5:27Good afternoon and welcome everyone to Elizabethtown City Council Work Session for February 9th, 2026, and I'd like to ask Councilmember Tony Bishop if he lead us in the invocation, please.
5:38Father, we thank you for another wonderful day.
5:40We thank you for the sunshine and and the and the warmth.
5:45We just thank you for watching over our community as a whole, and we especially want to thank you for our employees and the dedication that they they do each and every day.
5:55We ask that you be with us this day, watch over us, lead us, guide us, and direct us in the way that you would help us to go.
6:01In your son's name we pray.
6:07If you would please join us in the pledge.
6:36Councilmember Bishop.
6:46You have a quorum mayor.
6:49And at this time, we are going to do something that we have not done before that I am proud to say that we're going to start doing throughout the year and the many years that I've been here and the years that uh will follow.
7:00We have plenty of our teammates in multiple different departments that often during the year get certifications to improve their abilities to do their job.
7:10And so we're going to recognize some of those folks today.
7:13And uh I'm gonna ask uh Mrs.
7:15Graham, who is our city clerk and also our alcohol beverage control officer, or director or manager, or whatever title she likes the best, administrator, if she would explain a little bit about who we're gonna recognize today.
7:31And I'd like to thank you for these additional appointments to ABC.
7:35Um, this is really uh supplemental for our department, especially to our dedicated officer Jones back here, who does a phenomenal job with investigations and with um reporting um case reports.
7:49So really we wanted this to be um just supplemental and another tool in the toolbox is what I'd like to say for them.
7:57And we want to be good partners with our businesses and continue to keep our citizens safe, and we feel this is another way to do this.
8:07So do we want to go around front?
8:33So we're in alphabetical order because there are several.
8:39If you'd please come up.
8:41Graham's gonna give you your certificate, and if you would stay up here and line up because Mrs.
8:44Emman wants to take a picture.
8:49Lieutenant Pete Chitla.
9:09Sergeant Dietrich Cooper.
9:24Sergeant Andrew Eckert.
9:29Sergeant Andrea Hare.
9:32You did right, Andrew.
9:37Officer Jared Hatfield, Officer Cooper Jones, Officer Richard Jones, Lieutenant Madison Kaklinski, Sergeant Gary Mark, Sergeant Chase McCown, Sergeant Michael Mertz.
10:07Sergeant Chase McCown.
10:15Sergeant Michael Mertz.
10:22Detective Eric Ryman.
10:27Officer Steve Richards.
10:33Sergeant James Rogers.
10:40Lieutenant Alex Ruiz.
10:45Sergeant Spencer Singer.
10:49And Lieutenant Austin Smith.
10:54Apparently Chief Thompson didn't get certified.
11:01I think Miss Edman wants to get a picture.
11:09I'm not certified either.
11:24Thank you all very much.
11:38From our parks and recreation department, I would like to introduce the director, Seth Breitner, if he would come up and talk about certified playground safety inspectors.
11:57Good afternoon, everybody.
12:08And in the parks and recreation industry, this is one of the most challenging certifications that you can get.
12:20And one of the things about that makes this very challenging is this test is basically a test on all the safety standards, the different things that go along with the playgrounds and things to make sure, like surfacing, the spacing between objects, the fall zones, everything like that falls within the guidelines that are set forth.
12:45And it makes it very challenging on this uh test because it's a hundred uh questi the question test.
12:52Um, less than 70% of the first time test takers actually pass this.
12:57I think within the last uh round, the two inspectors that gave this, um, they've had given this test for 30 years, they've taken it, they've never gotten a perfect score.
13:07And one of the things that makes this challenging is that by memory and by study, you have to go through all your measurements, all your distances, all your fall zones and everything, and remember that as you go through the test without any type of reference material.
13:22And why this matters within the person recreations agency is that over 200,000 injuries happen each year, and by having uh individuals that have this inspection, this helps the city's liability drastically.
13:37Um as part of our routine maintenance, our playgrounds continue to expand within the city.
13:43We have two very large playgrounds now in the Oasis and Funtopia, and we inspect those routinely every month.
13:51So there are two individuals, Sean Pope and Colin Miller that got the certification this past year.
13:58Colin was unfortunately not able to join us today, but Sean is here.
