Yeah.

But what happens if we have some signals and they have other signals, then will all of those signals communicate together?

Oh yes.

So we can time them so we don't sit at three lights.

Yeah, we're we try to get away from timing, but there are time signals, but it's the communication between signals will definitely be there.

Okay, great.

Thank you.

Yeah.

So this is this was uh funding that was granted to the city as a reimbursement.

So we don't get the money unless we spend it on these improvements, and then we can get reimbursed for it.

Any other questions for Mr.

Cooley?

It might be kind of nice to have a diagram made up of this.

It was so helpful that we were just explaining that question about this, it'd be nice to have a sure.

We have we have that.

I just wasn't prepared.

I was I didn't know I was gonna be asked questions, so I would appreciate I can send that to you.

Okay, sure.

All right, sir.

Is there a motion Mr.

Mayor?

I make a motion that we approve resolution 25-53.

All right, motion by Mr.

Lowry is there a second.

I'll second.

Second by Ms.

Johnson.

Any further discussion?

Mr.

Lowry, how do you vote?

Yes, Johnson.

Yes, Mr.

Green?

Yes.

Slowery.

Yes.

Items approved unanimously four to zero.

I number 10 C is next.

Consideration of resolution 2555.

It's a resolution updating the Draper City tree guide to reflect tree species, firewise practices, and other best practices.

Mr.

Red Ogden, go ahead, sir.

Thank you, Mayor.

Council.

Try and be quick.

This is riveting stuff.

These tree guide changes.

It's been quite a while since we've done it.

Um I had a red line copy in your packet, but in general, just to make you aware of what's being requested.

Our tree committee has put quite a bit of time into this, especially in some of the subcommittees.

So thanks to Michelle and Janet and their subcommittee.

But there's been some trees, some species that have been removed from park strip, some that have been added, and that's just based on how they do here in Draper and Draper Soils and Conditions or other issues.

And you know, they were categorized by the park strip size.

It was some organizing and make them easier to find by alphabetizing stuff like that, and then some adding some firewise stuff.

So I'll just run through the changes real quick so that you can try and make heads or toes of it.

They're all categori categorized in our code, you know, five foot, ten foot or twenty-foot park strips.

So in the five foot park strips, this would be beneath power lines.

Simply just change the name from Peking lilac to Chinese lilac, and then we added those three on the right hand side that are all maples.

So those would all be allowed to be planted in a five-foot park strip that's beneath power lines.

This will be a five foot without power lines, so a little more options.

Again, if it's in red, it's just changing the species of maple.

Box elder gets confusing.

Some people think it's box elder or maple, but it's uh sensation maple.

Um just changed some of the names of those that were already in the tree guide.

Uh like you can see it took took out Japanese El Coba just be known as Zilkova.

We plant a lot of Zilkovas in Draper, but then we also added those four on the right hand side, the the hedge maple, sunset maple to Hawthorne and the Linden.

So those would be elevated.

I don't see anywhere where you plant the Siberian elm trees in the park strip.

We don't plant them, but we should grow them.

Well that's right.

They plant themselves in every park strip.

Yes, but no, you will not find those on our list.

And again, now we're just in the 10-foot park strips without power lines, remove several of them.

Um you'll notice the burr oak that was taken out of the five foot is now found in the 10 foot, so you gotta have at least a 10 foot park strip to plant a burr oak.

And part of this was for sidewalk heaving and and stuff like that to eliminate some problems.

Um this one is for uh the 20-foot one.

We remove several of these or updated like Colorado spruce is still allowed, but just clarify that as the Colorado Bruce Boost, and then several others that are now added in a 20-foot park strip.

Uh pines and so and if you ask me what all these are, I don't have a clue, Mayor, but our tree committee does.

And then uh lastly, we did dive in more into the basically what you'd find in Suncrest area or those above 5,000 feet.

Took all of those out and just said that they need to fire need to follow the firewise landscaping principles, and we have that on our web page, or if they're beneath the power lines and above that, they just need to be ones that don't grow 25 feet.

You got a little more in-depth for those if you have a five-foot park strip, which some do in in Suncrest.

Um did get a little bit more options to grow up there, like the service berry.

We plant a lot of service berries in those areas, and then again in uh 10 feet up above 5,000 feet, a few more options for those residents as well.

That's uh about it.

It was mostly just taking a few away and adding some that grow well in Draper and again.

I was just uh at the request of our tree committee and their their research and their knowledge of of trees and what works well in Draper and what doesn't, and that's the resolution before you.

If I can have had answering questions, happy to hold Bill Colbert to be happy to see that gamble oak forever memorialized in the code with his name on it or something.

You love that name, yeah.

Indeed.

Any questions for Mr.

Ogden?

All right, is there a motion?

I'll make a motion to approve resolution 25-55.

All right, motion by Miss Lowry.

Is there a second?

I'll second.

Second by Miss Johnson.

Further discussion?

Seeing none, Miss Lowry.

How do you vote?

Yes, Johnson?

Yes, Mr.

Green, yes, Mr.

Lowry.

Yes.

Items approved unanimously four to zero.

That takes us to item number 11, unless there's other business.

Any other business by anyone?

Is there a motion to adjourn?

So moved.

Ah, motion by Ms.

Johnson.

Second.

Second by Massari.

All in favor of adjourning, say aye.

Nay.

Any opposed?

One.

No.

The eyes have it.

We are adjourned.

Oh trying to make you vote, Troy.

Go get my big gavel.

Sorry.

You need that big mouth.

For the record, I vote to adjourn should there have been a tie.

I said no.

I said no.