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Uh that's funny.

It is showing the slides from in there on the recording.

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So that's in here.

Yeah.

Um I mean nobody's running to say they can hear us, so that's good.

I don't see an admin conference.

So your videos recording them and not your laptop screen.

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Runster here.

I'm also doing a recording tours in Sunday.

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So great.

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Yes.

Hello everyone, and welcome to our historic preservation commission meeting.

It's the first of twenty twenty-six.

Today is January twenty-first, twenty twenty-six, and it is six oh seven PM.

Uh we'll start off with a roll call.

Um Annie Bomber.

Elizabeth Allen.

Krista Hutchison.

Maybe anything else.

Wendy at Nancy Nichols.

Jennifer DeSharpsky.

Great.

Um, did everyone get a chance to read the minutes from November 19th, 25?

Yes.

Yes.

Did anyone have any changes?

Okay.

Can I get a motion to approve the minutes from November?

I second.

All in favor.

Fantastic.

Minutes are approved.

That was David and one key.

Starting off, Draper Historical Society Coordination.

Um, we need a new commission member to be the liaison for helping to figure out who's going to those meetings and uh go this month.

Great.

That's helpful.

Um is anybody interested in taking that on to kind of be the person to make sure that someone's always at those meetings and help with the coordination.

I can do it.

Fantastic.

What is that all entail?

Just making sure that someone is always showing up to us.

Angie, did she have a sign up sheet on the cloud?

Yeah, yeah.

She was running a sign up sheet.

So if you just maybe want to start if you can't find that one, start a new sign-up sheet and just um make sure that there's always somebody that will be attending that historical society meeting and the last Monday of the month at eleven at one.

Yeah.

Okay.

Cool.

That's always the trick.

Is it all of the day?

Yeah.

I don't know if I can take work off.

We'll see.

Yeah, I'll be going for this year.

Okay.

Yeah.

Great.

Perfect.

That'll give you at least almost a month buffer to figure things out.

And it may um, you know, if you can't get off, well, the sign up sheets.

The idea is multiple people are calling and that kind of thing.

So there may be a month where you could get off and attend.

Yeah, yeah, but others you can't other things.

Okay, gotcha.

So we're angry on the case.

No, she's had to um resign.

So it's a thank you card for her.

Oh, and then along with that, I know that Angie was kind of helping push forward the oral history effort.

Um, I don't know.

I wasn't here last meeting, so I don't quite know where things left off on that.

And um, if we are still interested in pursuing that grant, I'm still happy to write it.

Okay, that's what I'm gonna talk to them about when I go.

Perfect.

Great.

Just let me know.

Um, do we need to make a motion for me to help with that grant if she finds out just so we can like hit deadlines?

Um, yeah, I mean, that won't hurt.

Okay.

You know, we're kind of authorizing somebody from the commission to help write that.

Perfect.

Assuming they want to do it.

Great.

And it's 3,000, right?

That's matching.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So uh, can I get a motion that under the stipulation that they would like us to help them with this grant that we authorize me, Annie Bomber to help them write the grant for the oral history project.

I summer.

Perfect.

I second.

All in favor?

I great.

Motion approved.

Okay.

Uh the next one, the reconnaissance level survey.

I just wanted to give a quick update on that.

Um, so I think you're all aware Kirk Kurt Cuffer's preservation strategies has been uh hired to do that tier two um kind of citywide reconnaissance level survey.

They will start um in March doing the actual physical survey.

And he is sorry, no, they'll start in April.

He's planning on attending the meeting in March, our meeting to kind of discuss it um before they start.

Great.

So it's ongo ongoing.

Perfect.

But we'll we'll see Kirk uh in April.

Fantastic.

Glad to hear things are underway.

Yes.

I'm gonna think okay.

So Widowmaker update.

And Jason was hoping to attend uh by Zoom.

I know he's at a town right now for work.

Unfortunately, he emailed about an hour ago saying he wasn't gonna make it.

Um so we're still working with the county um to get the uh uh plaque at the flight park.

Um this is the the plaque as we've previously approved it, and um got printed.

The county does require their logo to be on the plaque because we do want to put it in the flight park, which is county park.

So we've been working with them and the consultants on options.

Um, so this is kind of the option that we've come up with that the county has approved.

Um it meets their standards for logo.

Um, so we take the existing plaque and basically attach it to uh another plaque that's a little bit bigger, has the county logo and provides that board.

Great.

Um that said, it will cost us another $830 to recommend it.

Um to get that part uh uh printed out and you know, attached.

Um, so I would like uh uh motion today to authorize that 8 30 pending us getting all the approval from the county.

