It's like they're growing in the back.

Yeah, they they took they bought that shelly.

I went in there and looked at it.

That's cool.

I know they're doing like farming lavender and stuff.

So very cute.

Okay, I'm gonna I'm recording two different ways.

So I'm gonna start one and then I'll start the other.

Recording in progress.

So we're recording two of the things.

Hold on.

Recording stuff I think myself.

Okay.

Uh Dave, did you have that information from the bank heads from the cars?

Uh-huh.

Share it another time.

Okay.

Okay, for a recording.

Okay, we go to start?

Yes.

Welcome to Historic Preservation Commission meeting for June 17, 2026.

It is 6.01 PM.

Uh let's start off with a roll call.

Um Annie Bomber.

Elizabeth Allen.

James Wiggins.

Melissa Day.

David Hayoff.

Corina Fates.

Lynn Orble.

Shandigon Dallas.

Nancy Nichols.

Jennifer Tremsky.

Okay, great.

Did everybody get a chance to read the previous meeting minutes?

Yes.

I have one change that we need to use that Melissa sent out that I got Colonel the uh confused again.

Um I think of the historical society I just that needs to be changed to a little bit.

Um 3A.

Item 3 I guess to it.

Perfect.

Do we need a motion to yes?

Okay, can I get a motion to change Melissa's name to Elizabeth on item 3A?

My motion with anything.

Yeah, second second.

Okay.

All in favor.

Okay.

Motion approved.

So was the motion second?

Sorry.

Um Jason.

Jason was second.

Second.

Okay.

I will try to do better.

For the record.

Wendy and uh Krista.

It took me several months to remember what I'm saying.

That's just startling not ended.

I realized in that motion I said nothing about approving the minutes.

So I guess we'll make another motion to approve the minutes with that change.

I motion to approve the minutes with the change.

Alright.

Alright, all in favor.

Okay.

Great.

Sorry about that.

Alright.

Okay, popping down into our agenda items.

Historical society coordination.

Elizabeth.

So their meeting happened before our meeting.

Oh.

Today?

No.

Last month.

Oh that's why.

Okay.

Yeah, yeah.

So that it happened early.

So I didn't go to it then.

No, I didn't know either.

When is the next one?

So we don't is it what m when is your next meeting?

I believe it's next Monday.

It's the last Monday of the month.

Is that gonna be the last Monday?

Is that the last one?

Or the two Mondays away.

Okay, it's gonna be on the 29th.

Okay.

Which is a week from next Monday.

Yeah, yeah.

Would you be on the other hand?

Along with that, uh the I'm uh president of the uh Draper Senior Center uh uh advisory committee.

And uh we're sponsoring a history day.

Um Catherine Weinstein is coming uh to give a presentation.

We have a lot of people that don't know they they moved here because their kids have lived here or even old timers who don't know a lot about history drapers.

So uh Catherine Weinstein uh published that book about the picture book about history draper, and she's going to come and give a presentation on June the twenty fifth at 10 30 a.m.

at the senior center.

That's cool.

And along with that, uh starting in September, Lynn is going to give or arrange for a presentation every month at the senior center about some aspects of the history of Draper, whether it be a family, whether we ban uh anyway, let's start that out in September.

We do have a lot of people are very knowing where they live, and they don't know much about history, so that's what we'll be helping along the way with uh the senior center.

Perfect.

That's really exciting.

Sad I can't go to this one.

Are you guys going to record them at all?

Are we what are we going to record them or live stream them or anything?

Okay, we're not that I'd ask.

Well, let me know how it is.

I want to know everything.

Yeah.

All right.

Okay, so we have the Nancy's going to the next meeting.

Okay, perfect.

Are we gonna put a date on the calendar for the inventory?

Oh, yeah, we should do that.

Can we do that right now?

Let me look at my calendar.

Sorry guys.

It's been crazy.

Uh how's the 22nd looking?

The mid month?

Yeah.

What time?

Uh six to eight.

Sure.

Sure.

Uh this it's the museum.

It's just kind of available then to let us in.

As far as I know, I should be available.

Okay.

Okay.

Going into the calendar.

Perfect.

All right.

Anyone else that wants to join?

We will be doing inventory.

Um, it's really fun.

There's lots of things.

You say the 22nd.

Yeah, six to eight.

The watch is there, the calendar is not.

Yeah, agree.

That's why it's been three months.

That's that's so cool.

So interesting though, the things we've been seeing and learning.

Yeah.

All right.

Okay, so Nancy's going to the next meeting the 29th.

We'll be doing inventory the 22nd.

Beautiful.

Okay, beautiful.

Thanks, Melissa.

You're welcome.

Keep me in check.

All right, moving on to the budget review.

Okay.

Um, I wanted to just go over this year's budget since this is the last month of this fiscal year.

Um, everything in yellow.

I don't have final numbers yet.

Um I did reach out to both Coral and Kurt to kind of let them know their deadline to get invoices in for this fiscal year, um, which for anything that they've done, you know, prior to July 1st.

I think we've got like three weeks to get it paid in the new year.

So they're aware of their deadlines to get us things.

I think this will be fairly on for that.

Um talking to her he'll be at our August meeting by the end of this month.

We should have the draft.

So I'll have that to you guys to review during July, and then he'll be at the August meeting for a presentation, and we'll need to get him comments.

Um so I'm I'm fairly certain on this amount because we'll be just a little bit that'll go into the next year.

Um Corals.

I'm not sure how much will come out of this year's budget versus next year's budget, just because I know she started a couple months later than we had originally thought.

Um, just because we were going through you know the contract stuff.

Um, and then I do have a line here for materials.

I don't know why I put labor, not gonna pay for labor.

Um, but materials.

I did get a bill from uh public works, it was about a thousand dollars for the um I kind of just put in what was left to bring it down to zero.

So hoping I've I've got to pay this in the next two weeks, so I'm hoping I'll have you know these bills and be able to adjust this or know how how best I can adjust this.

I'm gonna cover the rest of it through my budget.

Um so we'll see if you know Kurt comes in a little bit less, I'll have that difference down here.

Um, so we'll just see.

Or I might just have to go with this amount and see what Coral fills us.

So um, so that'll be all we'll go back over this.

I think in uh August.

