2:08Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Eloy City Council Work Session.
2:15Hey, I'm feet back feeding here.
2:18Today is March sixteenth.
2:19The time is approximately five thirty PM.
2:21Madam Cloak may have a roll call, please.
2:24Councilmember Valdraska.
2:28Councilmember Curtis.
2:30Vice Minister Mingle excused.
2:33Councilmember Schneider.
2:35Councilmember Garcia?
2:38Councilmember Galindo?
2:42And as far as public comment, I don't see anybody here for public comment.
2:47So we're going to move right all to discussion items of presentation and discussion on the Bataglia Road sidewalk project.
2:55Who is the first one up cookie?
3:03Um Mayor, Vice Mayor, Council.
3:05Tonight we would like to provide a brief overview and have a discussion regarding the proposed sidewalk project along Bataglia Road from eleven mile corner road to Sunshine Boulevard.
3:18The project would construct a new sidewalk along the South Side shoulder of the Taglia Road, improving pedestrian safety and connectivity within the corridor while supporting future transportation and infrastructure improvement improvements in the area.
5:00Final design is programmed in in 2026 at the total amount of 267,977 of transportation alternative funding with a local match requirement of $16,198.
5:16Construction funding is programmed in 2028 for $2,240,510 of transportation alternative funding with a local ranch requirement of $135,428.
5:32The scope of the project is with Cookie said to install $5,310 linear feet.
5:39That's just a little over one mile, a five-foot wide sidewalk on the south side of Ataglia Road, from 11 mile corner road to Sun Sunshine Boulevard.
5:50The project would also include a vertical curb and gutter, 1688 accessible sidewalk ramps, and 10 sidewalk sculptor sculptors which is drainage and concrete.
6:02The purpose of this project was to provide a pedestrian-friendly pathway to connect unprivileged and economically disadvantaged neighborhoods with parks, schools, and municipal buildings.
6:15The benefits to the community included safer pedestrian paths for older citizens who may want to get out and walk and exercise, provide safer access for students who may walk or bike to school to any of the four schools within the area, provide safe pedestrian-friendly access paths for citizens to make to connect to an access parks and recreational facilities within the city of Eloy.
6:43The project included the reducing of the lane with width of the eastbound travel lane, which led to which will lead to decreases in speed vehicles, which would not adversely impact drainage patterns and pathways along the project.
7:03Currently there are no sidewalks on Patagley Road between 2,100 to 2,600 AADT average daily traffic with most recent 85th percentile speeds at 43 miles per hour.
7:20Speed limit is 25 miles per hour from Curl Street to 11 mile corner road and 35 miles per hour between Curral Street and Sunshine Boulevard.
7:30Speed bumps or pumps were not practical because Battaglia Road is one of the primary emergency uh response routes for the city.
7:40So at this time I'll turn it over to uh Sean and he will provide you an overview of the design of the project.
7:55Let's see if I can get this to work.
8:02Do you have this on the screen in front of you?
8:05Um I'll try not to be redundant, but this project was awarded to Horox.
8:10Um we are the consultant designer, I'm the consultant project manager for this.
8:14It's run through the ADOT project development on call.
8:19Their numbering system, it's 0000 PNELY T053901C.
8:27Federal aid ELYO 209T.
8:31Is it not coming through?
8:35Um so the existing condition on this is roughly about 35 feet of existing paved road.
8:41There's two travel lanes, one eastbound, one westbound, and approximately an eight-foot shoulder across the north side of the road.
8:50Um along the south side of the road, a existing drainage channel parallels the road with at each crossing there is um drainage pipes that flow.
9:02Uh the cars use the existing dirt behind the curb on the north side to park.
9:07That looks like this.
9:08This is a picture looking west and a picture looking east.
9:12So in the existing condition, there is a dedicated parking area.
9:17The majority of cars from what we saw in Google Earth and a field walk and from what we heard from the city actually used the dirt.
9:26In the existing right-away, there is technically three parcels here where there is not road dedicated right-away.
