So whoever's kind of taking notes, can we just send them to me after?

Okay.

Um tomorrow at work and seven.

Is that okay?

Okay.

Hey.

Hello everyone and welcome to March 18th, 2026.

Store preservation commission meeting.

It is 612 p.m.

right now.

Um let's start off with the roll call.

Did I start now or do you want me to make the motion now?

Um let's go ahead and do roll call and then we can do the minutes.

Okay, and then we'll get make tap motion.

Perfect.

I don't want to jump the gun.

Yeah.

All right, roll call.

I'm Annie.

Annie Balbert.

Karina Pace.

Elizabeth Allen.

Krista Hutchison.

Melissa Day.

Wendy Absatz.

Tasha Lowering.

Nancy Nichols.

Jennifer Dostraski.

All right.

And did everyone get a chance to read the minutes from last month?

Yes.

Do we have anyone with any changes?

No.

All right.

Can I get a motion to approve the minutes from February?

February 18th, 2026.

All right.

And a second.

Maybe you two.

All in favor.

Great.

Minutes approved.

All right.

And before we dive into things here, we are going to make a motion to move items 3D and 3E after 3A.

So Nancy can get out of here a little earlier.

So can I get a motion for moving the 3D and 3E after 3A?

I motion.

Okay, and a second.

I can't.

All in favor?

All right.

Motion approved.

Okay.

It is time to jump into things then.

I guess I'll turn it over to you, Kirk.

Okay.

And that could not work.

Well, uh, good evening, everybody.

Uh great to be here again.

Um, can I just get a sense of are there new people on the commission or newish since I've been here last time?

Everybody's been here.

Well, I remember you last time.

Okay, okay.

I know, but I'm not.

New ish.

Okay, she's she's our council liaison here.

Okay, awesome.

Thank you for being here.

Um, all right.

Oh man, that's so pixelated, sorry.

Um that's why you hire us.

So we go out and take the high risk.

Um so yeah, I'm Kirk Huffbaker with Kurt Huffanger Preservation Strategies, and we're really excited to be doing phase two of your reconnaissance level survey uh coming up here uh in the spring.

Um really and this is the launch of it.

So this is where we talk about our methodology, where we're going, what we're doing, give you a chance to ask questions about how we're planning to uh collect the data and document all of these uh great buildings you have.

Um and um just get a sense of that.

So um, and of course this this is really a partnership um mainly between the city, of course you the preservation commission and the Utah State Historic Preservation Office.

Um so that's who uh I certainly look to as the experts in the state.

Um they are also the ones that review all the information we collect and make sure that everything meets National Park Service standards.

And so um they are a big partner in this as well.

And then you of course as the club, we want to make sure that you're happy with the product that we uh give you at the end.

This is our team.

Um Mason and Jessica have both been out here uh as part of phase one.

I brought them out here um and was involved in in both um the first round of surveys with um uh town center and Kimball's lane.

And so they both have have had a little bit of flavor of what we're looking at here.

Um I'll also mention Jessica used to live here in Draper.

Um she grew up here early in her life before they moved to Riverton.

Um so she's really familiar with Draper as well.

So she is really excited about this because it's a place very familiar to her.

So this is our team.

I don't do it alone.

Um, I can't do all of this by myself.

So, but they're uh it's a great team.

So really we have these these three main goals uh with the project.

Um we want to conduct the the reconnaissance level survey to these National Park Service standards and the SHIPO standards that go with that to ensure that everything is compliant.

Um they do have have a high standard, a high bar for us to uh reach for documentation of all these buildings, and um and they want that because we need to have solid clean data to base future work on.

So whether it's the commission doing the work, Jennifer planning doing the work, the city council, we want to have good data for that.

Number two, providing um opportunities for the public to come.

Um, this is a public meeting, um, and you know sometimes.

Um but understand the process.

Um, I think the meeting where we present the results at the end is a little more exciting because we get to see the the fruits of labor, of course, um, and and provide input.

And then third, um we have our due dates here.

We want to complete the major part of this, which is the field work here by the end of April and get that draft report to you by the end of June.

So those are our contracted demons for the project.

So that means if we get a final report, uh a draft ready by June 30.

SHIPO is going to take 30 days or so to review, you're gonna have an opportunity to review and comment as well.

We could be back here, you know, early August potentially for uh reportable results.

So all right, so what is a reconnaissance level survey?

A lot of you are probably familiar with this.

This is a similar process that we did for the first round.

It's a little bit different in that this is really a selective survey.

Um and the first one was maybe a tighter area with a selected survey.

This is a much broader area of selective survey.

Um we've certainly appreciated that groundwork that you all have done in identifying uh the properties that we need to look at.

And this is really just the first cut of what we're looking at in terms of what might be historic out in the landscape.

So with this survey, we're looking at everything older than 1975, so more than 50 years old at this point, 51 years old.

Um, but then we're having to look at the visual quality of the buildings and see if they meet any other historic criteria to be eligible for the National Register because that's eventually what you want to know.

How many eligible buildings do we have, how many that are truly historic or potentially historic.