You guys can see what the final numbers were.

comes in a little bit less all out of that difference down here um so we'll just see or I might just have to go with this amount and see what Coral's so um so that'll be I'll we'll go back over this I think in in uh August you guys can see what the final numbers were um so then going into the new year um I've got kind of that remaining amount for the reconnaissance level survey which you'll really be kind of fine tuning the final draft um plan the um video tour I believe that's the home by that's not the Bray home but also when we went and talked to them they are wanting more time to get their home ready for it the um smith rasmuson home next to the theater so I don't know if we want to I don't know if they want to take a whole year I don't know they'd be like really excited about it and maybe making effort towards it.

Yeah it may be a little while maybe next spring yeah so that would still be in the well that would still be in this year.

Yeah so that's the the Smith Rasmussen home.

Your destination is on the left that's meant to call me to say somewhere wrong um okay so there's there's room to to do some things I figured but getting the plaques for the Isaac Stewart home and Dan Williams home um I think that's what we paid for the last plaque we did um which would have been the auto clock yeah so that was the last plaque so I went ahead and uh did that um so that gives us a little bit more room um six thousand left now that um if coral doesn't bill everything before you know the end of this fiscal year that's gonna go into this upcoming fiscal year things for the widowmaker ceremony um will go into next fiscal year so our budgets don't roll over no they do not okay yeah they do not roll over so coral um hope that she and I'll send another email out to her so yeah so we'll have to um call because I know we're gonna have you know things for that um or the others kind of so there is kind of looking at these there's six thousand dollars uh so that's gonna be drink supplies for ceremony um whatever coral doesn't bill us this year um I don't know if there's other things that you guys want to look at adding to this um and we can obviously look at this again in the new year as well um and by then I'll know what actually got paid out of this year's reasons what carry over um but yeah there's things that we want to add um or you think we're gonna need do we have like a running list of properties that are interested in getting one to register and like where we're going with that not that I'm aware of okay I think one yeah I think my well my hope was with their constant level survey it's gonna tell us what houses are actually eligible and then the commission can look at that and decide what houses they want to reach out to the owners on um because yeah there's definitely the budget if we want to um do one or two more houses I just I don't frankly I think uh just knew everybody asked me what was the I just called them asked but she made that list yeah that list yeah I have that too okay let's let's compare that to reconnaissance level survey can you email it to me at the list I can I have to scan it all okay it's on paper I believe okay I'm pretty sure I still have okay you should still have it too because you got a hard drive download right I have a lot of I have a lot of files from her.

Okay.

I'm pretty sure I still have you should still have it too because you got a hard drive download, right?

I have a lot of I have a lot of files from her.

Let me let me see if I'm gonna go.

Oh yeah, I can for sure.

Yeah, the paper.

I have I believe I have her Excel file.

I'll do that.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

That would be easier to go.

Okay, whoever finds that first, email it to me and I'll do a cross comparison with the RLS.

I think we actually have a little less money.

I don't know if you're total updated.

And so I think we're probably closer to five.

Oh, yeah, I don't think it added in that extra 1200 for the original.

Yeah, I put this.

Well, do we even need that one on there?

Because I we don't have any plan at all in the near future about doing that one.

This Miss Raskinson?

No, the the Relia fit sheriff.

Oh that's that one take that one off.

We haven't even heard she's because she wanted to get her renovation done before we did that.

There we go.

Okay.

But also if you add, I don't know, five, six, number bucks for the Lidow Maker ceremony.

I have no idea.

Yeah.

Okay.

So we're closer to like 4500.

It's still left to be budgeted.

Yeah.

Okay.

That's not too shabby.

So we'll I'll I'll put it up a budget discussion on for August as well.

Then we can see how the year ended up as far as what we get built from uh Coral and Perk and then um what carried over or what will carry over for this coming year.

Perfect.

All right.

Moving on.

Provo historical walking tour.

That's me that I went to quickly.

I ran down there.

It was fun.

So um they had it set up there, they they started in the historic church building there that was right by the homes because they just did it like in a block with one house across the street, too.

And so they kind of did like a little tour in the chapel of the church telling the history of it, and then they also had a QR code at all the places that you could pull up information on the homes.

So you could like look at the the history as you're standing there in front of the home to refet it.

So that was there in the chapel.

Want to go to the next one.

Okay, and then they had like three different maps that they look to be older maps of the homes that they were doing there.

That's another one.

How many homes did they have?

Just the one one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight homes.

Okay that they did.

Most of them you could go in, and they had like little booties for people to wear that they handed out at the church and also at some of the the homes, but those like were gone soon.

So I gave mine to someone and they were very happy because I left them.

And then they also had a person from historic preservation and from landmark commission that were there in the culture hall talking to people who had questions about homes, and they had this information about how to research the history of your own home or others.

Um I had an interesting discussion with both of them in regard to um problems that people who put their home on the historic um I want to say register register getting insurance on the home.

Really?

That some insurance companies will not insure a historic home because they feel like they have to restore it to the puts it out of the actuary tables that that's probably where it is.

Yeah, and so I was mentioning to her really good to come up with a list of insurance companies who will ensure a historic home.

So people that that um because that's something that might want to be discussed when someone's talking about wanting to be on it, whether or not their insurance company will cover that.

And if not, then maybe they might consider another one.

Okay, we can go to the next one.

This was one of the homes that did not let us in.

So he just the man on the left was giving the history of the home from outside.

Um, I liked how he like had everyone, he asked everyone, so what was happening in 1930 whenever the home was built.

What was happening at that time?

And so he kind of like gave them a feel of what it was like when they built the home and what caused them to build it the way they did, you know, cut coming back from the war and having been in other countries and seeing the homes there and stuff.

So that was interesting.

Okay, and this is the inside of a couple homes.

Most of the homes, um, some of the homes had the owners that were in there just sitting and talking to people as they came in, and there was a lot of people going in and out of the homes.

Um, some of them have you know redone the homes a lot, so they're not you know original, but um, these are just a couple of the homes inside.

Okay.

This was my favorite.

This is this is Reed Smooth's home, and I look had to look him up.

He was a um I'm not gonna remember.

He was in in government, but he was also an apostle for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints at the same time.

And um the interesting thing about this home is that it stayed in the family.

So this is the great grandson right there that in the blue shirt pointing out, and they did not let you in the home, but they had the door, and I should have taken a picture in going looking through the door, but it looks like it's never changed at all.

Like you're just stepping back in time because it looks you know original, and he was telling people there about he says in that time period in order to clean people with paint rather than cleaning something.