I'm not gonna order anything right this second until the county approves everything.

Um we also did you want to look.

I'm sorry, you were kind of yeah, did you want to go back to the bid or did you want to go back to well?

I um is there any chance for cost share, or they're like, no, it's your thing, it's just yeah, it's okay.

Yeah, it's our thing.

Okay, so we're also working on a maintenance agreement and placement agreement with them.

Um I just sent them a draft to review that I've worked with our attorneys on.

Um, so it does require you know us to maintain the plaque and install the plaque.

Um, something else I've got to work on is kind of getting some estimates for cost to install the plaque.

Um installation.

We've Jason and I did meet.

Um maybe you will have that.

Um Jason and I did meet with County out at the flight park.

Um so we're with this being the main trail you can see from the flight park.

Um, we're thinking this location here would be the best location where we can actually look at the uh trail.

Um what the county would like to see is concrete added here.

Uh so somebody, if they're in a wheelchair, they can get off the sidewalk here, move off the sidewalk and read the plaque.

So it would be removing grass, relocating any irrigation that's right here, foreign concrete.

That's all the chunkies.

We can't just put it on top of the coke.

Are they like a little are they okay with this project or are they sustaining this on purpose?

No, they're they're okay with the project.

So it'd be you know, here essentially looking up at the storage room.

Um I have problems.

They're they're okay with the project.

Okay.

Um they have standards that have to be met.

Yeah, and if we don't meet their standards, they will say no.

Yeah, and then we have to find another location for the plaque.

Okay.

Um I think the flight park is the best location for the plaque.

I mean, that is where everybody was for these tricks.

Um, I do have some money in my budget that I can put towards the installation costs.

We can also do some cost savings having staff do some of the installation.

I know for like a Phoebe Brown's girl.

Um, like the Phoebe for the Phoebe Brown show, we had the parks department install and the plaques at the historic park.

We had the parks department just installed those for us.

Now they weren't placed in concrete, they were just you know put in put in the ground.

Um parks works kind of indicated for actual concrete work, that kind of thing, we would need somebody else to do.

They are not concrete people.

So I need I do need to get with our engineering department, um, see who they use for that work.

So there may be a cost to hire somebody there.

We may have somebody in our public works division that can be able to do that.

Um, so that's something I still have to look into and see what it would cost, what staff the city actually has that can do it versus what we may have to hire to do.

Like our parks seem to be able to relocate the irrigation, you know.

Um, so there's certain things we would be able to do in-house and other things we may not, and I just need to find that out.

Okay.

Um and we're still kind of going back and forth with um the um agreement language, you know, county's attorneys, our attorneys are all gonna have to agree to that.

Um, so as of right now, um we're looking at $830 to modify the plaque to include the county's logo.

Okay.

Um, obviously I won't order anything until we get that agreement resolved, you know, how much construction will be that kind of thing.

Um so maybe we even hold off on having a vote on that out.

We don't qualify for zap grants, do we?

I think so.

Make the I mean the city would turn it around and still make the county pay for it.

Yeah, and but I don't think that thing like the commission was through the city.

I don't know.

I'd have to have to add the city applied for something like on our behalf.

Okay.

Yeah I don't know if I mean I do like the idea of making this an ADA compliant accessible.

Yeah I do think that it's going to be really interesting to people up there.

And I I just wonder if that gives us an opportunity to tap into some other kinds of funding as well.

I don't know just trying to think large more largely yeah some accessibility fund or something.

Well grants effort yeah can I do a dive and see if we would we qualify yeah um right yeah you can I'll kind of get with Brett and Parks to pick his brain a little bit too um as far as the budget goes I did kind of pencil this and um it does put us over that said we've got the three items that are kind of who who knows you know um Isaac Stewart um at 100% and uh Dina Williams spouse it 50% um and this is just kind of the average or the you know usual costs that we've done in the past for nominations.

And then this for the recons level surveys what I was figuring for the total amount that the contract is for based on the schedule figuring this is how much would come out before July 1st with the remainder coming out in July yeah after after July so the uh 1500 coming out after so the next fiscal year um so there may be some cost savings that we see if more comes out later than what I was anticipating um that kind of thing so um potentially some cost savings if some either wants to start later again if you know Dina doesn't isn't ready to start till July then that's money available that kind of thing so I I'm I'm not so concerned about the 830 I think that can be absorbed um it's more the construction costs I've got to look into like I said I may have money in my budget to help cover right so that's you but I've got to figure out how much it's gonna cost so widowmakers still very much uh uh active active project that we're working on right now great so did you say that we needed to make a motion for the 830 or do you want to hold off let's hold off since I can't I'm not gonna order it yet and we've got to have um debt maintenance agreement agreed to and um I need to know the construction costs and things like that I think let's wait and then I can take bring everything back.

