0:00IT has told me it will work.
0:04We're recording their apps from the museum.
0:10Okay, we're still museum at still.
0:13We are recording, guys.
0:18So all right, we ready?
0:22Alright, welcome everyone to the chat.
0:32Welcome everyone to the February 18th, 2026 version of the Historic Preservation Commission of Draper.
0:41Um it is currently 6 03 PM.
0:44Uh let's start off with a roll call.
0:48David Hales, Jason Wiggins.
0:50Melissa Day, Wendy Atzett, Nancy Michaels.
0:54Jennifer Destromski, and then Natasha and Krista, if you want to introduce yourself.
1:08Um, did everybody get a chance to read uh last month's minutes?
1:22To go over after I sent them, Melissa emailed me and was like, I I combined Elizabeth and Melissa together.
1:37So um that and then I found a couple places where I had Alan spelled AN and then E N.
1:45So um there's so there's a couple spots.
1:47So in the uh minute uh voting, I just need to fix Elizabeth's last name, and then in uh 3A put Elizabeth Allen.
2:01Oh so and then there's another for the minutes recap here.
2:07So we just need to fix the spelling of Elizabeth's name because I had it two different ways.
2:15So all right, do I mean do we want the moment that we accept the minutes as a corrected are all in favor?
2:27Alright, motion good.
2:33Okay, back to hey, let's kick it off with the historical subject.
2:45Um Elizabeth doesn't look like she is here to win.
2:49But you re okay, perfect.
2:50Nancy went to the last meeting.
2:52Do you want to give us an update?
2:53Um, it was all talk about what they're gonna keep and what like uh each said she said things on but I asked them about the oral histories and they and I just texted Lynn today and she said they were gonna talk about it again, but we found out that they're on hold.
3:15So the grant, so they are also warning Howard was wanting to have a band at the Heritage Banquet that would play the old time music and so I took a picture of the draper brass band and I sent it to the two um instrumental teachers at the middle school and the high school to ask them about it, and they said, well, we can't do it over the summer because we're not around, but if you made up a flyer, maybe we could pass it out to students who might be able to come up with something.
3:52I also put it on the draper do you remember Facebook page to see if anyone might be interested?
4:03Did they say anything about anybody being willing to come to the senior center and talk about Draper history?
4:09Um I mentioned it to them, but nobody said, but I will bring it up again with them.
4:19And do we have somebody that is going to the next meeting?
4:24And Elizabeth has joined.
4:32Yeah, and we're joined.
4:37So Elizabeth, do you have any updates on the historical society coordination?
4:47Um is the next meeting?
4:49It's in last Monday of the month.
4:55Yeah, I think is that right?
4:57Let's look over the calendar.
5:00Uh yeah, it would be the twenty-third.
5:04If no one else is able to go, I can.
5:13All right, Elizabeth, it looks like it's you.
5:20Um and then uh as an inventory update, we went on I gotta look at my calendar.
5:26I don't remember what day that was.
5:28On the second of February, and we got some stuff done.
5:33We are planning to go again on the 23rd, which is the same Monday from 6 to 8.
5:39Um, so if anyone is interested in joining us for inventory that day, uh the more the merrier.
5:45It'd be great to have you.
5:48Uh February 23rd from 6 to 8.
5:56We'll just keep on keeping on great.
6:00You'll be there perfectly.
6:03Hope we get through those cameras.
6:11And one of the things that I started doing now that I have a a computer that's working well enough, um, I have a spreadsheet and putting everything into a spreadsheet, so we'll all be searchable.
6:23So when we go to start deaccessioning things and helping them figure that out, it'll it'll be a lot easier.
6:29Can I say something to Elizabeth regarding the meeting?
6:33Um could you talk to them about how the instrumental teachers wanted to have a flyer and see if that's something they would like to put together to pass out at the schools for the um a band for the his heritage banquet.
6:51Are you asking if I can or yeah, can you just ask them if they would be willing to put together a flyer that we could hand out at the school?
6:59For anyone who's interested to be part of a band like that.
7:07Um, and then for oral history grant opportunities.
7:11Um Utah Humanities has their oral history grants on a pause right now, so we'll table that until that updates.
7:20And let them know that too.
7:22I mean Yeah, we let them know that, Elizabeth.
