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Draper Historic Preservation Commission Meeting Summary - November 19, 2025

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DateWednesday, November 19, 2025
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0:01

Tell us about it.

0:01

Give you leeway.

0:04

Okay, we're recording you.

0:05

Uh no, um I can show you the link I sent Jason earlier.

0:12

Yeah, I didn't do that, yeah.

0:14

Okay.

0:15

Okay.

0:16

Okay.

0:17

Uh welcome everyone to the historic preservation commission meeting.

0:22

Uh it's Wednesday, November 19th, uh 6.05 p.m.

0:28

We're gonna go ahead and get started.

0:30

Um I'll start with roll call.

0:32

Um I'm Krista Hutcheson.

0:34

Elizabeth Allen.

0:35

Melissa Day, Jordan Putnam, David Hale, Corina Pace.

0:41

Jennifer Shepsky.

0:42

Jason Wiggins.

0:44

Okay.

0:44

Um did everybody get a chance to look at the minutes of the last meeting.

0:49

Yes.

0:50

Okay.

0:51

Uh is anyone have changes to it to them?

0:55

No.

0:55

No.

0:56

I move that we approved the minutes.

0:58

Can I get a second?

0:59

Second.

0:59

Okay, all those in favor?

1:02

Okay.

1:03

Um, minutes are approved.

1:06

Uh the first item on the agenda is the Draper Historical Society coordination for Angie, but Angie's not here, so yeah, and he's not here.

1:20

Um did send uh send me an email.

1:25

Um so she wants to set up another day to help with the inventory of the historical society.

1:33

So she asks if you're interested in that to send her a text or an email.

1:40

And she'll work towards figuring out a date on that.

1:47

Okay.

1:52

The uh next item on the agenda is the approval of the 2026 draft meeting schedule.

1:59

Um meeting schedule um is you know the third Wednesday of every month with the exception of July and December and canceling those meetings.

2:18

That's pretty much what we've done for this year.

2:21

Um I don't know if anybody has any changes or no.

2:27

So everybody's okay.

2:28

Okay, so we need a motion for that.

2:30

Okay.

2:31

Can I get a motion to approve the 2026 uh committee draft meeting schedule?

2:37

Motion to approve.

2:43

Jordan Jordan.

2:44

All those in favor.

2:46

It was um okay, awesome.

2:53

Uh next item on the agenda is the oral history grant opportunity, which was attached to the minutes.

3:02

Or the email that had the minutes in it.

3:05

Yeah, and I honestly haven't had a chance to really read through this, so I hope you guys did.

3:11

Um but uh so the the city has uh a consultant we work with that uh looks at potential grants um and funding sources that the city can apply for.

3:23

This is one that they flagged.

3:24

Kelly emailed it over to me.

3:27

Um so it's a grant in order to help help uh with oral histories.

3:37

Um if you guys are interested, um our consultant can help write the grant.

3:45

Annie also said she's happy to help write the grant.

3:50

Um request there is um let's see the deadline.

4:00

I think we I think we have a little bit of time.

4:03

It's at the top of the top paragraph.

4:06

Okay, depending upon when we wanted to start.

4:08

Okay.

4:13

Okay, so yeah, so um March was gonna be basically kind of the first deadline for a 12-month period, but it's a three thousand dollar um grant.

4:26

Um there's a 50% match, yeah.

4:35

So um with that, um let me look at my budget.

4:42

I mean, for until Jul for July, um up through July, because we're doing the reconnaissance level survey, I don't think we have the funds to do the match after July.

4:58

We could potentially have the funds.

5:00

I have a question.

5:01

Is this something that'd be more of the historic society?

5:04

And could their money be the one?

5:06

Because I know they say they have money and they don't know what to do with it.

5:10

Yes.

5:10

Yeah.

5:12

Okay.

5:12

Yeah.

5:13

Okay.

5:15

Yeah.

5:16

It's if they have the resources to apply for the grant, then would that be the other question?

5:20

You mean the money?

5:21

No, like the expertise.

5:23

People actually have to write the write the grant.

5:25

I don't know.

5:26

I think we could probably use the city's consultant.

5:30

Okay.

5:30

Is there to help the charge associated with that?

5:34

Um city has a consultant to help us write grants.

5:38

Oh, okay.

5:39

So yes, we're paying them.

5:41

I don't know what it's like.

5:47

Could there be a uh contingency around the video home tours that could be covered under the oral history type grant?

5:59

I mean, I don't think I'm I'm I'm imagining the circumstance similar to when Paul um contributed to the last um the video that we did where there was um you know significant oral history captured in in that video.

6:18

And then there have been a couple of others that I would say we you know you could you could count that to strip the video out.

6:25

You could call that a an oral history.

6:28

Well, it just says digital recording.

6:32

So we yeah, I'm not trying to bend it, but I'm just wondering if that could be another supplemental source of of funding to to do more of those.