Sounds good to me yeah all right moving on then uh America 250 Wendy I also wasn't here in November and I know that well Jen probably knows a lot more about what's been going on I think there was discussion here in November and the city was going to set up a task force we did and that's done yeah yes is anybody on it I am great the first meeting is on the fourth yeah it'll be the first Wednesday of okay fantastic wonderful I think my question for this group is like there are so many many ways that you can take America 250 yeah right it it can be parades and it can be kids activities and it you know it can be many things when we were first down you're okay I feel like we talked about history angled kinds of things that might be we might be interested in doing and I don't know like with budget considerations and and whatnot if we still want to talk about that we talked about maybe doing oral histories in combination with draper days remember that um you know I'm I am really flexible but I also am I really like his celebrations like this to actually have some history in them yes that's just a I don't know if anybody's interested tomorrow's the deadline the church of Jesus Christ is doing a big like 250 people thing and you could be part of it if you want oh like a report

Remember that.

You know, I'm I am really flexible.

But I also am I really like his celebrations like this to actually have some history in them.

Yes.

That's just a I don't know.

If anybody's interested, tomorrow's the deadline, the Church of Jesus Christ is doing a big 250 people thing, and you could be part of it if you want.

Oh like a recording.

Yeah, they have like a script and you choose which one like is means something to you.

Yeah and you can record yourself and you submit it and they'll pay you if they select it.

Oh like $50, yeah.

That's cool.

So if anyone's interested, I can send you the link.

We were hoping maybe with the interviews we could work on something with the ethnic group.

And that's one of the big things I'm concerned about.

And we know that there were Japanese, we know there were Greeks, there were Mexicans, and lots of other things.

Well the 250, it might provide a way for the asks to seem uh less tokens, if you know what I mean.

Yeah, absolutely.

Um so if it's kind of part of this larger effort to really fill in the gap of what's been gathered in the last 50 years or since 50 years ago, or that is really how we approach the peoples of Utah requisited is saying, you know, this great thing was published in the 70s for the bicentennial and 50 years have gone by and so many things have changed and so many stories are being lost, and you can frame it in a different in a way that doesn't sound like another pioneer history book, right?

Because that's where people are like, oh, if that's what you're doing, you know, I we wouldn't fit there.

So I think there are opportunities, but it it would be some work.

Yeah, and would it be a lot of coordination with the historical society on that side of things then?

Maybe maybe.

Yeah, yeah.

Is that something that you bring up in our realm?

Yeah, yeah.

And maybe um when you talk about the oral histories with them, uh kind of frame it in the America 250, because I think that that's a really great driver that people will want to hopefully come and tell their stories, and uh maybe also suggest like a scan and share something.

Sure, maybe we could put together an exhibit and city.

So just from my uh this is what something we're thinking about standpoint so that I know what to say.

Um we're thinking about at Draper Days using that as an opportunity to um collect some of these oral histories from people who are there and digitize like artifacts and that would be good to do like a booth thing.

Yeah, that people could stop and we could say, hey, do you have something to share and get their information so we can do it?

The I think I don't know who it is.

Is it Utah Division of Arts and Museums that has the oral history booth?

And you just know who isn't that has that?

Um I know they had it at the UMA conference uh a couple months ago.

I'll reach out and find out who has it because I know that you can rent it and bring it into your space, and it's like it looks like a photo booth, and you sit down and you can like record yourself telling stories a little bit past the record, yeah.

So there might I know we have budget constraints, yeah, but there might be an opportunity.

I I'm hoping soon there's a budget with this other committee and be like, hey, it's part of it, like yeah, so let me know like the price range.

Yeah, I'll look into it, please.

Yeah, I'll look into that.

So that I be like, yeah, we're looking at 50 bucks a day, or I'll figure out what who had that.

Can we collaboratively work with the historical society to do this, or do they need to do it?

I don't see why we couldn't be helping, you know, and okay and doing um potentially spare heading um just generally taking over, no but maybe this could be an opportunity to if we're working with them on oral histories for America 250, maybe that can help direct them into doing oral history generally.

Yeah, kind of have it be the gateway.

Yeah, gateway see what happened at this event, yeah, like the amazing information and stories that we got.

Oh, it would be great to continue.

Yeah, yeah, we can maybe we could tie it into how yeah, like we could come talk about your family's house.

And we could, I mean, would JR Allen we we got that, you know?