That was the thing.

So um, and he was telling about the paint they had put.

Um they I can't remember if I gave you the picture too of the yard that people were going around looking at the backyard and stuff too.

So it was a very interesting tour.

I'm glad that I went to see it.

And who sponsored it?

Um just the historic preservation and landmark commission down there, and it's part of the freedom days that they do.

And so um what was it?

Oh, one thing I liked if you can go back to that picture right before.

One thing I really like too was he put an original picture of the home out in front on an easel so you can see what it looked like.

That'd be an interesting idea for ours too.

Yeah, that's what I'm gonna do with the home.

I'm I'm gonna be the Rasmussen Smith Rasmussen home, and I have an old picture that when you look at it, you wouldn't even realize it's the same home.

Yeah, that's pretty cool, like touring in different states like Maine and Pennsylvania where I've gone into old restored homes where they have those original pictures and you can see really gives a good anchor reference point.

I'm gonna have one for the the Smith Rasmussen home, and I also have a really good picture of this store on the corner that I'm gonna have for people to see.

And the theater pretty much looked the same.

The open old pictures I looked at.

When didn't I noticed when I was coming?

Oh, yeah, there's the store right there.

But look at that house, it's got multicolored bricks.

Oh yeah.

Which one?

The Rasmussen House.

I know kidding.

I've never realized that before.

The bricks are different colors.

Oh, yeah, noticed that either.

I know I think it's old home that I looked at though.

When you look at the picture, you're like, okay, I can see from the lines this is the same home, but doesn't look at all like the home now.

That is so home.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I pretty much that's the interesting thing about that home in the back.

The the um the brick one.

The fishers, the one way behind.

They bought that land and that home because he used it as his office.

The person who lives in the Smithson home, and it's older than the Smith Erasmus home.

It was built earlier than that.

So and I got an old I went to the and they they still own.

No, it's torn down.

That's where all those businesses are right now.

It's just torn down a few years ago.

Oh, I know it's 2020, I think, is when it got torn down.

So not too long ago.

Oh, you're right.

Yeah.

Okay.

That's it for this.

Cool.

Well, thanks for going and sharing that day.

That sounds like it was a good tour.

Yeah, it was fun.

All right, segueing right into our Draper Days tour.

Um what if we did the big pictures on the easels?

Because that would be the new budget.

And those aren't too expensive.

We got some for each of the properties and just supplied that.

Um if we did that though, are there easels floating around here?

I have my own for mine.

Oh, you're fancy.

Go over there and get things because they had people take things.

Um I can ask.

Okay.

I know we have some, but whether they're already planned to be used for the different events, I don't know.

I'll check the museum too.

I might have some.

Are there some of the um historic society museums?

Yeah, do you guys have you have that old bit of school stuff or church stuff and things?

But I think I have a couple in my garage too.

Okay.

So we'd only need I'll check the rest of the sets from that.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah, so not too many.

Oh, and I don't know if I can say this now, but speaking of finding people of homes that have the same family living in it.

We ran across one when we were when we went out.

When we were the McGuire's that their family has lived in it, it's right across the street from the cemetery.

But 1882 it was built, and it's family that's had it the whole time.

Yeah, that was really interesting.

It's interesting.

Um so for the tour, it's on the 14th of July from 6 to 8.

Is that what it is?

Yeah.

Okay.

And um I should probably do we have a meeting place that everyone's starting at?

If we do, is it just see the parking lot?

That's what I'm saying.

Is that advertised?

It's always just on the website, but it'll be on in the Draper Forward as well.

Oh and it sounded like there was enough room that they were gonna put a map.

Oh, okay.

So really I mean people can park in the park, they can park along the park school, they can park in front of the theater.

And just go backwards on it.

Now the house, the Rasmussen's house won't be on the map.

That's fine.

Because we're not we didn't want to put somebody's private residents on it.

Right, that's fine.

Because I'm just gonna kind of I'm gonna be in front of the theater, but I'll just point it out and have pictures of it there where I'm at.

Okay.

Oh yeah.

So that'll direct people to where to go because they'll have a little map.

Okay.

Perfect.

That's the plan anyway.

There's something else to fill the spot.

They better not.

So no, there'll be something about the tour.

Um, but the question was, well, they said if if there's room, we'll put a map too.

Yeah, all in the draper board.

Okay.

And I think there's gonna be work.

Perfect.

Either way, there'll be a map on the website.

Okay.

Sounds good to me.

And then does somebody need to coordinate to get like the signs put out?

The physical signs?

Yeah.

Who has those?

Angie.

I talked to her, and I've got to go.

That reminded me, I've got to go over and they're in her garage.

Okay.

I've got to go pick them up.

Get those.

I wanna say the city has some, but maybe she took them.

Yeah, she said she has some in her garage.

Because uh the only advertisement I saw so far that came out, I can't remember where I saw it, her pictures on there.

Yeah, so I sent her a message and saying, your picture went out.

She's oh by the way, I have all the signs in my garage.

Can someone come get them and then I'm over?

Okay, great.

Pick them up.

Let me know if you need help putting them out.

Oh, okay.

For like because we have the big ones that are the advertisement ones, and then we have the small ones that will be with each of the stops.

Okay, yeah, she was wondering if I was gonna have room to put in my so we want to bring in my van.

Oh, I also have a truck if you need extra.

Okay, all right.

I can give you the keys to my truck.

I won't be in the state.

No, no, no, I know I talked to someone I know I did you about possibly us selling some of our books.

Okay.

Yep, yeah.

Yeah, I think as long as there's no conflict.

Yeah, I don't think that's an issue.

Yeah, perfect.

So are we okay to set them up a Venmo account or do they have to be cash only?

Probably not because who's gonna carry cash?

No, Venomo.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But but my can well, I don't know.

How what do you guys usually accept when you sell books?

Well, they usually write them, they either pay cash or usually things will pay a check to Draper City.

But okay, this is the dilemma of mine, and I'm not sure.

The books were printed by our group a million years ago with our money.

So does the money we make go to Draper City or does it go?

But we don't have an account anymore.

Historical society does not have an account anymore.

So that's kind of the dilemma.

Um I can set up my Venmo, but it's gonna come to me and then we're gonna take it out and give it to the historical society, or are we going to get in trouble for that?

Let me look into it because I do not know.