6:44

I'm sorry, I didn't read it.

6:46

I'm not sure.

6:46

No, I don't know.

6:48

I didn't read it.

6:48

I think well, yeah, I think it'd be good, especially like how we did that one, and Paul was there who's actually related to the person who owned the house and could give those histories.

6:57

So somehow getting people that you know have know even more history beyond.

7:02

Well, I think it's a case of establishing what the priority is because we you know we could go in either direction, but we had talked about we have no oral history to pull from it all, and we had talked about that as a project potentially.

7:18

Sure.

7:18

So this could cover a bit of that, or we and the historical society could go that direction, or we could try and see and apply for it ourselves towards the video.

7:29

Yeah, I what I was thinking too is they have all those ones, what on CDs or whatever over there to use some of this to get it into digitize.

7:38

That seems like a more reasonable.

7:43

Okay, I didn't realize they had something.

7:44

Yeah, they have a whole bunch of sitting there that somehow get them over like to the city side.

7:51

On an old computer on a spinner hard drive.

8:01

Well, here's the thing.

8:03

That's a great idea.

8:06

But like products that are required, um, permission release for an each person interviewed.

8:11

Not all those people are alive anymore.

8:13

Right.

8:15

Um so I I photographs of informants.

8:20

Um I I don't know there must be a work around.

8:26

Yeah, maybe the consultant.

8:27

Yeah.

8:28

Yeah.

8:28

Yeah, that might be a better yeah, for a subject matter expert on applying for grants, but there's a lot of those people at the historical society that work there that need to be interviewed.

8:38

They do have uh Covington who's in her 90s, and we have schools.

8:48

But like if a brand new interview going forward could absolutely fall under the purview of this grant.

8:54

So it would just we just have to decide what's most important.

8:58

Yeah.

8:58

Yeah, we probably need to talk to the historical society people for them and how or most people see maybe we could help them or something, but yeah, well, I know they have money to be captured now.

9:10

Yeah, and when I sat in their meetings, they talk about we have money, but we don't know what to do with it.

9:17

Um well maybe what I'll I'll do is going to their next meeting.

9:23

Do we know?

9:25

Historical society.

9:26

It's next Monday, right?

9:29

I think so.

9:30

I think isn't that Angie?

9:31

I won't be able to coordinate that, but somebody could go.

9:34

Okay.

9:34

Well, what I'll do is maybe I'll send it email with with this document to Angie, and um I think I've got a Lynn's email as well.

9:46

Um actually I think I can go to the meeting next Monday.

9:50

Okay, so maybe I'll C C E when you can quite.

9:52

Okay, and just bring this to them and talk to them.

9:54

Yeah, and see if they're they're interested.

9:56

I mean, if they have the funds, then I I think it makes more sense for them to do it.

10:01

Yeah, um, and we can you know help them.

10:04

Yeah, but if they can get some of those um or old mysteries, I think that'd be that'd be great.

10:10

Yeah.

10:10

I think it's probably gonna have to have the closed caption and you know, all of that stuff with it.

10:23

Okay, are we good to move on?

10:25

I think so.

10:26

Okay.

10:27

Um we're at 3D on the agenda, which is demolition permits, storage and organization.

10:34

Yeah, and and use Yeah, Angie was gonna talk about this.

10:38

Um, I think I kind of want to uh bump into the next one, but her concern was kind of uh getting getting everything on the cloud and having a discussion of when those should be brought to the overall commission.

10:56

Um right now, excuse me, right now when we get a demolition permit, um it gets forwarded to Karina and Annie.

11:06

Um they took take a I'm on there too.

11:08

And you're on there too, can and they take a look at it, see if it's got any architectural and tech, you know, integrity, historical uh um integrity that is of interest.

11:21

If not, then they just sign off, return it to the city, we issue the demo permit after they meet all the other stuff they have to do, and the building's gone.

11:31

Um there have been a couple where we've asked for additional images to help document the the structure, and I did upload those into the cloud, um, so you guys can all access that.

11:45

Um, but I I think Annie's kind of looking more for a set kind of process and then also a discussion of when you guys actually want to see them.

11:55

Yeah, because I was wondering because I know that Annie said she signed on from like 27 of them recently.

12:00

But I thought in the past that we talked about them in the So we talked about them when they had when they were significant.

12:09

Yes.

12:09

Oh, okay.

12:10

Yeah, so if it was those ones were not yeah, yeah, yeah.

12:13

I know because I don't know why, but I have people call me and say, Did or text me, did you see this building being torn down?

12:20

Did you know anything about it?

12:21

I'm like, no, I had no idea.

12:22

Yeah, yeah.

12:23

So if it's if it's not historically significant, then we just you know, they can sign it, yeah.

12:32

They can tear it down.

12:33

Um and honestly, um when they when the contractors apply for those demo permits, they've already started messing with the inside.

12:46

It's it's already a disaster.

