Now it could have been that night of champions too.

You had that night of champions.

That was a big night.

That's huge.

That was huge.

Now this will be a what, a four camera shoe.

Three.

I'm only kidding.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It will be put on YouTube so you can share it out.

And that's where I saw the uh the uh that was a big Hall of Fame thing.

I I just punched it in as a big YouTube.

I might have you to move over just a little bit that way.

Yeah, yeah.

Uh it will be put on YouTube.

So you can see Ron Bevers is the one that got me.

Well that's what you that's a link and then you can hear one.

He goes, you know, this is what we're wanting to do.

Do you think you can do like a little bit of highlights or something?

Just a little bit that way.

And I said, Well, yeah, sure, we'll have it let our students work on it.

Problem is students don't take the care.

See, Ron Bevers is the one that got me students.

It's hard to like.

I have students that'll come to a soccer game and they've never seen a soccer game.

Do you like little teachers or high school?

So they don't know the game.

Yeah.

And so working the camera, they don't know anything.

I would not work.

Yeah, I don't know the soccer game either.

Jeremy's had to learn sports for the city.

I knew quite a few of them.

I love all of them.

I've never played golf and I'll love covering.

Now do you do a lot of interviews on High Lie?

So I don't know the game.

I mean, I do a lot of things.

I will uh highlight.

I gotta quit that.

Well like I think he's had a lot of people.

A lot of people don't know what highlight is, so uh Bo Davenport called it Jolly High.

Jolly.

This is the I've been telling you I do a lot of it as my 40th video.

Uh I got a good one.

Start at 85.

I was like, a lot of people don't know what highlight is, so Court Knox.

This is and then they brought in one, but it's my 40th year.

Sloan.

I got you've gone through the history of Crainers.

Yeah.

Craner.

You know where Craner Sloan's from?

Isn't it like Trig County or I thought Craner Sloan?

It's a smaller one.

He won the state tournament in Kentucky.

He could be I just know he won he won the state tournament with a really small school.

Now that was Bo Davenport.

From Edmondson County in Right.

Yeah, that's Edmunds, but when they won, you know, but Craner like Trigly or I thought Craner Sloan.

You must have a small school.

I thought Craner Sloan, I know that name.

He was won the state.

I want to say I'm not sure where he went to the street.

He came in.

Yeah, that's what we went.

Lee Bishop was his assistant.

That year was the last year that Fort Knox ever went to district.

Crane or Sloan was a good thing.

Oh, I'm from Rhiney though.

He came in.

So we had uh like I said, that was Ron's year.

Well, of course he started in 75 years, I think as the necessary.

He started around 72 and then became the head coach in 74, 75.

Yeah.

No, wait a minute.

Martha.

No, but North Harden.

She has a Western collection.

Yeah, Western.

Martha was uh I'm on the North Harden.

Martha Lloyd was a super fan, wasn't she?

Oh gosh, yes.

She's a super western round.

Judy Bishop and was it.

Yeah.

And then you have Barbara Prophet.

And Barbara still does stuff.

She has a Western.

She still makes a wallet.

Martha was a I'm on the birthday here in the last month.

Wow, so eighty seven or eight.

Well she comes to come to Western Pember game.

During the week or she graduated from Limbag.

High school.

I didn't know where she went.

Yeah.

She survived Shelly.

And I think her last name was.

Wow.

I can't remember her million name range.

But Ronnie, her husband died about during the week.

Yeah, she and she graduated from Limbury.

Anyway with Martha.

I didn't know where she was.

Yeah, she's a huge.

I'm on the western.

She's from Western.

Yeah, she's uh on the room.

I mean, it's uh everything in there.

North uh fame was like called on there.

She's retired and so has Judy Bishop.

Judy Bishop is the other person with nuts about, but she's nuts about UK.

Yeah, she's okay.

She's crazy about Western.

She was a bit western.

Yeah, she's uh on the room.

I mean, it's everyone at the same time.

Of course, Martha's always elementary teacher.

I thought she talked about it.

She has her help.

