0:00Mayor have six or one whenever you're ready, sir.
0:41Welcome to the city council meeting.
0:43It is Tuesday, May 28th, 2024.
0:47Call with me to order.
0:49It is approximate time is uh six oh two.
0:51Miss Mary, can we have a roll call, please?
0:53Councilmember Sutton.
0:56Councilmember Wana Watha Rodriguez.
0:58Uh we'll be arriving a little late, Mayor.
1:00Um Vice Mayor Curtis here.
1:05Councilmember Schneider.
1:06Councilmember Garcia.
1:09Councilmember Tarango.
1:13Anyone here would like to do the invocation for tonight's meeting?
1:19I mean what happened?
1:20If we can all stand for the invocation and then remain standing for the Pledge of Allegiance.
1:26Would you like to do the Pledge of Allegiance first or do the invocation first?
1:29Uh good evening, thank you very much.
1:30I'm a member of uh this community and uh I'm gonna go ahead and recite the prayer in Arabic, uh which is very close to the word Jesus spoke, and then I'm gonna translate and it'll be a prayer.
1:40It says all praises to the Lord and uh creator of this word, uh Rahman Rahim, the most merciful and most gracious manikium, he is the owner of the day of judgment that we all believe in.
1:54Yakana can state, we pray to you and only we worship only you.
1:59Anything Surat al Mustaheen, may Lord show us the right path, the right path of the people who are righteous who you're pleased with, not the people that uh were misguided.
2:09That is a prayer, and uh I would like to say thank you to the Lord first making us believers that we believe in and uh that we are accountable for everything that we do in this life and we believe in hereafter.
2:21That is the reason we are asking Lord's help that for us to make this world a better place.
2:26And uh I appreciate all the and uh pray for all the council members that are doing their best to make the city a best place for us to live.
2:34I have moved here almost two years ago, and I have loved it since.
2:37And uh it is all because of the hard work and uh the dedication of the uh council members and we all pray for all of you and uh we appreciate all of your help.
2:50Congratulations to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.
2:57One nation, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
3:09Anybody sign in for a public appearances?
3:11Do we know you have to know?
4:01All right, um the first one we have.
4:08Oh I'll go with uh key for there.
4:11Uh if you can state your name and your address for the record, and also realize that we have three minutes and after the timer is done, then that's that's all the time you'll have for three minutes.
4:21More time than I need, thank you.
4:22All right, thank you.
4:23Yeah, Keith Hyatt, I live at 5573 North Coyote Hill Road in um Robeson Ranch.
4:29And I just wondered if there's wanted to bring it to your attention the uh Toltec Road.
4:35Apparently it was supposed to be there was an agreement for it to be paved um from Hannah down to Chiracala.
4:43And you know, I had I contacted the mayor, and I think I've heard from McKenzie that there was an agreement that beginning January 1st of 24.
4:54Um there was like six months within 90 days.
5:00Um they'd start working on that road, and I understand that maybe that's not happening anymore.
5:04And it's it's really horrible.
5:06My back my back yard faces that.
5:09And this morning, you know, bus is going down at 40 miles an hour, and it's quite a quite a bit of dust.
5:15It makes it kind of unusable out there at times.
5:24Said if you can state your name and your address for the record, please.
5:29I'm at 3100 South Barrett Road in a way.
5:33Uh thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak about a topic that will affect all of us, our children, and the whole world.
5:39We have the power to make a difference.
5:40That is the reason I'm here to convey the message to every one of us and do uh so every one of us can do our small part.
5:50Uh I'll use a uh example.
5:53Imagine in South America there's a group of people called let's say Incas who are getting killed by all the states in South America.
5:59We Americans have big heart, we let the Incas in while every other country closes the borders.
6:03The Incas are better trained, educated than us.
6:06All of the South American countries get with the help of United Nations to divide United States into half, give Incas half, and we get the other half.