12:48

The one on uh 122 and uh 8 east, that house that was torn down uh last month.

12:58

He um the owner let uh the fire, no the police department do training in there.

13:03

That was a weird and um didn't bother applying for the demo permit till after the train training was done, so the house was completely just destroyed.

13:14

Yeah, and and it was an old enough house that we did want information on.

13:19

He ended up working contacting the sellers that he had bought the property from and getting the original pictures from the listing.

13:28

Um so we do have the before pictures on the inside.

13:38

Maybe yeah, um, but you know, so we so we do run into issues like that, um, or they you know they're on site ready to go and they they're waiting for their permit.

13:55

Um so bringing all of them to you guys is not needed, but also would be a bit difficult.

14:02

Um but for the ones that are historically significant, we do have the authority to um postpone the issuance of a demo permit for I think up to 45 days to allow for documentation.

14:16

Um so the what the done in house on port I got torn down.

14:21

We had the contractor come in um and he provided information, he provided pictures, um he met with you guys.

14:30

Um we got documentation on the home before it was torn down, um done that kind of thing.

14:36

So all is there a lot more being torn down right now.

14:43

Well, there's always uh honestly any time a historic structure goes on the market.

14:49

I'm always I'm always the first to like check this one out.

14:54

Yeah, yeah.

14:56

And sometimes people come talk to me at the counter and I'll shoot you an email that says we may be getting a demo permit on this one.

15:03

So start looking at into it now.

15:05

Okay.

15:06

That's a lot of work.

15:07

It's a lot of work.

15:08

Like sometimes there's like one uh like 24 hour turning around it.

15:11

It's just there's plenty of things to look into.

15:15

And but under code they don't really get a 24-hour turn yeah, turn around a day.

15:22

You know, so if you need more time, but um they're usually like they've already got the equipment on the sign by sign, yeah, by the time they even apply for it.

15:32

So they're the in you know, the contractor's mind they should be able to just go.

15:37

Um so I see that.

15:39

But if it if it is a historically significant structure, we we want to take that time.

15:46

Um, you know, I've already told um Dice the owners who purchased the iceberg property that that demo permit will take time to get because we will want to document it.

15:58

Um Edge homes with their project there by the Kimball station when they come in to tear down Lynn Kimball's house.

16:06

I've already told them that's gonna take time because we're gonna want to document that structure.

16:11

Um so when when I can I I warn them warn them.

16:15

Um so you know, hopefully those ones they're they're well aware and we'll get those applications or notification beforehand.

16:24

Um but you know, we can we can't stop the demo, all we can do is postpone it for a little bit while we get additional information and we document them for the structure.

16:35

I do have some pictures of the iceberg inside and out, I do okay.

16:41

So that's another thing.

16:43

I need to be able to to store them for you so much.

16:46

Yeah, they're just in my email.

16:47

Um do you want to put them on the cloud?

16:50

Yeah, I do.

16:50

Yeah, yeah.

16:51

I think that'll be good.

16:52

Yeah, okay.

16:53

Because then I can get them down and put them on the city servers so we have a copy of it, um, but then everybody else can access them.

17:03

And to get to the cloud, we do want to just get on the website.

17:07

Yeah, I'll send you the website.

17:08

Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.

17:10

Um, yeah, so I'll I'll probably put this on for the next agenda as well, and we can get Annie's uh input and kind of and discuss a bit more.

17:23

Yeah, so okay.

17:28

Um next item on the agenda 3E, the American 250 participation.

17:34

Um we can you guys can also discuss ideas and options next Tuesday.

17:44

The city council will have the ordinance um on their agenda to approve to uh approve Draper City being part of the Utah 250, you know, thing.

17:57

Um so we the city will get what $1,500 I think towards events, I know our uh events coordinators already thinking of different things the city can do.

18:10

Um I know in the past the commission's talked about different different things, so I I think Wendy kind of want to go over things, but we can just continue to January if we or if you guys want to kind of talk about some different ideas.

18:32

They have to, yeah.

18:33

Yeah, um I will have to ask about that because I don't know what they've decided they're doing with that.

18:40

Okay, because they floated around to the idea of seeing if there's people on other committees who want to participate, they may just ask for volunteers.

18:51

I just don't know.

18:52

Okay, so I'll influence.

18:54

I think it may make sense to have some cross-functionality with yeah, with our commission for sure.

18:59

Uh I was gonna volunteer for that without knowing what the time commitment is, but it's important to me.

19:13

Okay, but yeah, so I guess TBD, or unless you guys want to discuss I think getting that information on the commission and like getting city council approving it first makes sense, and then next time we can see if we're how involved are we are versus the other commission.

19:36

Yeah, okay.

19:42

Okay, um 3F Juneteenth events, yeah.

19:46

Um Wendy on this one as well since she's not here.

19:53

Um she said I wanted to ask the group about creating something to recognize the enslaved people of Draper.