So this is really our process in four steps.

We're going to go uh survey those selected 423 properties across the city, do some research on those, maybe there are groups of those that seem to go together or eras of buildings that seem to fit together that might share some design relationship.

We take that that uh research and the field work, we produce the final report that gives you the totals of what kinds of buildings you have out there and a context that goes with that to present some history of architecture in Draper City, and then we present those results at the end.

So those are the four kind of big steps.

Here's a little bit more of a breakdown of that.

Um, like with field work, we do uh data collection.

Uh so we're standing in front of buildings and collecting information, we take photos, um, do that research, and then the final report we do analysis of drawing comparisons and contrast to maybe different parts of the city.

So we may see a certain theme or like a subdivision that might really stand out to us, and we'll be able to point that out and provide some analysis of those key places that we see preservation having great potential.

We do um our own GIS mapping that will then sync to the city's mapping as we share shape files and things like that.

So you can have those kinds of uh overlays in the mapping system, and then of course our end with review of comment and editing and final approval.

Any questions about process?

I've kind of gone through a lot of that real quick here.

Oh, I don't know what happened here.

Sorry, I'm cut off in translation, but here's here's a zoom in of of the map.

Um, and and there it's been broken down into several kind of sub-maps of what we're looking at, uh, which is really helpful, Jennifer.

You guys I know put some time over that and um GIS-wise.

So this is just super helpful for us to know you know exactly where we're going, and then already have these kind of sub-maps created um that'll make our field work much easier.

Um but I don't know, does anybody recognize sort of any areas like I just talked about subdivisions and sort of sub-areas that are stand out as unique to you?

I was surprised, but the top left one that there were properties before 1975 in that area.

Really?

Yeah.

Oh interesting.

Okay.

Huh.

Because it seemed like it was all one subdivision that was okay.

Well, yeah, some of them got uh got sage in there, I guess.

Well, some scattered.

So they're pretty chunky, they're lots of fire.

Yes, very concentrated.

Yeah, that's gonna be relation bolter, stacking.

Yeah, yeah.

And then I I mean I kind of feel like we have a bunch, you know, down here further south.

And I I really haven't been this far south.

Where is that exactly?

That's gonna be like a hundred 38.

My house.

Yeah, and I have guaranteed it.

All right, one day you'll see a standard.

Still no lie.

It's a whole house.

Okay.

I mean, that's really historic draper, right?

That's the older sections of paper.

That's where they have a data farms or whatever.

Yeah, right.

So what we're looking for, um, just to go over this again, we're looking for properties that are at least 50 years old, the less we see exceptional significance in its architecture potentially, it could be less than 50 years old.

We may catch something out there, and you know, we added a couple to the last survey that we saw, and we're just like, oh, that's like right on the border, we're just gonna catch that.

That is so weird and unique, and so we brought a couple in, and we might find something here too.

Um, it must retain strong architectural integrity.

So really the rule of thumb there is uh would the original owner come back and recognize that it's the building that they built or that they lived in first.

Um so does it have you know original siding?

Does it have windows, um, not intrusive alterations like big additions that overwhelm the original house, um, things like that.

Um for commercial buildings, it's kind of the same.

Does it have a storefront that's similar to the original?

Signage, does that look original?

Um, you know, the parapet and and detail around that.

So we look for things like that.

And then uh in addition to that architecture age and integrity, we look for the significance in at least one other area or one area.

If it's just about architecture and design, then it's criterion C, significance for architecture.

There are situations where criterion A or B may apply, A being the patterns of social history.

So a lot of times that's our education buildings, religion, commercial buildings can fall under commerce.

And so those are really talking about the broader community and how it evolved in different ways outside of just being uh a building itself and architecture.

And criterion B is association with a significant person.

Um that's a much higher standard to reach.

There's not very many criterion B nominations or eligibility statements out there.

Somebody has to be very important to be under Center B.

So all right, any questions about evaluation?

So I'm going to go through just step by step what we look at when we are standing in front of your house with our clipboard and you know we have a camera with us.

And so we're writing down a bunch of information.

So certainly your address, so we know where we're at, you know, we're comparing it to the map, making sure we're in the right place.

The age or data construction, which we base as architectural historians on our knowledge, uh and the periods of architecture that we know in garden back up.

We're probably gonna go find a um I'm gonna go find a recorder now to report the rest of the meetings just in case it does pop back off.

Um recording again.

So you guys can go ahead and keep talking.

Am I gonna grab a uh actual recorder though?

Just in case it doesn't start.

I'm gonna ask my question.

Okay, if you're standing outside of the historic.

Do you care what's happened inside?

No.

No.

So if they've totally gutted it and all new seating and everything doesn't matter, you know, okay, I don't see what's right.

No, yeah, you have uh you know, 1915 pioneer house, and you've made the inside completely white and sparse and minimalist and lotto.

I don't care.

That's not my data side, just the outside.

So um, so last thing just about evaluation.

The other um I was talking about it may not be eligible because of changes, big changes, um, or it was built after 1975.

So what if there were like changes before 1975?