Because to me, it's just the fact that those books were printed a million years ago with our money before we were you know when you had a budget.

Yeah, yeah.

We don't want it to go back to Draper.

Should go to go back to them.

It should.

Okay, as long as we say that, that's she's with me.

I agree.

I will help, however, but she's ultimately let me go with that.

Yeah, because I can't be sticking.

Um definitely so yeah, let me look into that.

And it may be uh, yes, you can do Venmo, but you need to kinda provide an accounting of everything you took in who you took it from that, you know, that kind of thing.

So I'll I'll let you know.

Okay.

So perfect.

So yeah, our tour will be starting unofficially at the Draper Fort, where Lynn will be talking about the fort and discussing um her books and the historical society.

Please give a plug to them and talk about the museum, send people up there.

Melissa will be helping her at the park and talking about the the old post office and the teeth messong.

My French is not great.

Have you gotten a hold of them yet?

No, I've stopped by multiple times.

You know what?

At this point, we're not going in it.

I've done my due diligence, they got a flyer, like good enough.

That's where I'm at.

And they're also a business, it's a little bit different than a residents.

They can't get too mad about you standing across the park and mentioning their building.

Yeah, they're building a lot of things.

I mean if they're open.

Exactly.

Yeah, but she won't call me back.

But we put a flyer on her door.

She's a little bit more.

We do community yoga over there.

Like in in the past.

Really?

And it's always like, oh, sorry, they're not in today.

I'm like, okay, here's another message.

Here's another message.

Here's another.

Whatever.

I've done the part.

That's why I'm not.

I like that job.

Literally.

Alright.

So then our next stop will be the Sorenson house, which will be open.

Um people shouldn't wear it.

Nope.

I will call the I've talked to both Leslie and recently.

Yeah, well, I thought that'll be it's open tonight.

I know.

I'm gonna walk over the colour.

Yeah, go over there and talk to somebody.

Okay, yeah, I have talked to them about it.

Okay, good.

Perfect.

And they were pretty good about that when we did it.

What was that, two years ago?

Yeah.

Um, and then so Crystal will be stationed there and she'll talk about that.

And then the Walter J.

Green home, which is kind of located slightly kiddie corner from it across the street.

And um those owners we gave a flyer to as well.

Um, but hadn't heard anything.

Nobody called me, so is she gonna mention the read back home just right straight up?

Yeah, yeah, and she's gonna kind of hit that whole little yeah area.

All right, and then we'll move over to Shanda, who will be at the Draper Cemetery.

Which will be a very exciting one.

Did you get them all the did you get her the number?

The rest of the family.

Of the no, I gave her the number of the fishers.

Sorry.

Yeah, that live in that house.

Okay, sorry.

Yeah, that and they did do like cemetery tours.

So they have a lot of information about it.

Oh, great.

Speaking of QR codes, and this is probably like a long shop, but it'd be really cool at some point if you could get the families to agree and draper would sponsor you the QR code on this historical graves so people could go at any time and pull up like a link to the city page.

That would be freaking phenomenal.

Yeah, but that's a really good go anytime and do their own walking.

I think so.

You're not just celebrating these people once a year.

Like people could do it at any time.

Good idea.

Yeah.

I'll look into that.

That's really cool.

I think that'd be really awesome.

I wish that we could do something like that with a link to like ancestry or something.

I know she's as we walk through, she was looking that yeah, I think just on there.

It would be a good thing.

Um Philadelphia that way.

They I mean it's run by a different organization than government, but they walk you through, tell the family history about Van Franklin or whoever it is that you're looking at, tell you about the parts of the cemetery that they don't know a lot of information about and why.

It's a good compelling story, but it really is if if we could do that because that is a draper historic place.

I I agree.

Like everyone that I've been to out outside of the New Orleans, New Orleans.

Yeah, for sure.

But it would be awesome because it would drive a lot of traffic to your site and really you know what I mean, educate the citizens like you were talking about who don't know.

That would be really really cool.

That would be super cool.

Yeah, and I don't know how much those little things would cost that you put them in.

And also put the hook on there.

Yeah, that would be awesome.

Oh, I'm talking about like QRQ.

Oh, that'll take you to the walk in drawer video so you can see inside.

Yeah, you're staying right back to the side.

Yeah, you can get um like little laminated cards and put it in those little spring, like that holds cards and you can stake them down.

You know what I'm talking about?

They're cheap, they're a couple bucks each for the the metal stakes and think about like memorial link when people are already there, yeah.

When people are already there.

Yeah, totally.

People would be super interested in it.

I was honestly super excited when I got sent to the case.

Every time we're in Europe or anywhere, like, well, there's another time.

Anyway.

Yeah, I like that idea.

Let's just let's expand on.

Do I have only five minutes?

I mean, you can hold people's attention as long as you want if they want to sit there and chat with you.

Yeah, I have people kind of coming and going.

Yeah, you know, I think so.

Yeah.

Um, and then the next stop will be the park school, which I'll be talking about.

And we do have permission from the owners for them to be able to go inside.

Oh, cool.

Yes, we do.

But when I was talking to him, not at butt, but he is wanting inside when you go in that first quest store.

Well, you can go in west and then out to the north.

Um he wants to there's display cases and he wants photos, more photos to put in on these two would be excellent photos to put in those display cases.

Um, do you know where he could get those or at the the historical society?

Um yeah, either the historical society or uh Linda with our communications.

She may be able to look up where we help you know get these two.

Yeah.

Do they have that part of the historical society?

Yeah, these ones are from there.

So maybe I'll just send I mean I did tell them to go see you, and so maybe I'll just reconfirm that it's best to go there to get some photos of it, so we could put it in the display case before people start walking through.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

That would be really good.

Do you want them this big though?

No, the display case is not that big.

Oh, they just have like eight by tens in there.

Yeah, okay.

Oh, I just know of these two photos.

Yeah, there's lots in here.

They have lots.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah, that would be great.

Um, and then our last stop on the tour is the Draper Theater, which Nancy will be doing.

And again, we have permission from the Draper Theater to go inside.

They will have a board member that will be on site to talk about the interior and kind of give a little bit of tour of the interior.

Um, there is a practice that night for one of the shows.

Sophie said they may have to kind of work around that, but they are very excited to be involved, which I thought might be a good opening for the historic register.

Just throwing that out there.

Um, he's great.