20:00

We know there was one slave holding family among the early settlers.

20:05

I'm wondering what we could do to recognize this history.

20:09

Um, and this is something also we can just kind of talk about ideas and put it on future agendas, but that's kind of what her her thoughts are and why she asked for it to be on the agenda.

20:23

Is there is there something that the commission can look at doing during June 18th?

20:30

Is there any possibility that you could help us with an article that might appear in the journal?

20:36

She can't talk.

20:37

She's not on the agenda.

20:38

She can't talk.

20:41

Um afterward, maybe is there a way um to find out like what other cities have been?

20:47

I mean, I don't know, that feels like a good starting point.

20:52

Well, Wendy and myself have collected, especially Wendy has collected quite a bit of information about the enslaved people here in Draper.

21:00

Yeah.

21:01

And I I agree with Wendy.

21:04

I think it's important to mark that, but just trying to figure out the method that's doable.

21:10

So do we do we put the plaque somewhere?

21:14

Do we uh ask the city council to make a proclamation?

21:19

Or like what if what have other cities done to kind of give us an idea?

21:23

Yeah, I think it's a good idea to find some ideas, but uh, I think of all those things you said, but and possibly an article in the journal.

21:30

That's what I was doing.

21:32

Yeah, yeah.

21:33

Most people have no idea that there were slaves here in Draper.

21:38

Yeah, a little blurb just saying this is why we remember, you know, that you know these things were happening in our community as well.

21:45

And they were uh slaves with very prominent people in Draper.

21:50

Yeah, I think they're probably and maybe that's a place where the commission can kind of feed in is to help kind of write some of that language around that.

21:57

Yeah, and that yeah, and I can get with um Linda.

22:01

I think yeah, I'd have to go through her for that.

22:05

But yeah, there's even some good photographs of some of them.

22:23

Okay, um next 3G, the walking tour brochures.

22:30

Okay, so I haven't gotten any new places, but I have uh refer uh replenished the uh grochers at places we've already established.

22:40

There's places where they seem to move, the library is one of them.

22:43

Uh I just put some out here, they seem to move pretty good too.

22:47

So I don't have any new places, but I have been out and uh replenish the brochure.

22:55

Okay, and Dave, I um in October you got the uh new holders.

23:02

I didn't print out any stickers because that and I didn't know whether you need some, so I printed some out.

23:08

Oh, I still have some before, but yeah, I'll I'll grab them before you leave.

23:13

Okay, thank you.

23:14

Because I kind of realized afterwards, like I don't know if you have them or need them, so I I've got some more printed out.

23:22

So by next time I will have a lot of them distributed because they're in my garage, and I need to get them out of my garage so I can park my car.

23:34

They're not that big.

23:37

Well, I have all those brochures.

23:40

I have the display little display unit.

23:44

So moving on to the next item, three H Native American recognition next steps.

23:58

Um do you say anything about that?

24:01

I think we should uh continue on to the next meeting.

24:04

Um she didn't provide me any information or something.

24:09

Then the next item three, Draper ethnic and minority history research.

24:14

Okay, I have some made some progress.

24:16

So I met with uh Lynn and with Anne and the Historical Society Library, and uh they have we've come up with some good information about two early Italian families in um in Draper.

24:33

The Bernardo B-E-R-N-A-R-D-O family was Italians, and they were uh they came from Italy to not first, they went other places like the but um they went to other places in the United States before they came to Salt Lake, but uh so there was the Bernardo family that was Italian, and there's the Fratto, F R A T T O family that came, and it's interesting that one of the Bernardo daughters married one of the Fratos, which isn't uncommon that you know that the group stayed together.

25:00

But uh so there was the Bernardo family that was Italian, and there's the Fratto, F R A T T O family that came, and it's interesting that one of the Bernardo daughters married one of the Fratos, which isn't uncommon that you know the group stayed together.

25:13

But there's a lot more to explore.

25:14

The Fratos had a go farm up in uh Corner Canyon.

25:21

I haven't been able to find out exactly where Cherry Creek is, but it was around Cherry Creek.

25:26

It's quite far off on the mountain, and there's a there was a natural spring that came.

25:32

And they had at one time as many as 600 goats.

25:36

And they made their living by making um cheese from the goat milk and uh peddling it in the valley.

25:46

And uh so anyway, I have some leads on uh both of those families, and we'll be continuing to pursue that, but I think that's and uh the the big posterity the uh um for auto family, they had 10 children so I'll be continuing to be pursuing that, but I did get some a good start on that.

26:11

Nice two early Italian families and uh Draper Cherry Creek's still there.

26:20

Um that canyon that Cherry Creek runs through, it's been utilized for hunting as well as um material for houses and stuff from early pioneer history.

26:32

So I I can show you on the map, maybe offline and I can show you where that where that is.

26:39

Um also there's uh uh a Utah geological survey uh link where you can look at um aerial photos dating back to I think I want to say some of them date really early.