Or yeah, any alteration before the period that's in nature balance right there.

So does this one have significant trick?

No, um, and but really now we're back.

Okay.

So of course we write down all the materials um that we see on the exterior um that are used, you know, main material, secondary.

We you know, this building's really easy.

We can go up and touch it, you know, it's right on the sidewalk.

But if we're a hundred feet away from the house, we can't necessarily tell if that's vinyl siding or aluminum siding.

We're gonna make our best guess um from a hundred feet away because we never go on private property.

So this is always from the public right-of-way uh that we're observing everything.

It did turn off very quick, and then it turned right back on.

Okay, so it said anyway.

So it's not said, yeah.

And then we look at style.

Um, and again, it's it's based on our our knowledge.

Um, that's when we confirm it later, uh, you know, what what architectural style building is uh the form, so and form is different than style, like um this building we could call uh art moderne in terms of its style, but its form is a one-part commercial block, uh, because it's just one story, it's really just one storefront, um, so it's one part is what we call it.

So, and every building has a different form and style.

Uh we talk about its use, both its its original use and its current use, which may be the same, but it might be different.

We also note any landscape features.

Um, so maybe there are historic fences or uh or uh unattached garages uh that are from the historic period or not.

We count every building on the property, shed, garage, coupe, whatever it is.

Uh and we note if it's um potentially historic or not, just based on age, integrity, a little bit less on outbuildings, they can change a little bit more than the primary building.

But we note all those landscape features.

Natural features do not matter.

We don't know trees, bushes, flowers, stuff like that.

Really, it's just heartscape outbuildings like I just talked about.

We take at least two photographs of every property, uh, two two at least of every primary building and then one of each outbuilding as well.

So and all of that data, you know, you get at the end.

So there are a couple of exceptions.

We do run into these, it's good for you to know.

So if we cannot see the building clearly from the right-of-way, say it's got a long driveway and we can't see around a tree or whatever, we're not gonna walk up that driveway and take a picture of it.

Okay, we're gonna note it on a separate list saying this has been skipped and this is one.

Um the other one is if there's a no trespassing sign on uh some sort of public, you know, what looks like a public street, but maybe it's a private street and it says no trespassing or there's gate, of course, we're not gonna go up that road.

And so there were some of those that first round that we ended up having to skip.

So I assume we'll have a few this round as well.

Any questions about kind of what we do?

We try to do all of that uh in about three minutes.

Well, so it's just based on what you see, like you're not bringing old pictures in to compare.

We do that later.

Okay.

Yeah, during the research phase, we'll go and we'll try to find historic photos in a lot of different places so that we can see if there's possible changes.

Um, especially if there's a question of whether or not a feature is historic, then we really want to get those photos, and usually there's a dozen or so every project that we really need one.

Do you again tell the owners that you're coming to look at this or no?

Just take pictures and leave.

Yeah.

And then we talk to people when they come out.

Yeah, I can at least we can post on our social media.

Yeah, letting people know.

Okay.

You can talk to me when you come to my house.

Yeah, and sometimes people do.

Sometimes you know that's how we learn stuff last round.

And you know, that's fun.

Some people really get into it, and some people are like, please go away.

So um, you know, and then they're like, well, who do you work for?

You know, me and they got hired, and so and then I give them gen first.

All right.

Um see.

All right, what what what is your role here?

What do I foresee your role to be?

And really it's this um, you know, from survey to survey.

So you've already refined really the survey area and the boundary.

Um holding these meetings, of course, are is important.

Um, these have to be public processes.

Reviewing the drafts when they come in and approving the final report.

Um, that is a key role that you have.

Um, and certainly um, you know, owning the findings in in presenting them to the public and then implementing them after that.

And um I know you all will be good at strategizing sort of how to do that, you know.

Um, but really at that point when we turn it over to you, it's yours to do with what you want.

Uh that cut off again.

Darn it, sorry.

Um, so these are all the deliverables.

Um there's what about 12 on there or so?

Um, and really it's the whole laundry list of everything that you turn in.

Um, but we just deliver everything in an electronic file to the state preservation office and the Jennifer and you know lives on your server forever.

So you can print it whenever you want.

So uh all the high resolution photos you can use and all of that sort of stuff.

All right, this is always a question that we get.

Um in anything we do is you know, the question is, is are what is what you're doing going to affect me and restrict me in some way?

And the quite the answer is no.

Anything's going to happen to your property.

We're just documenting it.

Some people come out and they say, Well, you can't take a picture of my house.

I say, Well, I can actually.

I'm in the public right-of-way, and I can I can do that.

Um, you know, anybody could do that.

Google does that.

Drive up and down the street, right?

And you have to appeal to them to get it taken off.

Um this is a little bit different.

Um, you cannot opt out of a reconnaissance level survey.

Um you know, if you tell me no and to go away, I will just come back later.

And just so um there's not an opt out for this.

Um and it doesn't really interrupt anyone's use of their property or anything like that.

They may not like it.

Um, but you know, it's being done completely legally.

Um so uh yeah, there's no opt-out.

