Okay, but we do have a scheduled public appearance, don't we?

At this time, I'd like to ask the people from First Things First presentation on health and development of young children in Arizona.

Come up, state your name.

And welcome to the city of Eloy.

Oh boy.

Okay.

Thank you, Mayor Sutton.

Thank you, council members, for letting us speak to you tonight.

My name is Katrina DeVinny.

I am the Panell Regional Director for First Things First.

And like I told somebody as we came in, we are not the good news people, but we are the important news people.

So I'm gonna go through a little bit about FTF, who we are, how we're funded, all of that, just to give anyone who's not familiar a little bit of a background.

So our picture or vision for Arizona is one in which all Arizona children are healthy and ready to succeed in school and life.

Here's first things first mission and vision.

Our goal is to partner with the community and organizations to better support families and children and therefore strengthen our community.

I keep hitting the wrong button.

First things first was created in 2006.

Their first funding plan cycle was in 2008.

We are funded by tobacco tax revenue that is shared with the general fund.

So first things first is the funding source.

We give our money to our grants and partners, and then they perform whatever service it is out to children.

So what that looks like here in Penal County, uh, we have a $5.2 million budget per year.

Um we have an 11-person council that is made up of volunteers that decide where that funding is going.

We're in the third year, we're on fiscal years, so we just uh July will start our new fiscal year, state fiscal year 26.

Um state fiscal year 2027 will be the last year of the funding cycle, and then we start a new one in 2028.

So with that funding here in Penal, we fund uh hearing and vision screening, dental screening, developmental screenings.

All these services are free and have nothing to do with income.

Uh parent education, our fund van for out of the Apache Junction Library that travels all around the county doing parenting education classes.

If there's something more specific that a family needs help with or support, we do have a home visitation program that will come into the home if that's not comfortable meeting the community, but that one-on-one support for a family.

Um and then we do have our signature program, Quality First, that tries to raise the quality of care in child care centers.

And then we do put a large amount of money into scholarships that allow access to those quality programs.

So that's the good news.

That's all the good work we're doing in Penal County.

Um, and this is why.

Um early childhood impacts a lifetime.

It can affect everything.

Uh kindergarten readiness, third grade reading scores, all the way through workforce readiness.

And when a child starts behind, they often stay behind.

And I have one of those.

Um, he's he started behind.

We didn't realize we thought he was rambunctious and spirited.

Uh no.

So we didn't have him diagnosed by a developmental pediatrician until in between first grade and second grade, and it was a real catch-up to try to get him on track and tracking developmentally with his peers.

I can report he just turned 16 and is tracking very well, but it took a lot of hard work, so I know what this what early childhood means.

But we do have a shared vision, I think, for Eloy.

Eloy's always been the town that when I talk about it to other people.

I've been working in early childhood since 2011 in Penal.

I it's it's the community town.

It's the family town.

It's the town that cares about its people, its citizens.

You guys just you really take care of Eloy.

So we have that same, we have that same vision uh for the children.

And we know that quality early childhood um supports problem solving, communication, social interaction, those things that my son took years and years to develop really are ideal to develop in those early years before they get into kindergarten.

Um and these are the things employers want.

If you're looking at this, you know, we're trying to give you all broad perspectives for why early childhood matters.

You know, employers need people that can problem solve but manage their emotions, get along with others.

That all starts in the first five years.

And we aren't the only state in crisis, but our state is in a child care crisis.

Even though we have this funding and are able to do what we do in early childhood, there's a severe gap.

And my colleague will share the really good news with you about the local numbers later, but there are people trying to do innovative solutions across the country and in Arizona to try to combat the child care crisis that we're in.

So this is a business case look at it.

You can see that there's increased costs, there's women and men coming out of the workforce because they can't afford child care.

There's missed work.

So employers lose over a billion dollars annually due to employee absences and turnover because of a lot in large part due to lack of child care.

And we also know the flip side of it that it's a huge investment.

Let me get my notes so I can tell you this didn't come from my brain.

This is from research by the Nobel Prize winning economist James Heckman, and he showed that for every $1 we invest in early childhood, there's a $16 return.

So we have increased high school graduation, post-secondary education, health outcomes, decreased special education needs, dependence on social welfare, and crime.

So Arizona works when child care works.

Love that little tagline.

Should put it on a t-shirt.

And I'll turn things over to my colleague Don Wilkinson.

Thank you all so much.

Good evening.

Thank you, Mayor, Council members.

My name is Don Wilkinson from Enhancing Early Childhood, and I'm a lucky grant to you, first things first.

Working on the early childhood crisis and workforce pipelines here in Pennell County for early childhood educators.

And as Katrina mentioned, we do have a child care crisis throughout Arizona, but we also have it specifically here in Eloy.

So one thing to consider as I'm going through my presentation is do you consider early childhood a service or part of the education continuum?

And I think that makes a difference as we think about early childhood.

I think Katrina kind of laid out all the reasons why it needs to be seen as part of the education continuum because you know we start learning extremely early in life.

90% of our brain is developed by the time we're five.

So those early years are extremely important years for a young person's development.

So straight to the numbers.

So according to census, there are 1,500, 1534 children here in Eloy.

There are 156 child care slots.

So that means spaces available.

Most of those are filled and probably have waiting lists here in Eloy because the gap then is that there's 1,378 children that still need slots.

So that's a 90% gap.

We also recognize this is sheer numbers.

Total number of children, total number of slots, and the difference, kind of basic math.

We do recognize that there are some children in some families where child care would never be an option.

They stay at home, they've they've planned out their lives so that their children stay at home.

But the majority of the children being able to get into some kind of early childhood education before they start kindergarten really helps to narrow that gap of learning that they have coming in.

You'll talk to kindergarten teachers all the time who will say, yes, we can specifically identify those that have been in early childhood and those that have not.

So there are six licensed child care programs in Eloy, and you can see here that four of them are head start programs, and two are home-based or family child care.

Family child care to be licensed, can have up to 10 children.

And the head starts, as you see, are as you know, are they run school schedules?

So they're off for seven weeks throughout the year.

Um they usually are done with their classes by 3, 3:30 in the afternoon.

I mean, we all know before and after school programs exist because parents need to be at work sooner and have to stay later than three o'clock.

There's really no eight to three or eight to two schedules that work.

And so really looking at child care and thinking about child care options, there really aren't any child care options in Eloy.

And that's not even to start to think about the 24-7 care that you may need with some of the new industries coming into Pennell County.

We know they're going to be 24-7 industries.

And so what happens on Saturday night at 2 a.m.

Who's caring for the children then?

Another thing that we have across the state and here in Pennell County is a staffing shortage, a staffing issue.