26:55

I can't remember exactly how far back, but you can get a sense for what that land looked like before before it was developed.

27:02

So if you're curious, I can point you to those land resources as well.

27:06

Yeah.

27:07

What is that called?

27:09

Um it's it it there's for the cherry Cherry Creek.

27:12

Yeah, is that what you're talking about?

27:14

You said Utah Utah Geological Society has a page that has aerial maps, historic aerial maps.

27:25

And I can I I it'd take me a minute to find the link, but yeah, yeah.

27:30

How far up Corner Canyon is it?

27:32

Because they thought it was a little bit of a few.

27:34

Um not in so if here's here's the the mountain, and here's where the the stitches are, the big erosion band with the you know we've cut you know sections to keep the slope intact.

27:49

Cherry Canyon's off to the left of that.

27:51

So from the big suspension bridge, Cherry Canyons over to the right of the suspension bridge a little ways.

28:00

There you go.

28:02

Um I'm not sure if I'm gonna be able to orient.

28:06

So there's the so that's Bear Canyon, and I think this is Cherry here.

28:12

Yeah, okay.

28:17

Well, I hope you pursue out more about you know their goat, cheese production and things and with ten kids around.

28:25

Ten kids there should be somebody around it in the family that must have some photos and things like that.

28:31

Yeah, it's interesting.

28:31

A lot of those drainages is are where early settlers kind of set up things like that, and so a lot of the development and agriculture as well as sheep and grazing were were around those drainages.

28:46

Corner Canyon was one, but then there was also Bear Canyon, Cherry, and a few others.

28:51

Thank you.

28:55

Okay, uh moving on to the next item 3J, the walkthrough video of historic homes.

29:01

So um we are going to be talking to the owners of the house next to the Draper Start Theater in March and get a video between that March and June.

29:14

So that's our next one.

29:15

And also, I don't know if I can mention this here, but it appears that the tiding house is gone from behind that county house.

29:23

Oh no.

29:24

I've driven by several times and looked and I can't see it back there.

29:28

I haven't stopped to ask them, but it looks like it's gone.

29:32

Um I had um I got with one of my building inspectors to go out and see.

29:40

Um I did not get a chance to double check about to see if it was there.

29:44

Yeah, just if they download it.

29:47

Um they did not get any permits to demo it.

29:51

They did.

29:51

Yeah.

29:52

Um, so um, yeah, so I've got on one because they have an older looking building that was would have been in front of it, and it's still there.

30:00

Okay.

30:01

So that I thought that was yeah, so I'll I'll have to double check and I'll I'll let you guys know.

30:09

Okay.

30:10

Um what's next?

30:12

Oh, sorry.

30:15

Okay, 3K, the house tour update.

30:18

Okay, yeah.

30:19

So we have the pictures.

30:21

I downloaded the pictures from the tour.

30:23

Looks like the house is absolutely making that.

30:25

I thought I wasn't there.

30:27

It was very, very interesting.

30:29

Yeah, wow.

30:31

Um, so I'll just kinda uh and this is the original fireplace.

30:41

And she found out her brother has another home, historical home, and that he had the very same fireplace, and they found out that their grandfather was the one who built the fireplace.

30:56

That's crazy.

30:57

And the the tiles above, the one in the middle is worth like thirty-five hundred dollars, and each of them on the side are worth $1,500.

31:06

The tiles under there.

31:07

And that's the original fireplace.

31:09

Yeah.

31:09

Wow.

31:11

It's just a charming place.

31:13

Yeah.

31:17

That's the sunroom over on the right with the stripes.

31:21

That's the only original fixture in the house.

31:24

Because it sat empty between what was it?

31:30

Sat empty for about three years and people got in.

31:34

Yeah.

31:36

That's the sun name stuff.

31:40

I mean look at the arches on there.

31:43

What did they say those words?

31:44

I forgot the name of them.

31:46

I don't remember.

31:47

Yeah, some type type of name.

31:49

I thought those were really pretty.

31:51

And the ceiling is original too.

31:53

The people that had the house before, what's her name, Dina?

31:57

Yeah, Dina.

31:58

I had it why they had put it in a false ceiling.

32:01

The nickname cell wasn't so high.

32:03

But then she there was the next owners restored it and had the original ceiling.

32:10

Well, maybe the drop ceiling preserved the original classroom.

32:14

Yeah, no, right.

32:15

And all those handles were oh that's just some storage on the side.

32:21

Is that that bedroom?

32:22

Is that the bedroom?

32:24

Yeah, one of the bedrooms.

32:25

This is the downstairs bathroom.

32:27

I love that.

32:28

I know the tile is beautiful.

32:31

And that lily.

32:32

That's gorgeous.

32:33

Yeah.

32:34

And they have a chandelier in that bathroom too.

32:39

Oh, that's so fun.

32:40

That's awesome.