9:36So what you see in Cyan, the road exists in the road easement.
9:41That's 40 foot from the section line.
9:43So there the rest of the road is actually in right away.
9:50So we took a snippet of the design that you see on the screen.
10:00North is up, and along the south side, you see that there's a sidewalk design that wraps around each of the cross streets with a crosswalk ramp, and there's a dedicated, will be a dedicated crosswalk there.
10:18So when we got this project, we took it through the scoping.
10:21We developed three alternatives, proposed those to the city.
10:25This one was elected, so we moved forward with it.
10:28Um did a 60% design that was used to procure the construction funding grant, and then we've moved it to 95%.
10:35We have not formally made that 95% smiddle.
10:39Project got put on hold.
10:40Now it's in their discussion right now.
10:43Um it is environmentally cleared.
10:45So it that the cleanance package has been completed.
10:49Um a little nature on this job is that uh there's significant amount of drainage on the crossroads.
10:56So each of these crossroads was is very detailed so that they can be constructed and not pond or flood.
11:03The typical section that's proposed is on your screen.
11:07Uh this is looking to the east.
11:09I don't know why I said west.
11:13Um along the north side, which is the last left of the typical section, there is an existing curb and gutter.
11:20So what this design has done is it shifts the lanes to the north to the left side of the screen.
11:27It eliminates that eight foot of parking, and then it puts in a curb and gutter and sidewalk along the south side of the road.
11:36So the benefits of this job.
11:39Um a thing that was proposed to us that was quite significant, and that's what we heard from the city is that attaining the right-of-way could be a deal breaker on this project.
11:48So this project stays within the road easement.
11:52If you put a sidewalk on the north side of the north curb and gutter, you have about three feet.
11:58So a five-foot sidewalk would be two foot out of the road easement, which would then require dedicating the right-of-way or some sort of action.
12:07So this design does not require that.
12:10This design also has no significant channel impacts.
12:13Um, an alternative we looked at was keeping the what road in the existing width without narrowing it and adding a sidewalk on the south side.
12:22That does then narrow the training channel and also makes it very difficult to not impact the head walls of the culverts at the crossroads.
12:32So this our current design does not touch the pipe culverts that does not extend the head walls, it wraps around them.
12:39So the one of the key um considerations other than right-away was cost, and eliminating all those pipe extensions is a rather significant amount of cost.
12:49Then this does not have any utility relocations along the north side.
12:53There are um communication right pedestals and fire hydrants that the sidewalk would either have to wrap around or get relocated.
13:01We have mixed mix of both that would be have to be addressed on a case-by-case basis.
13:06Then there are no impacts to driveways along the north side.
13:10Um, there are I believe two driveways.
13:13This in this project ties into it.
13:17Technically is an impact, but the impact is minimal.
13:20Um, so we do not have to affect a significant amount of driveways on the north side, which would be if it was the sidewalk was flipped.
13:28And then it does maintain the existing parking patterns.
13:32It allows for that dirt to still be used, which from what we heard from the city was something that was favorable.
13:40Um that's it on our design, and I'll answer any questions.
13:52You said that it would take away parking, but did you mean on the south side?
13:59Yeah, so technically that that dirt stays, right?
14:04The existing white striped eight-foot shoulder, which would be considered a parking aisle in the existing position, is no longer.
14:11We eliminate that eight feet, we shift the two lanes to the north and just maintain only two lanes of pavement.
14:27Uh what's the legality of those people parking on that dirt?
14:31I mean, is there dirt or is it?
14:34I mean, I don't have a problem with it.
14:35I'm sure there's a legal aspect to it though.
14:38Yeah, and I I can't confidently speak to whose responsibility that would be, but technically, if we have uh right-away in that area, they can't park there.
14:48So probably right now they're not able to park there.
14:51It depends on where their property line ends.
14:53So we'd have to take a look at the maps and see where their property line ends.
14:56If it ends at the curb, then it is their property essentially.
15:00But if it doesn't, if the property line is that gate, then that's where they're limited to park.