Because early childhood, and you'll see in a minute, has some employee issues.

We have staffing shortages, there's longer waiting lists, they're unable to open some of their classrooms.

So even though there are those 150 some slots, they may not all be opened because they can't find people to come and work in those classrooms because of some of the employment issues.

We talk a lot about some of the workforce development initiatives that are out there.

Unfortunately, early childhood usually doesn't fall under any of the available options for that because we don't make livable wages in early childhood.

And when they want to promote workforce development, they want to promote jobs that where people will make livable wages.

And as you can see here, early childhood does not make livable wages.

So we have to do something to address this.

Not only are we making poverty level wages, there's no benefits, it's difficult working conditions, and they really don't receive a very positive image in the community quite often.

We're seen as babysitters, we're seen as we're never seen as educators or as teachers.

Providers can't just increase prices in order to expand or to build new programs because parents can't afford to pay anymore.

Child care has grown twice.

The cost for child care has grown twice as fast as the overall inflation since the 90s.

Right now, the federal government is saying that for child care to be considered affordable, it should be 7% of a family's income.

So the average cost for center-based for one infant in Pennell County is 10,000.

For that to be 7% of a family's income, someone in Pennell County would need to make 151,000.

The average here in Eloy is 60,000.

So you can see parents are paying far more than what is considered affordable for child care in Pennell County.

So we have to do something to be able to bring down the cost of child care for families, but at the same time be able to increase the wages and the employment benefits for the workforce in order to make it a career that people will want to come to so that we can increase the slots that we have.

So this is what we would like to see.

A strong and thriving network of family friend and neighbor care because we know there's always going to be those families that that's going to be the choice they want is for the children to be at home.

But we want to support those that are receiving those services as well with additional support and materials and education so that they can give those children that high quality early education as well.

We want to expand access to the regulated family child care homes.

Those will be the quickest and the easiest to get up and running, as well as being able to provide that 24-7 care.

They're more flexible and able to provide that round-the-clock care.

Increase the capacity, that's the hours and spaces of any of the current or private centers that we have here.

We know that it's mainly Head Start, so possibly working with them to seeing if someone could come into their facilities and maybe provide wraparound care, do a before and after Head Start program so that they can have more of a child care option.

Community investments in child care centers.

So how can we work together to you know create some funding sources, find some funding sources, work together to write grants to get funding?

Um, but how can we work together to find the additional funds we need for child care?

And then how can we become that single location for families?

Pennell Early Childhood Coalition has a website.

We really hope that that Pinnell Early Childhood.com will become that one stop shop for everything early childhood in Pinnell County.

So if a family has a question, they can go there.

If a child care worker has a question, they can go there and find all the options because right now we send them to so many different websites and so many different locations to get support that I'm amazed that the persistence they have to even track down the support that's available to them.

Um and we're just here to kind of support and to be thought partners, be at the table to kind of help move the conversation forward and to keep it going.

Um you have mine and Katrina's information, and we're here to answer any questions you may have.

Thank you so much.

Well, thank you guys both, and they both sound like wonderful organizations.

You know, early childhood learning is so important because that shapes the individual for life.

It re it really does.

And child care or the lack thereof affects many more than just the child and the parent.

It affects the business, and it affects it is a whole trickle-down effect to that.

So thank you for all that you guys are doing.

Anyone on my left have any questions or anything they would like to add?

Yes, well, first, thank you guys for coming, and thank you for uh bringing us um up to date on this issue.

Uh a couple questions.

First, you said there are six DS certified child care facilities.

Uh DHS licensed.

So Department of Health Service Services licensed.

Okay, and is there a push to try to get more of those?

Or is there a limited per county, a limit per state?

No, there is no limit.

So uh Department of Health Services would love to license more programs.

Uh DES, Department of Economics Services would love to contract to provide um subsidies for more programs.

Um it's just really being able to find the locations, find people to run them, find people to staff them because of all the issues that we talked about.

Um my next question is what oh sorry.

And you have had recent changes within the last six months, you've lost ABC and one two three.

They closed here in Eloy, and you've recently lost your preschool program in your school district, too.

So that's why we we're really excited to come just kind of bring this to light because yeah, you're gonna have some families that are are gonna be hurting now more than you already had.

And my second question is what are the options for like um swing shift and night shift parents that are working?

Are there or are there options here in Pinell County or in Evoy?

Um the the home care providers, so the two family child care providers could be.

Um I don't know for sure if they're providing uh 24-7 care or not.

Um usually that's when a lot of the family friend and neighbor care comes in.

Um so if they have a neighbor, if they have a family member who doesn't work evenings, doesn't work that third shift, then the kids spend the night with them.

And I just want to plug first things first really fast.

They have an excellent resource guide.

You didn't bring any Katrina?

I will get some from you.

I will and I will get one for each one of the council members and maybe get some to put in our lobby here and stuff.

But it it is probably the best resource guide Pennell County has available for any services that are needed.

So thank you for that as well.

Thank you.

And I'll just say it is on Pennell Early Childhood.com.

There's an electronic version if anybody would like to couple questions just for what's the qualifications for someone who wants to open a location?

And then what's the qualifications to be a teacher?

I wish they were more, honestly.

Um to open a center, uh, you have to be eligible to be a director, and that means that you have I think it's a year, a year experience working in a child care program, and you pass your fingerprint clearance card and you know your background check.

You pass your background check and you have first aid and CPR, and that's pretty much it.

Um what follow-up is done?

If somebody opens a center and passes, is there a follow-up six months, three months, see how they really are living up to what they're supposed to be doing?

Yes, so there are annual inspections for DHS licensing, and then any time that there's a complaint from a community member, then they'll come out within 48 hours to check on the complaint.

But then there is that annual inspection.

They get kitchen inspections, they get fire inspections, they get, you know, because they're doing all of those things as well.

So there's constantly people coming in to check for the health and safety.

Um and then DHS licensing will come in and do a little bit of checking for quality as well.

Quality first is one of the programs that would come in if they were a quality first program to check for that quality.

And then there's other um accreditation programs that they could go through to check for quality as well, but those are all uh voluntary if they choose.

And then with the backlog, uh with such a big backlog, how do you select which uh children to get the apply which ones don't, or I mean, is there some I I could think uh I'm just thinking here out loud.

Somebody's working uh four hours a day versus somebody's working eight hours a day, needs are different there, and is there's some kind of process you kind of use to select who who gets in.

So every um child care program is an individual business, um, and they're all for profit businesses mostly.

Um so it would be up to that business owner how they decided to do it.

Typically, it's first come, first serve, and full-time only because they know they can get a full full-time program.

Um, so they very rarely offer part-time hours, especially the younger you are infant and toddlers.