6:14As soon as they partition United States, the Incas start a campaign of ethnic cleansing us and move all of us to Florida into a concentration camp, close all borders.
6:23Their goal is to make life so miserable that we'll just leave.
6:27Now all of the South American countries are providing weapons to Incas to ban us, slowly take over United States states one by one.
6:35Now Incas control all of United States territory.
6:38And every two years, they come and know the lawn in Florida, meaning they kill our children and young men, anyone who resist.
6:45If you fight for land and homes, all in South Americans call us terrorists, rest of the world thinks of us as freedom fighters, just like George Washington was a terrorist, Gandhi was a terrorist, Nelson Mandela was a terrorist, and they was on a terrorist list.
6:59This is the exact same situation that is in Palestine and Israel.
7:02Everything we've been told for the last 70 years is propaganda and lies.
7:06There have been 13 wars so far, and it will continue until we have peace or a third world war.
7:12Just need one domino to fall, and there will be nuclear war, and the fallout will be in Europe within four days, and the nuclear fallout will be in New York in two weeks.
7:21First world war costs 55 million deaths, second world war costs more than 100 million, and the third world war will cost over a billion lives and misery for the rest of us.
7:31The genocide we're witnessing now is only possible because our politicians have sold their souls for money just to get elected.
7:38We provide bombs that are killing innocent women and children.
7:45Israel is in violation of countless United Nations resolutions.
7:48We are Christians, Muslim and Jews.
7:50None of us support this genocide.
7:52We'll be asked and have to account on the day of judgment by supporting Israel to kill innocent Palestinians.
7:57We are alienating 57 countries with 1.5 billion Muslims who are our potential customers.
8:03We are Christians, Muslim and Jews, and our morality does not allow us to steal somebody else's land, kill innocent women and children, demolish their homes and starve them to death.
8:13Two-state living in peace is the only solution.
8:16Vacate Gaza, vacate West Bank immediately, release our prisoner.
8:20Most prisoners are children throwing rocks.
8:22Please support a real two-state solution, not the fake one going on for the last 50 years.
8:27Immediate withdrawal from Gaza, West Bank release of our prisoners.
8:31I'm an American just like all of us.
8:33It is our responsibility to educate people and make it just more and equitable society that is based on our Christian Muslim and peace values.
8:41And we leave the good place for our children.
8:43And I'll be in the back if anybody has any questions and anybody who would like to ask, elaborate, have I mean have me elaborate on it?
8:48I'd really appreciate that.
8:49All right, thank you.
8:51Next, we're gonna go to council member reports.
8:54Anybody else start on my right side?
8:59Uh over the past week I attended the APS summit contingency meeting along with city staff and Eloy Faya.
9:07We discussed uh their preparedness, and I'm happy to say they seem to be they have it a really good handle on the upcoming summer.
9:16We also discussed last year's heat wave and what they did.
9:20So we exchanged phone numbers and contact information that I hope we don't have to use this coming summer.
9:39Well, uh yesterday we were at the um Memorial Day program that was hosted by the Chamber of Commerce in the city of Eloy and a lot of other sponsors, and it was a really nice turnout.
9:53We always do a very good job honoring our our loved ones.
9:57Um it was really nice.
10:00Thank you, Paul and the chamber, Andrew, for putting it all together.
10:04Um the flags, of course, from JW.
10:07He gets up early in the morning and displays our oh glory down.
10:11Were you with them too, Jose?
10:12Okay, Jose was with them too, and displayed our flags along the main street and also at the cemetery and beautiful.
10:19So thank you, all those that were involved um putting that together.
10:23So um, yeah, that's pretty much it.
10:27I do have one other announcement.
10:29Um the other day myself, I received a phone call, and of course, I took it to voicemail.
10:35Uh, shouldn't I have?
10:36It was Congressman uh Juan Cisco Monty.
10:39Uh then he called David and tried to look for me.