I talked to their board chair for a while, so um might try for like two years.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, it seems like it's a new chairman that got in more recently.

Yeah, you can run a lot.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

So they might be open to that now, but they it will be open.

So I think we've got a pretty good list of places for people to stop by, you know, a couple to go into um Draper Cemetery.

It might be worth there's like uh an online map as well.

And it might be worth having the QR code to the city website where people can scan and look people up.

Um it's really easy to follow.

Um, so maybe getting one of those that shouldn't be too hard to get a paper with the QR code printed.

The city is okay with that.

Um so you'll pick up signs.

Yeah.

Okay, let me know.

Um, if you need help putting them out, just shoot me a text.

Um do the rest of us just like wait at the area for the people to come.

We don't want to like start at the way at your area.

We should probably plan on meeting a few minutes early to kind of group together and then go to our spot.

Yeah, I was gonna say you meet like a half hour early.

Yeah, in the park.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So let's meet that night at 5 30 at the historic park.

And we'll convene and break up from there.

Yeah.

Lynn, do you have a table you can bring to put the books on, or do you want me to bring the table?

You know what?

I I probably have one at home.

Okay.

Yeah.

I'll be good.

Right?

Yeah.

You've got like a folding chair and everything to go with the table.

I can cover it.

Okay.

Shade.

There's no.

You could wear a bonnet.

Are you gonna dress up or do what you please?

That's fine.

Well, well, like I said, that picture we had before, you guys were these nicely cute dressed up people that were pioneers, and I was dressed up and I looked like one of the old pioneers.

That was good.

That was the best one of all.

I thought, okay, I'm not interested in the that was good.

Are you guys dressing in?

Yeah, yeah, I am.

Are you well?

Whoever was the one who sent me the long sleeve dress, I said I don't think so.

I got a short sleeve dress.

Okay, but yes, you are a white sheet.

I can wear white sheet.

White sheet would be better, right?

Make it easy.

Just put a couple holes in there.

Well I'm jealous.

I'll send you all a picture of the historic hotel I'm staying in.

It sounds like a lot of fun I'm jealous.

That was out last year too.

Anything else we need is there anything else?

I think we got it.

Yeah.

Okay.

Moving on.

We don't make our flax ceremony.

Okay.

You're up.

Alright so we got the news.

Can't do it.

Draper days.

I think we had a golden window of opportunity to have it at the end of the month in a passed.

It's fine.

I mean we we just do our best and if if if things happen they happen.

If not you know I think we move on but what I like from everybody is kind of a gut check on this.

We're saying August but August I'm telling you that is the least desirable time of the year to have anything.

Yeah it's just too exposed way too exposed.

And any shelter we bring up is gonna be you know just pop up 10 shelter and those are intermittent right you know the sun's you're in the shade five minutes ten minutes later you're in the sun.

It's still hot too hot yeah so realistically if we wanted to do anything honestly probably end of September early October is is weather wise what is realistic.

So the gut check part of it is we've got it in do we really do we do are we still in it to win it on the ceremony idea.

I've got some other ideas on things that we could do to promote it.

Hey you put a lot of work and effort into this and I feel like it's worth trying to bring the community together to celebrate it and also celebrate the history that was on that mountain be aware to be aware too and so I'm still all for it.

Yeah everybody else is so is that up there now I these are from the week it got put up so do you have access to my Google sheet uh not on the Google sheet has more pictures of the site um and none of those are coming to our so um who's who's been up there just Melissa and I have been up there who and Jen who else has been up there to I don't know if they haven't been up there yet okay so I guess I don't know if this is something we need to to vote on Jen I think you were asking for us to do something.

Well I my my concern was if we were gonna try to do it in August I'd it'd be before our next meeting so I wanted to at least have a vote on the record of the commission approving doing a cemetery alright.

In August I'm pretty sure there are dead bugs I think there may have been there have been very gliders and the widow maker they're happy yeah so I I wanted something on the record if we were going to do it before our next meeting.

Okay but if we're thinking August is too hot so we don't want to do it in August and we're gonna look at September we can have it on the agenda in August to discuss more.

Okay.

Um now one thing I will say um I was talking to Kelly about the potential of having draper days she did point out if we do it out for July David Wilkes would be available to help us out oh that would be um and we'd be able to actually use supplies that the city has like tents that they have things like that.

Okay.

Or like in July they're all used up you know well that's that's easy I mean so let me let me throw out this as an idea what if we bracket up a week or possibly two weeks at the end of September.

Call it whatever we say we we think is the best day.

Saturday's very likely going to be the best day to get the public out.

Yeah.

And then maybe just choose those last two Saturdays and say we are going to do it one of those two days.

And that'll give me an opportunity to put a stake in the ground on some days and that'll help with the community pulling you know the motorcycle community and some of the ideas that Melissa had to bring in maybe some outside businesses in the motorcycle industry to help out with it.

I think that would help facilitate a lot of stuff.

So if we're cool with that, can we just say one of either the well?

Let's see what that is.

Yeah, 19 and 26.

I yeah, I mean, let's and I don't think we'd need a motion for for that because we would have you know we'd have another meeting in our own.

Right, I think we'd still have to approve the plan, whatever we decide.

Yeah, but we can we can do that in August.

Yeah.

But that'll give us time for I I can make sure with the city that those dates work, you can make sure it works with the Campbells.

Yeah, yeah.

And if there's one weekend over another that's we're kind of working for everybody, then in August we can decide what that works.

I think that seems pretty reasonable.

My my other ask is for everybody to look at that Google Sheet.

Or if you don't know how to access or work with Google Sheets, let me know.

I can walk you through it.

And there are some good ideas that everybody's fed into for the event.

I think we probably could use a few more just in terms of ideas on who we want to speak.

I think is still an open open action.

Also, if there's something that you feel passionate about helping, put your name next to it.

And and uh take some ownership.

And I think um maybe in the beginning of August, don't do it now because it'll just stress Wilkes out.

But I think in August, send him a link to that as well.

Um and I'll I'll kind of give him a heads up and then and call you a heads up, and then that way um he can see the work we've already done, and he can kind of help us out from there.

He plans events for a living, so he's he's gonna know what we've missed and have suggestions and things like that.

That's kind of what I was hoping with the communications team too.

Like maybe we can rough out some ideas, but they're gonna have a better idea of what we need to send out to the news media as well as ideas for setting up the site for better photography, stuff like that.

