Oh, we hear some more.

I heard that all the time.

Yeah, like you have to really like the border.

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, these show the idea is the first time.

We all have different clouds.

Right.

Oh, there's a lot of things.

Yeah, like you know, I have to watch it.

Yeah, they also use that.

Yeah, let's guess two.

Okay.

And the time is 6 p.m.

May have a roll call, please.

Commissioner Lopez is excused.

Commissioner Whitman.

Here.

Commissioner Marlenbido.

Here.

Commissioner Gunn.

Here.

Commissioner Faseto.

Here.

Commissioner Crawford.

Vice Chair Tolson.

Here.

And Chairman Paulson.

Present.

Thank thank you very much.

I am pledged elections to the fly of the United States of America.

And is it remote or nation under God?

Individual liberty and justice call.

Okay, thank you.

Uh moving on to item four, public appearances.

Are there anyone in the audience here who would like to address the commission on items that are not on tonight's agenda?

Do we have a uh name on there?

No, she's from one of the cases.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

All right, so we have no miscellaneous public appearances.

Okay, thank you very much.

Item number five, a motion to approve the minutes of the Party and Zoning Commission.

That was held on November 19th, 2025.

Do I have a motion to approve?

Got a question.

Okay.

I have a question or quite a few questions on the minutes from first.

Can I go ahead and do that?

If you have questions, yes.

So uh item Roman number four, public appearances.

Commissioner Whitman got up and uh said he wanted to discuss with it something with his peers, but it doesn't say what it was.

So I'm thinking that just kind of piques a person's interest about what did he talk about.

So either I would think we should say what he discussed or else remove that item.

Uh then on item six, roaming number six.

The um this was the general was it the general plan amendment, a major major general plan amendment.

I I thought that was we were just we just heard that, but we didn't because down at that towards the bottom there it says that we uh uh seconded the motion to approve the major general plan amendment, but I don't think we could do that at that particular meeting.

We're doing that maybe tonight, I don't know.

But um paragraph eight, it says it's a non-action.

Okay, so then why would we approve it if it's non-action?

Chair Chair of the Commission of the question at hand, and I looked at that as well.

Uh I cannot remember myself if we did take a minute motion.

Okay, so that would be struck.

Yeah, yeah, I think that's that'd be the best move there.

So I don't think we made any took any action on that one.

And then that was item number six.

That would be Roman numeral six about the last paragraph or last paragraph where it says uh motion and approve to uh motion to approve the major general plan amendment.

We didn't do that.

We heard it and discussed it.

And then one last thing.

One last thing was item Roman numeral seven a on the second page.

We did well, we're discussing the let's see.

What was it the oh this was the one on uh the clubhouse the um entertainment one and uh on clubhouse drive and we did pass the motion, but we passed it with staff conditions and we did discuss that and we thought that was important to include that.

So please make a note of that.

So I don't and how do you want to dispose of item four the uh uh public appearances?

Chair, I would recommend that you just uh as when you make your motion to make a motion to approve the amendments as amended with the note for the public appearance of Commissioner Whitman, and we'll add those those minutes to it with the minutes of the subject and then uh a motion ten minutes to correct as stated by uh vice chair um okay.

Okay.

So I guess we already have a motion.

I'll second the motion with those items mentioned as uh Mr.

Simer mentioned that uh items.

Yes, all right.

So I'll make a motion that we approve the minutes with item four public appearances uh clarifying what was discussed.

Item six uh that we did not take any action on the uh general plan amendment we discussed only and with item with the uh item on clubhouse drive that we approved it with staff conditions.

That's the motion.

Okay, I have a motion is stated you have a second, all second.

Okay, on a motion and then a second.

Mayor call, please.

Commissioner Whitman?

Yes, Commissioner Nellandiegle?

Yes, Commissioner Gowen, yes, commissioner Fasetto.

Yes, Commissioner Crawford, yes, commissioner I mean Vice Chair Telson, yes, and Chairman Paulson.

Uh okay, the motion carries unanimously.

Thank you.

Okay, item number six.

This is the consent agenda, and I'll just sort of kind of follow what's going on here.

All items listed in the consent agenda may be enacted by one motion and one roll call vote of the Planning Zoning Commission.

Unless the commission member or member of the public so requests a special discussion be held on any item, that item will be removed from the consent agenda and considered in its normal sequence on the agenda.