I do get that question occasionally.

How do I get out of this?

Um so here's uh just a review of our full schedule.

Um so we're in the you know March April time time frame here, um having this kickoff meeting going into uh survey time, and uh we're this is really prime survey time before the trees leap out, right?

Snow is definitely gone, it's definitely warm enough.

Um so we're gonna be hitting the street here pretty soon, and yeah, I'll let you know when when that's coming um and start collecting that data.

So um and then the preparation of deliverables the next phase and then approval and submit.

So we're done by the end of September.

All right.

Questions?

Anything no right.

Well, thank you for your time.

Really appreciate it.

Uh looking forward to doing this and uh yeah, being back here in a few months.

And of course, I mean, you know, reach out through Jennifer if you have questions or thoughts on anything while we're out there.

So okay, thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay, so the walkthrough video tours.

Um we we're gonna be meeting with the people in the house next to the Dripper Stork Theater, but they've requested that we come and talk to them after Easter.

They have some things going on.

And then we're planning on Friday to do a call with Melissa and me and Jason to Bryce just to let him know, hey, you know, we haven't forgotten you and you know, we had a little delay, but we're gonna be picking up again in the summer, and just to introduce Melissa.

I was gonna ask you that.

You knew I haven't heard of one.

So we'll wait to hear.

So that's basically what we're doing right now for those.

And Bryce is a videographer, right?

Right.

Okay.

What I thought I want to double check.

Yeah, Jason just wanted to make sure he was still in the loop and that we are so planning on you see.

Okay.

All right, um three E.

Three E the Kimball Station.

So Nancy, you had um walked around.

Let's see.

Yeah, actually, I was when Kirk came the last time and he was listing all those homes over in Kimball, I'm like, I haven't seen a lot of those.

So I decided to go out and look at homes over there.

Because we don't have any on our his on our walking tours from that area.

And so I was thinking that might, you know, this is kind of proposing that we add some.

I mean and honestly, if we're looking at this list, I I think it may be another tour.

Yes, that's what I'm thinking.

Yeah, yeah, separate like Campbell's junction tour.

Yeah.

And just to be put online, obviously, because we are not doing the printed.

But I think eventually it'd be really nice if even on the printed ones that we do have.

I don't know how many we have left.

If we were able to do a Q so many.

We've yeah, we've been doing that.

Oh, have you?

Yeah, okay.

So that will bring these up if they get when they get put on.

Yeah.

Okay, so this home, I went to the historic society with Lynn and we looked up what we could buy in about each home.

And this one for some reason came up built as 1992.

However, Thel and Vern lived there long before that.

So that was probably when it was converted to commercial.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, okay.

So I don't have a like a year when I was originally built, but that couple.

It was funny because Lynn found out that she knew the guy that fella married after Vern died.

So kind of a small one.

Yeah, we we do have our constants level survey that Kurt did last fall um that looked at the Kimballs Lane area and our town center area.

Um so the years should be in that document.

Oh, okay, good.

So maybe we can get the year off that because I tried to look online and that one did not have we should be able to.

We should be able to I had hoped I'd have time to actually look at this document before, but I didn't.

Yeah.

I actually wanted to call Paul and ask him about some house too, but I didn't do that.

We should be able to look up all of these houses.

A lot of them I have the year on them.

Because I think they're close enough.

Yeah.

So this one I don't have like that.

They had a name of who what the house is in the historic society, but it's not anyone that you know I've heard of before.

And so I honestly think I need we need to go and like talk to the people if they know any history about it.

But they this was built in 1910.

I don't know if it'll be contributing because I feel like they've changed the outside.

Okay.

Um but we can look and see.

Yeah, well, this is just a lookout and see what do we want to do.

Yeah.

What would we like to add?

And there's also some older homes.

There's a Rasmussen home that there's not anything standing there now.

So this is part of there's um Neils, Dick, and John Boeberg that Neils bought this whole area and then they built.

And I the question I have for Paul is is Neil's house still standing.

Because I didn't see anything.

And this is John Boberk's house.

And we're not sure.

I mean, supposedly he built a house in 1890, and we're not sure if this is the same house.

It's just been changed or if they something is brand new.

I mean, they just tore down what was there and put this up instead.

Yeah, uh-huh.

I don't know.

Um, I know I've been in the front part um years and years ago.

They did change the business.

Oh, okay.

Um, and I'm talking decades.

It's been a long time.

Okay.

But the front part was absolutely stunning.

Fireplace, woodwork.

Oh, okay.

I there are old.

Whether they changed it or not, I don't know.

Yeah, there's there's a family that wrote a letter and sent old pictures from the home that was at this address.

Okay.

So and it does look different than what this is, but that that isn't you know something we can show of an old home too that was there.

And this is Andrew Day home.

It was built in 1895.

They have a big wall in front of it now, so it's kind of hard to see.

So this one was built in 1890 and I couldn't not find any names or anything in the historic society about it.

It is an old home, but I mean again, I might need to just go talk to some people and see if they know anything about it.

Yeah, and this is Sonny Rasmussen's home who you know, he had like a store here.