We got a great interview with Paul Smith um about his experiences in Draper and his history, but also personal stories about the house itself for that video, so that may also be a way to look at it as you know, where we want these oral histories, your experiences in Draper, your experiences with houses or uh debuilt environment.

People may want to come in and talk about you know, going to school at uh the draper park school or you know, I mean, even when I was a kid, it was school kindergarten there, you know.

So, you know, kid uh people may want to come in and talk about what their experiences at the historic buildings a lot of work.

Yeah, you know, yeah, different things like that.

Yeah, yeah, could evoke a lot of memories and start some good big traction for storytelling, and then we could have that list of people that are interested in saying historical society dig deeper.

Yes, yeah, okay, great.

I love it.

Great.

Is that enough for you, Krista?

Was there anything else we wanted that we thought we wanted to try?

I obviously I'm biased, but I see the America 250 thing as nothing but an expression of history, right?

Well, same, but I feel like we all have a really limited kind of tunneled view about it, and don't see it like I don't love the concerts and the other things that tend to go along with all of this.

Yeah, but that's me.

Well, yeah, so I want if is there more material I can bring?

Okay, so the other thing that I always feel like is an opportunity with America 250 is that we can talk about 1776 here, so that is Native American history.

Yes, and the Dominicans and Escalante expedition, which did not come this far north, but nonetheless did happen in 1776, and it's uh cool history, yeah.

Heard that for a while.

Okay, good.

Okay, good that's good for today.

Yes, okay, okay.

Uh all right, Wendy, keeping it up with you, Juneteenth.

Juneteenth, okay.

So I do know that when y'all met last time, the idea about doing something to um around Juneteenth in Draper Forward, right?

So a piece in Draper Forward about slavery in Draper and um the bankhead family, basically.

So we I did I brought all of this because we found some things back in the whenever it was that we were looking for.

So there is one news article.

These came from the historical society.

Um so if you look turn it this way to this article that says black slave boy gets equality at party.

This is in Draper.

Wow.

I'll send it around.

So we don't have a ton.

Uh we have a bit we could put together a sketch.

I would love to be to know where the bankhead home was so that we could tie it to place.

I know that they were running uh sheep in that there is a bit of a write-up on the Alex on Alex Bankhead who lived in Draper.

He came to Utah in 1848 as an as an enslaved boy.

He was 11.

Um he was son of Nancy.

He had a brother, Sam.

And so his mother, Nancy was a house.

Um, a domestic worker for the bank heads, two boys, Alex and Sam.

Alex was sold to Abraham Owen Smoot, who took him to Provo.

After um slavery ended, Alex moved to Spanish fork.

And he married Marinda Red Banking, who there is more information about Marinda, yeah, about her.

Um it was just a bit.

Was she African American?

Yeah.

Yeah.

She she was owned by the red family.

So we have some stuff about Alex.

Well, unless time a lady was here that interviewed about the commission.

And did everybody see the article that was published?

Yeah.

Yeah.

And uh she expressed interest in this subject.

So I'm wondering if we couldn't get her to uh maybe help us with that too.

Who was it?

Uh Catherine Winston once, yeah.

And she's the one that did the picture book on Draper.

Yeah.

So she's had a lot of contacts and has a lot of information.

She didn't know seem to know anything about this, but I really think so.

Yeah, yeah.

So and I know that the the Draper bankheads, there's another big bankhead, um, black bankhead family that goes to Wellsville after emancipation, but well, it's well down by price.

Wellsville or Logan, I don't know.

Maybe it's Wellsville by Price.

Is it Wellington?

No, Wellsville is by Logan and Wellington is by Price, isn't that right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I think um the other bankhead family went north.

And it will be keeping track of which branch, you know.

I also know that in Amy Theorio's book, she does talk about these bankheads.

Um, and that maybe Alex went back to Missouri to try to find his kin after emancipation, and just they had just scattered through the winds and he could not ever locate them.

So we can put together a story, the deadline to have something done.

You told me what that was.

Oh it's sooner than we want.

March.

Oh, let me look.

No, it's April to have it published with Juneteenth in June.

Is that right?

Hold on one second.

That about um okay.

So Alex said the forward issue would be the main May June edition, and the deadline would be April 15th.

April 15th.

So that's pretty tight, but I think it's doable.

I mean, yeah.

Does everybody feel good about this?

Yeah, yeah.

Absolutely.

I feel really good about it because I know it's got a good handle with tip boils because we will write with great care.

We can do that.

And I think you know, that like the information we did on uh Galina um, yeah, we had an outside organization review.

We may we may want to do that for this as we can do that with somebody.

Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.