32:40

It's very tastefully decorated.

32:42

Very small stairs going up.

32:44

Very steep.

32:45

Yeah, but that makes sense.

32:47

It's a bedroom.

32:48

But and those are the closets that they have on both sides.

32:53

And the way they did the door on that one is thick.

32:58

Oh, that's so cool.

33:01

Is the bed, yeah, the bedroom upstairs.

33:04

There's just one bedroom upstairs.

33:07

There used to be two, but they expanded.

33:08

And she tried to copy the the um design of the tile downstairs bathroom and the upstairs one.

33:18

And that we thought it was really pretty how she put those pictures up there in the above the stairway.

33:23

Staircase there is unbelievable though.

33:25

It's just a little really really little stairs.

33:28

Yeah, that's like the one that we went to on Relations Street too.

33:32

Remember how narrow that was getting?

33:34

Oh yeah, yeah, that was the kitchen's really beautiful that she has.

33:42

And the glass tile on the back splash.

33:44

I believe she put it in, didn't she?

33:46

No, that that was put in later.

33:48

Yeah.

33:50

Oh, it's beautiful.

33:51

This is a downstairs, a very low ceiling.

33:55

That's one of the place.

33:56

And the laundry room.

33:57

And there was a chute from the top, that one covered there that went down to the laundry room.

34:02

I love it.

34:05

And the very tiny bathroom down there.

34:06

She just barely recarpeted the week before.

34:09

The carpet was really nice.

34:11

This is the old garage.

34:14

The original garage that she turned it into a like a gym thing.

34:18

That's cool.

34:21

And her little work room there.

34:25

And her backyard pond.

34:27

That's really fish in the pond and stuff.

34:29

Did she have dish in there?

34:31

Um I don't think so.

34:33

No, yeah.

34:35

No, I saw her today at the historical center.

34:40

She volunteers there.

34:42

And she said that in the spring, she has a thousand aliens that come up.

34:51

Oh wow.

34:52

She's got at least a thousand.

34:55

She was hoping that we're hoping to have her on the pond tour then this year in August.

35:01

Lots of leaves everywhere.

35:07

What a heck of a time to get sick.

35:09

Gosh dang, we didn't know that is so amazing.

35:11

Yeah.

35:12

Oh, and she added that garage.

35:14

Didn't she add the Japanese?

35:16

No, she she changed the roof.

35:18

It was like cinder block.

35:20

And she pitched the roof higher than it was to kind of go more with the house.

35:28

And bricked the front.

35:30

Looks like that.

35:30

Yeah, and that's the match.

35:32

Yeah.

35:32

That's cool.

35:34

Yeah.

35:34

And that's the word of the original broad place.

35:40

And I love the brick that's on the outside.

35:42

The colors and then the design in the bottom.

35:44

That's amazing.

35:45

Yeah.

35:47

And she did put in the gas uh fireplace, yeah.

35:51

So it didn't have things coming out.

35:55

Yeah.

35:58

Wow.

35:59

So her great grandfather did fireplaces and tile work around the valley.

36:04

Wow.

36:05

That's amazing that she ended up with the house and added in it instead of so cool.

36:10

Yeah.

36:13

Yeah.

36:15

Um, Annie said so the homeowner's interested in being on the National Register.

36:32

Um is interested in being on the National Register.

36:35

Um so I know uh the Beaners have been wanting to get on the National Register.

36:49

Um and I kind of I opened up this year's budget and next year's budget, kind of messed around with some stuff.

36:57

I mean I had pr we had previously penciled in the Isaac Stewart house, um, and then penciled in um a video tour of the are those Fitzgerald house for next year.

37:14

Yeah for well we originally did it for this year because we were hoping to do it, but now they're doing that renovation.

37:19

Yeah, so I moved it to next year.

37:21

Okay, okay.

37:22

Figured we wouldn't get any plaques done um for till next year anyway, even if we did registration.

37:32

So looking at potentially doing the registration for the house on Pioneer, we don't quite have the funds to do that.

37:41

Um so but it may be we go back and say we'll fund half of it, and if you'll fund the other half towards registry, yeah, if you want to do it now, or you're gonna have to wait for another uh fiscal year.

38:01

So could you ask like the Isaac Stewart if they want to do it right away?

38:05

Yeah, okay.

38:06

If you want to fund it themselves, yeah, they can fully fund it themselves too.

38:10

Oh, okay.

38:11

Um I think it was what Salt Lake doesn't pay for any of them.

38:16

Um so really us paying for it is kind of a benefit for and to encourage people to put their properties on the register.

38:27

Um but if she wants um and it and frankly, I I think we've been talking to the owners by the Stewart House for a while.

38:36

Yeah, I I I think we move forward with theirs okay double check that they they want to move forward first.

38:42

Um and then for the house on pioneer, we can we can tell her we could fund half of it, and you can fund the other half or wait, or wait.

38:51

Okay, yeah.