So yeah, the yeah, they did like people came out, National Geographic came out and talked to him about it and do like a whole thing on it.

But it the Rasmussen other older home is somewhere just straight across on 9th East, but there's no home there now.

But like a I don't think it's his grandfather or I don't know.

I mean, there used to next to Zions Bank there used to be an older home that was torn down maybe five, six years ago.

So that might have been maybe yeah, yeah.

Okay.

This definitely I think should be on it.

This behind this home was the first um railroad station of Draco.

And the person that lived in it was the station master.

Wow cute.

Yeah, so and it's really they have like painting on the bottom and stuff too.

The people that lived there, I trying to remember if they were from Sweden or some country though.

Yeah, it's cute.

That's cool.

Um this one is from 1945.

Obviously, older.

I don't have very much information or stories.

This home, Lynn and I found out in the um in their book, there's a picture and there's something up in the air and it says this is this is before the home was hit by a meteor.

Oh and so we have to find out.

Lynn's gonna ask at their meeting if anybody knows about this story or that's another thing.

But this home had was an older home, and there's a very old picture in the historic society of the previous home, and parts of it are included in this home now.

Fascinating.

Yeah.

I know.

But there's a lot of stories on like this home and this area and stuff.

So I think this one would be a good one to include just for the older stories too of you know, previous pictures we can put up.

That's it.

Um we did have Lynn Kimball's house on here on 118th South.

That is gonna be torn down, so I didn't include it.

Yeah, I don't know if you want to do anything about that.

Well we have I mean the whole area was named after him, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

At the end of the meeting, we're going to be going over demo permits.

Okay.

So Edge Homes has four homes that they're going to be demoing.

Three of them, we actively have demo permits right now.

Unfortunately, Lynn Kimball's is one of them, the others I don't think are really contributing.

And right.

Yeah.

We I went and looked at those homes.

And all of them have holes in them right now.

Yeah, uh fire and police videos on it.

Um so yeah.

Okay.

But yeah, so I didn't include one's property because I guess we could just decide what which of them we want to include and that we think would be good to add to that area.

Okay.

Or if no if someone else knows about other ones too that we can look at to.

And the reconnaissance level survey should be on the Draper Cloud.

So you guys should be able to access that and be able to look at the other home.

Yeah, look at the other home.

Okay.

If you can't find a link in the side, okay.

Okay, okay.

Can you share this document with us so we can look at it?

Yes.

I sure can take a look.

Good work, Nancy.

Yeah, really.

Great idea.

It's on the area that I feel like doesn't really get lumped often.

Right.

It looks like there's some old homes there that I wouldn't have guessed, like 1800s.

Yeah.

All right.

Um okay.

Going back into our uh regularly scheduled programming here.

Um 3B Historical Society coordinates.

Um, because I sounds like you're leaving early.

Um would you be able to go to the next meeting?

Yeah, perfect.

My uh schedule doesn't go for the next one.

I'd be great if you can go to that.

Okay.

Um, but some updates from that meeting is very fun.

Um let me look.

So I did remind them that um Nancy's brother-in-law is the grandson of Ebenezer Brown.

Um it's on like Lane said that they he would contact you.

Okay.

He said he would do that.

Um and then talking about the banquet, that's in June.

I think July.

Um yeah, they're looking at potentially getting um a group together to play like old, not old, like uh music from the 18 like uh the 1900s.

Um to like play about 30 minutes uh during the dinner.

It sounds like he was gonna reach out to um, I don't know if it was the school or I think it's a school.

Yeah, the schools, both the schools.

Yeah.

Um so yeah, Lane Wright is making that group.

Um and then about the grants.

I have an earlier that said they called Kelly twice, but they haven't been able to reach is not Kelly, is Kelly doing the grants that we're doing.

Oh, it's the oral history or which are actually on hold right now.

Yeah, those are all put on.

Okay.

Gotcha.

Yeah, that was through Shippo and that got put off.

Okay, yeah, they were asking about the deadline because they were not sure about it.

Um and they also wanted to know what the amount was.

Three thousand.

Three thousand.

But yeah, I'll let you know there's updates.

Okay.

Linda did you want to talk inventory.

Yeah, inventory.

Um I want to get back out there to do another inventory date.

Um, I'm looking at my calendar and it looks like March 30th, which is not this coming Monday, but the Monday after I'll be available.

I'll reach out to Lynn to double check that that'll work.

But um, does is anyone available updates?

Like, does that work for people?

What's when um six to eight?

Thumbs up, thumbs up.

Yeah.

Okay, perfect.

I'll double check with Lynn and then I'll send out an email to everyone um verifying that date and time.

I will not be bringing anybody to help that time.

Okay.

We tried so hard.

So all right.

Um National Register of Historic Places.

Um yeah, um, just letting you guys know Chapel by the Wayside is officially on the National Register.

Um that got approved.

Um, and then just the uh contract update.

So last meeting you guys approved, uh going with Coral for the two nominations that we're gonna work on.

Um we're working through the contract now.