Paul Robert I'm just gonna involve it with black band in my ward and has some recently some very unhappy experiences in draper.

you know that like the information we did on uh galena um yeah we had an outside organization review we may we may want to do that for this as well we can do that with somebody yeah that's what i was gonna say robert i'm just gonna involve with the black man in my ward and has some recently some very unhappy experiences it's too bad that she's planning on moving away from you hearing that yeah but right now she'd come back to Gotham as she'd children because it's on the treatment maybe stay at school and church they hate people um well wendy with the article i'd love to help with research so i'm very interested i'd love to help will you look at any theory's book yes great yes perfect what's it called again i think it's called slavery in utah okay perfect i don't feel like i could contribute much but if you want another group read oh definitely that whole thing i can do that we'll do the group editing okay i mean i think we want to be direct um and but not there's an art to bringing people along with the story yeah and helping them become invested and not just think this is somebody else's problem yeah right yeah so in my mind that's kind of where we want to work aim yeah i agree okay right great slavery in zion that's what it's slavery in zion okay that's just amazing uh this boggles my mind but um i this is kind of a different area but uh jane beckwith with the the japanese the topaz museum in delta she's been going through she's resigned now and she's been looking for a new director but she's been through japanese coming after and say a white woman shouldn't be running the show because white women really don't know how um japanese people really felt about a little bit this is happening now you know that she's done all that to build that museum and preserve all that history and everything and that she's getting um some japanese members coming people coming after her about that she doesn't understand and shouldn't white people shouldn't be running that museum sentence kind of your mind that this period history we should face those kinds of things because before when she started all this in Delta because I'm from Delha and I know Jane very well understand she took a lot of flack but she even brought it forth again people told her Jane just let sleeping dogs lie and don't bring up this community so she took a lot of flak and built the place now she's getting repercussions from the Japanese well and I I think that's why whatever article we we do right we we want buy in yes so absolutely okay so we can definitely reach out to Semma Hadithi that is uh African American genealogy uh and historic preservation group that's okay here um maybe we could link and draper forward to their um they've just launched the Buffalo Soldiers Heritage Trail okay that is so cool cool and there's a story map that's online so it would be an easy resource to provide a little bit more context so that yeah yeah we'll okay great all right uh walking to our brochures david okay well I've been busy so I have now placed uh brochures at uh corner canyon high school draper elementary some atomary some academy junior high school and a draper recreational center and also I have um uh replenish things at the library and also the senior center great and so I am out of the plastic display cases and I think that I literally just ordered you some that's great because I was thinking that we agreed last time that uh we that the motion was that we could order them as needed and that you had our approval uh at an order them as needed I think so and yeah I think didn't I get six or nine or something like that last time I got eight okay I think there were four in each of the box do you want another eight is yeah okay um I had the one rejection and that was at the dentist office other than that everybody has been very receptive

I was thinking that we agreed last time that the motion was that we could order them as needed, and that you had our approval.

I think so.

And I think didn't I get six or nine or something like that last time?

I got eight.

Okay.

I think there were four in each of the boxes.

Do you want another eight?

Is that okay?

I had the one rejection, and that was at the dentist's office.

Other than that, everybody has been very receptive.

Okay, so it was that's that's what it was in September to order.

Um and I can't remember if we did a vote that said we can just order.

That's what I remember.

But um with the budget being tight, we may want to wait until July and order in July.

Um yeah.

Just because the budget I think that would make most sense until hold off a little bit until we wait for these numbers to either even out or yeah, and we may we know as as we figure out um the uh widowmaker, we may have better idea of our costs, or as um the home registrations and the recons level survey, those uh bills start coming, and we might have better idea of our costs.

So we may be able to order it sooner.

I just don't want to be ordering things when we may run out of it.

How expensive are they then on that?

It was uh 9283, so it was a hundred bucks for four those.

So they're not they're not super expensive, but right now we're already 250 in the hole.

Oh yeah, so I think we just need to hold off until we know what we have.

Yeah, it's great to hear how receptive people are to these though.

That's fantastic.

Yeah.

Yeah, even today at the I went to the recreational center.

At first, they said no, they didn't this put things this way, and then they went and said, well, they'd have to give approval of one person, and so they talked to them, and they said, Well, they have to talk to somebody else, and the Chief Hotcho said by all means put them out.

Great, that's good.

Yeah, love the support.

And just people don't know that people are stammed at the hear that there's a museum in Draper.

And then I don't know if this needs to be cable for another discussion, but sort of related when at the senior center, I went, I'm on the advisory council there, and uh I went today to do something else, but I also took brochures because they allow me to place three copies of each of them.

Great.