15:07I believe the property line for the most part is the fence line.
15:11It's pretty consistent that you can see in the picture.
15:15Because the issue I would have is somebody exiting a vehicle and getting slammed by somebody coming down the street, because now it is an eight-foot buffer between the street and the vehicle.
15:24You know what I'm saying?
15:26I mean, I don't have a problem when I'm talking there, but I just don't want that to be a liability for us.
15:34So I just need clarification from the question that council member Curtis asked was that when I originally saw the plans for this project, the sidewalk was proposed for this, I believe, which was the south side, which was where um the drainage stitch is.
15:57But in looking at these designs, I'm assuming it's the north side, which is where the residentials uh properties are um which one is correct.
16:10So when you say original, what did you see?
16:13Um existing design when this project was given to us.
16:21We created three alternatives.
16:25So what was the original?
16:26The original proposal that I remember seeing, and I raised concerns about was that the sidewalk was going to be on the side where the drainage um ditches are.
16:43And I it and I raised concerns because you know it especially during monsoon, those drainage dish ditches, the water flows really fast through it.
16:55But now that I see this proposal, this proposal seems to be it's on the north side.
17:04It's still where the drainage ditches are.
17:06So the proposed design is on the south side.
17:10When we looked at three different alternatives, one of them was to run a sidewalk on the north side north of the existing curb.
17:17One of them was to run a sidewalk on the south side without narrowing the the existing road.
17:24And the current proposed design is to run it along the south side while running, while narrowing the road.
17:31So what's on the screen now at the typical section?
17:35On the right, there's a four-to-one tie-in slope that's coming off the back of that sidewalk.
17:40So there's a one-foot buffer from the back of the sidewalk plus that four to one tie-in where we are separating the pedestrians from the existing channel.
17:53But yeah, is are there any uh proposals to have some kind of safety or buffer for pedestrians on the side of the drainage ditch?
18:07So at a four-one slope from an ADA perspective and safety perspective, it does not warrant um handrail.
18:15There is some isolated areas at the crossroads where we're wrapping around, and we have maybe 20 feet lengths of guardrail because the in those areas it's steeper than four to one, or it's an actual drop-off.
18:28Um so those areas are protected.
18:31I would say those are singular, not parallel to the entire road.
19:29That's eight feet currently.
19:32So you're moving a center of the road.
19:35Approximately plus or minus footage.
19:55The dirt is roughly eight to ten feet wide.
19:59I'd have to measure it.
20:00I don't know how to talk.
20:14From what we heard in this alternative development process from the city was that this was a consistent practice that existed out there, and there was not a desire to significantly change it.
20:34And I just got a comment.
20:35Can you continue to speak into the mic?
20:37They're saying it's still hard to pick you up.
20:40I feel like I'm hearing myself run clear.
20:46So I I think the design makes sense and everything.
20:50Um I just have the same concern as the mayor, and I think as long as someone looks into it and alleviates our concern, just what is the legalities if someone does make the change, someone opens a door and they get slammed into and run over.
21:06Do we need to put up parking signs or do we need to put a little a little tight, like three foot, you know, line, or what what's what's the implications for safety, basically?
21:17I'd say one thing that would be an implication is this is supposed to be a dedicated parking aisle where they are already supposed to be between the curb and gutter and the white line.
21:27So if they're using that, it would be the same issue in the current existing condition.
21:42Now it's gonna be a new situation.
21:44So we I just think we should check into that before we say good to go.
21:52And I have the same concerns.
22:07And so why are they not using their driveways?
22:10I know that um I live on sunshine, not all houses have driveways on sunshine.
22:17Um, but there's plenty of not a lot, no parking signs along the road.
22:25So people find ways to park their cars inside their yards.
22:32I can't speak to that at all.
22:39I think maybe a suggestion before we even you know we move forward and start the construction is we send out at least one or two notices to each one of these homeowners that are in this area and advising them that this is what we're doing and what impact it may have on them in educating them that yes, you can still continue parking on there.