Hopefully we'll have that here shortly and we'll be able to I have a question for you um from the volunteer breakfast.

on the national register um that got approved um and then just uh uh contract update so last meeting you guys approved uh going with coral for the two nominations that we're gonna work on um we're working through the contract now hopefully we'll have that here shortly and we'll be done i have a question for you um from the volunteer breakfast the mayor mentioned oh yeah there being a museum in that chapel yes it they haven't decided the use of okay in museum okay that might be a good use for it okay all right okay we went so we'll see moon ours and TB that would be something that we would organize okay pose and you know maybe shift the stuff from there to there you know once you've categorized it all and figured out like what really should be displayed and now okay yeah I think the historic society thought that that's what was going to happen yeah well it certainly could okay yeah okay I was gonna say though for the banquet the schools aren't in session so sometimes yeah well that's hard to get well that's why they want them to um do a flyer to pass up to the students so if the group of them want to organize something they could do it on their own that what about reaching out toward private music schools like isn't that school of rock and then there's like another one thing I'll mention that when I go to the meeting yeah okay one band is always moving battle about school of rock okay yeah so they're in session year round so they might have a that's a good idea yeah I'll share that yeah piano place yeah yeah the other one I was thinking of which might yeah work for this right that's a good idea all right um jumping down three F walking to our brochures okay so um as you know we don't have any more of the display items we don't have anybody to buy me so I did ask uh the historical society and then told me that they do have permission to buy them so we just need to get the order information and the couple what order them what to order uh to land and they will order them and they'll be able to be reimbursed and everything because they don't actually have a budget they have to ask every time if they want uh they can buy something but she did ask and I said yes okay so she will get the that order so we start doing something before July 1 with the brochures again and then um I'm the historian for the um sons of the Utah pioneers the brigham young chapter that meets at uh an Orum at the UVU uh culinary arts um institute and so we have this fabulous gourmet dinner and then we have a wonderful lecture Tom Alexander's our chair for the lectures so we have bagged people and the last lecture was uh I'm sorry I can't remember his last name Jay but he's a professor at the BYU of history and uh he has major his main area is Western history and Indian history and uh American Indian and um so he was giving a lecture on she industry in Utah and so since we had all these homes here in um Brook Street and around Draper that were basically able to be uh built because of the sheep industry why I asked if I couldn't hand out our brochure or and so before the meeting I was saying well the and he did not know that Draper was such a center for the sheet so he was really surprised and he gave me his contact he's very interested in finding more information about sheep and draper and the money that was made so that some of these big homes could um be built even that one has sheep up on the roof so um middle silhouettes and so uh I was able to briefly talk about sheep and draper and then have that brochure and I had a lot of takers but a lot of people said they wanted to come and uh see the houses and they wanted to go in the draper museum and historical society museum and uh so that's all I was able to do there but um we do have the display um things coming and we do have the the sheep and I was able to pass out the brochures and then um so that that was pretty exciting uh be able to do that fantastic thank you so glad you have those with you yeah yeah all right 3G America 250 participation I um did not attend the last meeting so I do not have an update but the next meeting's April 1st and I will be there jennifer I think you can just have Krista be on America 250 okay because I'm not able to go to this meeting okay Kelly Chelberg goes you can always ask her what they talked about yeah she sent me a list of uh what they went over but it was it sounded like it they rehashed a lot of what we discussed at the first meeting so not a lot was I think decided so but the next one maybe three H Juneteenth all right um so if you

You can always ask her what they talked about.

Yeah, she sent me a list of uh what they went over, but it sounded like it they rehashed a lot of what we discussed at the first meeting, so not a lot was I think decided.

So the next one maybe.

All right.

Um so if you read the draft of the article that I shared at the last meeting, it hasn't changed.

We were trying to pin down just a couple more details, like we are not sure if George Bankhead brought his actual children with him here because his wife had passed away before he moved to Draper.

So I think that he probably sent his children to live with his brother-in-law where they would have a mom in Wells and they moved to Wellsville.

We don't know, and it doesn't really matter because we're focusing on the enslaved bankhead, the enslaved people that George Bankhead owned.

I just would like to know who was in the household here so that we have clarity because if it was just him and then he had you know a number of enslaved people, most of them were children, then that's a little bit different than if he was also somehow trying to raise his three young children by himself and like the one baby was born here after they migrated in 1848.

So that's kind of the one outstanding thing.

Annie's been great about looking at ancestry and whatnot to see if we can track down where any of the other after slavery ended.

Um if we can track down sort of later in life where some of these people were and we haven't found anything that really changes what we had in the draft.

I've done a lot of research on the um, but I haven't come up with it.

They have checked the census of uh 1860, uh, but they just seem to disappear.

There is a bankhead family in Draper.

Yeah, still still.

Yeah, I don't know.

Maybe they're there.

I don't know.

Oh, then's going to look into that.

The next meeting she's going to ask the members if they know any bank head.

She said, you know, probably somebody knows.

She didn't know any of she's been here for over 50 years, but she didn't know.

But uh here's uh you should ask you a little bit.