Okay.

I hope.

Okay.

Uh the commission shall conduct the public hearing and possibly take action on the following.

Okay, so these are gonna be all uh rolled together.

So I'm gonna open the public hearing and uh close it and then we'll vote on it.

Okay, so item number one.

That's case number PP 2025-001.

That's the Sunshine Industrial Park.

It's a request by the Rose Law Group, BC on behalf of WSI Development Sub-LP at L and Wellton Sunshine Industrial LP for a 26-lot subdivision containing approximately 148.36 acres with white industrial run zoning.

Okay.

Just go ahead.

Okay.

Just clarification on that.

Um what we're doing here is we're just approving this because they're not changing the zoning or anything.

We're just we're approving it the subdivision, the subdividing of it.

Okay.

And then I noted in the the uh COA, the action request that it use the describe one of the proper one of the adjacent properties as executive health care.

I think that was isn't that ex um the exceptional care yes, that would be exceptional care.

Okay, so uh right with that then I'd make those notations.

And then with the second item, the sky dive Arizona, which I would do on this is uh into the agenda yet.

Right, okay.

Okay, hold on.

Okay, case number uh number two, case number I Z PAD 2025-003.

That's NZ Skydive.

It's a request by Jessica Sark C of upfront planning and entitlements LLC as the applicant on behalf of LLSS NLC, Lawrence E and Lillian A.

Hill, and drop in motel and I V Park LLC to re zone approximately 76 uh yeah to re zone and approximately 76 acre site located approximately 2,215 feet north of the northeast uh northeast corner of North Tunne Road in West Shed Road from light industrial item one in general industrial I2 to light industrial Industrial now two with a planned area development overlay or PAD.

Okay, so what are the two items?

Do we have any uh members of the public who are here to address any of those?

Either the developers, the people who are making a request, or just general input.

Okay.

Doesn't look like it.

Okay, my fellow commissioners.

Input, please.

Yeah, that should, I believe on two, that would be instead of Arizona Sky Dive, that's Skydive Arizona.

And on the uh staff report that was on the web for the fiscal impact.

It was omitted.

There was uh so I don't know whether we actually have it somewhere, but it didn't show up on the website.

As it pertains to the fiscal impact, staff does not anticipate any fiscal impact from this application.

Okay, any other questions or comments input at this point from uh the commission.

Okay, and no one from the uh public.

Okay.

All right, I'm gonna close the public hearing then.

Thank you very much for your questions and input.

So this being a consent agenda item, I would like uh motion to approve the consent agenda item as we discussed.

I'll make a motion to approve.

Second.

Do we have a second?

Okay, I've got a motion.

We have a second.

Commissioner Whitman.

Yes.

Commissioner Nollin Fiegel.

Yes.

Commissioner Gunn.

Aye.

Commissioner Facetto.

Yes.

Commissioner Crawford.

Aye.

Vice Chair Tolson.

Yes.

And Chairman Paulson.

Aye.

Okay, thank you.

The uh motion be approved unanimously.

All right, item number seven.

This is new business, possible discussion and action on the following.

Okay.

Item A, general plan update, mapping the future outreach summary.

I was just told uh just a short while ago that this item needs to be continued until next uh planning and zoning because of scheduling issues.

So we're gonna continue that.

Item B.

We're gonna conduct a public hearing and make a recommendation to the US City Council on the following.

This is case number GPA 2024-005 and RZ 2024-004.

This is known as E310.

Uh this is a request by Julie Vermilion and Cole of Co.

and Van Lu consultants on behalf of TES Farms for a major major general plan amendment from community commercial and light industrial to mixed use, consisting of approximately 310 acres located approximately 1,237 feet east of the northeast corner of North Sun June Road and West Shed Road, and a request to rezone an approximately 310 acre site located at the same place, approximately 1,237 feet east of the northeast corner of Sun Lin Boulevard and West Shed Road from single family residential I112 to light industrial I1 and multifamily residential R3.

I'd like to open public hearing on this item, please.

Would you please introduce yourself and let us know uh what you're gonna say?

All right, so my name is Julie Vermillion with CBL Consultants, located at 4550 North 12th Street in Phoenix.

Um with me today is Rome Green and representative of the developer Augie Gomez.

Thank you.

Much appreciated.

Thank you so much for hearing our case this evening.