She's had some nuts and help.

She's nuts about UK.

Who hasn't?

She's crazy about it.

Ready in there?

I'm going to treat this as a special issues and insights.

Okay.

Did we look at you?

Yes.

Okay.

I think she had some help.

She's had some recent health comments.

I'll get this camera for my cue.

That is true.

Yeah.

Are we ready?

Ready in there?

I'm going to treat this as a special.

Okay.

Okay.

Yeah.

So the first year.

They went to state in 81.

And that team had James Jetter in addition to Robbie Valentine and uh Rhettburrow.

And then James graduated.

He went to UVL.

Yeah.

He still has the record for the mile.

Oh, I know.

He's amazing.

Yeah.

Well, Robbie.

And Daryl Griffin, I think, are going to be there.

That team.

Josh Hawkins is I talked to Josh and he said he'd bring they do a lot of stuff together and they're all working on the club.

I'm hoping Robbie goes in.

You know, we need to do that.

His high school record would certainly got any.

But he never did recover from the surgery.

Josh Green's.

But Ron always said Judah was the best player.

They do a lot of studies.

He's the best athlete.

Best at you.

Okay, we good?

Oh, well.

His high school record would be.

Hello, and welcome to the special edition of Issues and Insights.

Today I am joined by basketball aficionados of the state of Kentucky.

And also the area.

Okay.

Well, I have.

I've been a fan from the time I was a little boy and would read Sports Magazine.

That was before Sports Illustrator.

And I collected the baseball cards and anything I collect related to sports.

And also the Area.

And then Charlie Thurman and Charlie, you were you've done a lot of legends interviews and things.

So how many of you started with all that?

Well read sports.

I read Gary's book on Kelly Coleman and I picked it up one day at uh Barnes and Noble.

Came home and read it in 2007.

And then I immediately put it down after I read it and call him because I wanted to meet him and tell him how much I loved the book.

And it took me forever to get him, but I finally did.

And when he came to my house, we just immediately hit it off.

And I just told him, I said, I want to meet Kelly Coleman.

He said, Well, that's not easy.

And I we were I said, Well, what I said.

I want to meet him.

He I'm kind of a bulldog about that.

When I want something, I'll I won't give me a good reason I can't.

He said, Well, they're buying their school and they're gonna turn it into uh just a museum.

He said uh Kelly Coleman.

Would you do a fundraiser?

I said be happy to.

So we had the first fundraiser for Mountain Sports Hall of Fame in 2000.

18 years old.

But he's gonna the fault that I mean all the legend stuff.

We've we've done a bunch, and we've loved every one of them.

We brought a lot of pleasure to the older guys.

And recognition back.

They have they love coming to the meets because it's just fun.

Uh they get to talk.

Uh we serve a Cajun the football, which is great.

And we've done a bunch.

I don't know who gets the most fun, the legends or me and Gary for being able to put it together.

It's just uh it's it's been a great run for us.

We've had fun.

And it's been a while since we've done one and so fun.

Gary has updated his book, and this was a great reason to get together and bring some legends in and have a fun event.

I don't know.

Gary, you're from Elizabeth Town.

You graduated from Elizabeth Town High School.

1961.

1961, yes.

Um at an early age.

Um did you start one and thinking about writing his updates?

Well, I was uh uh journalism majority.

And uh I started out my education at Western and transferred to University of Kentucky.

Yes.

Um, in the early 60s, they did not Western's got a top flight journalism school.

Exactly.

Well I was but uh anyway, and that uh at UK I got to know uh the Rupfronts.

A couple of them were my paternity brothers in in college and to get my journalism one thing led to another, and then I moved to Bowling Green, and I'm in bowling green six.

This guy Kelly Coleman.

I didn't know if he was alive or not.

Uh anyway.

So one day I was on my way to Prestonsburg and passed by the road sign there that said Waylon with an arrow pointing to it and took that error.

One thing.

Right down there and I walked in, I said, Is Kelly Coleman and I'm still alive?

That was a film station.

This guy came out.