You can very rarely find any part-time opportunities for them.

Uh-huh.

Well, and uh, I'm one to agree, yeah.

The pay should be higher for the individuals working in that industry.

It really should.

Because that's the only way you're gonna attract people and open more places.

So well, thank you again, guys.

Thank you for making the presentation.

You did fantastic.

And thank you for giving us something to think about.

Thank you.

I don't know.

And that brings us to item number six reports and announcements.

And you know you may have some stuff to say.

On Wednesday, the 18th, city staff and I met with our partners from ED4 to talk about emergency preparedness and the future power needs for the city.

I'm happy to report they are committed to expanding the Milligan substation and will help to ensure we're ready to support future growth in Eloy.

Always good to see forward thinking from our utility partners.

And we also talked about summer preparedness, and I left there feeling very comfortable with uh what those guys had.

I really did.

On Saturday, the 21st, we held the Eloy Talks event right here in City Hall.

It was well attended and very informative.

The event is part of the lead up to our general plan update, and I will let the city manager share more details on that.

But I would like to say a big shout out to Dan and his crew and everybody that pitched in.

You guys did a fantastic job.

It was very engaging, and I got nothing but positive results at the reports at the end of that.

Finally, that same evening, we wrapped up the season of with our last Eloy Cruise night.

The weather was great, the turnout was solid, the food and vendors looked pretty happy because they actually they did pretty good that night.

All in all, it was a nice way to spend the summer evening here in Eloy, just sitting out in the park in a nice breezy night, just being, you know, community was a wonderful thing.

Yeah.

So council members, any announcements.

So um I intended a couple of events as uh a member of the Eloy City Council.

First, uh, I was invited by Rena Reigns to sit at the Penell Partnership Table at the Florence Businesswoman's um annual dinner.

They had a speaker by the name of Laura Suarez.

Laura Suarez is a program director for uh women's business center in Phoenix, but she goes all over, she gave a wonderful presentation about the opportunities that they have available to help people start up businesses to help them get business loans to help them work.

They could set up a child care center.

Uh they would help them also with that.

They actually do take them step by step, hold their hand and guide them through the entire process.

So um I got her card.

I would like to pass it down to the the assistant city manager to share with uh the Eloy Chamber.

I think she'd be an excellent speaker to come down and speak to the chamber um at a meeting or even just to speak to a group of people that want to start businesses here in Eloy.

So I'll pass that down.

And then I did not attend the Eloy talks because I was invited by uh Sister Rosie Coyle to attend the Juneteenth town hall.

And I um I had already accepted the invitation, so I felt obligated to go to that instead of the the Eloy talks, but I have to tell you it was an amazing day.

There was so much they had I want to say about six panels, um a panel of youth that were so inspiring that talked about what what we really things that really need to be addressed for youth.

Mental health was a was a reoccurring um theme in all the panels.

They had a panel on civic engagement, which um I was able to uh talk and and visit with former mayor Byron Jackson who was a member of that panel, as well as Cascran City Council member Anthony Edwards and Vice Mayor Henry Wade from the City of Maricopa.

Uh Lisa Fitzgibbons, uh mayor of Cascran was also there, and um Patrick Mel Melvin, who is the former um chief of police in uh Maricopa.

Um there was also an entire um panel on how to start a business again, how how to be able to get a loan, how to be able to find the resources you need.

Um they had every resource available on that panel from an attorney that will help you write up and handle all of your business uh dealings as well as uh um mayor uh or uh vice mayor uh Wade's wife who has a similar business as the one that at the Phoenix Women's meeting.

Um they had somebody who uh is a business manager and will help you write up a business plan, and they are all uh working out of either Maricopa or Cassagrand.

So those resources are available and they're available here to us and stuff.

And then of course they had uh a wonderful dinner.

Um really cute.

They had the original dinner that they had at the original Juneteenth celebration, which was chicken, catfish, fried cabbage, macaroni and cheese, and cornbread.

It was absolutely delicious.

So it was a wonderful event.

I'm happy I went.

I'm sorry I missed the Eloy talks.

Um, but it was a wonderful event, and it was great to have Eloy represented by former mayor um former mayor Byron Jackson as well as myself.

So that's it for me.

Thank you, Councilwoman.

Anyone on my writing?

Okay.

Thank you.

Oh, Dan, go ahead, sir.

These are announcements, I guess, clarifications.

Um back in May.

Uh we had a uh discussion item relative to uh reserving the third Monday of the month for uh potential, I'll use the word potential work items.

And so we voted on that night, I thought, and agreed at a uh the council meeting uh to reserve or look at the third Monday.

Um June came and we didn't do it.

And so I understand there's some confusion now of whether we can reserve that third night, whether it has to be an ordinance or the intent was to say, okay, let's just as council members kind of hold that third Monday open, and then if something comes up, we need to have a work session or somebody request one, we do it uh by announcement that Monday.

So I'm confused that we did it in May, and it seems like uh here we are coming up on the first of July, and nothing's been done on it.

And I guess that disturbs me a little bit.

And the other thing is uh we're all busy.

I know I've been extremely busy the last couple months, but uh I'd like to say block certain times of the counteralt.

That uh I know we may have a work session if we don't have it, that's fine, but at least if something comes up, uh I've blocked it out.

But I'd like to have some clarification on that.

The second thing I'm gonna bring up is uh I'm struggling trying to find meeting minutes.

I've been on council for a lot of years, and uh some of you know I have uh every on my computer, I have every meeting in the last nine years I've been to every agenda and every work session on my computer, and so I have the minutes to every one of those, and so I find our city website very difficult to find information sometimes.

I know it was on council meetings, so I actually go into my uh computer and go back and look at previous agendas and see what was discussed.

Look at the next meeting to see what the approved minutes were and what the discussion so forth.

But I've noticed in the last month or last couple of meetings, those are not being published as part of the next month's agenda.

Uh I noticed that they are published, but they go out immediately after uh our meeting.

So normally if we have our meeting tonight, they'd be published tomorrow.

But my concern is who approves those agenda items or who approves those uh minutes because there has been issues in the past that uh there's been some issue taken with some warning, some maybe uh people who were here that made uh some comments were not taken correctly in the translating, but uh anyway, I'd like to know uh why we start pulling the minutes away from approval as part of the packet.

Normally they show up on the consent agenda, but they haven't recently.

So just some clarification of why that's happening because uh do I have to go in now and download the agenda and I'm having trouble with that.

Okay, mayor.

Councilmember Schneider, thank you for your comment.

Um, so one of the things that we have is Civic Plus, and we have a new module which is minutes, and so we're actually learning and formatting that so we can just actually upload them as I'm typing.

I need to get a quieter keyboard, otherwise I might disturb you.