14:06Congratulations, Sean.
14:07We appreciate it, and apparently your studio is like you're dead.
14:24Now I also want to recognize those that have been recognized here today.
14:29Many of them are not on duty or their work day has ended, and I don't know what instructions Chief Thompson gave you all, but if you all are off or would like to leave, we will not hold it against you because we have some things that we're gonna talk about, and I hate to make you sit through all of it, unless you just would like to stay with us.
14:53None of them turned to look at him, did they?
15:00Thank you all very much.
15:19Up next is our stormwater department update with Mrs.
15:24Rita Davis, our stormwater director.
16:21You guys couldn't hear me.
16:24We also completed a project um on two failing corrugated metal pipes um in the West uh one under Westport and one under Michelle Drive um in that area.
16:35So we've uh doing what we can to try to update our our infrastructure.
16:41Um we also want to study some area some problem areas that we seem to have um with uh some extreme events, especially with last year getting all the rain that we got.
16:53Um so we uh uh have drainage studies underway at Hawkins Drive and Freeman Freeman Creek Estates.
17:02Uh those those areas were probably the worst hit with some of the flooding that we observed last year with the the extreme events, rain events that we had.
17:13Um we I also want to mention we are we have worked with FEMA.
17:17Uh they are remapping all the floodplains within the upper green river and uh Elizabeth Town, the bulk of Elizabeth Town Falls within that watershed.
17:26Uh so we will have new FEMA flood maps um here in the I'm I'm guessing the next couple of years.
17:33So that's another kind of study that's going on behind the scenes.
17:38Um we also had another project that we uh completed um our Keeneland Drive Ditch stabilization project.
17:47Um we have planned a spring survivability survey uh for the live stakes that were planted.
17:52Those are basically cuttings off of uh live plants or live trees that you can then put in the ground and they will propagate and grow.
18:02Um and so we do have a goal uh from this project.
18:06We want to harvest live stakes to utilize in other areas of the city.
18:10Um where we're observing some erosion on drainage ways.
18:17Um we are also recognized we want to try to uh uh get some grants where we can to help uh reduce stress on the city's uh general fund.
18:29Uh so we we're working currently on a very involved grant application for our Peterson Drive Bridge project.
18:37Um and then we also have recycling and composting grant application in progress with the state, and um we're hoping that maybe that recycling grant would support the purchase of a chipper for our public works department.
18:52Um some statistics uh for our stormwater department.
18:56Uh we had 153 new erosion control permits issued, uh 25 private water quality units were inspected.
19:03We had 12 illicit discharge um investigations in 2025 and 38 plan reviews.
19:10We have 176 stormwater requests.
19:13That's probably a lot of those are from all the rain we had last year.
19:18And we uh completed an audit with the Kentucky Division of Water for our MS4 program, and we got 100%.
19:25So we are really proud of that.
19:27That's apparently pretty atypical.
19:29So we're pretty um pretty excited that we um received that.
19:36We try to get out in the community as much as we can.
19:39So we've uh conducted several education sessions with city summer and fall camps.
19:45Um the macro invertebrates.
19:47Um that is a huge hit with the kids.
19:50They love to flip the rocks over and see the the critters that live underneath the rocks and uh in our creeks.
19:56Um so special thanks to Adam for coordinating all that.
20:00Um so special thanks to Adam for coordinating all that, and um we've been active with our floodplain simulator and also partnered with some of the local schools, New Highland and um Miss Mills over uh with her engineering class at Etown High School.
20:13So public engagement and events.
20:15We uh have our uh big East Storm Squatch.
20:19He's our big blue mascot that you know, most we're trying to get him out there a little bit more, but uh this was his third year in the Christmas parade.
20:29And um, you know, we we want to get the word out.
20:31We'd like to get him more in some of the local schools.
20:35The kids love him, they just don't know who he is.
20:38Jessica looks like she's a little tired of it.
20:42It's hard to deal with.
20:44Yeah, yeah, he can be a little extra sometimes.
20:48Um so uh something that's kind of put us on the map in our in the MS4 community, uh, our pet waste program.
20:57So we've distributed a thousand leash clip pet waste dispensers uh through vets and local groomers.