7:27Uh Utah Humanities has the oral history grants paused right now.
7:33So just let them know that we will I'll let 'em know as soon as they're reopened.
7:40Yeah, I can let them know that.
7:48Uh walk through video of historic homies, Jason and Nancy.
7:52So we're supposed to meet with the people at the house next to the Drayper's tour.
7:57They've heard next month, March.
7:59But we don't have money to do one, right?
8:07What sink was that again?
8:09I don't have a date set yet.
8:10I just need to reach out to they said March, so I'll reach out to them and let you know.
8:15Cause we've got the registrations, national registrations that we've um budgeted for, and we'll be looking at a couple bits today for those, and then we've got the rest of the reconnaissance level survey that we need to pay for.
8:34Um majority of the heavy lifting for their work will start in April.
8:40Um, I have a question too.
8:42I don't know if I can talk about that this right now.
8:44But I went over to the Kimball Junction area to look I I went through that.
8:50Kurt that came to talk to us about the survey over in Kimball Junction.
8:56So I took made a list off of his report and went over to Kemble Junction to look at all those old homes.
9:02And there's a couple of them I think that would be nice to add.
9:06So because we don't really have any on our walking tour at all of those.
9:10Will you send me the list?
9:17Oh that are going to be demolished.
9:19Do you know if the Johansson home is gonna be?
9:22I know when Kimball's house is gonna go.
9:25Which um, and that's the brookhouse that's on Kimball.
9:30But I'm very sad it will go, but I that one's definitely gonna go, and there's three others that will be going.
9:36Send me send me the addresses.
9:38The ones I don't think yeah, and then I can see um what kind of their the status is.
9:45Okay, and then we can go up there.
9:46Yeah, so we can like put it online on our walking tour on there.
9:51And I'd like to go to the Historic Society and find that information about them and talk to the owners if that helps too.
10:00We got good news also that um some friends of Jen and myself bought the Mickelson store and that property that has the post office and everything else.
10:09Uh the new owner said absolutely they'd be happy to do a video tour with that.
10:14I mean, there's a lot of things that they've done in terms of renovation, but I think there's still a cool story and they're willing to do that, but not yet.
10:22Um if they need to get a few things sorted in in terms of what they're gonna do in t business wise with the property, but they they said 100% they can do it.
10:38Um National Register of Historic Places.
10:42Um so we were looking into getting bids for uh getting those two properties on the national register and I send it out to five different places and heard back from both Kirk and Coral.
10:58And um yeah, so we can look over those bids.
11:04Yeah, so Kirk is saying um five thousand for each nomination.
11:11Um we've paid in the past for nominations.
11:24Well what have we paid in the past?
11:28Um it's been about 2500 is what we paid.
11:34This is kind of what I budgeted for because that's what we paid in the past.
11:40Um I and I can kind of look through the records to verify exactly what we've paid.
11:46But if you want, I can kind of open up past years budgets here.
11:50Um Coral is looking at 2500, um, because there's no intensive level survey done on uh Dina Williams home.
12:01Um the one on seventh, there is an intensive level survey that's already been done, so she's uh reducing that cost.
12:13Um then this is the timeline on that.
12:18Um so completing by June first.
12:21Let's see, did Kurt put timeline on his it doesn't look like it.
12:35So those those are the two bids that we've gotten.
12:45Oh, let's I just want to take a look and see previous years what we've what we've paid for nominations.
13:06I'm asking you to evaluate any concision on them, or uh yes.
13:12Now if you guys want me to send you these, then you can take a look at them and think about it, and we can put it on for the next agenda.
13:19That's fine, but we would have to uh have a vote um to choose one of the bids and proceed forward.
13:30I think if you just put them side by there's not a lot of text there.
13:33I think you can just put them side by side on the screen real quick.
13:36That might be enough to I don't know how to do that.
13:43If you pull out the tab and then okay.
13:47Now you should be able to split your screen left and right.
13:59Like function left and function right will split your screen or something.
14:04Is it function or all there's a lot of things?
14:06I need to know this.
14:08Yeah, I didn't know that there were buttons I could push.
14:10I just drag it to the core until something popped up.
14:13No, there's buttons.
14:14You can push that little line it up beautifully.
14:18Yeah, there's new versions of Windows have little drop zones that you can.