But as far as the other minutes, there is a bit of bit of a delay.

I've had quite a few meetings and I've been working on a lot of stuff, so I will work on getting those minutes on a uh timely manner.

However, if you have any questions or if there's any concerns or corrections, please let me know beforehand so that they can be addressed.

Yeah, I ran into this looking for the minutes of uh the April 29th or 28th meeting, and I couldn't find them.

And I went normally I would go to the next meeting in May, and they'd be there, you know, for approval, and of course they were not, and so that that's what brought this up.

And I started looking at I see is some of the previous minutes are published, but they're the day after our meeting, and just curious of what's the process now.

So, usually what I do is I type up the minutes, and they're pretty raw, if you will, first, and then I have to go through them and review them.

And I haven't had a chance to review the April 28th minutes, so that I feel comfortable enough to bring it forward to council, but I'll make that a priority.

How far back are we?

April 28th.

So we haven't had any since April 28th.

You had uh for the special session for the budget, the one in May.

So you have the uh two in May, the regular session, but all of the work sessions and all the special sessions have been completed.

So it's just the regular meeting minutes, which that particular one for April 28th was rather long.

Yeah, but they would be in the next month's consent agenda normally.

Normally, okay.

Okay, now let's address the other one you had.

The third Monday meetings.

I met with uh vice mayor just today about this.

And I think we're just gonna do this on a as needed basis, with if we can do it like two weeks out at least, you'll be able to have notice.

Everybody has family lives, personalized, everybody's doing something.

So I think two weeks out would be good enough notice to put that out, and then we could put the public notice out, and you guys would get an email right after the mayor vice mayor meeting if there's a need for such a work session.

So correct me here, so that was if we would have a work session that month, it would be on the third Monday.

Okay.

Yeah, but that's the day we all uh we all pretty much agreed on it'll be a third money if we target that.

Right.

Okay.

Anybody of you anything?

Okay.

So let's go to city manager announcements.

Thank you, Mayor.

Vice Mayor members of council, just a couple of things on my docket.

Just a couple of things on my docket.

Uh first up is if you recall a little while back, I sent an email notifying everyone that there had been some fake bills, invoices going around in the county, town of Florence was hit, Pennell County was hit.

Well, we got hit.

So it just came to our attention today after three customers notified us of these fraudulent emails.

So we they're going out.

We're the next victim of this scam that's circulating throughout the county.

Uh, we're doing everything we can internally to adjust and mitigate that issue.

We are putting out notices on social media, the website, um, as well.

Yeah, the police website too, the city main one, just to let people know that these are out there.

If they look weird, please call us.

And they do.

If you look at the email, uh, it's quite lengthy.

It's not an email that we would typically send out.

And then, as any of these cases, these invoices are poorly done.

So, uh, for those listening and that are out there in front of you, those that may reach out to council members going, why am I getting a $10,000 invoice?

You probably aren't.

And please don't click on any links on that.

Uh reach out to the community services department.

Uh, the finance department has also been notified, so Brian and his team will be aware of that.

Should anybody try to call and make an online payment of so such.

But it stinks.

It it's uh it's coming around.

These folks are really hitting everybody, and it's just it's just creating a mess.

But we'll get behind it as best as we can, get the word out, and hopefully, folks will steer clear of these fraudulent scams and get with us to find out what they actually owe, if any.

So just want to let you know I did send out a communication to everybody as well.

So please take a moment to look at that email and again just let us know if you have any questions that you need help with, or if there are anybody that reaches out to you asking questions.

We're here to help.

Uh moving on, we've got our 4th of July event this Friday.

So come on down for some really great fireworks from our community services department.

Start uh at noon to five, free swim at the Aquatics Center, and then the celebration on Main Street Park will start at six o'clock and run to eight o'clock.

So we'll have water sides, games, food, music, vendors, and some giveaways.

And of course, fireworks.

Can't have that without fireworks.

So come on down for that.

Uh then we'll also have on Saturday our movies under the stars, 7 30, Jones Park.

It's gonna be hot.

So if you come, bring some water, bring shade.

We'll do our best to keep people cool there and keep them entertained.

Um, as the mayor mentioned, we did the Elay Talks event Saturday.

Highly successful event.

We had over 50 attendees there, so we're really excited for that.

We plan for about a hundred and but getting 50 is it was it was a massive turn on, especially for Ely.

We haven't seen that type of turnout in a long time.

Uh, really thankful for Dan and his effort with the Logan Simpson team that we have contracted to help manage our general plan.

And of course, Paul's team came in at last minute and helped us organize and get everything set up to make it look like it looked.

Uh, the speaker Peter Kagayama was excellent.

He's a world-renowned uh world renowned author.

He's written several books.

Um, I have two of them.

I got them to sign them.

That was kind of nerding out with that.

That urbanist stuff just gets gets my blood flowing.

He does uh for the love of cities and love where you live.

But what was really fascinating about Peter is he really talks about the placemaking and what makes what makes the place you live so special and why you should cherish it and why you should hold dear to the values and the people as we heard from our ladies, you know, today.

I wrote it down uh community town, family town, and and take care of each other town.

It was great, and it just resonated from what we were talking about on Saturday.

Uh, two really cool uh uh little programs came out of that event.

We did uh broke out into groups and we did t-shirts.

So these groups uh put together what a t-shirt would look like for Eloy.

So that was kind of neat seeing that, and then the other breakouts, huh?

Did we take pictures?

Yes, lots of pictures are coming from Logan Simpson.

And of course, some of us cheated and used chat GPT.

Well, we came up with some really cool t-shirts, Vice Mayor Tarango down there.

Oh, I I'm talking about me.

We uh my group did it as well, so it was a great t-shirt design.

But um again, it's just it was a it was a phenomenal event, highly successful in terms of what we've seen in the past.

So it's really great to see folks come out and supporting Eloy and really getting behind the the next iteration of what we're gonna be and what this community is gonna look like in the future.

So really happy about that.

Um and keep it up because in July we've got additional planned uh public appearances.

We've our public meetings.

We're gonna have them on July 30th, 31st, and August 2nd.

So we'll have uh community input meeting at City Hall, then we'll move to the Toltec Senior Center and we'll wrap up that community input at Ropes and Ranch.

And again, this is just gather that input.

Everybody's thinking, but looking forward to more folks coming out to these events.

So uh that covers that.

And last on my list for tonight is just remember that Thursday we have our special meeting to approve the budget, and that's at five o'clock here in city council chambers.

So look forward to getting that moving and beginning our new fiscal year on July 1.

That's Brian's new year.

5 30.

Oh, I'm sorry, 5 30.

5 30, mark your calendars.

Thank you, Brian.

Appreciate that.