23:04However, you know, there's the risk because now you have traffic coming in that other eight-foot section.
23:12Um and Councilmember Vedrosca, I'm pretty sure that Irene and Scampo, they already did send out notices, and I um as far as I'm aware, I don't believe we got any feedback on that.
23:23I believe it was a dot that did the A dot did.
23:26They had uh uh outreach to all those folks that live along there.
23:30Yeah, to let them know the design.
23:32And they got no feedback from all the the residents.
23:35And regardless of that too, if you want us to put out a separate notice or do like a town hall or something to try to get more feedback just so they're aware, we can always do that.
23:43That's just above and beyond what's required.
23:49It's just you know, we get to get so many notices and junk mail these days, like they probably didn't even read it, is my guess, you know, or even know what it meant.
23:57So I I would think some form of communication and you know, maybe I haven't taken a look at every house on this road to see if they all have driveway parking.
24:06Seems like most of them do, but it might just be a habit that they're parking there and that it's convenient that there might be the possibility of them being able to park in their driveways instead.
24:16Uh you know, we just have to kind of I think we just need to be aware that we don't want to create a more dangerous situation on this road where we're trying to create a safer situation for the residents.
24:27That as long as we figure that part out, I think it's a great thing.
24:31And I think that's something that that we can um give notices and probably more outreach because this project's still about two years away.
24:39So Cookie, I have a quick question for you.
24:42The the houses that are um on this section of the tagula, do they uh have an alleyway where they put out their trash bins?
24:53No, it all comes up through the front.
24:55It comes up through the front as well.
25:02Yeah, uh thinking down the road a little bit.
25:05In we're putting a sewer line down particular, correct?
25:09Where's the sewer one going to be?
25:14I'll let Jeremy answer that question because he's pretty much on that project there.
25:23So the sewer line is slated to be in the center of the westbound lane is what's proposed right now.
25:33Um and in talking with uh Sun Corridor on the Bataglia sidewalk and uh Bataglia sewer projects, we'd like to see the the sewer line go in prior to any sidewalk to minimize any damage or inputs on the left lane is that lane is changing to the north, correct?
25:55Yeah, and so you put the sewer line in, it means it's not gonna really be in the center of the road.
26:00It's gotta be displaced to look am I correct?
26:04The engineers that we'll be designing it are aware of the the narrowing of the road.
26:09So the existing sewer line that runs down Batagli is on the south side.
26:14So we're trying to, with the depth of that sewer line, keep that distance between the two so it's more constructible.
26:21So it would push the new line further further north.
26:25That will probably get the attention of the people parking there too.
26:35The other the other thing I would uh just throw out, we with our hopes are expecting some growth of residential and Esperanza and further down.
26:47And are we limiting the potential size of this road?
26:51Are we gonna be happy with the size, the total width of the road with uh more pedestrian or more uh residential traffic through the expansion down in the uh I guess closer to sunshine because what we're doing now with the sidewalk and the the road width, we're kind of fixing that road width forever.
27:14So with the uh proposed improvements with the Esperanza they had submitted um some time ago, it did expand Bataglia um more so to the north.
27:27It did not expand it to the south because there's a ditch there and no room to expand.
27:33So they did create uh eastbound right turn lanes to pull into the development um, or I should say westbound and eastbound center turn lanes to allow the the north northern turn limp turn lane.
27:47Um there was sidewalk going on their frontage along the their the north side of the of their property as well, yeah.
28:05That's that's west of sunshine between well the the Esperanza development.
28:10I mean you've seen the roads out there.
28:12So they were addressing the the site that was built 20 years ago um with future phases to to be built later on.
28:21I haven't seen any plans on that come in.
28:27Can we go back to the map that shows where it because it goes from 11 mile to sunshine, right?
28:33So is it where's Esperanza on relation on this map?
28:39Where it is possible, Main Street.
28:40Yeah, so uh the east line of the Esperanza development would be about main street going to the west to where the that church is.
28:52Is there room to do those lanes and everything up in that area?