10:42And so of course I David calls me panicking.
10:45He goes, hey, you gotta take this phone call.
10:48So I talked to our Congressman Juan Cisco Mani for a little bit, and you know, um saw how he was doing, he's doing a good job with campaigning.
10:56But he wanted to let me know that um we applied for a grant um from the federal government several about a month ago, I guess, or several months ago, and there were 60 applications that were that were submitted, and out of 60, we were chosen um by his group and almost awarded five point four million dollars for a pro for um the mill and fill on frontier all the way from Bataglia to the Castle Gran City limits.
11:32So, like he said, it's not we're not ready to uh pull out the champagne yet, because it's let's go to the appropriations committee and be on the bill, but he wanted to let us know that it's looking very good for us, and we were able to announce that um soon we will shall be recipients of over five million dollars for our our roads, our major road.
11:56So thank you, David and everybody, the staff who put that together in in a very timely manner because they told us on a Wednesday it needed to be done by Thursday, something like that.
12:05And so thank you and Matt for you guys and and our our grants coordinator for putting it together.
12:12Um it's it's things like that teamwork, putting it together, and so this is it, and I know I've been pushing the staff to go for the grants, go for these.
12:22And this was uh a project that we had on our capital improvement project plan, and um so it'll be less money out of our coffers.
12:31And um, hopefully when the bill goes through that we will receive the five point I think it's almost five point four million dollars total for this whole project.
12:40So kudos to everybody that was involved.
12:42So that's the major announcement that I was supposed to do for today.
12:51David Thank you, Mayor, members of council.
12:56Um, yeah, just to in echo on that, we've still got a couple of other grants outstanding with cinema and Kelly.
13:02Uh we put in for a two million dollar uh cat RMS record system upgrade for the police department.
13:08So hopefully we get answers on those soon too, and we get awarded those.
13:11That'd be great news on that front as well.
13:14Uh jumping into a couple of announcements.
13:16Speaking of PD, happy to announce that our two uh new laterals just started with the police department and they're out there doing their field training right now.
13:25And then our new officers that we hire through the Gilbert Police Academy have completed their FTO of the field training and are out on their own right now.
13:33They'll be doing that by the end of this week, in the beginning of next week, they'll be out on their own patrolling the city streets of Eloy.
13:40So good news on that.
13:40We're really proud of them.
13:41That was our first endeavor into the Gilbert Academy, and they've come out of there, been uh stellar officers and really look forward to having them be part of our family.
13:51And then we have our summer youth camp is sold out.
13:55So exciting news that that is sold out.
13:58And following that, this weekend, Saturday, 6 a.m.
14:01to noon in the main street park is a community yard sale.
14:04So who's ever got stuff that they want to sell in the community yard sale this Saturday, please uh reach out to the community services department and they can certainly help you out and get you taken care of on that front.
14:15And then our dust bowl, it's finishing up this week.
14:18If you drove by it coming into the council meeting today, you'll see that all the debris is gone.
14:22The company put in some fill dirt and they're get bringing more in to level that off once that area is leveled off.
14:27They'll be bringing in some grunt rock and whatnot to fill in that space and and make it usable until we come up with a more appropriate plan for for that space.
14:37So this is just temporary, so if any way to see his rock and nothing else, that's until we get a plan approved through council.
14:43Um we'll keep working on that soon to come.
14:46And then my last announcement for today is I mentioned it here and there throughout budget meetings and talking with council members, but this is the last week of our economic development specialist Jeff Fairman.
14:57He's been with us for just over five years now, and he's retiring.
15:01He's finally hanging up his hat and gonna go camping and whatever else he needs to do.
15:06So his last day will be Friday.
15:08So if you happen to see him around, say hi to him or shoot him an email or whatever, he'd probably really appreciate that.
15:14And that is all I have.
15:15Anybody have any questions for David?
15:18I got a question more for Paul about the the summer camp.