That's all I have, Mayor.

Vice Mayor members of council, appreciate your time.

Thank you, David.

That was very informative.

Okay, now we're going to move on to consent agenda item number seven.

All items listed with an asterisk are considered to be routine matters and will be enacted by one motion and one roll call vote of the council.

There will be no separate discussion.

These items, unless a council member so requests in which that item will be removed from the consent agenda and considered in its normal sequence in the agenda.

At this time, I am going to strike item G.

We're going to remove item G from your agendas from the consent agenda.

So I'm looking for a motion for items A through F.

So move.

Go ahead, sir.

I had some questions about items uh C and D.

If if we could temporarily Okay, we could we can remove C.

Okay, so I'll look for a motion to re to approve item A, B, E, and F.

I will amend my motion for that.

Do I have the second second?

Roll call, Madam Clerk.

Councilmember Garcia.

Yes.

Councilmember Galindo?

Yes.

Councilmember Vadraska?

Yes.

Councilmember Curtis.

Yes.

Vice Mayor Tarango.

Yes.

Councilmember Schneider.

Yes.

Mayor Sutton.

Yes.

Thank you.

Okay.

For item C, Mr.

Vodraska.

Thank you, Mayor.

Um.

Thank you, Paul.

I uh and these are just general questions.

Um the item number C, purchase the and installation of the two fabric shades structures at Jones Park and Treckle Park.

Um and first of all, it's a great project.

It there's a great need there for that.

There's a lot of uh activity going on.

And my question was is there any foresight as to what we might be doing to protect that investment once it's installed?

I mean, kids being kids, we know at some parks that there has been some vandalism done.

And um just wondering if somebody called climbs up on top of this uh fabric, you know, is it gonna rip?

Um that type of foresight, anything.

Uh mayor, council member Vedraska.

Uh in relation to climbing up the the actual post to get to the fabric is pretty difficult based on how they're built.

Um, just normal uh maintenance issues.

We do have a warranty that comes along with this, uh 10-year warranty that's prorated.

Uh, but as far as uh vandalism things, we can always look into additional lighting in the park areas to help deter any vandalism that's there, but nothing beyond that at this moment.

And then um just to confirm um the vendor miracle, they're a uh plate power division.

Is that correct?

That is correct.

Okay, and source well is who we have the contract with.

Yes, source well is the uh purchasing cooperative that will be making the purchase from.

Okay.

Um I don't know if you're gonna know this, but maybe I I know our uh general counsel is online, Steven.

Um within there, there was the section on liability, and just wondering if there is a failure of the equipment that results in an injury or death or something, god forbid.

Um is the city liable?

Because there was something in section 51.

Um that uh there it was it almost sounded like that the vendor was going to be excluded from any liability, and I just need a clarification on that.

I would defer to the city attorney.

Good evening, May.

Member.

There's two types of warranty contract.

One is basically the quality of the workmanship.

And the other warranty issues involving basically one installed if it's been installed properly and whether or not there's proper installation, which could be a warranty issue, and I think that's what we may try to exclude.

Arizona has a recreational use community statute that basically provides that unless the city is grossly negligent in operation of recreational facilities that there would not be any type of liability.

Obviously, if there is a structural issue involved, it's going to be picked up by the contractor during the installation, and/or city staff looking at the installation, which would dictate the payment.

I'm not aware of any case law in Arizona where this type of issue has come up with regard to a shade structure injuring someone.

Most of the ones where their injuries are basically misuse of property, such as uh likely the one that I've run across is that um there were goalposts for soccer fields where kids were hanging on them, and they managed to dislodge one striking an individual and cause the harm.

And in that case, basically Arizona law kicked in and basically said that because it was a recreational area that we did have liability.

Obviously, this is something that we would monitor carefully, and if we find that there's going to be a misuse of the equipment out there, then obviously it's going to be brought to the attention of city staff who in turn will speak to administrative staff and then look for the attorney to determine what courses of action we should do in this matter.

But I don't feel uncomfortable with passing this matter.

I believe that we have adequate protection for this, and we also provide liability insurance that we pay for every year to Amazon municipal list.

Thank you, Mr.

Goomber.

I have no other questions.

Thank you, Councilmember.

I don't like the fact that a lot of this was paid for through grant.

That also makes me feel very good.

Okay, at this time I'm looking for a motion to I had a question on item D.

I'm gonna approve C first.

Oh okay.

Okay.

At this time looking for a motion to approve item C on the consent agenda.

Mayor, I'll make a motion to approve item C.

Do I have a second?

Second?

Yes.

Roll call, Madam Clerk.

Councilmember Curtis.

Yes.

Vice Mayor Tarango?

Yes.

Councilmember Schneider.

Yes.

Councilmember Garcia.

Yes.

Councilmember Galindo?

Yes.

Councilmember Vadraska?

Yes.

Mayor Sutton.

Yes.

Thank you.

Okay.

Discussion on item D.

Go ahead, sir.

Okay, Matt.

Thank you.

Um and these are easy questions.

Okay.

Um Eloy Public Safety Wers are expected to uh participate in this program or event.

Mr.

Mayor, Councilmember, we actually have quite a few of our staff that participate in this, usually about 75 to 80 percent participate in this.

Okay.

And in the past, umyees, how are they fared within this uh event?

I I haven't seen any kind of uh publication after the event or anything like that.

We've done well.

Um we we've had some that have placed in the top five or six um competitions.

Uh usually what we see is is after the event is concluded, Penal County will send out an email with with all of the results.

So we'll certainly share that with the with the the city manager to to share with with you all as well.

Okay, thank you.

Okay, at this time I'm looking for a motion to approve item D from the consent agenda.

Mayor, I make a motion that we approve item D from the consent agenda.

Do I have a second?

Second.

Madam Clerk.

Councilmember Vondraska.

Yes.

Councilmember Curtis.

Yes.

Vice Mayor Tarango?

Yes.

Councilmember Schneider.

Yes.

Councilmember Garcia?

Yes.

Councilmember Galindo.

Yes.

Mayor Sutton.

Yes.

Thank you very much.

Thank you, sir.

All right.

Let's move on to Section 8.

Item A.

Consideration and possible approval of the Eloy Housing Authority's recommended recommended fair market value of 165,000 for the sale of the Eloy Housing Authority Administration Building to the City of Eloy and authorization for city staff to proceed with negotiations of the property acquisition until the Eloy Housing Authority Board Commission is approved and presets this purchase price agreement for the City Council consideration and approval at later date.

Mr.

Mallowitz.

Thank you, Mayor.

For those newer members of City Council, this has been an ongoing for about well, it precedes my time into the previous city manager Harvey Krause.