21:04Um we've installed several uh pet waste stations and we've kind of uh partnered with HOAs and private um homeowners if they have a piece of property where a lot of uh pets are utilizing or people are walking high traffic areas for pets to use those spaces.
21:23Um and so we've had a 70% increase in bags distributed since we kind of launched this program in 2023, and uh 54,000 pet waste bags distributed this year alone.
21:35So we're hoping that that's that those efforts are kind of helping um get some of that fecal coliform out of our our creeks uh with our pet waste.
21:47Um so we've kind of been partnered with um parks and rec to uh head off this uh Arbor Day and Tree City USA.
21:57Um so we've kind of set a date here recently of March 28th to do a Arbor Day celebration.
22:04Um we're gonna call it Tree Town.
22:06Um hopefully I can announce that.
22:09Kind of came up that's kind of new.
22:11We came up with that recently.
22:12Um so yeah, and that and we'll also uh potentially partner with the Kentucky Division of Forestry.
22:18We're gonna give away uh saplings as part of that effort.
22:22So that will be a Saturday where we'll have um kind of a dedication to uh trees.
22:29Um basin maintenance and adaptive management.
22:33So yeah, so strawberry basin we had planted probably about three years ago in wildflowers.
22:39Um those are those come up pretty strong in the spring, but as the uh growing season progresses, it starts to look a little unruly.
22:49So we're kind of gonna do a little different uh management of that basin to try to get the fall bloomers to come up.
22:57So um, and then um hoping to make that more of a monarch and pollinator habitat as well.
23:03But just so you know, it will not be like a manicured garden.
23:07It's gonna look a little weedy, but hopefully a little bit better than what it has in the uh later growing season months uh here the last couple seasons.
23:18Um just kind of to reiterate, you know, we've had some crazy um rain events here in the past year.
23:26Um uh we're expecting higher intensities just with the way kind of the climate trajectory is.
23:34Um, and we're also having challenges with design constraints due to geology and topography.
23:40Um now we have implemented our rain gauge system.
23:43Um we have three rain gauges here in the in the city.
23:47Um, and that has really helped us to try to figure out like what kind of frequency our storms are that we're receiving.
23:54Um, but our focus remains on resilience, risk reduction, and adaptive management.
24:01So some upcoming projects that you guys will probably be seeing here in this upcoming budget season.
24:07Um Valley Creek Lake and Trooper Lake Restorations.
24:11Um, those will be going into construction.
24:14Um that picture is actually Valley Creek Lake uh emergency spillway during the April storms.
24:21Um Henry Street phase two.
24:24We're hoping that that we we're in the easement acquisition phase of that, and we're hoping that that will be ready by fall for uh construction.
24:34If we we possibly will get some grant funding, but if we don't, we'll probably be asking for funding.
24:41Uh Clifford Drive Basin, uh currently 90% to dry design, so it will be ready for construction.
24:48And then some studies and designs that we're um hoping to incorporate in the budget.
24:53Deepwood Drive, uh St.
24:55John Estates, and French Street.
25:00For staffing, we have six total staff in the stormwater department.
25:04Um kind of in the stormwater management section.
25:07We have an inspector, an environmental scientist, and an assistant engineer, in addition to myself.
25:13Um, we have in our construction maintenance guys, one foreman, one heavy equipment operator, and a maintenance position.
25:20Um so we are looking to add uh an additional inspector to kind of replace James when he moved up to environmental scientist, but uh in that budget, and then an additional vehicle plus replacement of the vehicle we so lovingly referred to as Kevin, um, which you can see pictured.
25:40I think he's one of the oldest vehicles in the fleet, and he's starting to have some transmission issues.
25:45So uh we're probably gonna be looking to replace Kevin soon.
25:55All right, so our long-term strategy when we want to um explore acquisitions of additional properties within floodplains.
26:03Uh, we want to do some ordinance revisions, which we're currently um working on.
26:09Uh, we'd like to incorporate more green infrastructure and nature-based solutions to uh stormwater management.
26:15Um of course, we're gonna continue to identify aging infrastructure and areas for improvement.
26:21Um, one big program, well, maybe a couple programs that we're uh hoping to kick off will be our water quality program, which will help us to determine if our education outreach and uh pet waste programs are being effective, and also soil sampling program.
