0:04But it's really Bob, Bob and Jonathan.
0:07I'm gonna blame that one on y'all.
0:10So we are gonna call to order and kick off this agenda session.
0:14I hope to see you all um afterwards at the town center for the state of a city, state of the city.
0:22Um I first will go through the consent agenda that we'll be hearing next week.
0:27Um and for the reason um forgive me, never mind.
0:34First, we'll approve the February 3rd meeting minutes.
0:37Then we will hear a resolution to a vote on a resolution to approve a budget adjustment on the amount of 46,474 to transfer a tree escrow balance for the planting of mitigation trees in various locations throughout the city.
0:55This is um not out of the ordinary.
0:57We also have John's there.
1:00We also have John Scott here uh from Urban Forestry.
1:03John, if you'd like to go up, I think I believe Miss Turk has questions.
1:10I'm just wondering is is this the total balance of the escrow account or is there so a lot of other money in there uh in the tree escrow account?
1:18It's the total balance of that account.
1:22That's all I was curious about.
1:23John How's the statement?
1:27Oh, I don't uh Minister Jones, Minister Jones, Ms.
1:32How often are these deposits happening?
1:34Are they sporadic based on the agreement with land developers that are agreeing to purchase additional trees for the city?
1:45How often would you say deposits are made?
1:48Um we maybe get like a handful a year of there was for several years we didn't get any best row payments.
1:57Once we do receive them, we have seven years to use that money in the part quadrant from which it came before for a tree planting plan.
2:08Um so with this balance, um, are you able to tell us kind of uh where we're planning to plant trees?
2:16And then I don't know if you had an update on the type of species that we're looking to plant right now in some of those areas.
2:23We have until uh 2030 to use this money.
2:27Um and the the park quadrants that came out of were the there's a little bit that came out of the southeast part quadrant, but the bulk of it came out of the southwest uh park quadrant, which is mostly downtown area and 71 is kind of our dividing line, and then uh Weddington and North.
2:45So is it possible to use some of the um triescrow that comes in if that is downtown to be a part of some of the things that come out of like downtown master plan and as we're doing some of the audits around like accessibility and things if we isolate and see like there's um kind of heat islands or areas like that?
3:08Can we mitigate in some of those areas or do we have more restrictive um places that we typically are putting the trees?
3:14Is it mostly kind of in our parks and other green space where we'd be placing those?
3:19Um the money is just for planting trees or the maintenance of trees or any of that.
3:24Um it generally does need to be in our right-of-ways or on our public properties.
3:28Okay, so it can't it can be amongst all of those different areas.
3:32It's not yeah, absolutely.
3:34And then at this time though, you sound said it through 2030.
3:38So it sounds like the plan would be that this money in these trees would be between 2026 and 2030, that they'd be it's not that they're all gonna happen in 2026.
3:48Okay, all right, thank you.
3:50And then uh John, um when we look at uh where we're planting trees, do you look at like where was this escrow money collected?
4:00Like what area of town did we lose the trees and try to plant in the same area?
4:05Yes, that's that we can.
4:06That's why it's associated with the park quadrant.
4:09Okay, it's tied directly to that park quadrant so that we spend it in the area similar to where it came from.
4:17That brings it, thank you, John.
4:19That brings us to item A3, a resolution to approve the purchase and installation of a 10-ton HVAC system in the amount of 79,797 and 50 cents from elite building solutions for the Yvonne Richardson Community Center pursuant to resolution 265-2-1 and to approve the associated budget adjustment.
4:40This is for the older part of the building, and Alison is here.
4:43I believe uh Minister Jones has a question.
4:45I think either Keith or Allison one whomever can best answer that.
4:52I think I just get confused when we are in the first part of the year and we're making budget adjustments.
4:57How do we not plan for this and how is it not budgeted?
5:00Is YRC part of our budget?
5:02And then how do we think long term of not having budget adjustments this early in the year?
5:08I think well, I want to answer the first part about the budget adjustment.
5:11Then you speak to the YRCC part.
5:13I think that's part of where our language is confusing that it is a budget adjustment, not a budget amendment.
5:18So it doesn't necessarily mean we didn't have it budgeted.
5:21We're just allocating it to something specific.
5:24Um but I I agree that that can be a confusing distinction to remember, Steve.
5:30Yeah, I mean, this is a budgeted item.
5:32We're just moving those funds to the correct project.
5:35That's what we do with uh budget adjustments as well.