And they said, Well, yes, if you'll wait around, he'll be here in about ten minutes.

I thought you may have got to be kidding pressing first.

Kelly Coleman.

Kelly Coleman.

He said he stops in here, he stops in here every morning for coffee after he goes to the post office.

By the way, there's some pictures by the coffee machine of Kelly, and just make yourself at home until he gets well he never showed.

Never came by, so I had another meeting that day in Somerset heading from Preston's I left my car thinking that was the end of the day.

Or somebody he didn't know from a can of corn.

So I left my card, and about two weeks later I get an email and says, Gary, I understand you're trying to reach me.

Here's my phone number.

I had another meeting.

Signed Kelly.

He didn't even have to put his last name.

Exactly.

I knew who it was.

So we hooked up.

And I drove down to Cookville, Tennessee, where he was living at the time.

And met with him thinking I'd have a nice magazine story.

And I rode back and understand you're trying to get away.

Gina, I don't even remember the ride back and thinking, oh my gosh, because we met Kelly.

Thinking it was going to be about an hour.

We met for three and a half hours.

Yeah, and it just one thing I drove.

I said I've got a book here.

So I came back and I started the process.

Kelly Coleman, King Kelly Coleman is probably Magic Johnson.

Well, to the MBA.

He is to high school basketball, there's no question.

There's nobody that comes close to King Kelly Coleman as a legend.

Why is that?

Well, his record for one thing, he averaged close to 50 points in a game.

Magic Johnson.

He had uh 68 points in the state tournament, the consolation game against Bell County.

He had 75 points and 41 rebounds in one game against Maytown.

And all of a sudden the entire state of Kentucky starting to read about him for one thing from the likes of Earl Ruby and Bob White and Earl Cox and some of them.

And he became some people didn't even think he was real.

I mean he just alleged.

He had seventy-five points and forty.

They didn't have a lot of people in one game against singles or double.

He just knew where the ball was going.

And uh he was out there and everybody had heard about it.

But they didn't know what happened to the wheel.

Like I said, I didn't even know if he was still alive.

And found out he was very much alive.

You know, I wrote the first book, and that's how Charlie and I became friends.

Uh over the first book, and then I wrote the second one.

He was said, well, you've already written one, and I said, two books.

I said, well, let me ask you this.

How many books is Abraham Lincoln had written about him?

And maybe a thousand.

At least Kelly's got two.

I remember there's footage of him, and they're carrying him off the course or on the course with the crown.

Two books.

On his head.

So the idea of having that royalty attached to him.

He wore it.

And I think that probably that crown was made in the Photoshop.

Oh, gotcha.

The crown was probably.

It wouldn't have been like Kelly when Charlie doesn't.

He had to let him put a crown on his character.

No, he he wasn't.

Now he was proud of his record and proud of his shot and what he accomplished.

That royalty attachment.

And by the way, Kelly turned out to be a very good idea.

And I think that probably that crown was maybe photo.

And a lot of people said, well, make a living.

It wouldn't have been lived in Michigan.

Lived in Ohio Carrier.

Came back to Whalen.

He always crowded what he accomplished.

It says a small local time.

And he just came back in the Charles.

He knew where he was from.

He always paid homage to the case.

Yes, he did.

Now, in terms of his college ball, he was recruited.

Gina, he was reproduted recruited by everybody in the in the country.

Right.

He was a first team high school all-American.

It was Kelly and Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, Corky Withrow and Jackie Morgan.

Were the top five players back in the day.

And uh he could have gone anywhere.

He got upset with the way uh UK recruited him.

West Virginia tried to hide him out in a military school for a while, and he didn't like the life of being a cadet anymore.

Pretty quickly came back to Wayland.

But he went to Kentucky Westland and his records are still there at Kentucky Westland.

He was incredible.

Had he thought about going to the NBA?

West Virginia.

Oh, yes, and he did go to the NBA.

He did play for the New York Knicks and stuff.

And then he played on a maybe it was the Washington Generals that used to play against the Globetrotters a little bit.