When uh the the city has it's probably been seven, eight years now that the city has tried to acquire the administration building uh from the Eloy Housing Authority.

We had one iteration back in 2019-20, which failed, and then we came back to the table with it in late 2022, early 23 upon the dissolution of the EHA services and the program transfers to Penel County Housing Authority.

During that time, the city of Ely has always been adamant with the EHA that you know we we would very much like to have that administration building.

It was one of the part of the plan when the police department was built.

You'll notice that the painting and everything kind of ties in together.

So there's always been a grander plan for tying that whole complex into police functions and having a better community service uh needs fulfilled in that, particularly for the police department.

So we've done one, two at least two appraisals as part of the HUD process for the disposal of this property.

This is the most recent one.

It is a little antiquated.

The last uh appraisal that you see in your council report was done back in November of 2024.

But uh, according to HUD representatives, it is still good.

So they still accepted it.

It is part of the litany of items that you have to check box as part of the PIH disposal and disposition of HUD assets.

So this is just uh another check box, but we need this formal approval from the city that will be reflected in as council member Snyder noted meeting minutes later that city council approves or denies this in order for this process to move forward through the HUD um PIH disposal that I mentioned earlier.

Um the purchase price as as mentioned in the COAC is 165 as assessed value of November of 2024, and HUD has accepted that as an assessed value as well.

So this is it it's a really good price.

It was lower from the previous appraisal that we had done.

So I you know, happy with it.

It we have the monies appropriated.

We've had had the monies appropriated since we've been working at this for the last couple years.

Um Brian has made sure that those monies are available.

This would be upon the presentation of the purchase sale agreement.

If council agrees to move forward with this, um, it would be a cash sale.

So at that point, there'd be no escrow and none of the other issues.

Brian would just simply issue a check to HUD, and then we would work through the title company to acquire all the real estate asset at that point in our in our name.

Uh, here to answer any questions related to this purchase sale agreement.

And um the chairman of the board of three for the Eloy Housing Authority, former mayor Michael Powell, is here to answer any questions as well.

He has been heavily involved with this process for only he knows how long he's been part of this.

Uh, he'd be happy to, I'm sure, to answer any questions of where the EHA stands as well.

Thank you, sir.

Well, am I right to have any questions, comments, concerns?

I guess I just have and they I can't tell for sure if I saw it, but does it have a good roof?

And have there been any water leaks over the years, as in the old building that used to be across the street?

Because some of our employees are going to be inhabiting this building.

Thank you.

Mayor, vice mayor, council members.

It's different on the side.

Um, question to the mayor before we answer your question is are you gonna be in the dunk tank on the fourth of July?

Absolutely not.

Okay.

Not committed, are you?

Not committed yet.

Um, that's a very good question.

I believe we've had um extensive work done on the building already to get rid of asbestos and things like that over the years.

I think it's unoccupied as of right now.

Um, but a lot of the issues that were there have been taken care of, should have been taken care of over the uh the time that we've been in negotiations with Eloy Housing Authority and the City of Eloy.

So Vice Mayor.

Uh sorry, Mayor.

Go ahead, sir.

And to additionally on that, on top of the purchase price, the police department has put aside money to the CIP to make necessary improvements to the building.

So, as um as Mike pointed out, there was a big asbestos black mold issue.

So the inside of the building is mostly a shell at this point.

There's a lot of drywall that was ripped out.

Uh that did affect substantially the the pricing because when we originally had it appraised, all that was in place.

But upon inspection of black mold and asbestos, it was the and that was all remediated uh when the EHA was there and it was paid for through EHA funds, not city funds.

And that was done a couple years ago as well, too.

So uh thank you guys all for the great report.

Most of the questions have already been answered that I had on my list.

The only thing I the only question that I have less to ask is um, so what is what is going to be going forward?

The role of the Eloy Housing Authority board.

Are you gonna dismantle?

Are you gonna continue to meet through in another area?

Is or is it all gonna go to Penel County now?

Thank you for that question, mayor uh council members.

Um we have been planning over a period of time to dismantle the Eloy Housing Authority.

Um has taken longer than expected.

So each year, I had a board of I think five at the time, and now it's down to three.

So uh upon the request of the uh higher ups, we don't need to, we're almost done, so we don't need to add any more because we do always have a quorum.

Uh so uh once everything gets taken care of legally on both sides, we'll be dismantling the whole Eloy Housing Authority, and actually I don't know if I can say too much, but yes, that's the that's what the plan is.

And we keep having to extend extend uh the term for each year, and so our next one is extended to 2026.

So that's just so we can continue the process of everything that that I inherited and moving forward and to uh release some of the assets that Eloy Housing Authority has as well, too.

So this is the extension to just manage any grant money you still have available or assets or well.

This one is only taking care of the um the building.

Um I think next the housing authority board.

Yeah, once everything has been completed and approved by housing authority up in um federal level, we'll no longer have any type of uh board at all.

So all Eloy voucher programs and stuff will go through Panel House.

Everything has already been submitted to Panaw County for the voucher programs, has been like that for about a year, I guess, maybe two years.

But yes, everything has uh Panaw County has the resources to take care of all that.

Okay, thank you.

Absolutely.

So I take it the vote we're gonna take is a vote to approve to have city staff proceed with the negotiations of the property.

All right.

So at this time I'm looking for a motion to approve item A in number Mayor.

Sir do we need to read this by title only?

No.

Okay, I'll make a motion to approve item A.

Madam Clerk, can I have a roll call, please?

Councilmember Garcia?

Yes.

Councilmember Galindo.

Yes.

Councilmember Vadraska?

Yes, Councilmember Curtis.

Yes.

Vice Mayor Toringo.

Yes.

Councilmember Schneider.

Yes.

Mayor Sutton.

Yes.

Okay, that moves us to item B, adoption of resolution number 251618, adopting the consolidated rate and fee schedule for the city of Eloy with an effective date of August 1st, 2025.

Mr.

Wright.

Good evening, Mr.

Mayor, members of the council.

Um, yes, before you tonight is resolution uh 251618 adopting the consolidate and fee schedule for fiscal year 25-26.

Um, we have followed the ARS ARS guidelines 9-499 uh.15.

So we have posted it out there uh for the public uh intent to raise uh to for the modification of these rates.

We followed the state guidelines, so now we're uh after the adoption of this resolution, it will become effective August 1st.

Um these are the rates and fees uh were brought before council during the budget process with it.

Um so this majority of the changes noted in the consolidated fee schedule were in the sanitation area.

So okay.

Any questions or comments from council?

You do?

Well, I have one question about the business license moving up.

You say it's going up from ten dollars to twenty dollars.

But I had a question about like what is the difference between a business license for a year and a business license.