So, as you've mentioned, this is for E1310, a rezoning and major general plan amendment.

I know this is a very similar presentation to what you saw last time, so I'll be brief.

Here's our vicinity map, as you mentioned.

We're south of the I-10 and east of the northeast corner of Sunlingen and Shed, approximately 310 acres.

We had our neighborhood meeting, some posting, yelled notification to everyone within the required 300 feet of the site.

We had no opposition.

So here's that existing general plan.

You can see that it's currently a patchwork of community commercial and light industrial.

We'd like to do our cohesive overall general plan designation.

The community commercial and light industrial, we believe would be more appropriate for mixed use.

That's general industrial, so that's a higher intensity industrial development.

To the east, we have community commercial, and then to the south we have residential.

So we believe mixed use would better uh be a better transition for these uses in the area.

So the existing zoning on the site is R112.

That's a single family residential zoning district requiring a minimum of 12,000 square foot acre lots or square foot minimum lots.

So that is a rather large lot size for this area, especially considering the frontage on the I-10, the adjacent commercial, and then the planned industrial to the northeast.

We believe a more appropriate zoning would be that I-1 light industrial with a R3 multiple family residential on that southwest corner.

Um that residential will transition to the uh planned residential to the south of the site.

Uh additionally, we know that there is a zoning update planned to the west, and then we have that existing commercial development to the northwest.

So I think we believe that this would be a great land use solution for the property.

Uh the zoning would adhere to the city's uh conventional design standards and the permitted uses that you've noted for each of these zoning districts in the ordinance.

We are proposing other modifications to those.

So here's the land plan.

You can see the adjacent land is primarily undeveloped.

Um there's that existing commercial development to the northwest.

Here's our preliminary sewer layout.

Uh, this layer is just a conceptual sketch uh to give us an idea of where we're going in the future.

But you can see that's your connection from the northeast, ours or northwest.

Here's the conceptual water layout.

We can see that connection from the west.

And then as part of this proposal, we would anticipate um development impact fees that would go towards parts and recreation, police and fire and road improvements for the city.

And we anticipate additional benefits such as job creation.

Uh, we'd be establishing a zoning for those uh light industrial uses, business opportunities, um, and additional uses that will support employment and economic growth in the area.

And then those development impact fees, we're anticipating approximately two million towards public safety, approximately three million towards parks, and about 3.5 million towards roadway improvements based on the current development impact fee schedule, and of course that's subject to adjustment in the future.

So that's it.

Uh I kept it short.

Uh if you have any questions, I am available.

Okay, do we have any questions?

Okay.

Oh yes, I do.

So going back to the road improvements.

Um there's currently no shed road out.

Well, there's nothing that looks like shed road out there right now.

I don't even see the dirt road.

Maybe I missed it.

Um I presume at least some of that is going to go towards putting in Shed Road out there.

Is that correct?

Yes, so as part of this uh major general plan amendment application and this rezon, um we did have um a circulation plan in place where we would be improving uh portion of shed road uh and a commercial collector access to the site.

Okay.

And then, and this is maybe getting beyond the scope of your project, but it's a concern, and that is that uh I did see a lot of another traffic or saw the traffic study and the cons the uh road conditions that are well, actually, we've already got them out there, not to mention the future development that's coming online.

And uh that I guess I want to just bring this up only from the standpoint, maybe staff or can give me some ideas, what's gonna happen to that two-lane bridge over I-10 that uh already is probably at capacity.

We got industrial going on up north of uh I-10, and of course, if this happens, uh we're gonna put more vehicles on the road and with uh love's station there, it's already pretty congested.

So is there some way that we can mitigate or somehow form a improvement district to get that bridge widened and improved?

That's the question, I guess.

Thank you.

Okay, but first answers.

Uh I've been on the zone commission for more than a decade, and we've talked about that for nearly a decade.

So it's it's been it's been out there and you can see what's happened with it.

Okay, so anyway, that's just my uh opinion.

Chair members of the commission, that's a that's an excellent question.

Um the nice thing about that the traffic impact study that they did uh does address it not specific to their project, but addresses some off site situations.

Now we currently have a capital improvement project that is funded that will be doing modifications to the intersection and south of the I-10 to approximately uh Mountain View Drive, which is kind of hard to see it on the map, but it's about halfway between the Lubs and um what we refer to as well Wilcox Peak Avenue.