14:22So you can just put it in, yeah.
14:26Sorry, I may have proposed something that's more no, you're you're fine.
14:32Um you can see the bottom line for one is five thousand and bottom line for the other 4200.
14:41Uh it's five thousand each for the current one, so the bottom line is ten thousand.
14:45Well, uh yeah, to me that just seems like he's not looking for work right now.
14:50Yeah, I don't understand the difference.
14:53Unless he's offering something that's in addition to what Coral typically does, that doesn't make sense.
15:00Well, I don't think he didn't put a timeline also.
15:04Yeah, he might have emailed me one.
15:06Let me double check the email.
15:08Um I think nominations are pretty standard in what they're required to have.
15:20Um, it's really a form you're filling out and then you're attaching your documentation.
15:28I mean it doesn't look like there's anything anything, yeah, like no time.
15:33There's nothing that explains the difference in price, so to me it's logical to go and we we have experience with coral.
15:43It looks like in 23 for the NS auto registration, we paid 2800.
15:54That might have been coral.
15:56Oh, wait, I I should know that because I like that five hours.
16:03Yeah, I think it was coral.
16:06So I move that we accept Coral's proposal.
16:19And that's who's seconded.
16:29So with that, if we go back to our what we budgeted.
16:34Yeah, sorry to make you pull up 11 more screens.
16:39Okay, so that would go up to uh 1700.
16:51Now we go down to 25.
16:55Was it the the other way around though?
17:09Um, and we're paying.
17:17We're paying for half of Vino.
17:20So if it's 2500, we're paying what, 13?
17:33Could someone have the conversation with her to let her know like the price range that could be, and she's okay with it?
17:39Yeah, I think let me double check my messages.
17:42I think I told her it would be um ballpark of a thousand, because I wasn't quite sure what our bids would come back at, but she said that was absolutely fine.
17:54So we would need to get with her and let her know that bid was 2500.
18:00And so her share would be the 1250.
18:04And make sure she's okay with that before we right now.
18:08Before we uh get coral fully on board.
18:11And I'll get with our uh purchasing agent on getting that.
18:36I just texted her, so we'll see what she says.
18:51I could pull up the agenda on my computer too, and I didn't.
18:59America 250 participation.
19:01Do we have any updates?
19:03Um Chris, so you attended the last meeting, right?
19:08Um it got moved to the 11th.
19:11So we sat down for about an hour.
19:15Um just to give you guys a quick one thing that I was excited about picking the career committee.
19:21Um we just we threw out a lot of ideas.
19:24Um but something that's definitely gonna happen is the uh July 5th I think.
19:32Um market calendars for that one gonna be uh picnic near all of us.
19:41And the city's gonna do a small thing towards it, like a root year float or something like that to kind of like help promote the event.
19:50So I just thought that was cool.
19:55So uh one of the ideas that was thrown out there was a potential like humidity service project.
20:00So uh one of the ideas that was thrown out there was a potential like community service project, like you know, make draper um you know keep draper pretty, make it you know, improve the town, and um I brought up that I have to know a group of people who need some work done to install black at the widowmakers that was that's a potential contender for a service project for this.
20:31So, Jen, um I wanted to make sure that you know about that because we do move forward with that.
20:36Kelly will reach out to you.
20:38Okay, um, in terms of coordinating and stuff.
20:40So I was like hoping I was like, we need to do this, and we don't have money to do it.
20:46So yeah, so fingers crossed on over now.
20:51There may be limited things that a service project can be done, mainly because of the requirements that the county has for mounting um the plaque.
21:01But there are probably a lot of things that can be done in prep and improving sight lines, maybe a little bit of trail clearing, stuff like that could be could be probably some of the park, yeah.
21:13Yeah, like planting some trees to make it like a nicer area and helping with concrete and potentially moving the spring cruises need to depending upon like it depends on who can do it and what can happen.
21:30Yeah, but it's on the radar, so and then the other one is kind of an action group, and I know we've kind of discussed this before, but um we were kind of given the green light to go ahead and write an article for the Draper Forward um with the theme, you know, what was going on in Utah and Draper in 1776.
21:55So they asked us to go ahead and do that and uh work with the communication staff to get it in there, so um, those are kind of the two major things.