And the new president of the advisory committee was there, and he said, Oh, a lot of people don't know about this.

He said, We need to have a uh program for somebody from the historical society and the commission come and talk about so our people know it.

And uh a lot of people come to visit their kids and they come to the draper senior center, and so they're looking for things to do in an activity.

So I think that would be a take it to the meeting.

Um and um we have to go to the connecting, but it's like senior centers interested.

Sometimes oh, and coming to their museum talk about the history or talk about tours.

Yeah, great.

Glad to hear people are interested.

That's fantastic.

Um yeah, Nancy will take that to the historical society meeting this week and let them know, and they can connect and liaise.

All right.

Ethnic ethnic and minority history research.

Oh, I have been doing things, but I haven't I'm not having a lot of success.

I thought for sure that the the go farm and the goat cheese and everything, I thought I would be able to find something, but there would be advertisements for selling the cheese and things like that, but I'm just that's uh product uh-huh.

I'm finding it about the family itself, and they mentioned the goat, but I'm having any success in finding much more there.

So I'm still working on the ethics.

Great.

Um, and then Native American recognition, Wendy.

So last time I checked the page wasn't up on the website unless that has changed.

I forgot I looked before.

Let me look really quick.

But let me, yeah, let me get with uh Alex, yeah.

So I think the next question is next steps.

Do we like the logical thing would be to conceptualize something to tie into America's U50 in July and think about what that might be coming out of this commission?

Um that would be different.

Um the Sutton County monument monument, right?

I personally think we could just have something in the park that says something about uh Native American people were here.

This was a this general area was a rendezvous for north, south, east and west.

And this some I don't that other monument is just wonderful, but so far we moved it.

I don't think many people get out there.

And I think anything we could then even to direct people to that, I mean wonderful because there is so much activity at the park.

Are you thinking about that park or the historic park?

The historic part.

So this would be coming up creating a plaque or well, that's just one suggestion, something that people can read and say, you know, they're again they're the history of drape was so much about the you know the finder heritage, and that was great, and was all great wonderful.

These people are amazing, but then um we do have references to the fact that the native people didn't come here and trade ring fish from the Jordan River and trade it for wheat, and that's about the only thing I've been able to find.

But we do know that they were here and the the run and um just something that there was a presence of the native people and that there is another monument, I think would be a good start.

That's just my kid.

So we seem to be doing good at plaques, we are doing good at plaque funding plan.

Yeah, certainly issues um justn't a bad thing.

We would just need to plan for it.

I don't do it this year.

Yeah, a plaque would not be this year.

Um when you figure research writing it, getting it actually printed and installed.

It takes time.

Can we do that outside of uh like a historic register home?

Do we have we done other plaques that are uh yeah?

So we've done we've done the plaques at the uh historic park that talk about um the fort and the buildings that were at the fort.

We've done a plaque along the Phoebe Brown trail um that talked about Phoebe Brown and her family and everything.

Um of the houses have the draper historic preservation as their block, it's not a national register.

Excuse me.

Historic preservation used to have a local list and would do plaques for homes.

Okay.

Um even if they weren't on the national.

Yeah, there are some homes that are I think we kind of stopped doing, stopped having like a specific like historic list.

Um, you know, we still have a list of what properties are historic, we're doing the constelled survey, that kind of thing, but I think we kind of moved away from individual plaques for structures.

Um the only thing I have is that Excel file that has the historic homes and it kind of lists whether it was on the start of the national register and if there's memory and I just don't know when it says that there's a plaque if it's talk what plaque it's talking about.

Okay, so since we don't have time to do a plaque, what what are some of the things that you think that we could do by this year or something?

Um I mean another draper forward article in November, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, that's true.

What if we do something about um Dominguez and Escalante and Native Utah in 1776?

And we can that could go into the July August Draper Forward.

Okay, since that matches well to the expedition time.

The expedition started July 29th.

They get into Utah in October.

So yeah, so then we could try for the July August, but if there's space issues, we can later got pushed to October, it would be okay.

They showed up and they were greeted much like we are with all foil picture.

Yeah, yeah, I think that's a great idea.

How about that?

And then the back idea on the stove.

Yeah, yeah, keep bringing it up.

I'll um I'll ask Alex what deadlines would be.

I know the issue for July has logroper uh phase information.

Yeah, so uh space maybe a little bit in that one.

Yeah, and it might be like bury our effort also if we did July August.

Like I like your idea.

That's and I think it would fit, but I think that it would get buried and overlooked, and if we want something to actually pay attention in September or October would be better.

Yeah, I think that's great.

All right, um, the National Register of Historic Places updates.