26:39And of course, our goal is to, you know, we want to improve our response time compliance and infrastructure oversight.
26:46So that's the stormwater update.
26:53And this is our team, our team, uh the stormwater, the management team in our office.
26:58So questions, comments.
27:02Do you care to quickly elaborate on James's position and what he's gone through to get there?
27:09So James has been working really hard the past couple of years to uh obtain a degree in environmental science.
27:20Um he's doing that through an online program with uh Southern New Hampshire University.
27:27Um he is on the tail end of his uh education.
27:33Uh so I I think he told me that he was gonna have his degree in August.
27:38So he's and he's getting really good grades too.
27:41So I uh definitely anticip don't anticipate any hiccups with that.
27:47I was gonna say I have not seen a report card.
27:50He usually keeps me informed of all his uh his grades, and I've I've maybe helped him a little bit with some of his homework.
27:58So do you think he expects us to refer to him as a scientist?
28:09So, but yeah, so that's that's the update.
28:14We appreciate your department.
28:15I know a lot of folks understand what you do, but I don't think that they understand the hard work that you all put in.
28:21And it doesn't matter what time of day or if it's night, if we get a bad storm event, you all are out checking things and looking to see what we can improve and do better.
28:29And most of all, you're fielding emails and phone calls that aren't always kind or from people that are happy at the time because they've got water in their house or water somewhere in their yard that they don't like, and so uh we appreciate it.
28:43We know the job's hard, and we think you all do excellent.
28:46Yeah, they uh usually are mad by the time they they've contacted us, but we have great great people on staff, and uh yeah, we have an awesome team, so everybody's uh helpful and passionate about what we're doing.
29:05Okay, we will open it up for public comments now.
29:18If you would state your name and your address.
29:22I'm not really comfortable with that.
29:25Well, I mean, we need to know where you live to know what you're talking about.
29:28It may not matter depending on what you're gonna say, but no, that's fine.
29:30We can get it later.
29:31Um my name is Caitlin, and I live near the Etown Community College.
29:36I recently moved there.
29:37I've been there for almost a year, and um there's I live like near the train tracks, and just on the other side of the train tracks is some sort of building.
29:50I don't know what they do besides make a lot of noise.
29:53And um during the snowstorm, it was super quiet.
30:00And then once the snowstorm like was done and they started working again, it was obnoxiously loud, and they had this like buzzing noise that was 24 hours for a good two weeks.
30:11Um I could hear it over my TV, and I am not deaf.
30:16So I don't have my TV up too terribly loud.
30:19My husband, on the other hand, he is not the greatest at hearing things.
30:24So he was even like, hey, we have to turn the TV up because I can't hear it because of this buzzing noise.
30:29That's with blinds closed, windows closed, so on and so forth.
30:32Um, and then earlier in the year, last year, I guess towards the end, um, I was very pregnant, and they use I think it's like a recycling center is what I'm complaining about.
30:44I really don't know what it is.
30:46Um, they use something, some sort of chemical that sets off a smell that is very obnoxious.
30:52And I was like eight months pregnant and I was struggling to breathe when I walked outside.
30:58Um my son is now five months old, and as he gets older, I really don't want him smelling that, or I don't know if it will affect him or not, but it's obnoxious.
31:09Like we thought there was a meth lab nearby, so we almost called dispatch.
31:14Um I don't like to call dispatch because I don't like to bother them, so I have yet to do so.
31:20Um, because I don't want to interrupt the police officers doing their normal day-to-day jobs.
31:25I feel like that's interrupting them as a former public safety person.
31:31So I don't know what the thing is on those other side of the train tracks, but it is obnoxious.
31:37And then they now do some sort of work on the weekends on Saturdays, they start early in the morning.
31:42I understand everybody's gotta work.
31:44Like I said, I do public safety, so my job is 24 or 7.
31:48So I understand that, but it is kinda important that they like understand that there's people nearby trying to sleep.
31:56I know that I'm not necessarily the only one that has the issue.
31:59Um, I know it's taken me a while to get here just because like I said, I was very pregnant and I'm still learning the ropes of the town while I still am because I haven't been here a year yet.
32:09So I don't know if we can look into that issue, but it is concerning because like I said, I don't know what the smell is.