38:52

Because we just don't have the funds to do it all.

38:58

So that was a wonderful experience to see the half and what she's done with it, and all original things that are still there.

39:15

Do we have to do uh motion on that or um yeah, that one hurt, um, and then really it'll be the conversations with the two property owners to see what they want to do.

39:31

Okay, yeah.

39:32

Can we do it in the same motion?

39:34

Yes, yeah, okay.

39:36

Do I have a motion to fully fund the Isaac Stewart House nomination and fund the Pioneer Street House 50% for the of the nomination?

39:50

What you said, okay.

39:53

All in favor, uh was it created in the second note?

39:57

Yeah, okay.

40:00

Okay.

40:02

And then who's gonna have those conversations?

40:07

Um I think Annie was gonna reach out back out to the donor of the pioneer house.

40:13

Nancy, you've kind of been dealing with it.

40:15

She actually was talking to the Isaac Stewart.

40:18

Are you talking about it?

40:18

Oh, Isaac Stewart.

40:19

Yeah, oh yeah.

40:20

Annie has.

40:21

Okay.

40:22

Um, so we'll have Annie do it.

40:29

Okay.

40:30

We'll have her to call the okay.

40:33

Um next item 3L, the NS Auto Plaque update.

40:38

I just wanted to give you guys an update.

40:40

Um they were fine with the change.

40:44

Um Wendy's change.

40:46

Yeah.

40:47

Wendy, yeah.

40:48

I can't remember his change.

40:50

Um, so this is the final language.

40:52

We've put in the order.

40:54

I'll let you know when it arrives.

40:56

And then we can uh give it to NS Auto to um get put up or help them put it on if they need help, but yeah.

41:08

So I'll I'll let you know.

41:09

Awesome.

41:11

I have a question.

41:12

Okay.

41:13

Where are we with the window maker plan?

41:17

Not on the agenda.

41:19

Not on the agenda.

41:20

Stay tuned.

41:21

How about that?

41:22

Yeah, so we are um in communication with the county right now um options for for the plaque.

41:31

Um we're working to set up a meeting with them.

41:35

So I hope to put it on for January.

41:38

Um had we gotten that email last week, I probably would have had it on the agenda for this.

41:44

That's my ad.

41:45

It took me a while to find a lot, but yeah.

41:48

He when I got back into town, I I emailed them.

41:51

Oh, you just like I emailed them, was like, let me, you know, include me on your responses, that kind of thing.

41:57

And I didn't hear you know anything.

41:59

So um, so I'll put it on for January for a full update.

42:04

Hopefully, by then we will have had our meeting with them and we'll probably even more to and you'll hear me give my offer a pound of flush for not anticipating this little bit of shenanigans.

42:15

We something we should have yeah, so um, but yeah, we'll uh report that okay.

42:28

Um next item is uh review action items for the next meeting.

42:36

Okay, um, I have that I will reach out to Kelly on the America 250 commission and find out what the council's planning on doing for that.

42:46

Um coordinate with Andre on the Historical Society meeting and um bring up the oral histories grant.

42:56

Um reach out to the owners of the Isaac Stewart House and the Home On Pioneer to see about the National Register nominations, and then um I have no name attached to this one, but find out what other cities are doing for Juneteenth.

43:14

Um I don't know if we want to assign that to Wendy since it was her idea, or if somebody else wants to kind of see what um historic preservation commissions, historical societies are doing in the different cities.

43:28

It'd be good to have her do that.

43:30

And then I'll report on the walking tour grocers and uh ethnic research.

43:41

Okay.

43:51

Okay.

43:53

Okay.

43:55

Um can I have a motion to adjourn?

44:00

I so move that we adjourn.

44:02

Can I have a second?

44:03

Second.

44:05

All in favor?

44:07

All right, we're adjourned at 640 now.

44:09

Okay.

44:11

Let me end the recordings.

44:18

Yeah,

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Summary of Proceedings

Draper Historic Preservation Commission Meeting - November 19, 2025

The Draper Historic Preservation Commission convened on Wednesday, November 19, 2025, at 6:05 p.m. to review upcoming schedules, discuss grant opportunities, streamline demolition permit processes, and plan historical recognition events. Key topics included the approval of the 2026 meeting schedule, exploration of an oral history grant, updates on demolition documentation procedures, and strategic discussions regarding National Register nominations and Juneteenth commemorations.

Consent Calendar

  • Minutes from the previous meeting were reviewed; no changes were requested.
  • The 2026 draft meeting schedule (third Wednesdays, excluding July and December) was approved unanimously.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • No public comments or testimony were recorded on the transcript.