Oh, what is this, David?

That's a picture of uh George Washington Bankhead.

Oh wow and his brother.

John Henderson Bankhead.

So when I was looking at bankheads and this really off the draper topic, but the family in Wellsville um was large and powerful and um connected to like Senator Bankhead from Alabama who was in Congress in what maybe the 30s.

George Bankhead that had the slaves.

That is great.

What do you send that?

So here's the thing that we have to decide.

Um the draft is 1200 words and Alex gave us about a 500 word space.

Oh shit.

They're mean about the one for a long time.

Yeah, the publication is small.

And we could have them put the floor up on the website.

Yeah, um and direct people to the website for more.

Yeah, for more information.

You could try to end it with a little bit of a hook.

You want to find out, you know, yeah.

There's more the whole article's on the website.

Yeah, right.

Which would allow us to put more images with it because he really didn't think that they were just no at least put one something.

Yeah, Jen, maybe.

Alex, I can't make the decision.

That's right.

No, no, it's I said they give at least one.

So please here's some pictures of the black.

Okay.

I don't know, I haven't just sent it to me, so I need I have any topic of what they are, but anyway.

We do have a picture of uh George Washington Bankhead and his brother, and of course he was the one that was the good job, David.

So yeah I will just work on paring down a version to go in it's draper forward right yeah in draper forward um and the nice thing about putting the longer piece on the web is that if other information turned up later we can always add it in yeah so does that sound okay sounds good things okay thanks Wendy and um oh also on this research um I don't know what I should mention about um the senior center wanting to have the uh uh program about the history of draper and so um uh that's gonna happen we're not we don't have a date yet but uh Lynn contacted what's the lady's name who wrote the book recently the picture book about draper she came here and got the information about our what we do oh for the for the draper journal book they're she did that she came here one time and interviewed uh Annie and some people about what we do and then it appeared in the I think oh the draper yeah the Draper journal yeah that was uh Catherine Weinstein Weinstein yeah Weinstein's right yeah okay well anyway Lynn's contacted her and she's willing to come and do the presentation at the senior center about the history of draper great that was one other thing that we had on the agenda we talked about with historical people but anyway they have that's going to happen so okay great and I want somebody to also mention uh a band about what we do so as soon as we have a day I'll give you further information on that perfect um okay three eye draper ethic and minority history research David Van so I was able to make contact again with uh my chicogie remember he went on a mission and he's back now and he's recovering from surgery but voila book yes so now he given me permission to scan this and then I want to scan that I give him a thumb drive while he will try and get some members of his family to put on family search and then uh he will help and he has some uh older ants and that they're still alive and so he'll they'll try and do more than they can about identification so and then he and he hasn't decided he's thinking about whether he will then give uh thumb drive to the historical society or if he will give the actual photographs and things he has to decide he said he's not being all that well since he was at the operation and um he um he just doesn't want to make that decision right now and then I only have um photocopies but he has a lot of photocopies of the mostly that buildings um uh that but they're in they're much later than the 1997 and so forth of the buildings that were on the agi phone uh the Kagi farm so I don't know um I'll have to talk he didn't really want to talk a lot because he wasn't doing well but anyway there's the some of the other photographs of at least we have documentation and we can give those to the historical society for their library but yeah of course there's this is one of the families that we already know a lot about the Kagi family and that we'd like them no more because we know there were other Japanese families here as well as other ethnic groups but anyway uh really have and uh he has more photograph albums that he I thought we were going to scan but then he went on this mission to the Philippines and and uh he didn't want to do anything about uh disturbing the people that rented his home because they were in the basement because he didn't want to have anybody go in even his brother and get the so but he said he's he's willing to work on that as his health permits so okay great still a fairly young man so um hopefully he'll and he really is interested in the Akagi family being having their footprint uh draper's history so great so that was really exciting to make contact with him again and he's still interested

about the Kagi family and that we'd like them no more because we know there were other Japanese families there as well as other ethnic groups but anyway uh really have and uh he has more photograph albums that he I thought we were going to scan but then he went on this mission to the Philippines and and uh he didn't want to do anything about uh disturbing the people that rented his home because they were in the basement and he didn't want to have anybody go in even his brother and get the vote but he said he's he's willing to work on that as this health permit so okay great still a fairly young man so um we go and he really is interested in the a coggy family being having their footprint uh and rapers history so great so that was really exciting to make contact with him again and he's still interested in and uh this was something from before too that if you haven't and the the the house on the cogie farm was originally owned by uh w vendus and then showed you what the house looked like at one time and this is the LDS tiding house that still exists that is still there we thought and then take him to the scribe but Nancy did go by and was identified that that that so we really I don't know what happened to the owner he was the one that actually put me in contact with my a coggy and he was really interested in getting on the his his uh a plaque for his house and everything and then he defends whole turkey and when talking about it apparently somebody gave him some information that if you go with the historical plaque and everything you lose um property rights or something but yeah but we really should do something about documenting that the tithing house uh that looked really something yeah we we really worked with the new owners after they bought the coggy house to try to get them to put it on the national register um they were it sounded like they were interested at first and then they kind of went away and then they started kind of ignoring ignoring us so we that is on I so I think we could you know try again later but but I think let's work with Mike Akagi to get the research that we can from him that will help inform uh the history that we have of the property and the structures right and hopefully one day we'll be able to get the owner to want to put in the national register be interested in hearing what benefits that does have.