5:38Um did I step in the air?
5:42No, I don't think Minister Jones.
5:43Do you have did that answer your question?
5:45No, I had a third we ask you to ask about the YRC.
5:50And then are they our city?
5:51They're a city funded entity that we budget to make these maintenance changes on it on an annual basis.
6:00So we have funds in the YRCC.
6:03It was a YRCC Buddy Hayes project, and it was budgeted, it's just not in the account that needs to be spent from, so it's being moved into a buildings and grounds account rather than contract services.
6:20The mayor might have answered my question, but um, so uh just thinking about that.
6:25We need the bond monies and uh the upgrade to the building, and so it sounds like potentially that this was outside though, really of that project.
6:33It was it looks like it's budgeted separately, I guess, and it wasn't a part of that package.
6:38So we had multiple funding sources for that project.
6:41Um there was the bond project, and we also had funding in our neighborhood YRCC Buddy Hayes project.
6:49Okay, so it's coming from that other money.
6:51Okay, all right, thank you.
6:55Oh, Keith, do you have a oh I was just gonna mention the HVAC unit is for the gymnasium, which is part of the existing facility.
7:05Sorry, it's just a clarification because we redid like the gem floor in the existing building, and that was part of that project, wasn't it?
7:12I'm just trying to understand how that was scoped out.
7:15We just did have the HVAC in the initial project.
7:17Okay, all right, thank you.
7:19Okay, item A4 is a resolution to amend the 2026 adopted budget by reappropriating 187,900.
7:30No, I'm sorry, 187 million nine hundred and ninety-three thousand three hundred and thirty dollars.
7:39Quite different in bonded or ongoing capital projects and outstanding obligations and grant budget items because this is quite large.
7:47Steven, if you could go ahead and speak to it, please.
7:53Good evening, council.
7:54Um, so every year we come forward uh to council with a request to roll forward funding for projects that the city has already committed to but remain uncompleted or outstanding at the end of the year.
8:05By statute, as a reminder, the state of Arkansas doesn't allow for multi-year budgets.
8:10We can't be running multi-year budgets at the same time.
8:13And for that reason, we're required to bring forward all these items to council to add into the new year's budget.
8:20In late 2025, council had approved a 2026 budget in the amount of 273,863,000.
8:29What we're bringing forward here is a request to add a total of 187 million 993,330 for these uncompleted projects.
8:40Um, and as a reminder, these obligations um are already ones that the council has committed to of that total 187.9 million dollars.
8:5021% is for bond projects uh funds that are still being spent from the 2022 and 2024 bonds.
8:5818% is for grants, those are uncompleted grants that the city has accepted.
9:03One percent is for operational obligations, such as purchase orders, contracts, things like that, and 60% of it is for capital improvement projects.
9:13Uh, as I mentioned, these have already previously been approved by council, and now we're bringing them forward with a request to add them into the 2026 budget so that we can continue to use those funds for the projects that they have been committed to.
9:26And as we close out fiscal year 2025, uh we're gonna come back to council for a second time uh on this item in April to basically true up the appropriation for any payments that have been made uh between the time we calculated this and between the time we close out the fiscal year.
9:44So this is something that we do do every year.
9:51Yes, and and you said the 60 percent is capital improvement projects only from 2021 and 2022.
10:00Those can be ongoing capital improvement projects that the city council has funded in previous budgets.
10:05If you recall, there are there are a number of items that we're required to grow to a certain balance before we can make that purchase.
10:13And uh that's generally speaking, um, for instance, uh take the police radios that we recently did.
10:19I mean, that's a significant cash outway, so we tend to save up for a number of years in the CIP until we need those radios, and then we make the purchase.
10:31And I believe I believe you have a new staff member on your team.
10:35Uh thank you very much.
10:36Our new deputy Jennifer Walker has uh joined the team uh effective Monday.
10:44Thank you, Mike, and welcome, Jennifer.
10:46And thank you, Stephen.
10:47I believe Minister Jones has another go ahead.
10:51And I guess my my last question is there a clear delineation in identifying and itemizing what the whole 187 is being allocated to.
11:03You have that is that available for us to see.
11:06Yeah, it's it's uh attached with the item, the the council agenda item.
11:09Uh the last pages detail out what that the full the full amount is.
11:17Um5 is also um in Stephen's department.