So we will be in as part of that project, we will be improving the intersections going south of that area.

The interchange in itself is not currently at capacity, the interchange bridge itself.

Um we are, and the mayor may be able to help me with this.

We are asking to have the interchanges looked at with the Sun Corridor.

Yeah, I can uh I can speak to that at this point in time through the Sun Corridor myself.

I have petitioned ADOT to perform a study of the whole TI.

That's like the first step of getting that role and is is to study because what I brought to ADOT's attention, this has nothing to do with your project, actually.

It that whole TI is as cars are coming down the 10 doing the speed limit of about 95 miles an hour, as they get to Sunday and June Road, the traffic is actually backed up into the travel lane, so very close to it at this point, and it's becoming a more and more dangerous situation daily.

So I brought this to the attention of ADOT, and I've been speaking monthly with them along with some corridor.

And the first step is getting the study done.

And these studies go for millions of dollars.

It's amazing.

But we are at that first step right now.

This is something we are not looking over to your point.

Okay, thank you for that input.

Okay, anyone else?

Any more questions for one more?

One more.

Uh, with the staff conditions, the conditions of approval.

Um I scan through them, and it looks like with regarding the mixed use that the city still has a um as they go in there with improvements.

This the city still gets to look at what is being put in, and if they see something that's gonna be a problem, they can do something about it at the time.

Okay, I got I got a nod from Mr.

Simer, so thank you.

Okay, you member input questions, comments, concerns.

Okay, okay, thank you, too.

I appreciate your input uh thank you.

Okay.

Is anyone else from the public uh care to address the commission on this topic?

Okay, does that like it?

Any of my fellow commissioners have any other input at this time.

Doesn't look like it, so I'm gonna close the public hearing.

Okay, thank you very much for your input appreciation and make an editorial comment.

This looks like a good thing for the city, so great.

All right, I'm looking for um a motion of some sort here, hopefully to approve.

On my commotion approval as it is.

I'll second, but with uh staff and including the staff conditions.

Okay, so that's uh kind of understood, I guess, right?

Just make it sure.

Okay.

All right.

I just want to make sure I'll get a two good motions.

Okay.

Okay.

All right.

So I have a motion and then uh second.

Can you have a roll call, please?

Commissioner Whitman.

Yes.

Commissioner Nolan Bigo.

Yes.

Commissioner Dunn.

Aye.

Commissioner Facetto.

Yes.

Commissioner Crawford.

Aye.

Vice Chair Tolson.

Aye.

Chairman Paulson.

Aye.

Okay, we have a unanimous vote to approve.

Thank you very much.

Appreciate your time.

Okay.

Number eight.

Informational items.

Why don't you learn commission members and staff will update the public on relevant events and activities who are in attendance since the last meeting, which was last month, and any other future events, activities and potential agenda items.

These items are for information only, and no action will be taken.

Okay.

Boss, you want to try?

I'll try and not stumble through it.

First of all, I would like to touch space with the commission about the public comments that were received last month at the last hearing as it pertains to JW Waters improvements north of Roberson Ranch.

We did investigate the construction activity that was going on.

The existing sewer plan held had has had and is permitted.

That's being modified.

The water tank expansion have not been permitted.

So when I went off to say I was a little bit shocked by the by the fact that they hadn't moved uh forward with that project.

Um we have issued a stop work order on that.

Um they have as of last week submitted plans for permits.

And I believe those plans came out of review earlier today.

So they will be moving forward through the permitting process.

Um can't speak for JW, but they did we're relying on their contractors to obtain proper permits.

And um they brought to the their attention, they got on it right away and addressed the issue.

So we are moving forward with potential permits on that.

Uh firstly that coming next month sometime if they uh update their plans properly.

So on that issue that gets back to the public comments that were asked at that time.

Uh next month, as we're going into the agenda, we will have the general plan update.

We're moving very quickly on getting a draft plan together.

Um we won't get too much into it, but we will be following up with a potential uh general plan study session uh as we move into the final uh six day draft of that plan.

Furthermore, next month of those of us that are on the commission that uh help represent the air part or your port, we will be providing an update on the proposed CIP projects for the airport and where we're at on those as part of the um your guys' role as appearing an advisory to the council so you can have an opportunity to see where we're at and what we're gonna be proposing at a council uh in that role.

Um we will again have a meeting next month.