Yeah especially since it goes back to it was originally the MS family's home too so great all right I'm so glad that you made that contact good job David all right widowmaker widowmaker okay so I have a couple updates for you on that I'm just gonna open up a couple couple things here um we do have a signed agreement with the county um I have gotten with our public works team and our parks and racks team I think that that we will be able to do the work in-house so we won't have to worry about that it'll be more timing and then um materials and stuff will probably have to come out of my budget because you guys probably don't have any and then I'll take whatever dollars I can from your ask for mine um but it'll be but uh parks will be able to relocate the irrigation and public works will be able to do the concrete work and the posting so that's not um yeah so that should work out um so I do need to order the mounting plate that will have the county logo on it um so the quote we got from environor science for that mounting plate was 830 dollars um now I did we did look at that I'm pretty sure I added this to the budget yeah the mounting plate we had added to the budget um and this is kind of figuring 8,000 um well over 8,000 for their constants level survey with the rest of that amount coming in the new year um so I don't know exactly how much will get built before uh July 1st but the majority of their work will be done before July 1st um so yeah so if I can get a motion to accept this bid and get that um ordered I'll go ahead and get with in viral signs and get it ordered.

before uh july 1st but the majority of their work will be done before july 1st um so yeah so if i can get a motion to accept this bid and get that um ordered i'll go ahead and get with environment signs and get it ordered so i moved that we accept the the second all in favor sorry guys i'm trying to write she's doing notes sorry my hand is falling asleep okay okay motion made okay so i'll get that ordered um given the time it took to get the original plaque i imagine it'll be a couple months before we get the mounting plate so once i have the idea of timing on that i can get with uh public works and parks and rec and the county and you guys can figure it out i know jason wanted to have once it's mount once it's the flocks installed have a little ceremony and like the kimball family and that kind of thing um yeah great that's exciting to hear all right uh demolition permits yeah so um edge uh homes property there by the kimball's front runner station we do have demolition permits in for for that project um so this is the olivary farm on kimbles line across from the kimbles track station why that's not loading there so there's four four homes that they'll demo i think we have done demo permits for three of them right now but link kimball's home on kimball's lane um these two homes here off 119th and then this uh third one off 119th south um we do have um images of the of the different homes the ones on 119th south um really aren't well one of them isn't in the period but the others really aren't um contributing but we'll kind of just look through the pictures this one's too new um let's see i don't have okay i don't have pictures of the uh third one because they haven't applied for that one yet um it's in better shape than the others but it's still not uh contributing i think um and then uh this is lynn kimball's house um edge did get us pictures from before they uh did before they let policem fire do any training that they got from uh the kimball family so we do have some images of what the property used to look like i think this is right before they they sold it um and if you drive past it now there's holes in the roof and all kinds of stuff um so i i think that's i mean the the images so we can kind of document what was there plus the information we have in the cross we're constantly level survey i think is sufficient for for the commission but i wanted to let you know that those are coming down um yeah um is this the amended agenda uh uh it looks like it's not i did send uh uh yeah there it is uh sorry yeah sorry about that um oh yeah i got it perfect so i got a call from uh lynn orgal yesterday oh no my messed one away there it is okay so she said that um sherry smith who lives in the one of the smith historic homes on relation street is doing some preservation work on their windows and she has a friend that is interested in selling some historic bricks um she wanted to know if we were familiar with anyone that would be interested in these historic bricks um they are from the carlisle home in alpine that's all that she knew um but they are selling these bricks in order to recoup some of the money so that they can keep working on preservation since we didn't get CLG grants this year so if anybody knows of anyone that is also doing restoration work that needs bricks from a certain time period um they should reach out to sherry smith okay so keep that in the back of your mind okay perfect um all right action items okay um i have that i will share that uh document from nancy on the kimball's area homes and i'll also send you guys a link to that rl s for that area

Okay.

So keep that in the back of your mind.

Okay.

Perfect.

All right, action items.

Okay.

I have that.

I will share that document from Nancy on the Kimballs area homes.

And I'll also send you guys a link to that RLS for that area.

Nancy will be attending the next Historical Society meeting.

I will get with Dave and Lynn on the Burchureholders to let them know what I've ordered in the past.

Annie, you're working on coordinating another inventory day with the historical society.

Chris say you'll be attending America 250 meetings.

One day you're gonna uh continue working on the Draper Forward article for Juneteenth, and then so we'll have one for the website and one for the uh Draper Forward and then uh David, you're gonna be working on scanning the micakogagi information and working on Tembo.

Anything I'm missing?

Yeah.

Okay.

Great.

All right, can I get a motion to adjourn the meeting?

A motion.

Okay, all right.

Meeting adjourned.

Is it okay?