Jen, one of the questions though was I flirt through a phone about the idea of asking businesses to sponsor the event or contribute to the event, maybe motorcycle related businesses.

Is that allowable?

Or what are the rules?

What are the rules that I'd have to participate?

I'd have to look into that, do some research on that and let us have to find out.

I I don't know the rules.

I know Brad it probably has encountered it a bunch because a lot of people want to donate money to parks and trails, but they have a lot of strings attached when they want to put the money on it, like logos and brandings on jumps and stuff like that.

So I I know that I know that's there is something, but we don't know exactly what it is, and but yeah, so we'd like some clarification on what's allowable there so we can invite people, businesses to maybe help spread the word of that.

And then we might even be able to get them to fund it too, which I don't think we need a lot of money to do this and have it be cool.

It'd be nice to have some businesses made into it for drinks and things like that.

And I know like Draper Days, um the city has sponsors from businesses.

Um I think they get booths so the businesses can have boosts there, um, or their name on the you know, forward on I don't I don't know all those all the things they get, but um, so I know I I know there's most I just don't know what the standards are.

So let us know.

Is there anything else on that buttons that we had that we were asking?

Let me see if I could pull up the sheet real quick.

Uh Google Sheets are great because they're so easy to share, but at the same time they're um there was some questions on the event layout, but maybe um David guy might be a good resource to kind of infern what we talked about is a good option.

Um I don't know if there's anything else that needed to be uh oh I think there are some questions that are I think they might be counting Jen.

Okay.

I don't know if there's anything else that needed to be a oh I think there are some questions that are I think they might be counting gem in terms of so there are uh three short wing launch pads next to the bathrooms can we block those for a morning because I think I think where we want to set up shade uh would probably interfere with those launch pads.

They would I don't know how many people use them when I've been up there, people launch just straight off the ground, they aren't anchoring.

Um I don't know, they may have some rules about that.

Okay.

I'll I'll get them.

I'll go on CC Jason.

I think I think another thing would be does the county have certain people that they would like to speak at the event.

That's a good idea.

And for us, I mean for the city we're gonna invite the mayor and all council.

Um do we want the mayor to speak or not?

Um gotta make sure we give them at least 20 minutes to talk about the points.

He's gonna be scared right at it.

Yeah, yeah.

But you know, so or is the county expecting to have somebody on their end?

Sure.

So that's that's not the point.

Well, when the race um originally happened though, who was like was a county part of it, was a city.

No, it was just all private, just Draper.

All that land was owned by a sheep rancher.

Oh, at that time at the time.

So but all the access and rights of way to get to the property were Draper City.

Oh, okay.

I think that was it.

Um is someone gonna share the history of how it all started?

The race, Jason Well?

So that would be really that would be a very interesting thing for Mel Senior to talk about because Mel Sr.

raised the widowmaker when it was on the other side of Steep Mountain.

Um it was on the other side from 1958 to 1964.

64 they moved over to the east end where you see that big white cut, the most prominent cut that you can see from the highway.

That was 1964.

So Mel's been involved through all of that.

Is he gonna talk?

I sure as heck hope so.

Yeah, to tell the history of the case.

He's been a little under the weather, but yeah, I need to.

Or someone from his family.

Yes, yeah.

Mel I Mel Jr.

could, Kenny could, their whole family.

Yeah, that would be great.

To have them tell the history of it all.

Also you should.

Yeah.

Yeah, if if not, I I guess I'm a backup.

Okay, yeah.

You spent a lot of time with it.

So I have a question.

Sure.

Okay, you're talking about the one at the point, the big white one.

What about the smaller one to the east?

When did that one?

So the east one, the the one that's behind the neighborhoods now.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Um, that started in 1964.

Went from 1964 to 1968.

It was too short, too many people were going over it, so they moved west.

64.

And then they they there, I think you can see I think three or four different cuts on the very far west end of Steep Mountain.

Okay.

The one that's the most prominent that the sign is aimed at.

Uh in the Google sheet, I actually have some um some uh map renderings of that area too.

You can kind of see where they are.

But that one was probably the most used of all the of all the years that they raised there.

So about I've seen people walking up.

Yeah, there's a liner.

There's a fixed line.

When we were up there, there was a guy coming down and there's like a rope.

Yeah, but there's a fixture over there that's the like move on to.

Yeah, that's why.

Yeah.

And open stream maps, uh, all the open source GIS or map overlay stuff says Widowmaker for the track.

So even if you open up the Draper Trails app, if you don't have that, get it, it's pretty cool.

Um there's a with there's a trail marker for the widowmaker, and that's that's that's what that sign is aimed at.

Okay, yeah.

Okay.

Cool.

So I guess plan we want to have a plan to vote in by August.

That's the the options.

Yeah, if we can pin down like the at least the date and then um some of the final or you know, some some ideas.

Okay.

Um we can but I I think if we can at least vote on the date and maybe kind of a budget mount or something like that as we're for long, meaning, hopefully by then we might have a better idea of what we can actually use from the city.

Okay.

So then that won't cost us anything.

Yeah, I was thinking about it after you said Draper Days, no way that if we wanted to borrow uh shades from chairs and not yeah, yeah.

So all right.

Thanks for all of your work on that, Jason.

Then everybody's too thank you.

That's welcome.

All right, moving on.

Drape Draper Bank sign discussion.

Okay.

This is okay.

So the last meeting I went to at the Historical Society, they talked about this sign that the president was going to throw in the trash because it had nothing to do with Draper.

They said it had nothing to do with Draper history.

So I went over and rescued it from the trash.

And then I put it up on Draper D remember on Facebook and had people offering me money already for it.

And so I just asked them, where do you think this sign should go?

And I had a bunch of people tell me ideas.

Some people said see if Dra um Zion's Bank will put it up in there because that's where it was.

I thought maybe we could have a display of it with something saying this is the sign from the bank that sat right here.

Yeah.

So that was my one.

I'm coming to you with that.

But what do you think we ought to do with it?

How big is it?

It's not huge.

Yeah.

I mean it's in my garage.

I can carry it.

What what year was straper bank here?

Oh I want to say maybe 50s, 50s.

And it's not part of Draper history.

It it very much is.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm not saying it's not part of Draper history.

I'm saying that's what the president said they wanted to throw it in the Draper Bank Draper.

Draper residents.

Yeah.

And it was still there in the 90s.