22:12I I don't keep you guys posted as you know, any of the brainstorming comes to fruition.
22:19Uh I wasn't able to bring up the I know we had talked about potentially doing some oral histories at Draper Days, but I guess it's good since the grants can't go through now anyway.
22:31So um yeah, I think that was all very good.
22:46Um, all right, next one Native American recognition, Wendy.
22:50Okay, the Galena Stone Finding Monument web page is up on the website.
22:58Uh so it is on the historic sites page.
23:09And then this was what we had proposed to do for sort of the next step in Native American Recognition is to get an art article together connecting with American super piece.
23:19So we'll work on that.
23:22Um there's a link area, thank you.
23:31So the the write-up is there, and then there is the video.
23:36The link to the YouTube video.
23:40And then they do have a map on how to how to actually get there.
23:47But you know what I'll have to take.
23:49Um, and then there's the uh resources and uh sources, uh lakes as well for people.
23:58Oh, that looks great.
24:03How do you pronounce that?
24:15Yeah, I saw Wendy on channel too.
24:18Also our our media celebrity as usual, you did a great job.
24:27That was a cool story to share.
24:30Yeah, it was it shared well.
24:37All right, and what is the deadline?
24:39When did we decide we were going to do that article?
24:42I know that we talked about a couple dates.
24:47I think it was September, October.
24:49I have it in my other notes.
24:51So that we are sort of out of the way of all of the Draper data.
24:55Yeah, don't get to fall over within them.
25:16And then uh Little Maker Plaque update.
25:19I don't really have much for you.
25:20I think Chris asked you more than I have.
25:24Um I yeah, I think we're close on an agreement with the county.
25:32Um I have not had a chance to look into that construction side for the installation.
25:38So hopefully I will get something to you there.
25:44Uh Juneteenth events.
25:46Uh Wendy, do you want us talk about the article?
25:49Did everyone get a chance to read what she sent out?
25:54I'll let you take it away.
25:56Um so right now I'm just putting together as much information as we can kind of glean as you can imagine records around enslaved people are pretty limited usually.
26:09But we do have the news clipping and some other we have the article from the broad acts that connects to Alex Bankhood.
26:19So there are some good memoirs to kind of build out from like just the census records and the death records.
26:29Um we I still have some questions, but before I do any more research or work on this, I really want to get kind of a temperature check from this group um about publishing something like this.
26:44We were thinking about Draper Forward, I believe, isn't that closing that our plan?
26:50Um I don't have a word count or a target for the length of how how long that should be, so that's just a question that I have.
27:00Um but how are we feeling about the tone, the approach is it balanced in that I think so.
27:14I mean I I love what you put together.
27:16I think it it makes sense chronologically, it brings the whole story together.
27:21You've got a little bit of the history, you know, how did they get here?
27:27Uh you know, who the slave owner was.
27:30We've got a little bit there going on that kind of contextualizes it.
27:34Um, and then I love how you kind of did the deep dive into like where did they end up?
27:39Yeah, I think that was the best best part so fun.
27:42Yeah, I mean, because it it it it speaks without putting a lot of words into it, it speaks volumes as to the challenges these folks have.
27:51Absolutely, you know, beyond just coming to Utah.
27:55I thought I I thought the tone was perfect for I would say I would I'd say it's on the poetic side.
28:01Oh like I I think it says just the right amount to get people to really start thinking about what the lives of these folks would would have been like.
28:09So I think I think it's great.
28:11I think timed with Juneteenth is also really good.
28:15Um because it it's an appropriate time to to kind of talk about and and share these things.
28:22So yeah, and you got my book for it.
28:26I love that it talks about like the life after, like once they realize that you know they they were free because you mentioned that you know the news kind of trickled out here slowly and you know, things didn't travel so fast.
28:40Um, and how they went and they had lives and they had kids and they moved on and they looked like Nancy lived in Ogden and her kids I mean hopefully we'll find a little bit more information.
28:52That's what I spent the entire afternoon looking for after I saw your comment.
28:56I was like, I want to find more.
28:59I love to find those things.
29:01So it's yeah, yeah, it's been a really interesting project to research and like realizing just how hard it is to find anything has been kind of eye-opening.
29:14It's yeah on them, on the people.
29:18Yeah, oh man, is there anything you can make in the family surgery?