11:21It's a resolution to approve the fourth one-year contract with Forvis LLP for auditing services for the 2025 audit in an amount not to exceed 169,756 dollars for an option to renew for up to one additional one-year term.
11:42Which department are you using?
11:45That would be Steve.
11:47Uh, Minister Jones, so that's budgeted citywide.
11:49We allocate that across all funds.
11:53I probably misspoke when I said it was your department.
11:55I meant you were overseeing it.
11:58Overseeing it, not necessarily your budget.
12:05The next few items are from Fleet.
12:07A and Ross is here and present if we have questions.
12:11A6 is a resolution to approve the purchase of an international utility body truck from Rush Truck Centers in the amount of $99,084 and 40 cents pursuant pursuant to a source well cooperative purchasing contract.
12:28A7, and I'll read all these, and then if we have questions for Ross, we can ask all at once if that's okay.
12:34A seven is a resolution to authorize the purchase of a jetter truck, perhaps it's Jeter from River City Hydraulics in the amount of 224,609 dollars and one cents one cent pursuant to a source well cooperative purchasing contract.
12:51And then A8 is a resolution to authorize the purchase of one caterpillar skid steer and four caterpillar excavators from JA Riggs Tractor Company for the total amount of $682,000, 12.81 cents plus any applicable surcharges, freight charges, and delivery fees pursuant to a source well cooperative purchasing contract.
13:14I'm having trouble with my addiction tonight.
13:18Does anybody have any questions about these purchases for Ross?
13:24That will move us on to A9, a resolution to approve an agreement with Waste Cooperation Corporation of Arkansas, LLC, doing business as GLF environmental for the hauling and disposal of solid waste in the city of Fayetteville for a period of two years with automatic renewals for two additional two-year terms.
13:49Um, I have a question, I guess, to Mr.
13:53How many solid waste haulers does the city um permit?
13:58Currently we have 21 or 22 uh private franchise haulers who are permitted in the city.
14:06So as long as they um agree to our permit requirements, um, we pretty much just go ahead and add another one.
14:12We don't have a ceiling or anything like that, a cap.
14:15That has been our practice, yes.
14:23Item 10, a resolution to waive formal competitive bidding and approve a cost share agreement with Kalara Land LLC for upgrades to the Owl Creek sewer lift station with a refund to be paid by the city in an amount not to exceed 898,746 and 95 cents to approve a project contingency in the amount of 44,937.
14:4944,937 and 35 cents, and to approve the related budget adjustments.
14:55Um is here to answer questions about this cost share agreement if anyone has them.
15:05And I am not seeing any, so we will move on.
15:08The next two items are also Tim's.
15:11A11, a resolution to approve a professional engineering services agreement with RJN Group Incorporated, pursuant to RFQ 25-1, selection number 13 in an amount not to exceed $843,610 for phase one of the 2026 wastewater collection system master plan to approve a project contingency in the amount of 160,380 and to approve the related budget adjustment.
15:41And a 12, a resolution pursuant to section 39.10 C4 of the Fayetteville City Code to authorize a payment of 100,000 to Chris Skowraki for sewer damage for a sewer damage claim arising at 516 North Fallon Avenue in Fayetteville.
16:05Yes, uh this consistent constituent uh contacted me uh a few times.
16:12Um it it but by their telling uh it seems like the damages exceed a hundred thousand uh exceed a hundred thousand, and they're asking for the full you know uh compensation for for all the damages.
16:30Or uh that's correct.
16:32It's not uncommon for claimants to ask for more than what the ordinance allows, but he is asking uh he has turned in claims for more than 100,000.
16:42And and what happens in that case?
16:44I mean, and and let's say he has receipts for 120,000.
16:49So the way the ordinance is uh for 35,000, the utilities department can't authorize that payment.
16:55Uh up to 30,000 or to 50,000, the city council can authorize it.
17:00Up to 100,000, it has to be the mayor's recommendation to the city council with the two-thirds majority pass, and in no case will the city pay more than 100,000.
17:11Well it can you say that last part again?
17:13Um in no case will the city pay over 100,000 according to the ordinance.
17:18Kit would you like can can Bob do you mind if Kit weighs in on that?
17:23For uh many many years, most of the time that we've been a uh mayor council form of government, there was no payment.
17:31It was later on we decided that because we have sovereign immunity, so even if we're at fault, we don't legally owe that money.
17:40However, the statutes have allowed us to have a program like this, and so the city council decided to go ahead and do that, but with definite limits on it because we're not an insurance company.