I don't have an update, I just wanted to see if there's been any discussion on the Isaac Stewart or with Dina Williams on her house.

Both of them are ready to go.

Okay, they are excited, ready to go.

So I was going to ask you.

Uh since we haven't had a great luck getting a hold of Coral, do we want to ask Kurt if his sperm is interested?

Or branch out, get some quotes.

I think let's branch out.

Okay.

Um, I mean, we could always send something to Coral, send something to Kirk, but I mean, there's other people that do it, so maybe we reach out to you know a few different people and a couple what we get.

Great.

Yeah.

Okay.

So and is that something you would do?

Do you want me to write?

Um yeah, if you can reach out, yeah, absolutely see.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay, I will do that.

Um, but yeah, they're both excited.

I got the green light from Carolyn just a couple days ago.

She said I gotta think about this over the holidays, but they said yes.

So okay, I will reach out.

Um, and then um question for you.

I forgot to mention something when we were talking about another agenda item.

Can I jump or take a one item?

Uh yeah, I just uh one society.

Yeah, I I need to schedule another day for us to go in inventory.

Um just wanted to see if anyone is available.

I'm looking at February 2nd or February 9th.

Second, second anyone else.

I'm sorry.

That's okay.

That's okay for family birthdays.

Oh my gosh.

I need to look at my calendar.

Okay.

Do you want to text me and let me know?

Yeah.

Okay.

And if anyone else is interested, just shoot me a text.

Um, I'll reach out and see if they're available the second and I'll keep you posted.

I can also do the ninth, I think.

I prefer the second.

Okay, but it's not a note for me to do the ninth.

Perfect.

Okay, I'll keep you posted.

Good.

Sorry.

Okay, now you're good.

Okay.

Last lineup on the agenda, conflict of interest forms.

I'm gonna have to share pen, I guess.

All fill it out.

If you've already filled it out digitally, I need you to email it to me.

How long do we have the room?

Um gosh, you're a reader of things.

Um it's only it is only seven o'clock.

We have time.

So we need some more hands.

How many things do we need?

No.

Oh, I put that it's the 26th today.

Let's see.

There we go.

I fixed it.

If it doesn't work, let me know.

They kind of hang out in my bag unused.

Okay.

Well, Jennifer, have I been reappointed or not?

Uh yes.

Yes, you are.

Yeah, we recently had reappointments of David Jordan and uh Karina.

Yay!

Congratulations.

That we had to answer.

Yeah, it wasn't getting through it all together here.

I think last year they revised it.

Yeah, um if you need to take it home and do it and then scan it in.

Um, you can do that as well.

So I just want to make sure.

So are these for business things?

They said paid or unpaid leadership positions.

Like are they talking about like if you're in a leader position leadership position, like in the church or something?

Or is it just business?

It's real, I mean it's really getting at your interests in something that could create conflict.

Okay.

So like planning commission, we have uh applying commission chair is a real estate agent, and he has um had to accuse himself because he's been the real estate agent for somebody coming in to get approval from planning commission.

You know, so he's got direct financial interest in the results of that application.

Okay.

So he's got to recuse himself and he's gonna, you know, uh state that he has his real estate business and maybe not a volunteer thing.

It's more business, okay.

Yeah, can I get another copy of these of that stuff?

Yes, but like I said, you guys can take these.

Um, but I do need you to send them back to me.

But isn't the business regulated by Draper City?

Did that mean if I have a business that is a Draper City business license?

Yes, no matter what it is, as I get a business license from the city.

So that'd be that'd be yes, but um, which one is it?

Number two really made it far into this question.

Interest in business entities.

Oh no.

That are regulated by stated city.

So I mean, I have a draper business license.

Oh would that be a yes on this?

Yeah, so if you've got uh uh draper city business license, then yeah.