29:23Oh, I she's looking.
29:27I'll hand the books around so you can look at them, but these are the two most recent works on slavery in Utah, and this one has the most on the bankheads, and so the bankhead the enslaved bankheads that went with the other brother to Cash County, there are a lot more descendants out of that family, and so you'll see the bankhead name quite a bit when you're reading about the black communities in Utah, and I just figured that we would find these connections, and as I started like just logging down where people ended up, they're just a lot of sat really sad endings.
30:00And I just figured that we would find these connections.
30:04And as I started like just logging down where people ended up, they're just a lot of sat really sad endings.
30:15And I hate I I'm a little worried about not being able to talk about resilience.
30:22But we aren't quite done.
30:25So we'll we'll think about that too.
30:29One of the things I was really interested in in some other reading I was doing that a number of the members of the LBS Church who had space actually went back to the Southern States.
30:46And so they actually I don't know how many it didn't say how many or anything, but said that there were some that actually took their slaves and went back to the Southern State.
30:57Yeah, Amy Thury talks about how the ones who went on to California who were just their livestock, couldn't make it here.
31:06That like just the climatic issues and coming kind of from the south to Utah.
31:18Did you want to see it?
31:21Um I'll I'll get with Alex because I don't know about links.
31:26Do you want to just connect us in a thread again?
31:30Use my work email because that is the one I check when he's at work too.
31:35Um you email me your work email so I can make sure I have it.
31:39Yeah, and then I can get with Alex, make sure we're okay on length, or what we want to do to make sure we're getting the information out, but also meeting what they need for for like are there any pictures of Alex or anything else?
31:55No, there's a picture of their headstone.
31:59Um the pictures that I put into the document are the ones that you've been able to find.
32:05That I've been able to find.
32:06I do wonder though, if we couldn't do something with the map.
32:10So Annie found that map online, but if that is also the map that's in the front of the history of draper books, and you can see I mean, I'm like, isn't that about fifties?
32:27Um so I do wonder if we could use something interesting with the map.
32:34So it's really easy to say it's CHA, where Henry Day's place was, and then Bankhead was just directly east.
32:44I think if we include the map, we should include either a description, kind of of where in the city it it is.
32:58I mean, people can read State Street, but that's really the only street you can really make out.
33:05So people aren't really gonna know where they're looking.
33:08Yeah, so I I think being able to say this is you know, State Street 50 stork or dry creek is now known as Willow Creek, so something like that uh under the picture so people can actually kind of understand where it is.
33:24I'll maybe ask Alex if he have is interested in doing something a little more graphic with it.
33:32Yeah, you could realize these folks have done a lot of research, but what what was it uh Spanish work that he ended up?
33:47So Alex and Marina, so I'm wondering if uh there's anything down there and historical societies or anything that hasn't been on the there could be now.
33:58There's a really great article, recent article on Marinda in the Utah Historical Quarterly from like three or four years ago.
34:08So there's been a lot of work done on these families.
34:14This story I haven't seen pulled together in this way anywhere, so I mean there might be more that we could do with it, but I think I will definitely at least look at the article on Marinda and her bike.
34:30There is uh really good picture of her with like the red family, and she's kind of standing off to the side, wearing a you know, an apron.
34:44So um we have a picture of her, but she didn't live in Draper.
35:00Alright, so we're carrying on.
35:06Thank you for all your work on that, Wendy.
35:09This is the kind of thing that you stay up all night doing.
35:15We can't stop reading now.
35:17I was almost late today.
35:18I all of my tabs right now are Frank Valentine Valentine.
35:24It was almost late, but I made it.
35:32Um well we don't have any of the uh the holders left, and so I didn't know um what I know at one time the historical society had money that they weren't going to use.
35:46Would anybody be opposed to me talking to Lynn to see if they would buy?
35:55And um that's ever since Lorraine left.
35:59Why um we've always included the brochure from the historical society.
36:04And so I mean if they want to but I'd be would b anybody be opposed to me approaching then and then say, you know, we don't have the money to buy, I'm willing to put them out and we put yours out for all these years.
36:16Would it be alright?
36:18They if they want to contribute holders, then that's that's up to them.
36:24Um I didn't want to approach it if you didn't think that was.