17:53This money's not free money, this money is paid by ratepayers, and so that's why there's a definite limit on it.
18:00It's probably easier to collect from us than it is if they are had their own insurance and try to collect it, but we definitely need a limit on this.
18:09Uh, or else our ratepayers are gonna see their rates go up to pay for larger and larger claims.
18:15But I guess my concern is if uh if the the city something happens in this case, I think it was this uh a sewer line got punctured or something, uh flooded uh this property uh did I don't know what they're saying it did, but over a hundred thousand dollars worth of damage that that constituent just has to just pay out of pocket for for the city destroying their property.
18:45Before we had this, they would receive nothing.
18:48Well, I understand now the city council has put a limit on it of one hundred thousand dollars.
18:53It used to be significantly lower, it's been raised and raised.
18:57Uh, and that's of course up to the city council what you want to do, but it's not just this one person you're looking at, you're looking at every ratepayer.
19:06And so that's what you've got to keep in mind.
19:08You got to balance that.
19:09It's much more difficult to ignore or or to say, well, we can't pay the whole thing to you because I see you.
19:16You don't see all the thousands of ratepayers are going to be paying for this if we don't have limits.
19:20But that is a city council decision.
19:23You could pay more by changing this ordinance.
19:28Uh, and then this so the city doesn't have insurance is gonna pay this.
19:34This is gonna be paid out of a fund.
19:37If we had insurance, we'd be paying tremendous insurance pop premiums and everybody.
19:45Um I'm gonna reach out to that constituent, just let them know what I heard tonight.
19:54Um, if I if next week uh I want to pull this, I can pull this off next week.
20:02Your rule the city council rules allow uh for an any council member to pull an item off consent at them at the meeting itself.
20:12Berna, and then Keith, is your mic still on too?
20:15Um if my memory's correct at the water insurer, wasn't there some uh discussion about they had turned in receipts and claims uh that were not allowable or that would that push their amount over the hundred thousand dollars?
20:36Well I was kind of remembering I believe some of the receipts were estimates of of the work that hadn't been performed yet.
20:42They also uh turned in a res turn in a claim for about 80 days of hotel stay when the ordinance allows for three days.
20:53Um but we did use a third party adjuster on this, and so we've uh we're in agreement uh with the resident on the on the actual damage of the of the structure and uh the damage of his personal lines.
21:11Uh that's exactly what I wanted to clarify is these are not actuals on some of these, these are estimates, and then also a good portion of this additional over the 100,000 dollars was uh hotel stays.
21:21Just wanted to make sure uh you're aware of that.
21:29So of all the um estimated damages um that you've agreed upon that uh the that the adjuster that represents the city has agreed upon.
21:39Is it a hundred thousand dollars or less if you ignore um the extra hotel stays?
21:46No, I think uh the total is about a hundred and twenty thousand when you count everything.
21:50129,000 988 is what's been required.
21:54And that includes the extra hotel stays or not.
22:05So I was here when we changed the ceiling, and we had some robust conversation.
22:09I appreciate the city attorney that we do have that immunity and that we have to figure out a ceiling.
22:14I just don't know if I recall with the other incidents that the resident has had to totally vacate the premises.
22:20I feel like those folks that we worked with in the past still were at the home, and so I hear the three days, but it does say in his documentation, I think they knew they were gonna be displaced for six months.
22:32And so I guess that becomes my question too about for the future.
22:36Um, if we need some kind of clause in here or something to consider if somebody can stay in the home when it's been partially damaged versus if you have a full move out, if your you know, entire home has had um something come in, right?
22:48That you'd have to leave and vacate.
22:50I guess that's my question of you only have three days that we're saying that we cover, and that doesn't sound very logical to me to think about if my entire you know one-story house had been had sewage in it or something, uh, you know, seepage, you know, then I would probably have to leave for more than three days.
23:07And so I guess I just don't remember us talking about um the separate accommodation that might be needed.
23:13I think some of the other homeowners were still on site or on premises, or I don't remember them asking for rental or displacement.
23:21Well, when we did change the ordinance off the McKee Court incident, it wasn't about hotel stay, it was about uh actually knocking a uh home off of its foundation more or less because of water leak.
23:34My my take on this, you know, it's there's a lot of human nature built into this.