Uh right now I only have one case on the agenda, but I'm mainly focusing on uh doing updates as it is to fulfill your other roles.

So on that I'll turn it back over to you, Chair.

Okay, thank you for that input.

That was interesting about the uh water tanks and stuff.

And I can say you are amazed.

I'm not amazed by any of that kind of stuff, but anyway.

Okay, uh we have for us we have Mayor's K.

Go for it, sir.

All right.

This is really for the edification of the commission here to bring to your attention that about two and a half years ago.

So I first saw I first sat out here.

I was a council member at that time.

And right at that podium presented to us came loves gas station, and those people from Loves came in and they sold their project to this commission.

This commission voted yes.

Well, I'm happy to report tomorrow.

We are having the ribbon cutting at that facility on Toltec Road.

And that is the impact that you people have on this commission to this community.

Is that how things get done?

And we thank the previous commissioners who voted for yes and the current commissioners as well.

And I'm very happy to report.

We're going to go to that ribbon cutting tomorrow.

It's a fantastic looking facility.

We drove by it the other night.

Are they ready to go there, Mr.

Simon?

Okay, Mr.

Saima, thank you very much.

Chairman members of the commission, I plan to sign the temporary certificate of occupancy tomorrow morning.

When I'm out there, it's been a it's been a race.

They have paid for their TCO fees, and there are just some odds and ends that they needed to do, like parking lot lights and get the construction equipment off of it so that it's in a safe uh area.

When I went out there today, there's a few odds and ends that needed to be touched up, but they will be operating under a temporary uh certificate of occupancy.

The truck wash will not be done, that'll be sectioned off, and as will the RV, because we don't have running water to the RV yet.

But okay.

So but otherwise, the rest of the facility.

Uh literally in the hour I was there, I went from almost no stock in the convenience store to like two-thirds of the way stocked.

Uh so it's it will be up and running.

I don't know if they'll be able to open at seven, uh, but they are planning to work around the clock tonight to make sure that they meet that deadline.

Well, to that point, the three of us went by that last night around six o'clock as we came from a meeting up in Scottsdale.

They were doing landscaping by flashlight.

They really were.

So I I just wanted to bring that to this group's attention that the decisions you make here you can't take lightly because they are big impacts to this community.

So moving forward.

On 1015, this PNZ, you guys okay to CUP 2025-006.

That was for Poblano Solar for 80 acres.

When that came up to council, it was denied.

Council felt that they had gone over the requisite percentage, and we denied it, but don't let that's the way the process goes.

And we thank you for your hard work on that.

But then in 1110, council approved a one-year extension for case PP 2022-009E2.

That was for the Vista di Pocasio.

That's the 365 residents that was uh submitted and brought to us by Christina Dawn.

You guys okay that uh when it got to council, we gave them a one-year extension with a hard stop at one year.

One year it all falls down.

We're not doing another one.

So I just want to let you guys know how that went.

And that's about it.

And thank you so much.

Back to you, Mr.

Chairman.

Okay, thank you.

Um, just a note from the chair here.

One of the other things that I was really happy to see recently is back about a year or so, maybe maybe 18 months, we approve a uh exceptional care facility.

And well, they just made just made that happen like rubbing a magic lamp, and it's up and running, and I've had uh comments from some of my uh fellow residents out there at Robson Ranch, and they had a couple people who are really happy with it.

So, you know, sometimes the work we do is rather mundane, but other times I really get stuff done, and that's I'm really happy about that.

So that's just my pontificating.

Okay, another input from anybody here, any commission members?

Chairman, I add one thing that I put out uh probably selectively chosen to, and that is the Kids Holar Project has started construction.

This is 660 acre facility.

Uh 200 million dollars worth of improvements.

It is fully under construction right now, and it will be going at light speed.

They're hoping to be tied into the network by the end of June.

So, thank you.

That's important as well.

It's amazing how fast people can work when they want something.

Okay, any other anything else?

Okay, thank you very much.

I think we move on to it nine.

We have a motion to adjourn.

Do I have a motion to adjourn?

I'll make a motion to adjourn.

Do I have a second?

I second it.

Have a motion.

I have a second.

I don't think we need a roll call.

All in favor, please signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Aye.

All opposed.

Thank you very much.

This meeting is here by adjourned.

And if anybody wants to go across the street, the Grinch is about to get a