36:29Yeah, I mean it's it's their funds to do with and and you're right, we do we do put their flyer along with the walking doors and stuff, so yeah.
36:41I think that'd be fine.
36:43Anybody else might as well ask.
36:45Do we need to make a motion for that?
36:47Or no, because it's it's them perfect deciding what to do with their money.
36:54If they aren't why then um I would be willing to spend some money and buy them since we're not having Michael July.
37:02Um sort of on a roll now and peace.
37:05I've had really good luck with people accepting them.
37:07But only had one rejection.
37:09So would it be better if you gave me the information about where you ordered them and I ordered them?
37:14Or should I give you the money and have you order them?
37:17Let's see if the historical society's interested.
37:21And if they're not, give me a call and let's talk.
37:29And I don't have anything to report on the historical research.
37:33I didn't get into some things with the African Americans and Draper, but nothing with money doesn't have them.
37:41So it's a very interesting story.
37:44Keep looking, David.
37:48Everybody is empowered to look.
37:50Share information and find.
37:53More ice the better.
38:01Um, I will get with our purchasing agent uh on uh getting Coral on board for for the historic nominations.
38:12Um Annie, if you'll get with Dina and make sure she's okay with the hearing.
38:18Um I've got uh Elizabeth and Nancy for Historical Society.
38:23I wasn't sure who's going to the next meeting.
38:28Um I just wrote down what we asked her.
38:37Um I will continue working with Jason on Widowmaker and and uh hopefully next month I will have more concrete stuff for you guys.
38:48Um and then I will connect uh Alx with our communications team of Wendy on uh the Juneteenth article and then David, you were gonna get with historical society all on brochure folder.
39:02Anything else I'm missing?
39:04Um then I'm gonna send you the list of addresses of Kim and Junction to be added to the walking drink.
39:15Tomorrow night the uh Brigham Young chapter of the Sons of the Utah Pioneers are having a lecture uh about the history of sheep in Utah.
39:25So it'll be interesting to see what he says about Draper.
39:34Since you know this was a major place for the sheep and some of those historic homes that were built was basically from the wealth that they acquired from having the sheep.
39:44The bank hats and maybe there were a couple other Allen's the um homes on pork the uh those sheep.
40:00Um during when we dressed up.
40:02Right, the owners I made a lot of money off of sheep as well.
40:08Which house was that?
40:10I'm trying to remember.
40:13I used to remember the family today, but um, I'll look at my notes and see.
40:20It was not like it was right.
40:22It was the zebra house.
40:25Oh no, I don't know how they were in one time.
40:28Yeah, that's interesting.
40:29I I have a really cool story about how they were uh shipped sheep in from Montana on the train and riding down street.
40:37Oh that's that's awesome.
40:39Which house was that again, please?
40:41The house it's right on the relation.
40:44Relation street, right?
40:46Right before going into Folder.
40:48It has that funky intersection.
40:58It's not a smith house, is it?
41:00I'm trying to think.
41:01Is there like some kind of an anniversary that we could like do a sheep story?
41:08That would be well you know I got it from when we went to I think it was the Fitzgerald Cabin.
41:14Is it some of the people telling stories about it?
41:17Cedar City sat on is it summit or cedar?
41:20I think it may be a combination of both and have a sheep drive.
41:23That'd be the rally, yeah.
41:25From the time the the Dallies established the the area back in the day.
41:30And there it always coincides with with um shoring seasons.
41:34So can we do maybe something that would be timed similarly?
41:38Do you have the address in that house?
41:40I imagine there were sheep drives.
41:46Uh yeah, one twenty six.
41:47Maybe we could time it similarly.
41:49I don't know a lot about how all that works.
41:52I don't either, but I'll ask my mom.
41:58She would say that was that easy.
42:06You know, doing it with sheet.
42:24What's the name of that house?
42:26The historical name.
42:43That's not a Steve house.
42:45I don't know, what do you think?
42:50I send the brochure.
42:52I can't remember the or on online.
42:58That's not an account.
43:16It is the David J and M H Smith.
43:18Oh, I thought it was Smith.
43:20Well, it's not in 1899.
43:22I made a spreadsheet if anyone wants it.
43:26Did you send it to me?
43:31Alright, I think that's it.
43:34Okay, can I get a motion to adjourn our meeting?