28:55There for their development plans would be to improve and widen to the north in front of that development itself, and then future phases would would address their needs as well.
29:06So narrow down there.
29:14Just for clarification.
29:16So the Esperanza is where it says Township 7 range.
29:24Yeah, Main Street where it shows the construction sidewalk and the arrow.
29:29Uh Esperanza is almost directly north of that.
29:35Sorry, which map are you looking at?
29:38Should be on your screen.
30:01Yeah, Jeremy, you could also point with your cursor.
30:03Did you guys have your cursor up there?
30:06Can you see the cursor on there?
30:08So this is this is where the Esperanza development is.
30:24Yeah, a portion of them.
30:25And then if you look.
30:28I was gonna say a portion of them.
30:29So Esperanza, when we're looking north, they're gonna be how many acres is that, Jeremy?
30:33Like 300 or something like that?
30:36Um I think the whole development, I think is over 600, but the the unit they're building right now, I think is around a hundred acres.
30:48I'd have to double check on that.
30:50Yeah, so you have that development there north, and then also if you're looking east, if this is you know true true north looking at this map.
30:56If you look east of Sunshine Boulevard, that's also where the Walton project is, Palmia.
31:00So that will also be more um development of that road when they come online as well.
31:10I was just thinking ahead that right now Patacula is pretty much of a through fare if you start all the way down to Arizona City and start heading east, it goes all the way over to 87.
31:22Yeah, I guess it builds a good case, Irene.
31:24Why we need uh housing wood extended so we can take it.
31:30So it's starting to happen.
31:32That's a fight that's well on the way.
31:37As well as 87 in the yeah.
31:53So you guys are good?
31:54Yeah, yeah, I think so.
31:56Does anybody else have anything they'd like to add?
32:00I will make a thank you.
32:02I wasn't going to, but I'm thinking with this patient, I keep thinking about it.
32:05That eight foot may be missed quite a bit.
32:08Because it on a daily basis, it they park on the on the dirt.
32:12Weekends, when they hold any kind of activities there, family functions, birthday parties, but they're parked all down that eight foot lane.
32:18So either way, they're already getting out on the side of traffic as they come through.
32:22Uh I don't think that's gonna make a difference if we cut it out.
32:25It's just gonna be they're losing parking spots for family events.
32:30Yeah, now they have parking like everybody else in the city, one thing in front.
32:36They lose their double parking feature.
32:43You could have no parking between certain hours.
32:46You know, during a day where you see a lot more traffic through there, say no parking and at night, maybe they need a place to park for the night to go out at overnight parking or something.
32:56But I've seen that a lot of places or cities where there's no parking during certain hours.
33:00Yeah, we can look into putting those signs, you know, that say no parking between 7 and 4 p.m.
33:06And then they can park there after, like close to that, because that is gonna be the through road.
33:11So, first of all, city staff.
33:22Well, yeah, go ahead, Matt.
33:24Thanks for trying to do that.
33:25Uh so I just wanted to clarify that with this, the whole purpose of having this study session, this work session tonight really was to get input from Mayor and Council that this is the plan that you want to move forward with.
33:36So I'm seeing head nods that that is yes.
33:39Um, because if we didn't, the impact of it would be we'd essentially have to pay the cost for re-engineering of the project if we wanted to go with a different option.
33:47But hearing that everybody's okay with it, we're gonna move forward with this option.
33:51So okay, all right, good.
33:53That's all I have now.
33:56So city staff, I thank you all for the work you put in.
34:00And I know it's been a lot.
34:03And cookie smiling, yeah, that's good.
34:07And to some other favorite people in the room, some Carta, Irene, everybody.
34:13You guys absolutely rock.
34:14We're looking at what $300,000 worth of $400,000 worth of grants just past month.
34:21And we can't thank you enough from our little city as far as that goes.
34:26And if everybody's done, I will adjourn this meeting.
34:48It's a nice project.
34:54I think we need a lot more sidewalks in this town, and that's a really