15:22How many residents versus non-residents do we have signed up for that?
15:27Uh mayor, I don't know at the top of my head, but information matters.
15:35And we have our our pool that's open as well, too, and that's that's going pretty well.
15:40Okay, good for the kids.
15:43All right, thank you.
15:44Next, we're gonna go to consent agenda.
15:46All items listed with an asterisk are considered to be a routine matter and will be enacted by one motion and roll one roll call vote of the council.
15:54There'll be no separate discussion on these items unless the council members will request.
15:58In which event the item will be removed from the consent agenda and considered in its normal sequence on the agenda.
16:04So we have items A all the way down to O.
16:09Anybody like to discuss any of these consent agenda items?
16:16Hearing none, do I hear a direction from council?
16:18Which, if you'd like to move forward.
16:24Mayor, I'll make a motion to approve um items A through O.
16:31Mayor, can I get a roll call, please?
16:33Councilmember Sutton.
16:39Councilmember Schneider?
16:41Councilmember Garcia?
16:43Councilmember Tarango.
16:46The motion passed unanimously, Mayor.
16:48Next one go to business item A discussion and consideration of formally adopting the recent completed water and sewer master plan prepared, prepared by Wilson Engineers.
16:59Mayor, Madam Vice Mayor, members of the Council.
17:01As you're aware, we've been working with Wilson Engineers to update our water and wastewater master plans.
17:06The last updates that we had were from 2005 and 2007.
17:10Since then, we've gone through a significant amount of growth and interest in the city of Eloy, and the assumptions that we had in the original wastewater and water master plans didn't really uh apply anymore.
17:23And so we reached out to an engineering firm to update our water and wastewater master plan.
17:29If you will recall, they they came and gave a presentation to you.
17:32Uh high level summary of that.
17:34We now have the hard copies of that as well as an executive summary uh that is is being brought to you for formal adoption that we can implement in our in our planning process.
17:49Anyone have any questions for Matt?
17:54Matt, is this plan talk about potential expansion to certain areas that we identified as the growth areas?
18:08And it talks about if we needed to what our projections would be 10 years, 15 years, 20 years.
18:16We actually have the wastewater master plan as a 30-year build out to out to the year 2020 3.
18:23Um, and with that, we have it segmented so that every 10 years we can look and see where our projected milestones are and where we track with that.
18:31And how soon are we going to need to expand our sewer treatment facility?
18:37It depends on the on the growth that we have.
18:39We're projecting in about 10 to 15 years right now with the current growth rates.
18:44We should be in a point where we should be expanding our wastewater treatment plan.
18:48The Department of Environmental Quality mandates that once we hit 80% of our capacity, we start the design for the next for the next phase.
18:56Right now, our current wastewater capacity is two million gallons per day.
19:00Right now we're running about 700,000 gallons per day, so we still have a little bit of time.
19:08Anyone have any questions for the public?
19:16Do I hear um direction for council?
19:22Motion to adapt adopt um the recent completed water and sewer master plans.
19:40Can we get a roll call, please?
19:44Councilmember Tarango.
19:48Councilmember Sutton.
19:51Councilmember Garcia?
19:57Councilmember Schneider.
20:00The motion pass unanimously, Mayor.
20:02Thank you very much.
20:03And just for the record, that those will be one of will be available at City Hall for review, the other will be at the public works office for review if anybody wants to review that.
20:14Next one item B requirements for walls and fences on single family lot zoning text amendment.
20:21Dan good afternoon, mayor members of the council.
20:26Dan Seimer Community Development.
20:29And as soon as I'll get up.
20:54The item before you today is a request.
21:01Let me go back here.
21:14Let me get it going here now.
21:19Okay, the item for you today is a request uh staff to for the council to initiate a zoning text man from for walls and fences on residential lots.
21:28Just a brief overview of the presentation.