32:15I don't know what effect it would have on me or my child.
32:20First of all, congratulations on the new child.
32:23That's a great gift.
32:24I hope you're enjoying.
32:26I know you probably don't have a lot of uh great sleep if you have one that that that's that young.
32:30It's the newborn trenches.
32:32And I think I know what business that you're talking about, and I will be glad or we will be glad to get in contact with them to see if they can explain what's putting out the odor that you're talking about.
32:42But this is the first report we've gotten on any of this as far as an odor or any problems.
32:47So uh we'll check into it, see what they say.
32:49I'm sure it's something that is regulated, but I can't promise that until we find out.
32:55So give us a little time.
32:56And if you don't mind, Mrs.
32:58Enman there in the pink, if you would give her your name and phone number and your address.
33:02Okay, uh, we'll check on it and get back with you.
33:05Yeah, I have been told from neighbors that I'm not the only one to complain.
33:09Um, they were I've actually asked them because they'd live there longer, so I've asked them what's going on, and they told me that they've come here multiple times and said something about it.
33:17Um, I will let that individual step up if they want to.
33:21I've like I said, I'm fairly new here, and I was way too pregnant to worry about any of that.
33:25So um well, that's the first I've heard of it.
33:28I don't know if any of y'all have talked to anybody about it, but let us check on it.
33:34All right, thank you.
33:41Uh Stuts and Smith, Sandy Circle over by the uh, you know, the college, uh, same thing.
33:47Uh last time I came, uh you guys had a plea, uh big police thing and whatnot, so I didn't want to interrupt, kind of drag on the meeting.
33:54I was trying to be somewhat cordial about that.
33:56I talked to you uh specifically about these problems after I talked to him about these problems with the off-gassing, uh, the noise, the shaking of my house from the Maltulsa 2 plant, which is the same thing that she's talking about now.
34:12So this is not the first time the city's heard about this.
34:15This is not the first time I've spoken to people in the city about it.
34:18And last time you looked me in the eye and told me to bring up neighbors because I'm the only one who cares about it.
34:26Um this is not the first time I've brought up the subject.
34:29So it is the first time that I've heard anything about any kind of gas gaseous odor.
34:34Uh what you brought up to me was a train track issue that you wanted the horn stopped.
34:38And you said that's rate of metals was too loud.
34:41I asked for a quiet zone to be put in at that one because the horn was loud, but that was not the only issue that I brought up.
34:48It was far from the one issue that I brought up, and as a matter of fact, I know that the Maltulsa metal metalsa too.
34:54Sorry, I'm a little bit unfamiliar with the name.
34:56Uh, they also were required to put up a sound wall.
35:04And I know that that was in the building permit because again, I've had discussions about this building.
35:09And uh that has also not been erected at any point.
35:12So uh I I have brought up this point to the city before.
35:16I have talked about it.
35:17This is not the first time this issue's been raised.
35:20I've spoken to people in the government about this.
35:23And it's funny, you know.
35:24I come in here and they they're talking about uh waste, environmental stuff and whatnot on the particular day that my neighbor wants to come up here.
35:32This was literally she just finally got tired of it and asked if she could if she could come with me two one because she didn't know where it was and all that stuff.
35:40So like what you've done with the place.
35:44And I will tell you we will check on it like I told your wife, and we'll we'll get back with you.
35:53Sorry, I she didn't tell me your last name, so I don't I don't know.
35:56Y'all came in together.
36:04Okay, city council information items.
36:07Our next meeting will be February 17th, 2026.
36:12And that's all I have.
36:13You all have anything you want to announce or talk about?
36:17I just like to uh thank everyone.
36:19My fellow city councilman, the mayor, Jessica.
36:23All the same boys just called me when I was out last week in the hospital.
36:26Uh we live in a great community.
36:28I've been contacted by text and phone calls and letters and cards, and I'm blessed to live in this community.
36:35And I just thankful I can serve this great community and uh great great community we live in.
36:41A tight-neck community, and I just love it.
36:46Well, we're glad you're feeling better and on the men for sure.
36:48We're glad to have you back.
36:55We will not go close meeting pursuant to KRS 61.810 section one.
37:01And we can adjourn now if I can get a motion and a second.
37:15Seeing none, motion carries.