I remember it.

Yeah.

Oh, although it's not like it's been at all.

And I even had the person that commented that said we are the ones that donated this to the historic society.

I got a lot of Haber they were going to throw it in the show.

So Zion's bank on 123rd and 9th.

That used to be Draper Bank.

And this is this area of its the historic bank.

And then they added Zion's Bank added this on later.

Yeah, that right on the corner was the original.

Yeah, I went there.

So I don't know if I says, but like I grew up in Sandy, a couple blocks from the border.

Like when I was draper.

When I was 10, 8, you know, whatever.

This was a grocery store, Frank.

We'd walk down, we'd buy our candy, we cross the street, we'd sit on the uh wall of Draper Bank, and we sit in the arcade.

You know?

So that's not part of Draper History.

I wish you guys could come and talk to my I know.

What?

Can I come and talk to him?

Yeah, he says about the middlemanker stuff too.

So he has a different opinion about what draper history is.

Yeah, maybe it's important generations here.

Yeah, yeah.

And he's lost in somewhere.

In my opinion, it needs to be at the museum.

It seems like it's if there's donation paperwork.

Uh that I mean that could get you into some legal issues if it goes somewhere else right now.

I think we did not actually log it because we voted on it before we actually did the paper.

That's good.

Great.

That's what I went to do.

Okay.

Would this be an opportunity to establish a relationship with with Sci Zion's bank?

I know somebody who's an executive there.

I don't know if it would be worth it, but I mean that is 50s that's historic still benefits for a register.

You know, with me or something like that.

But maybe they had information on the history of own here in Draper.

She's got a 64.

Yeah, you know, they may not care.

I think it's worth talking to them.

I mean, at least Zion's like a local Utah.

It's not like a small embargo because that would be a lot harder.

Yeah, Zion's is also uh a very community-minded family or probably be open to it.

I mean, I think it's worth talking to them.

Um I think it's something that the historical shit society should take on, though.

I just because it's an object that's from them thrown away from their collection.

So we're making you take it back and do this.

1964.

Yeah, July 7th of 64 and merged to buy and Zion's January 26th.

Well, if I do skip could there ought to be a thing that you're not gonna throw it away if you aren't gonna be doing that more than 30 minutes.

If it went up, yeah.

If it went to Zion's, you would have to do like loan paperwork with them.

So if they wanted to ever get rid of it, it would go straight back to the museum, and I can help you write the legalities up of that.

Um I'd be happy to go with you and talk to them.

Um but I think that the historical society should kind of spearhead the since it's your artifact.

But yeah, but also at the same time it's a building.

Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say, but with us, backing it, but I don't want to I don't know, get it.

In the meantime, it is in my garage lady.

Right.

Yeah.

I will say they completely changed the facade of the building.

Yeah, you know.

So um that is the building though, right?

Yeah, that is the building, but from like uh historical standpoint.

That was the front door right there.

Oh, okay.

I think that's as old as well.

And wasn't the doorbell window on the east side there?

Yeah, that's the oldest.

Yeah, that there's table street view goes.

But uh the architecture is uninspiring, but it's yeah, it's a it's part of they yeah, they did that after they bought it.

They redid the whole thing.

So text me Lynn and let's find a date and go down there and get this sign.

I mean, Nancy, you can come bring the sign and let's go talk to the branch manager.

Yeah, yeah.

And we could do it on a loan basis from the historical society and get you some loan paperwork and we can.

I just wish I was president again.

Yeah.

I'm sorry.

I might have some nice words for him.

Oh, but yeah, shoot me a text.

Let's figure it out.

Okay.

Okay, American 250.

Um Christa sent an email because she's not here.

Um just said that um they met on June 3rd.

They want to help spread in the ward to visit the Draper website and sign up for the 250 challenge.

Um if you do the 50 challenge, go get a bracelet and a pen.

Um there was no update yet on attendance number for the 250 mobile museum.

Um it was pretty great.

Yeah, it was from it's like um so America's potluck will take place on July 5th from 5 to 7 p.m.

Um everybody who goes should bring a picnic dinner for your family, and you're gonna share it with neighbors.

Swire Coca-Cola will be donated beverages, and the city will be doing a rocket pot.

So it's not really a potluck.

It's not people aren't bringing food to share though, they're they'll just bring their own.

Yeah, it's a picnic, yeah.

It's a picnic.

Yeah, help department.

Yeah, it's a picnic.

So between now and Draper Days, please be sure to sign the America's birthday cards.

That'll be featured at different city events, and you'll get a pen for signing.

She said there are so many pens.

Um you can get one for almost anything.

Great.

So get a pen.

Okay.

Um that'll be at the concert in the park right now to be fine.

Oh, it really?

Oh, I saw that.

Uh huh.

I didn't realize that's what it was.

Yeah.

Fine.

Um, and then their next meeting is in July.

Okay.

Great.

Thanks, Chris.

I'm gonna go get my pen.

Um, I'm gonna do all the activities and get all the pens.

Okay, that's a good idea.

All right, 3H, the Shippo Conference.

I just thought since both of us were there last week, I might as well throw it on and you can tell them what you liked, and I can count on from there.

Okay.

Uh yeah, so Jen and I were both at the uh Utah State Historic Preservation Office Conference in Ogden on Friday the 12th.

Um it was really great.

It the keynote speaker was Lisa Eccles.

So it was really fun to hear a lot about how her family kind of set up their roots in Ogden and um grew and grew their businesses and where their family fortune has come from.

Um I learned a lot, even though I worked with the Eccles a lot.

I didn't know some of that, so it was really interesting.

Um and they had three different tracks that you could kind of follow for their uh speeches.

I went to one that was on historic districts, which was really interesting.

Um I was more just wanting to hear the um the uh national register information that went along with it, but um they talked a lot about the different questions that arise as you're putting people on the register and some of the different places that do have stricter stipulations.

Um I took a lot of notes, which I did not bring those with me, but this was a surprise item on the agenda.

I didn't know.

Um that was really it it was interesting to learn about the historic districts and it was making me think if maybe somewhere along Fort Street qualifies for a historic district, just based it has to be 80% historic, I think was the statistic.

I don't know.

Yeah, I it might be and I don't we're a little diluted.

The zoning code we're working on a holistic update of our zoning code with that we are looking at putting in a historic uh district zone, but I don't envision it being more like a uh standard historic district because we don't have you know full neighborhoods like a lot of places do.