21:30I'm gonna go through some current circumstances that we're seeing in the industry right now and in the city, but the objectives of the amendment are the proposed provisions and implementation plan and any questions or answers that the council may have.
21:49So what we're seeing right now or the past two years is a development growth in the Tultic and North Toltic and Robertson Ranch.
21:58That's where our primary development has been occurring.
22:01These are formerly two North Toltec and Toltic are two formerly older subdivisions that platted in the 70s, some in the late 60s, mostly in the 70s.
22:11And we're seeing a reassert resurgence of development activity in those areas.
22:16These two areas do not have uh homeowners associations, nor do they have master developer, somewhat like Robuson Ranch.
22:25And that this creates a decom the economy between the two and our other areas of the community where there's no standards.
22:33Uh development today is currently most subdivisions are built with uh walls and fences around yards and have a uniform development format, which you don't see that in these areas.
22:48So the intent of the amendment is to establish some uniformity between these the existing developments and the newer and older areas by screening the rear and side yards, and this has an enhanced uh neighborhood aesthetics.
23:04So as it pertains to these areas, as you can see in the top two pictures, these are two developmental areas in the city.
23:11Um the fences uh screen the backyard compared to the two or lower developments, which are both in ones in Toltec and ones in North Toltuck, and it just happens to be that I picked two pictures that I realized, or three pictures that were all the same developer.
23:29So the reality is what it is.
23:35Uh current development standards when you have uh a development that's proposed by a master developer has standards in those that don't.
23:44So the idea is to screen the size and rear yards.
23:47Now the entire rear and side yards don't have to be screened, as you can see in the top two pictures.
23:54So and that kind of uh uh adds to the enhanced community character.
24:02So the requirement is to propose to have side and rear yards with a minimum six foot tall wall, as kind of showing it or fence.
24:11Doesn't have to be block, could be wood, it could be metal.
24:15So that's what the requirements are stating.
24:22Um as I was saying, that require the rear requirement of the rear and side yards.
24:29Now, currently the proposed draft has those requirements in the with lots that are two and a half acres or larger.
24:37I would recommend reducing that down to like an acre and a quarter, and that's because you start getting into more of the estate uh residential developments, which you have more open spans of uh open areas, and furthermore, the cost of include enclosing these uh areas is significantly higher.
25:05As it pertains to the rear and side yards, you know, we would require those with new development and reconstruction of existing developments, and that as proposed currently, any addition or accessory structure that has a value greater than 60% of the property.
25:21Um, the reason that this is important is once you put a standard like this in, all residential development properties under that side become legal non-conforming.
25:30The intent of this is to allow for those property owners to still invest in their properties while staying legal conforming.
25:39But once they reach a certain valuation, then that standard kicks in.
25:44You could reduce this down to 25% of the property value.
25:48You would get more people into compliance, but it would have the effect of lowering that investment.
25:56So that's why I have it at 60%, although I am asking for council direction on that.
26:04Minimum height of five feet.
26:06This picture on the left, this is your standard lot, what that starts to look like in your uh planned communities, and also adjacent to open space areas.
26:16Other the proposed standards are recommending allowance for a reduced height of an opaque wall adjacent to open space areas of four feet, does not require it, just allows it, and larger open space areas of two feet of opaque wall allows for those areas to be more open, and of course, greater than 200 feet allows for a complete open rail fencing.
26:43So the intent of that is to allow for a variety in development standards and a variety of open space enhancements, but the standards also include the council to approve modifications as part of the subdivision plat.
26:59So that these are just for those new developments or new properties being developed.
27:05A master developer can come in and propose an alternative standard to you as part of the final planning process.
27:12And again, the variety of wall designs is to enhance the neighborhood appearance of open space, provide options, allow for property owners to enjoy open space areas, and of course, it helps with the natural surveillance of those areas.
27:28If the council chooses to initiate this amendment today, we would probably be in front of planning commission as a non-action item at our June hearing with a public open house in July.