Um for half a year, and I mean they just all seem so repetitious of each other.

And and does this include like food trucks and um businesses that are temporary like that?

So, Mr.

Mayor, uh Councilman Woman Glindo, the business license for a year is $75.

The one that's going from $10 to $20, that's when we have like the fiestas, those are the one-day, two-day events.

So they'll come in, they don't have to go through the whole process of the application for that.

So on those special events, those are $20 instead of $10 now.

On a half a year, we prorate it after July first.

So if from July 1st through the end of the year, it's gonna be $37.50.

That's what we prorated.

So for a full year, it's $75.

If it's food trucks, any vendor that comes in, they go through, they submit an application, it goes through the department's review.

If everything lines up, they they're in the issue of business license.

But the one you're referring to, the $10 that's going up to $20 is for the special events that we have.

And so um so food trucks have to have a business.

I know they have to be licensed through Penau County as well because and the health department, do they all along with that, they also have to have a business license for the city of Eloy to operate in the city of Eloy?

If they are coming in on a normal basis and they're not part of the special event that's being put on, like the fiestas or the food trucks, if they come in and they want to come continuously do business, they come through, they pay the $75, they have to then park on the city right away, which you take main street, and it's from I can't remember the streets, it's down to end main street from into Main Street to the to the frontier.

So it's kind of like the difference between cruise night and the fiestas.

Okay.

Um, and I I totally understand that a lot of these increases are due because of you know the new vendor, but I I worry about people reading this and understand that that we did choose the um the most affordable vendor.

It it sounds like everything, all these increases are being uh blamed on the fact that that we gave the contract to waste management, that they would have increased anyway.

Am I correct?

Had we chose another vendor as well, because they were all kind of about the same price, uh Mr.

Mayor Councilman Glindo.

I mean, the rates because the vendor that uh was that was chosen waste management, the rates went up based upon that their contract price for residential commercial roll-offs, whatever they are.

So it could have they probably would have gone up if there's other bids that were qualifying, but that was the most qualified bid, the lowest, and that's what we ended up.

So the way that is structured, yes, it went up based upon the contract price with waste management.

And then some of these didn't have they said there was no fee.

Is that why they're blank?

Because there was no fee in 2425, and now there is a gonna be a fee in 2526.

Correct.

Yes, if there was not a fee indicated because they we didn't have a specific um fee from the previous contractor, now we have one.

We noted that that's a fee change, and we noted that's a new fee.

So do we know an average about how much the utility fees will be increasing in 2526?

No, not offhand now.

Yeah, it just I thought you know it was gonna be minimal in it, and after reading this, it sounds like it's gonna be a lot.

Uh more than I was expecting.

Um then I had just a question for you, Brian, about calculating these fees, because like I noticed some of them are like you know, $13.86.

It's like couldn't round it up to $14 or is there like a formula that you have to use?

Is there a specific one you're uh referencing?

Because no, I just noticed that some of them were like a flat rate, like it's going up from $20, $10 to $20, or from $20 to $35.

And then there's some that are like um additional bulk collection is going from $75 or going down from $75 to $60.50.

Yes, on on when it comes to sanitation for the garbage.

Um when it comes to the um residential that there's a landfill fee, which is nine dollars and eighty-five cents that's added uh on top of the bill for the as a sanitation administration fee.

When it comes to the roll offs, if they charge us fifty dollars, we we increase it ten percent.

So you if it's fifty dollars, we're gonna charge fifty-five because for the main really for the landfill operation on that.

It's it's ten percent flat on every rate.

So is it consistent?

Yes, it's consistent that the commercial and roll-offs are all or the commercial or the roll-offs and other services are all 10%.

Residential and commercial, it's nine dollars and eighty-five cents.

So it is consistent.

It's consistent.

It just but we don't round up or down on on fees.

We just whatever that 10% is, it's 10%, whatever that nine dollars and eighty-five cents is.

We make it consistent.

In correct correct me if I'm wrong.

I think like to your point too, some of the fees in the community development department have cents on them, they're not rounded up to whole dollars.

I think that's in relation to uh our approval of the international building code.

So we got to go by that industry standard and their fees, and that's what we incorporate into here.

So if those fees are changed or updated, then we'll I'm looking at Dan just to make sure he's shaking his head yes.

Um, but yeah, that again, an industry standard publication that the council has adopted as its rate and fees and purposes of doing business.

So we'll use that in that case too.

Welcome.

Thank you.

And this might be more for Matt than Brian, but and I was gonna wait till we went to the next item, but since it's on here, I just had a few questions about um.

I mean, it was explained to me we're taking off the fuel adjustment fee, right?

And that's going away.

That's gone.

Okay, because I want I know it says it in there, but I wanted to make sure we weren't increasing two to five percent plus gonna pop up with a new fuel adjustment charge next year.

Yeah, we had it in last year's rate, and it's it's zero now, so no, it's not part of the the rate calculation.

So we kind of break even if you look at what we've been paying for the the fuel adjustment fee over the last two years with this increase.

Um I just had a couple questions on, or be it for me knowing about trash cans, um, but um other service charges.

Um the lock bar wheel.

What is that?

And again, this is on both of them, so I I didn't want to ignore it on this one and go to the next one.

Mr.

Mayor Madam Vice Mayor, this is something that uh when we were going back through the billing with our previous uh service provider, they were charging us for a lock bar for wheels for those businesses to secure those their front load containers.

Uh we realized that we were being charged for it.

There is no way for us to recoup those costs, so we added those into this year so that we can we can pass those costs on to the commercial establishments that have those.

Okay, because it looks like it's on the residential side, so I just wanted to be sure.

That's just for the commercial side.

Okay, so that would mean the box liners are also for commercial.

Well, the box liners is for uh commercial or residential, whoever gets the roll off.

That's just something that doesn't fit in neatly anywhere else.

We just had to put it in those other services.

So that has to do with roll-offs, though.

Okay, and then also sorry, the overage.

So it's on both, but I'll address it on this.

The overage of on one thing it explains it's sixty dollars and fifty cents, but then on the next one, it says that it there's a it's a violation charge.

So what is right?

Basically, if if if the whoever has the roll-off container, if they overload it, then it takes more addition, it takes more a bigger truck, and basically it's you can only load it up a certain amount, and that's that's the penalty for for over that.

As soon as you said roll off, that explained it then.

Um the way it was in there, it kind of made me feel it was regarding residential trash cans, and I couldn't figure out how I would have an overage when I had my I mean I know because I'm ordering an additional.

Right, but I just wanted to clarify that.

I'm like, how am I gonna have an overage?

I tried to push it down as hard as I can, but that's just for the roll off.

I'm sorry, thank you, Matt, very much for clarifying that.