So I think of it more as individual property owners can come in and apply for.

Oh, cool is what I'm thinking.

I like that.

Okay.

Yeah.

It's still very much draft.

Yeah, so yeah, okay.

Um I I'll just say about the conference.

I it was at uh Ogden High School and I had never been to that school.

That is so just amazing, and they had um a session that with the contractors that worked on the retrofit of the school with pictures, and they just talked about all the things they had to do and and just went through that process and I'm so sorry I didn't go to that.

It was really good.

Yeah, so it was really good, and they had like time lapse of them like rebuilding the uh roots.

Yeah, pictures of that just all the ornate uh you know work that's on moldings that are on the walls and the intricacies of of the the people that fixed the the artwork and yeah, so it was early interesting.

Maybe I did some good stuff.

I took a little time to just walk around school.

Oh yeah, right.

The movie three o'clock high was filmed before they did the renovation.

And my dad went to high school there too.

Oh it's what was filmed there.

Uh three o'clock high.

It's a movie from the late 80s, I think.

Yeah.

And they had a lot of shots within the the school too.

It's it's beautiful.

Yeah, that's a good one.

Good to know.

Speaking of, I'm gonna be talking about some of that from the theater when I from my tour.

Of movies that were played there.

Oh, I've been reading the history of schools.

When I was in high school, it was they weren't showing movies anymore.

It was place.

Oh, but I have a few friends that would would do plays there.

Okay.

Yeah.

Um, yeah, another one of the interesting things that they I session that I attended was on interpretive signage.

And I thought of you a lot in your whole Widowmaker thing, and they um really went through the way to create eye-catching signs.

And it was interesting.

It was a graduate student's capstone for his public history degree that he was kind of using this as his presentation.

So he took you through like his whole process on this was my first draft.

Um, you know, this is after we jazzed it up, and it it I took some really good notes on the process.

So if we're ever doing a big interpretive sign again, I got some good pointers.

That one that one was really interesting.

I'd be curious as to go through what look at the widowmaker, look at the Phoebe Brown one stuff that we've done recently and say how might we improve it.

So the next time we next time we do one, we we we have a progression.

Yeah, and it I think that would be interesting because I'd love to continue to do projects like your widowmaker.

I think that that's a really good trajectory and keep doing things like that.

So yeah, but good conference this one.

When we get the Draper Theater to do the register, we should do that.

Yeah, there we go.

Because they will yeah, and they will do it.

Yeah, yeah.

I know you can do it.

Okay, walk tour walk through video tour of historic homes.

Yeah, like we went we met with the fishers, and they're excited, but they want to take some time to fix up things before they're the videos visitable.

So are they related to the German immigrant family fishers that ran the brewery in in Salt Lake until 68?

That might be a good idea.

You want to go talk to him, you can't.

Oh, by the way, Craig wanted to know, he says, how long is the video?

And I said, probably about between three and five, and he goes, Well, can I have 30 minutes?

And I said, You can personally have 30 minutes if you would like to do your own video.

I know that we can take it, you know, to put it like on the website or whatever.

Yeah.

So I said, we're interested in what you have to say, but we can only do so much for ours.

Yeah, but he he's very into all of this.

Great.

I'm glad that he's so involved.

Get Jaina the information.

I did.

Okay, beautiful.

Yeah, she has it for the historic um National Historic Registry.

Great.

Give it to them.

And I went um to see if I could get one of the and I was thinking I should talk to Carolyn and maybe borrow her finder.

Yeah.

Copy it and give it back to her so we have it.

Yeah, that would be because I tried to go to the other house and their gate was closed, and so I couldn't even get in to go talk to them.

So I think I'll talk to Carolyn.

Perfect.

And yeah, she's already passed that point anyways.

Yeah, they're they're doing it.

Ball is rolling, so you can take it.

Okay.

Um, all right.

Draper ethnic and minority history research, David.

I'm just go working with the Ray Blaad.

Okay.

Coming up with a list because you live in that neighborhood where a lot of the ethnic groups that have uh, you know, about a hundred and thirty-fifth or nothing.

Perfect.

All right, great.

Okay, action items.

I'm gonna get the signs from Angie.

Okay.

That's one.

I know.

Jen.

Well, we have that one.

Okay.

Okay.

I've got uh Nancy's gonna attend the next historical society meeting.

I will be seeing if we have any easels from the Draper Days tour.

Um, I'll check about payments for the historical society books and then about a QR code for the cemetery.

Um I put Draper Days tour call for everybody.

Um Nancy's gonna get the signs from Andy.

Um I will get with the county on the widowmaker um just see if they have anybody who wants to speak and get and you're concerned about uh blocking that space as well as um you slip in something there about the bathrooms like you know, can you just like send somebody who really seriously cleans to just just one time once?

I watched Raver standards.

Yeah, clean it to draper standards for for the bathroom, and that's no joke.

Um Alyssa and I were there and we watched what that guy did to clean, and I walked in there and it's gnarly.

It's it's a it's a known problem.

Yeah, okay.

So if they're willing, if I mean if not, I mean I'd almost be tempted to put on some biohazard stuff and go in there and do a little cleaning myself.

Which I don't want to do that, but yeah, well cheery on it's it's a that level of stink.

Okay, okay.

Um I'll mention that because I don't need to go on about there.

And I'll find out about uh business sponsorship.

Okay, and then I have the Annie Lynn and Nancy and go to science thing and talk to them about that uh sign.

Okay, that's all I can talk about the brochures and I can also talk about ethnic and share with some material in found about the black cemetery.

So cemetery calls it is it ever gives you union.

Union cemetery work.

Yeah, a lot of the early blacks were there.

they can talk to them about that uh sign okay and that's all I can bring I can talk about the brochures and I can also talk about ethnic and share what some material in found about the black cemetery so cemetery called it is it ever given union union cemetery work yeah a lot of the early blacks were there George and his wife were there yeah no kidding where is it that's good that we know that thirteenth east ninth east I know how to get there it's in it's in well it's in union so kind of east of Midbellish up into Union yeah third set yeah yeah somewhere over there yeah yeah I know what you're talking about the address it'll help you yeah Google Maps um all right I think that that's it then can I get a motion to adjourn this meeting okay and a second I'll second it and everyone is in favor yes I want to leave I don't get to see you all enough I know it's the worst