27:43Potentially, depending on uh the fall of the planning commission hearing, we may have a July, maybe early August planning commission with a council hearing in uh August, early September for adoption, and then it goes into effect month later.
28:01So, council, we are recommending the city council initiate the amendment.
28:05Although staff is looking for specific directions on what the lot size should be for initiating that requirement as currently drafted.
28:13I said it has a two and a half acre size and anything smaller.
28:16I do recommend reducing that down to a 1.5 to allow for those estate rural communities to develop out, and then of course, the valuation of when that should kick in for the lots that are currently developed.
28:31So mayor, I'll hand it over to you for any questions and direction.
28:35Anyone have any questions?
28:39Uh if you require the property owner of a new construction to put these would the wall or fence go in a property line, or where would it be relative to the property line?
28:50The way that the code is written that was attached, it does not have to be the entire yard.
28:58So some property owners choose to enclose some of the yard and some choose to enclose only part of the yard.
29:05And that's the two developments that I showed you there.
29:07One had the full yard enclosed on the property lines and then the setback, and one only had the rear yard.
29:14So by requiring it on all property lines, you're essentially close enclosing the entire yard.
29:22So it gives it an option.
29:25So the that's my question though.
29:27If it is it on the property line, or you know, if it's a new construction and I have a lot and I'm building on it, but the lot next to me is baked today.
29:38So I'm going to re be required to put up a wall or the building.
29:42Will that wall go in that property line or will be inside the property line?
29:46And this afterwards, if a resident moves new lot is then sold, who's responsible for the wall afterwards?
29:55It's a good question.
30:04Technically, you need both property owners' approval to build on the property line.
30:08And that's where you see in your newer subdivisions, they're all built on the property line because the developer owns the property.
30:15When a new development comes through on a vacant lot next door, we do require them to be at least the width of the wall off.
30:23So you can be right on the property line facing it, but it does have to be off unless they provide authorization from the adjacent property owner.
30:34So maintenance, so if I own uh the wall and I have it uh uh four to two feet inside the property line, I could paint and maintain my side to wall and say the heck with this idea, even though it's facing another resident who part of us do anything about it.
30:53That is correct, Mayor members or council.
30:57It is an un it is an un an ongoing issue that happens through all the cities throughout the communities I worked on, worked in, is who maintains the wall.
31:07But the wall is there and essentially one or the two, they both usually end up maintaining the wall.
31:20Um I like your recommendation that the net area is reduced to um one and one quarter.
31:28I think you're right with the fact that 2.5 acres is kind of getting into horse properties and different types of estates, and it's maybe way too costly to do an opaque fence around something of that size.
31:42Um so I'm in agreement with that.
31:46And then the second point um with the additions to the primary building.
31:51So I just want to understand this.
31:53You're saying you're asking a question, should it be 25% or 60%?
31:58Is that what you're asking?
32:00So if I the intent is to bring properties into conformance, but yet those that are not hinder them from reinvesting in their property.
32:10So my initial draft has it at 60% of the property value.
32:16If that addition is greater than 60% of the property value, then they have to build the wall.
32:32So or any number in between.
32:41Um my personal feeling, I don't know what everyone else feels, but is something like 50 or 60 percent.
32:46Um would be reasonable.
32:48I think we want to um, you know, make this happen for new um developments going up, but we don't want to punish you know, or or or create financial hardship, let's say, to existing residents.
33:02Um, yes, it would be nice if they can conform one day, but um, you know, we don't I don't think we need to force that just yet.
33:08Um so I think the something in the spirit of 50 percent makes sense to me for this particular point.
33:20For the question to following up on council member uh Curtis's question.
33:25What with property valuation?
33:28What is the valuation?
33:30Is it market value, tax value, and then if it's uh additions, is that addition, the cost addition, or how how's that evaluation going to work when you're saying I have an addition compared to to what?
33:45Yeah, great question, American council, councilman Schneider.