to this question is interest in business entities oh no that are regulated by data city so i mean i have a draper business license would that be a yes on this yeah so if you've got a uh draper city business license then yeah okay says to skip the section two seen i don't even see a section two um you could mean it's equally here because it's two so there's no questions so if i got an like an inheritance that's yeah no disclosure of income inheritance is no a lucky uh yeah you know my post deads it's all that's good yeah no so disclosure income i mean it's it's really getting at again that this is looking for conflicts okay okay um so molys owns a business got a business license in the city yeah she needs approval from historic preservation commission to do something there's a conflict because she's a voting member of the commission yeah and this does list on this list it has a national register and has it paper okay and so they have well then I hadn't looked at it that carefully to know well that answers that um can I request something we put on the next agenda yeah okay I'm talking about I I didn't see was there further up on the budget than what was shown you were showing I mean is there is the um we just put it video tour still on the budget or was it taking it uh not that interesting Bob I think we've put well we had that oh yeah we were gonna do that but that one's not going to be ready to do yeah so can we do another one on that we don't we don't really have it in the budget to do another one this for this year okay then maybe I can wait because we were scheduled to meet with um the owners of the house next to the Draper historic theater okay in March but if we're gonna have to wait i mean maybe we can meet with them but just say it's gonna have to be in July okay yeah yeah it doesn't hurt to meet with them okay but just I when is Jason planning on leaving you just didn't have a time yet um he is staying until the Widowmicer plot is done okay all right so I'll probably look for someone else to report the other transactions that involve the city is there clean X anywhere so this would be the past year right so uh I did not need this week looking um thank you so much I usually have something in my pocket in the show oh second are they working I need uh city sign off on building permit issue uh a house remodeled because you're remodeling your house yeah well I a house I own it's not okay um so I don't know that's I don't think that's a company because it's not gonna come through the commission yeah or anything so yeah so that won't be okay

Well, I a house I own it's not okay.

Um I don't know.

That's I don't think that's a call.

It's not gonna come through the commission, yeah.

Or anything, so yeah, so that won't be okay.

Most of mine doesn't push the moment.

Yeah section two C is it C2 or is that raise A.

Oh wait, to see okay, never mind.

Sorry, that was just word of work this.

Oh yeah, disclosure C disclosure of bank you can just give two questions.

This is why I have you guys all do it during the meeting after I get them then smart.

Well I didn't see anything about Green Flake or any of those standards that are coming up this forest off or neighbor.

Do you remember that way?

Yeah.

Have you been on that cottonwood historic trails?

Uh uh that has plaques all along it.

They talk about green flake there about green flake, yeah.

Um I know he lived like right on 70th now, like or 7200 board union area.

That's where his house was.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

I saw a wolf on there.

Did you it was back up luckily a couple of fences over, so it wasn't like right by where we were, but we're like, oh, I think that's a wolf over there.

Um terrifying.

Uh going down in here early in the morning, and there was a coyote.

Oh yeah, there's coyotes up there way down on third east.

I was on bulker and ran into one one night when my daughter and I were out looking at Halloween things.

I don't have any problems with other people on the Nola.

I don't live on the line at all.

Noah, but uh having calls with raccoon.

Oh yeah, we've seen those new.

Yeah, we saw those.

My daughter and I saw uh like three, we were driving south the three things come in and they went down into the drain.

Oh debt in the story.

Yeah, they yeah, they climbed down into the drain.

Oh my goodness.

There's been like the last three nights in a row over by Summit Academy on 132nd south.

Oh yeah, like that part.

Wow, yeah.

Oh dear, yeah.

Yeah, we I see deer all the time by the Jordan River Trail.

Not that part, yeah.

I buy them right that are art.

And eat our grape leaves.

Oh no, how dare they have a video of it?

I don't mind believes my roses.

In the door, yeah, sorry.

Looks like most people are done.

So I think let's kind of thing it up and then.

And those who aren't done can finish.

But last item on the agenda is just review action items.

We'll work with historical society coordination.

Jen and Jason are going to continue moving the Widowmaker plat forward.

Krista to work on the oral histories or discuss oral histories on the American 250 Commission or committee.

David will continue to fill existing brochure holders and continuous ethnic research.

Make sure everything is up and then get with him on deadlines for September, October, Draper Forward.

Annie will get quotes on the registration nominations.

And then Annie will work to schedule another inventory day for the shortcut.

Now I'm going to the meeting on the end this month for historic society.

I didn't know if that was part of number one.

Am I allowed to make a contribution toward buying the containers?

They have a place that they don't.

I think that's one of the real selling points.

Yeah.

And they and they don't have to worry about finding someplace for it or packing it up someplace or other than the library.

They have a really good display.

Yeah, they do wearing panatics.

But um let me say the wait is July.

I mean, yeah.

Let me look into that.

I mean, I hate for you to spend your own money.

Um I mean, obviously, I I think you can, but um I guess I'll just go by and I can get the information from you and just order them.

Yeah, you you could so that's if that's something you would like to do and donate for to the shortcut.

We just be on the roll with all these people want.

Yeah, yeah.

Like I said, I've only had one reject.

People seem really interested in knowing.

But they don't know that there's a museum.

I know people don't know about that.

Okay.

All right.

Um be called the agenda.

Last time.

All right.

Are we ready to adjourn?

Can I get a motion?

I move that we adjourn.

Second and we're good.

Yeah, we're good.

Adjourn.

Seven seventeen p.m.

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