I appreciate it.

I won't have to ask you that on the next item.

Okay do I hear a motion to read by title adoption of resolution number 25 dash one six one eight so moved do I have a second second all in favor say aye aye any opposed say nay motion carries Madam Clerk resolution number 251618 a resolution of the mayor and council of the city of Eloy Penal County Arizona adopting the consolidated rate and fee schedule within an effective date of August 1st 2025.

Do I have a motion to approve the resolution 25 dash one six one eight as presented Mr.

Mayor so moved.

Do I have a second second roll call please madam clerk councilmember Schneider yes Councilmember Garcia.

Yes Councilmember Galindo Yes Councilmember Vadraska yes council member Curtis yes Vice Mayor Tarango yes mayor Sutton Yes okay item C adoption of resolution number two five dash one six one nine amending resolution number one five one three five three implementing new sanitation rates rate components and fees and increasing charges for the city of Eloy sanitation system with an effective date of August 1 2025 yes uh miss mayor members of the council uh this is uh the last step with the sanitation um rates um it's a dot uh we're looking for approval of resolution 2516 19 uh this amends the old resolution which was back in uh resolution 15 1353 um just a little background you know council did approve on march 24th the uh contract with waste management at that time um right after that we did post uh in uh the notice of intent on april 1st which would give us a 60 day that's fall in the arizona revised statute for um nine four four nine nine dot fifteen which tells us that we have if we're assessing a new fee or levy we have to post 60 days in advance so when we did that uh we we met the that guideline we did post a second uh notice in the paper for notice intent to increase sanitation rates at that time when we did the first one the second one i created a um just like we did on the consolidated and fee schedule its own uh report for the sanitation increase which posted the same rates that were in the consolidating rate rate and fee schedule uh so bringing forth tonight adopting the resolution um that uh that will meet the guidelines of that then we have to wait we have to can't implement it right away as emergency so it'd be August 1st for the the billing so from even though waste management is collecting the rates now the rates will stay the same of what they are what it is from all of June and July they'll be implemented on August 1 and at that and at that time Mr.

Mayor you'll people will see on the utility bills it will just say garbage there won't be two things on there it'll just be one rate that will say garbage on it.

So that uh right adjust the fuel adjustment fee on there will be taken off the utility bills.

Thank you sir any questions or comments on my left go ahead then Brian what I know uh I've run this I guess a couple last couple years when we've had the uh fuel charge increase uh we've got people that uh don't pay the bill directly they have an automatic deposit or automatic withdrawal out of the checking account or have a third party that actually does the bill paying and I find that people even though we've send these noses out aren't paying attention is are we doing anything between now and August 1st just to remind people that hey if you're having a a uh bank withdrawal you need to notify the bank or change it as or you have a third party taking care of some of these uh bills for you notify them when the date is anything like that being done to kind of nudge them because you know people see things and they just forget about it.

We'll we'll send something out with this bill coming out, which will be the uh they don't see the bill, it'll be the one in July that will go out.

They don't see the bill.

Well, the the only the way we'll end up doing is we'll put it in the bill that also the people that go on express bill pay.

We send an email that's with an email attachment for that to notify them.

Please make those changes.

So I mean, we've we did that last month when we did it, uh, probably about three weeks ago.

Please be aware, you know, waste management is when we did the uh little F uh the brochure that went out as a trifold that just came out in utility bills.

We sent that also out as a PDF attachment through the express bill page to every account that has it.

Part of that, the message we said that you know, please be aware we'll do that again as we come up.

You know, in this one, we'll put a message out, especially on the online part, because we can do that attachment, but we'll also do an a physical attachment in the July bills that go out here at the end of the month in or in July.

I think it'll help.

I just some things have gone on here recently with the garbage of people like picking up the cans, is like how many times you have to tell them, but they're still out there to picked up so I think you can do the facility, that would be nice.

We'll do something very similar, like what we did with the uh with uh water and wastewater rates.

It's just little public information brochure, like a public announcement with it.

Quick question thought is there uh councilmember Schneider.

Do you have any way to push a communication message to the HOA if we put together something and send it to you?

Well, I don't know if some of the communities may have HOAs.

I know ropes does.

I think uh Graham Valley probably has an HOA and maybe uh telling them and they may have distribution lists.

Obviously, uh maybe well, you know, we have the uh electronic bulletin boards, and maybe put something out there.

Uh we have one of them from the uh creation department and uh one out the senior center.

Maybe put something up there or uh be aware rates are changing or something.

But I I don't know, it just seems like people are traveling that during the summer, and uh they just uh they ignore some of these things, and all of a sudden nobody told me, but they did.

They just didn't see it.

I've just got a quick comment on this um for you, Dan.

I think it mostly what you're talking about affects robes and ranch residents because all the other people, the water and the trash is a bill together, so the water fluctuates every month, so you have to check what it is.

You can't just have it on like a continuing payment.

And most people who do that are on the express bill pay, which um was mentioned, so that it it it just adjusts for it every month.

But I think in your situation, because your water is is not you know it's separate, it just affects ropes, and so I think what David's saying about getting um a message out to rope and residents, then that would work, and you won't have to worry about the other communities.

That's very true because it's a fixed fixed rate for robes in every month, and that's why yeah, it's good point, sir.

Thank you.

Okay, anybody else anything?

Good.

Do I hear a motion to read by title adoption of resolution number 251619?

So moved.

Do I have a second?

Second.

All in favor say aye.

Any opposed say nay.

Motion carries, madam clerk.

Resolution number 251619.

A resolution of the city council of Eloy, Arizona, amending resolution number one five one three five three, implementing new sanitation rates, rate components, and fees, and increasing charges for the city of Eloy sanitation system.

Do I have a motion to approve resolution number two five-1619 as presented?

Ms.

Mayor, make a motion to approve as read.

Do I have a second?

Second.

Roll call, please.

Councilmember Schneider.

Yes.

Councilmember Garcia.

Yes.

Councilmember Galindo?

Yes.

Councilmember Vadraska.

Yes.

Councilmember Curtis?

Yes.

Vice Mayor Tarango.

Yes.

Mayor Sutton.

Yes.

Yes.

Okay.

We're not going to do an executive session, so I would really like to thank everybody who came out tonight and our presenters were really great.

Thank you so much for enlightening us.

That was really good.

So with that.

Before you close the meeting?

Go ahead, sir.

I just want some clarification on Thursday's meeting.

Is it at five or five thirty?

Because Civic Clerk has five.

Yeah, that's what I was looking at too.

It is five thirty.

It is five thirty.

Yes.

No, five thirty.

Yes.

Okay, do I have motion to adjourn?

So moved.

All in favor, say aye.

Aye.

Good night, everybody.