23:39So if you get somebody that's been in the water sewer business for four decades, you know, you you look about it and you think that some things can be salvaged or recovered, but for a resident that this is the first time that it's ever happened to, it's a traumatic experience, and anything that even got to look at the sewage uh is good to be thrown away.
24:00That's clearly why we have ordinance that can clearly spell out what the rules are because you gotta you gotta factor out human nature and something like this.
24:09It just feels like maybe there might be a middle ground on the three days.
24:13You know, P had said they were displaced for months, and we have three days, three days just seems really minimal, I guess.
24:19So maybe that's just something for us to think about.
24:24Um, does our insurance adjuster does do they also kind of analyze um how many days the uh the homeowner needs to be away?
24:34Is that part of their evaluation process, or is that or do they not do that?
24:38I do not think that they try to uh figure out how many days it need to be away from the home.
24:44Uh the adjuster, which is is very good at at seeing through things and seeing the real cost, and and also let's uh the first thing that he does with the resident is let them know what the ordinance says, so they're clear on that.
25:00So this resident has been told several times what the ordinance says, so it certainly will hurt to talk to them again.
25:04And and they were told immediately after it happened, right?
25:07That you hey, you only have three days that we'll pay for a hotel room.
25:11He was told that, yes, by a fuel curve.
25:19I think my question is for Kit.
25:21Uh uh Kit, I want to make sure I abide by FOIA.
25:24So if I wanted to share, like I was uh shared a big collection of photos of the damage.
25:30If I wanted to share that, should I send it to Cara if I wanted to share that with the rest of the council?
25:36So I don't want to violate any FOIA.
25:39Certainly, you could uh share them with uh Kara or have her put it in the agenda packet if you want to.
25:48It might be good just as a courtesy to let the applicant know that if you do that, that before we put photos of the interior of his home.
25:55Oh I mean, I certainly wouldn't want that, but thank you.
25:59Yeah, we just mean bit, but maybe you know he may not mind, but that might just be a courteous thing to do.
26:04Okay, thank you, Mayor.
26:05That's a good Keith.
26:07Just kidding maybe one thing you can clarify.
26:09How does the homeowner's insurance policy factor into this?
26:13Well, we exclude if if a if a homeowner has an insurance policy that covers that, they're supposed to let us know.
26:21And then the only thing we would pay at that point in time would be the deductible, but that's only if the insurance company would not claim our payment as their own subrogation that is what's that called, because we don't want to pay an insurance company's uh policy.
26:37There's a homeowners pay the insurance company for these damages, they don't pay us as an insurance policy, and so uh we don't want to pay an insurance company out of this, but they're supposed to tell us if they have insurance and and have to certify that that they do not have it that would cover this.
27:07Um I believe that is our last item on consent, and I believe is now the I don't know that we really have rules that govern when the administration brings up a walk-on at agenda session, or do we?
27:22Anytime you want to do it.
27:27Since it's I'm just gonna do it now because I'm afraid I will forget if not.
27:32This is um an item I emailed the council and the city attorney and the clerk's office about it on Thursday.
27:39So you should of last week or on Friday, rather.
27:42Um, this is a grant opportunity through the Department of Transportation.
27:46Chris Brown is here and can speak about it if you have questions.
27:50Um we just couldn't quite get it to you in time.
27:53Um, we're seeking permission to apply for the grant.
27:59I will tell you that we probably would have requested it go on consent had we made it, had we made it in time, we just didn't meet the cutoff deadline.
28:08But does that mean do we need to put it on new business and not put it on consent since it's being walked on today?
28:16Whatever the city council would like to do.
28:18I'd like to see if they would have to do that.
28:21I mean, it seems like an over and I'm very excited that we're focused on the Weddington corridor.
28:27I mean, I I'd be agreeable.
28:29Chris, can you just give us a quick rundown since we're talking about putting it on consent?
28:34Yeah, so the the Weddington corridor, we've had many, many requests, um, mostly west of I-49 for signalization.
28:42We have some misaligned intersections out there, high traffic speeds, uh, safety issues in that uh area, and then just east of I-49, uh, obviously we have a lot of development.
28:54That's a four-lane road in front of the all of that development.
28:58Uh so we've been collecting funds from some of those developments for a turn lane, um, and this would allow us to to study that, determine what that uh turn lane would need to look like and and uh potential signalization intersection improvements on the east of I-49 as well.
29:16So it includes really the entire section from Garland Avenue all the way out to Double Springs Road, uh, looking at all of those uh sections.
29:27I do um have a question.