But he was in and he was in another ABL, American Basketball League.

So he was in several things.

It was one of these guys that Kelly told me when I was in New York.

I made some terrible decisions in my life.

He said when I would come to the fork in the road, but he was a good one.

And I should have gone left, AB.

I went right.

And he said one of the things that stayed with me.

He said I did a terrible job growing up, but I've done a good job of growing up.

I made some terrible decisions.

I thought that's pretty prophetic.

Yes, it is.

What was it like in the road?

Well, you didn't even get to see him play.

I mean, I've only seen him on footage.

I heard him on radio.

I listened to games when I was a kid of Kelly Coleman.

So the mountain sports radio show was broadcasting the games at that time.

No, there was every back in the day in the state tournament, every town had somebody there in the Memorial Coliseum or wherever it was, didn't they?

Charlie Station didn't have the rights to wide open.

At Memorial, which had to be awesome because it's such a great gym to watch basketball in.

Back in the day in the state, now as a teenager, did either of you ever go to the state tournament in Kentucky?

Oh, yeah.

Okay, went in the back.

That was a that was a big deal.

I know I remember I'm sort of thinking school would be cool.

But they didn't count you absent if you guys went for sure.

Exactly.

Cheerleaders and some of the things that we're doing.

When we were growing up in the 50s and 60s, the state tournament was a big deal.

That was a big deal.

You went.

I know.

Do you remember any of the games that you got to see?

Yeah, players besides.

And knew all the guys.

A couple of the players were my two best friends growing up, even though I went to E town.

They went to E Town Catholic and we just lived, you know, around the corner from each other.

We were close friends and followed them in the middle.

Yes.

And it just seemed like when you got to the state tournament, everybody against the Lord.

A couple of the players were rooted for the mountain schools big time, regardless of the people.

If it was Carr Creek, it's not matter who was it.

So the males and the manuals and the Fallards at that time didn't get as much cream as the mountains.

They didn't and then next they rooted uh kind of against the Lexington schools and the Bryan Stations and the Tate's Creeks and some of them.

But the mountain schools the way I remember Charlie were the ones that uh really pulled for.

No, Carr Creek's Mountains.

Carr Creek was only a few miles from Whalens.

Oh, that's right.

They played each other a couple times during the season.

Then they might play in the district tournament and the region tournament.

Oh, yeah.

And yeah, the mountains on the east and the car creek.

Uh Charlie, you've got an upcoming fundraiser and uh Gary books there and everything.

Um hopefully we'll be able to see you and everybody that coming in.

Tell me a little bit about the event, the fundraiser.

But it'll be at our event bar at Dermot Landing.

That's in Sonora.

In Sonora.

We uh fundraiser.

We're expecting about 150 people.

It's gonna be afternoon event.

It'll go from one to six.

And everyone's coming in.

We've invited about 25 legends.

But it'll be from the 50s up to the current ones.

Some of the younger, not not as old as the 50.

We're losing a lot of the 50 guys.

So we're gonna have Quarky Withrow will be there.

We've talked to Garrett Daryl Carrier.

Hoping he's gonna be able to get up for a while and hoping Clint Haskins comes in for a visit.

They can't stay long.

They can't stay all after the audience and just come in for a visual.

It'll be great.

It's a meeting.

Have some fun.

Mid afternoon, about three o'clock, we'll do a big shrimp bowl for everybody.

And the other most important thing is we're going to try to raise money.

We're raising money.

All the money goes to Coach Ron Bevers' Foundation.

And the Mountain Sports Hall of Fame.

Uh Susan Bevers will be there.

Jerry Fultz will be there from Wayland.

And he runs that, and two people who's Gary and I both know we're going to try these two guys much for history and people.

Is anybody in the country?

Two great foundations done a lot for everybody.

And so just being a part to help them.

Make some money for them is going to be fun for us.

Compiling all your knowledge with uh King Kelly and the other things that you've been involved with.

Why do you think basketball is so to the state?

One of the reasons I think high school basketball and college basketball too.

Because there's no professional team.