33:49The valuation of a property that has written as including your draft is the valuation assigned by the county assessor.
33:58That's the property assessed value.
34:00The valuation of the approvement is calculated at the time of building permit.
34:06So we actually do calculate the valuation of almost every building permit that goes it goes in.
34:13So for example, most I'll use great gold gold bond because in my head right now.
34:19When it was permitted, the first phase was 74 million dollars.
34:24Now we all know it costs a lot more to build that plant.
34:28But the valuation of those improvements, that's what it was at.
34:33So we use a reason number that's uh published by the building code association.
34:41So there is a potential for someone who's owned their home for a while, and the appraised value could be fairly low, but you had to do an addition or something, the new construction, the uh 50 60 percent level could be reached very easily.
35:00That is correct, and that's part of the reason why I had it in there at the six well, it's the majority of the reason why I had it in at that 60 percent level.
35:08It could be it could be achieved fairly quickly.
35:12Um and not wanting to hinder people because once once we put a provision in like this, either you're conforming or you're non-conforming.
35:22And the non-conforming provisions state that any addition or any modification has to conform by providing an allowance in there, you set a window that allows them to flex that improvement non-conformity.
35:41I think it's a great idea.
35:44Um I mean, especially in the new houses, the new developments in the Taltech area, it's wide open.
35:52And so, you know, I I've I've always thought it would be a great idea and to change it and make it look more pleasing, I guess.
36:04Um to the neighborhoods, yeah.
36:07Um, especially on a new bill, they just add that to the house anyways.
36:13So it's still affordable.
36:14Houses here in Eloy so still more affordable now than anywhere else.
36:19And so um I I do know there's some new bills that are are coming in with fences already.
36:26Yeah, quite a few, yeah.
36:30Yeah, there's one particular builder that is not.
36:33Um so but I think it's a great idea somehow.
36:38Uh I'm not a really big fan of the the metal, the the shine the shiny ones, um, but anything else I'm okay with it, unless it's painted or something.
36:48So the glare than heat.
36:51So yeah, there actually is in the zoning code of provision.
36:55I just do that one in there for example purposes.
36:59The zoning code does require non-reflective surface.
37:02Non-reflective, okay.
37:06And a light reflectivity value less than 40%, which is a real challenge to get implemented with single family homes.
37:15All right, and in the houses now would be grandfathered in once this went in effect in September.
37:22Lack of a better term, it would it would they would fall into the the nonconformity issue where that 60% 60% of the valuation would kick in.
37:32So when if they did any modifications, yeah, yeah.
37:36That from here on out.
37:38Which is which is fine.
37:40Yeah, new construction.
37:41So it's existing, no changes, no changes.
37:47And I have somebody from the audience like to speak.
37:50I moved here from Chandler about 40 years ago.
37:56I just had a quick question.
37:57I moved here from Chandler, and I'm in realistic development also.
38:01Uh used to look like Eloy 40 years ago.
38:04Does the city have a guideline as to what we'd like to look like after 30 or 40 years?
38:08Chandler or Gilbert.
38:09And also, do you use any of their codes as a guide to help us not do too much work and just kind of see if their codes make sense in Eloy and adapt those?
38:20That was my question.
38:23Dan, did you want to answer that one?
38:28Chandler and uh Gilbert are unique in the sense that a lot of them were developed by master developers.
38:35And a lot of the uniformity that you see is because of those developers.
38:41The we do have design guidelines in our ordinances, and most of the new developments address those conditions.
38:51When it comes down to an individual single family home, even in those communities and ours, the the guidelines are fairly limited.
39:01So and that's pretty much intentional for allowing people to have flexibility.
39:07So we do have a standards that are unique to Eloy, but they're not very specific as Channel Chandler or Gilbert, and for that matter, Tempe or Peoria.
39:23Um you have a community that I'll use North Scottsdale, for example, they do not have single family design guidelines, but yet you there's a uniformity there.