29:28I know that we've very tentatively, so not to get you um or put anybody uh solid to this that we've said, but we have definitely had it proposed, um, thinking about the ownership potentially for the city from Garland, like to the interstate.
29:44Um, how does if we're starting to already look at this section and look at this with the grant, how would that potentially interact?
29:51Because I'm really hoping in the near term, especially with the investment we're looking at with the new bond investing on the other portion of the roadway, thinking about how this could be a continuity.
30:04Yeah, so the the Weddington corridor, obviously, it's a state highway right now.
30:09Uh, so RDOT will be a partner in this study.
30:13Um, I believe this really strengthens our opportunity to get some capital funds from RDOT if they if the council does wish to uh take over that section of Weddington, then I believe we need to use that as is leverage to to ask our dot for some corresponding capital funds.
30:31Uh so we we don't want to we don't want to give that opportunity away, but this really kind of helps us move toward that direction.
30:38I appreciate that, Chris.
30:44Uh, and thank you, Chris, for bringing this forward.
30:46Um, is this if we are able to get this grant, will the grant be written in such a way that it will only apply to Weddington, or will it have more flexibility for other parts of town?
30:58Uh because I'd like to go back to the constituents and say we really are trying to address some of these accident and traffic issues on Weddington.
31:05Uh yes, this will be for Weddington specifically.
31:10So it sounds like we're agreed to place on consent, uh, Clerk Paxton.
31:17Um that brings us to what we'll hear next week for unfinished business.
31:20Item B1, this will be our uh third read, or it was left on the forgive me, my goodness.
31:28It was tabled, and we will now be hearing the West Michael Cole Drive rezoning.
31:34Jonathan, is there anything new that's transpired between you and the applicant or that we have we received any new info since we last heard this item?
31:42Nothing specifically.
31:43I followed up with the applicant today because I know the council benefits and appreciates having information in advance of the council meeting.
31:49They shared that they are working with Olsen, if you'll recall that uh Swope Engineering is the applicant's representative, but Olsen Engineering is doing the flood work, and so they're trying to collaborate and make sure that the uh questions about the potential to remove detention from the area of conservation cultural uh uh recreation zone district and about aligning the floodplain with the RIU zoning districts.
32:12Uh, they were needed to make sure that the flood study could reconcile that, and they hope to have an answer for you all by Tuesday.
32:17So apologize, that's the extent of what I have to offer today.
32:24Um, the next item of new business is the North Crossover Road and East Zion Road um rezoning.
32:30And I believe we have a request from the applicant to table this item.
32:34Is that correct, Jonathan?
32:36That's correct, Mayor.
32:37The applicants are the representant representative, the primary applicant representative will not be available at the next council meeting.
32:43Uh, but perhaps more importantly for the council's purposes, uh, there were several questions that were asked for additional detail uh most prominently about how drainage will interact between this project and the existing Chandler Crossing project that they want to coordinate between again two different engineering firms.
32:59Uh the applicant is represented by CEI with Chandler Crossing represented by ESI, and they're wanting to make sure that they can speak coherently to the council about how those drainage interactions will work.
33:10Uh additionally, staff we I heard some homework for us as well coordinating with engineering on the intersection design details at the intersection of crossover and Zion.
33:20Uh, there are questions of what that looks like and what R DOT would allow.
33:24So we'll have that information for you.
33:26Uh we could have it next Tuesday if that's helpful for the council, or we can uh delay that until uh if the council does uh allow the item to be tabled or vote to table the item.
33:35Uh additionally, there are questions about uh whether an additional traffic study would be required, and then we're evaluating that.
33:42Uh and finally, uh we're working to create a more clear outline for the council about how this project, if it's approved, interacts with the Chandler Crossing project because there are questions about how to make sure street improvements in particular were consistent and happening when the impacts were happening.
33:58Um so to that, and I'm happy to take questions.
34:00And if the council preferred me to if the council is intending to look favorably on the tabling next Tuesday, but would like to hear those updates from staff in the interim, I'm happy to do that.
34:11Otherwise, uh we can plan on uh providing that uh at the at the uh first meeting in March if the item is tabled.
34:21I'm not sure this might be a kit question, but you know, this was annexed land and the history of it, and then it was you know, master plan does this PCD in totality, and I know it's come up in conversation that um whether or not the rest of the PCD as Chandler crossing, what the hit the future is, and so for me, I need to look at that in totality, and so I don't know how that works because the current applicant is different than the actual owner, and the owner is who really did the PCD.