Compiling all your your knowledge with the case.

And you direct your attention to it.

And the only thing at one time I'm trying to think Charlie may know the answer how many high schools there were when Kelly was playing.

There might have been 350.

Now there might be high school basketball and maybe not that many.

A lot of consolidation.

Consolidation.

And the small towns.

And you know from where you grew up how important your school was.

I'm going to say Rineyville.

Had some good teams, by the way.

They did.

Went to the state tournament several times.

Now that was before me being a student there.

Yeah, but they had a history.

They did.

And they were and it's that same way around.

The small towns.

Yes.

Coach Perkins.

I'm going to say Blue Devils.

And the Ronnieville Red Devil Victoria.

Red Devils and Blue Grove.

Yeah, that was a good thing.

That was one fine coach.

I got to know him.

But in fact, it's kind of funny.

He lived in Bowlington and worked down there and worked for Western.

And he called me one day and said, Gary, you may not know me.

This is Chet Redman.

I said, Coach, I called him I said, I know you, but you were one fine coach.

He said, Well, I understand you wrote a book on King Kelly Coleman.

And I saw him play, and I would love to get that book.

I took it over to Coach Redmond's house.

Sit down at his kitchen table with us and he started telling me little stories and stuff.

And after here's the thing about you write a book about an individual especially someone as iconic as King Kelly Coleman.

People come up and say, Well, you should have put that in.

You should have done that.

I've got these pictures and everything.

And all of a sudden, I had another book with the stories and stuff.

Now you can't change history.

So you do repeat history and Kelly's record stuff.

But I've got a lot of things in the new book.

And I've had some people to kind of preview it for me.

They were friends, and they said, here this may be the best book he's done.

And if any of your viewers or listeners have never been to Charlie's place, Thurman's Landing in Sonoa.

It is a wonderful place for any kind of event.

There's space, there's parking and everything else.

But what kind of what Charlie's done is just absolutely phenomenal this place.

So you have a chance if you've never been there to come down.

For several reasons.

I was going to say I have been to a shrimp bowl, and it is amazing.

It is a wonderful stuff.

Your staff, they do a great job.

Your lovely wife before she left us.

But it's always a fun time.

But all of those individuals being there on that day.

It's going to be a little bit like everyone trying to get amazing.

Hear this story and hear that story.

You know, pick I'll send over at this group page of it and then move over to this group.

Just one after another.

I can't wait really.

But that's why we don't do it for an hour or so.

It's all afternoon.

And as the older group they want to get home before dark, so they can come and stay two or three hours.

Hear this story and hear that story.

It'll be a fun day.

It'll just be a great fun day.

Beautiful book here.

How long did it take you to add that?

Well, I I spent uh close to a year.

They want to get home before dark and had some really good.

It'll be a fun J.R.

Van Hoos is a great player.

Urban Urban State.

And I was honored to be a good idea.

How long did it take you to add that?

Part of the eulogy at Kelly School.

I spent uh that position people would come up and tell me stories, and then I was one of the pall bears there.

And I think Charlie was annoying Paul Bear of Kelly.

So we just got to be really close friends with the people in Whalen over the years from the first time.

So got some time invested in Kelly's.

Might add that uh local man.

Cheryl Williams.

Yes, Cheryl.

From North Harden.

That's his that's a painting of Kelly that Cheryl did, and that's what I'm gonna do.

That's the book covered that.

Yeah, there's a full page picture of Cheryl's uh inside inside pages uh inside here of Cheryl uh presenting it to Kelly.

Now Kelly passed away when did he so before COVID did and his own terms uh inside is uh well one of the things I was gonna add I was gonna say was Cheryl Williams is a great historian with the Hall of Fame Basketball Hall of Fame writing the biographies.

Um beautiful I don't know if they can zoom in.

I'm gonna hold this over there.

He did.

Um Cheryl, of course, was uh social studies teacher at North Hard High School.

Um we called him S.

Williams.

He helped initially with the club.

And of course was a good friend of Ron Bever's fame writing the biography.