Discussion Items

Oral History Grant Opportunity

  • The commission discussed a $3,000 grant requiring a 50% match, intended for oral history projects.
  • The city has a consultant available to assist in writing the grant.
  • Members debated whether the Historical Society should lead the application using their existing funds versus the city applying independently.
  • Concerns were raised regarding the existing physical archives (CDs/hard drives) and the legal difficulty of obtaining permission releases for deceased informants; however, it was agreed that new interviews would fall under the grant's purview.
  • The group decided to coordinate with the Historical Society at their upcoming Monday meeting to determine the best path forward.

Demolition Permits, Storage, and Organization

  • The commission discussed current protocols where staff (Annie and Karina) review permits for historical integrity. Non-significant structures are signed off without full commission review.
  • Members noted that contractors often delay permit applications until demolition is well underway, sometimes destroying significant structures before review.
  • The commission affirmed its authority to postpone permit issuance for up to 45 days to allow for documentation of historically significant structures.
  • It was agreed that high-profile demolition applications (e.g., the Iceberg property, Lynn Kimball's house) should be flagged early, and all associated documentation photos should be uploaded to the city cloud for shared access.

American 250 Participation

  • The city will receive $1,500 for events as part of the Utah 250 celebration.
  • The commission acknowledged the need for cross-functionality with the city council, which is expected to approve the participation ordinance soon.
  • Members volunteered to participate once the scope of involvement is determined.

Juneteenth Events (3F)

  • The commission discussed creating recognition for the enslaved people of Draper, specifically acknowledging the one slave-holding family among early settlers.
  • Ideas proposed included creating a plaque, a city council proclamation, or an article in the city journal.
  • Members agreed it is vital to inform the public of this history and tasked staff with researching how other cities have handled similar commemorations.

Draper Ethnic and Minority History Research

  • Updates were provided on research into two early Italian families: the Bernardos and the Frattos.
  • Notable details included the marriage of a Bernardo daughter to a Fratto, the Fratto goat farm in Cherry Creek (producing 600 goats and cheese), and the Auto family's large household of 10 children.
  • Staff identified resources such as Utah Geological Survey aerial photos to visualize the history of the land in Corner Canyon and Cherry Creek.

House Tour Update and National Register Nominations

  • A walkthrough video of a historic home on Pioneer Street was discussed; the current owners are interested in National Register nomination. The home features original fireplaces, tiles, and a restored ceiling.
  • The commission noted insufficient funds to fully fund National Register nominations for both the Isaac Stewart House and the Pioneer Street house this fiscal year.
  • A compromise was proposed to fully fund the Isaac Stewart House nomination and offer a 50% match for the Pioneer Street nomination, contingent on owner funding or waiting for the next fiscal year.

Key Outcomes

  • Approved: 2026 draft meeting schedule.
  • Motion Passed: To fully fund the Isaac Stewart House nomination and offer a 50% match for the Pioneer Street House nomination, pending owner confirmation.
  • Directives Assigned:
    • Staff to contact the Historical Society (Angie) regarding the oral history grant and potential collaboration.
    • Annie to reach out to the owners of the Isaac Stewart House and the Pioneer Street house regarding their interest in nominations and funding options.
    • Staff to research Juneteenth commemoration strategies used by other cities.
    • Staff to upload all demolition permit documentation photos to the city cloud server.
    • Staff to coordinate with the county regarding the NS Auto plaque placement for aJanuary update.
  • Adjournment: Meeting adjourned at 6:40 p.m.

Meeting Transcript

Tell us about it. Give you leeway. Okay, we're recording you. Uh no, um I can show you the link I sent Jason earlier. Yeah, I didn't do that, yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Uh welcome everyone to the historic preservation commission meeting. Uh it's Wednesday, November 19th, uh 6.05 p.m. We're gonna go ahead and get started. Um I'll start with roll call. Um I'm Krista Hutcheson. Elizabeth Allen. Melissa Day, Jordan Putnam, David Hale, Corina Pace. Jennifer Shepsky. Jason Wiggins. Okay. Um did everybody get a chance to look at the minutes of the last meeting. Yes. Okay. Uh is anyone have changes to it to them? No. No. I move that we approved the minutes. Can I get a second? Second. Okay, all those in favor? Okay. Um, minutes are approved. Uh the first item on the agenda is the Draper Historical Society coordination for Angie, but Angie's not here, so yeah, and he's not here. Um did send uh send me an email. Um so she wants to set up another day to help with the inventory of the historical society. So she asks if you're interested in that to send her a text or an email. And she'll work towards figuring out a date on that. Okay. The uh next item on the agenda is the approval of the 2026 draft meeting schedule. Um meeting schedule um is you know the third Wednesday of every month with the exception of July and December and canceling those meetings. That's pretty much what we've done for this year. Um I don't know if anybody has any changes or no. So everybody's okay. Okay, so we need a motion for that. Okay. Can I get a motion to approve the 2026 uh committee draft meeting schedule? Motion to approve. Jordan Jordan. All those in favor. It was um okay, awesome. Uh next item on the agenda is the oral history grant opportunity, which was attached to the minutes. Or the email that had the minutes in it.

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