39:33That's that's what happens when you have a master developer.
39:36So any other questions.
39:45Oh, well, that's it.
39:49So right now it's just information.
39:51It's it is a request for initiation.
39:58So it would require a vote of the council.
40:01Will that vote of the council be for the 60%?
40:05Oh the 25% of the 2.5 acota 1.5.
40:09Is it staff recommended?
40:13Staff was recommending.
40:16The 60% and the 1.25.
40:20And uh if you include that in your recommendation to initiate, I'd be fine, or I do have it here in a minute.
40:27So I'll make a motion to um move the proposal on to the next level.
40:35Um with the uh recommended 1.25 acres and the 60 percent um value if there's an addition to the primary building.
40:46All right, thank you.
40:50Mayor, council members, one council member has a question, but procedurally, we have a motion.
40:54We have a second, then we would have discussion so I can address the question at that time.
40:59Do you have a question?
41:01We already have a motion on this.
41:04Oh it's initiate initiation is an action, mayor, council members.
41:14Um the agenda item that was posted did say business possible discussion and our action on the following and B was requirements for walls, fences and a single family zoning text amendment.
41:26We're just going to move the process forward to start forward.
41:30There is going to be public input, planning and zoning.
41:33It may come back to you the same way, it may come back a little different, but you'll have another opportunity to come in discuss and decide those amendments on there.
41:41But we're just starting the motion.
41:42The intent of the motion is to start the process and to give our planning and development director basically some guidelines of what to put in the pro in the in the um in the moving forward on it so that basically everybody understands what we're looking at.
41:56It's staff recommendation and and council recommendations still has to go before planning and zoning.
42:02Public hearing in the timeline back to council in September.
42:06Hopefully in September for approval.
42:10Based on planning uh the the public hearing steps, maybe there's more staff or council questions.
42:17So this isn't a done deal.
42:18There's just this is just getting the ball rolling, pretty much.
42:23Just for a little clarity, Mayor, uh, a zoning tax amendment, and a zoning map amendment can be initiated by the council myself.
42:33Um or the planning and zoning commission, but an initiation action has to occur.
42:43And this yeah, yeah.
42:49No, I was just gonna second a motion to uh uh continue on with this uh proposal with the recommendations for the recommendation, yeah.
42:59So the recommendation is 60 percent and 1.25 acres.
43:05Okay, and there's a first and second.
43:07If I can get a roll call, please council member Snyder.
43:18Yes, Vice Mayor Curtis, yes.
43:23Councilmember Garcia?
43:25Yes, Councilmember Sutton?
43:28Yes, Councilmember Tarango.
43:32Yes, the motion passed unanimously, Mayor.
43:35All right, thank you.
43:36All right, ladies and gentlemen.
43:38Uh you're more than welcome to stay, but we're gonna go in executive session.
43:41Um it's with regarding uh the city manager, so we'll probably be here for 72 hours.
43:48Um I know I I always say you know a couple hours, so with with this, it's pretty intense.
43:58So I'm gonna recommend two hours with Mary for recording, Steve, if necessary, and then David, of course, he's on the hot seat.
44:10Um recognizing uh what we're doing is should we have the session without David to start and have David come in?
44:21Because I think we need to have some discussion among our council members.
44:27Uh before we bring David in.
44:29Just uh throw that out.
44:32I was gonna see if we have David like maybe an introduction and then kind of kick him out and then we talk and then bring him back that way, it's fine.
44:42Yeah, not really kick you out, you know, but yeah, okay.
44:47So two hours with Mary's recording, David on the hot seat, Steve for legal purposes if we need it.
44:56Um motion do I hear a second?
45:02All in favor say aye.
45:07All right, you guys uh we're gonna end our general session, and then uh you're more than welcome to stay.
45:11If not, you guys have a good week or good week and uh see you next time.
45:15I just want to show you guys some time.