It was a great time going up in that.

Great historian.

I've had some people that tell me when they found out I knew Cheryl, they said, Oh, he I was a student of his and he's one of the best teachers.

I mean the and he was so generous of his time with me initially working on the Hall of Fame.

Um he and Rick Hoover and uh because going into it, you know, I know I know a lot about basketball, but I I was I have learned a lot more since I've been to Baldur.

I've got a teacher.

Sheryl was all Cheryl's also a stand-up comic over at Joel Race Browse's and he plays it he plays in his band, he has a band.

He's multi-talented.

Sort of like Charlie here, multi-talent.

I was gonna say, I know I know a lot.

Can do a lot of things, master a lot of things too.

I admire anyone to get produced and publish a book, Carrie.

I mean it's a good thing.

I've been very fortunate.

This is my twenty-third.

Well like your children's.

Well, it is and I I had a book I did on the boys from Corbin, America's Greatest Little Sports Town.

Which I really enjoyed, the bird family and the cellar.

I admire anyone in Kevin.

Uh the one of the books that was the most trying for me.

It took me two and a half years.

Murder on Yonder's Creek Road.

Oh, that's a true story here of a murder that took place back in nineteen seventy-five.

I had a book.

That's over there near Pearl Hollow.

And it's the book is uh the book is still selling very well.

I mean, we know Central Kentucky has got a books that was the most big history when it comes to crime and uh does Bowling Green, right?

Yeah, that's true.

Bowling Green was the little thing.

Well they were kinda connected on that too, weren't we?

Well, and you also cookbooks, right?

Cookbooks, recipes, places to visit, places to shop.

I did a hundred and one Must Places to Shop.

I did 101 Must Places to Eat.

I've done three editions to that ones.

Hey, if you start a new one of that, can I be included?

I had on the cover of my last eating book.

We did it at Rick Hawkins's place.

Oh, uh the little Andy Griffin cooked.

Maybe thing he's recreated at his place.

We had him on the cover of it with 101 must play.

With uh one of his cars and stuff.

So I've done it.

I've been blessed on my own.

Hey, if you start a new one and that's the first time.

On the cover of my last eating book.

Yeah, it it is amazing that um times have changed.

So people don't read.

And that type of thing.

But I'm I'm old school.

I like to have it in my hands as I'm reading because I like going back and forth.

Especially when you have great pictures.

And um, I'm uh I'm uh definitely a book person when it comes to that.

And you teach Charlie.

So to invite everybody in again, let us know when it's gonna be held.

I'm I'm old school.

October twenty-eighth, which is a Tuesday.

Do they need to go on to the house?

Must have reservations it's thirty-five dollars to the public.

And that's all day all afternoon, and uh I have a ship shrimp ball to invite.

I just come and have fun all afternoon.

Meet and greet, take photographs there be uh the legends will be doing some interviews and stuff.

It's just gonna be a fun activation.

Just be a fun actor to the public.

And we got plenty of parking.

So uh all the time.

With with the people that's gonna be there, do you look forward to seeing somebody you haven't seen in a long time?

And just so many have passed.

That's true.

Most of these people you haven't seen in quite a while.

So it's some you don't see every day.

It's gonna be a fun afternoon.

And some you've only read about.

We got plenty of things.

That's true.

Yeah, so uh that's what's gonna be there.

We had a Gary was in Well, uh when Kelly had been sick, he came home.

And we had a big luncheon up there for him and how many people were up there for that luncheon that day.

Probably close to a hundred.

Hundred people now.

They were legends.

That museum is done right now.

People flew in, people flew in.

I mean, we were in vans, it was uh it was just unbelievable how many people came from out of town across the state of Kentucky.

We had a big I lived in Bowling Green at the time.

But just moved back here to E Town in the last year.

But in bowling, they were legends.

Well, you mentioned some names, Darrell Courier and uh Corky.

I'm just curious.

Out of time.

Because they both have tales that they're the best.

I live in Bowling.

As Kelly did too.

Yes.

They they were all proud of their shot.

Yes.

Yes.

I remember, well, and you you mentioned Clem Haskins being there.

Of course, Clem, you'll see him at your a lot of Taylor County fifth region games and and things, and so I try to catch up with him and his lovely wife.

Um just beautiful.

And again, they were all proud of the stuff.

I mean I remember well I mentioned the generation.

Legends never die.

I had a front row seat for 13 years.

I did the color on Western basketball games.

West did the play by play.

I did the color for 13 years.

So we traveled with the team and went through the coaches.

Went through Clem and Murray Arnold and of course.

John Owen and Jim Virtual.

I had a front row seat.

I'm hoping Jim Richards.

I did the color on what you're events.

Hope so too.

Been to quite a few of us.

I've heard of quite a few stories about how Coach Diddle was at uh team and when he's got coaches.

And how he'd recruit and and things such as that.

Clem's got a fun story about how they recruited him.

Oh, the yeah.

With um I'm hoping.

And I'm trying to think the player from Owensboro.

Uh hope so too.

Um, yeah.

They were best buddies.

That's Rick's dad, of course.

You know, they had some funny stories there too.

Uh yeah, Coach Diddle liked to recruit some of the players he had used pretty girls.

Yes.

Hard to believe.

Curly Selby had told me that that's how he was recruiting now.

Or the idea he'd bring the others in, you know, that those other players.

You know, I think back to the whole fabulous team he put together at Clemson.

Hard to believe.

I heard a lot of Wayne Chapman.

Yeah, and they were all kind of from Kentucky.

Or the idea of proximity.

And then everybody just traveled so well and the and think back to it was great.

It had to be a great time to live during that time too.

I want to thank you both for carrying the history on.

Educating me because in the many years I've been doing the high school basketball hall of fame.

I'll go to all kinds of references to get information.

And then everybody just I don't know those taut stories.

It was great.

Well it's kind of funny.

The older you get the taller they get.

Don't do that.

So I go in and be believed everything they say.

I've been doing the high school birth.

And um and and it's it's been uh it's been a wonderful ride.

So I thank you all for doing that.

Well, thank you.

Everybody, where can they get your books?

Well, they're gonna be able to get them down at uh the Thomas Landing at the event on the twenty-eighth.

Uh it's gonna be available at Mark Large Noble.

Uh some of them are gonna be available at the History Museum here.

And it's gonna be around and uh and I'll have them and a lot of people want them signed and stuff.

So I live here now, so I'm easy to get a hold of.

Right.

That is awesome.

Well it's gonna be a good one.

Uh this is a great opportunity to learn more about the state.

If you haven't heard of King Kelly Coleman, you definitely need to take a look at Kerry's building.

So just uh amazing.

And uh Charlie always does a great party.

A lot of people want them signed.

So you need to come to Samara.

I live here.

For those of you that don't know, you know, that's only about 13, 14 miles from Elizabeth Town.

I say that we're probably gonna be becoming bowling green north and Louisville Sacks of the what's going on in Glendale.

Uh Charlie and we gotta keep our identity go at the house andora.

Upton and Glendale, they all had great high school basketball at that time.

They certainly do.

So come on out and uh support a great cause and have some fun and delicious food when you're there.

What's going on in Glendale.

Thank you, Gene.

You gotta keep our identity.

Okay.

So I'm gonna head down that way that day.

I can't stay all day, but I'll come down anymore.

Well, and we'll visit some more about that to show you.

So come on out and uh support a great.

One of the things I was gonna say also in the I think what ten chapters about Gary.

I don't think you're uh yeah, I I can't.

A whole new set of pictures.

There's the full blown picture of it right there.

Well, and we'll visit the city.

That's what he painted right there that he's presenting.

And here's Kelly signing them.

Oh wow, he was so I I didn't get to meet him until the night of the whole thing.

Because you know, he couldn't come up um before then.

And so I got to remember those blue eyes, don't you?

Oh yeah.

And his haircut was very similar to an uncle of mine.

And um he had that update.

I I didn't get to meet him.