35:00Can we require or can we ask for you know politely an update to just understand where Chandler Crossing is as far as are they do they have future plans to go forward with the the rest of it?
35:09Obviously, it has to be does it still it probably has to be revised additionally now if this were to go forward.
35:15And so I'm just trying to understand.
35:17We've kind of talked about precedent.
35:18So if we go and make this change potentially, are we then gonna see this entire PCD come back and be a totally different configuration?
35:30Well, the existing PCD, if you approve this one, the remaining PCD is still uh should be a still a viable plan zoning district, even though there'll be a gap in where they originally had planned to develop it in a different way.
35:46It doesn't mean they can't still develop their other one as it as the remaining, yeah, it shows.
35:51However, they could also redesign their one uh to try to change uh their original PCD to take into better account this gap, it has to be approved by the city council no matter what they want to do, unless they just build their their old PCD the same way with this gap being filled by something else.
36:11So it's uh really it remains pretty much within your power to approve or not approve if they're trying to make any kind of change in this.
36:21I as a follow-up, one of the things I guess I'm just trying to gain insight is if we know what the additional future plans are for the rest of the remaining other portion of the PCD.
36:31I know it exists in the form it does on paper, but we've seen PCDs not execute, and so that's where I just didn't know if we have any mechanisms at all to maybe ask and see if there's a way they could provide an update if possible.
36:45We can certainly request that information.
36:51Thank you, voice mayor.
36:53Um, I guess I just have kind of a theoretical question.
36:56Um so is it I'm just kind of gonna go down this rabbit hole.
37:02Um, so we've approved a PCD.
37:04Now this is being kind of partitioned off as a separate uh uh revision.
37:10Could they come back uh and just piecemeal this forever so that the original PCD did not in any shape, way or form um conform to what they brought forward a couple of years ago?
37:23I mean, is there anything that prevents them from doing that?
37:26I I know it has to come back to the council, but I'm just wondering.
37:30I think the owner of land can always come back and ask for rezoning, no matter if they have a PCD or a regular zoning, they always have that right.
37:39They uh approving this would not the only thing it would do is remove part of the land they couldn't ask for a different rezoning on that because they don't own it anymore.
37:47But uh when we when you all zone land is always subject to a rezoning, which you would have to approve, but an owner can always ask to have it done.
37:57And that's just another follow-up.
38:00Um so you can go from PCD to a rezoning, just to a regular rezoning type, correct?
38:06There's nothing that prevents from that reverting to or um somebody coming in later on and saying they want that neighborhood conservation or something like that.
38:16The council is what would prevent it if they were not supportive of it.
38:22I just got back, so I'm gonna go with Sarah since you filled in for me.
38:27Um yeah, we we have had uh council member Turk may remember um Markham Hill was before me.
38:36Oh, it was before you okay.
38:37Well, all right, it was before you.
38:40So anyway, anyway, we had a re we had a PCD then and we resisted it.
38:47And you know, so I I don't know.
38:51This is a challenging thing because this has been fairly recent.
38:55That issue had been rezoned quite a while before we we revisited it, and this is fairly recent, and we annexed land to include this PCD as well.
39:06So a lot to think about there, I think.
39:11Um, I think my question is for kit.
39:13Um, I sent an email earlier, but it pretty late in the day, so I don't think anybody had time to really uh go over it much.
39:20Uh so I'm fine if we're gonna table this, I'm fine to get my answers uh at the following uh uh agenda session.
39:28But um I'm wondering uh so I I think it was mentioned uh improvements to crossover and north, and I know there's probably an obstacle there dealing with the state, but we're dealing with the PZD.
39:42Do we have the the Bob do you mean crossover and Joyce or something else?
39:48I'm sorry, crossover and sign.
39:50Uh uh, do we have uh the authority or power to request uh improvements to the actual intersection of crossover in Joyce, or would that be outside of our um ability or or well that's a constitutional question?
40:00Uh do we have uh the authority or power to request uh improvements to the actual intersection of crossover in Joyce, or would that be outside of our um ability or or well that's a constitutional question, and it depends if the this new development that you're talking about, uh the impact of that new development would be such to justify requiring them to spend money and how much money on a splash rate, especially an off-site improvement.
40:24So it is something that has to be done, looked at very carefully, and uh originally by the uh the planning commission will look at it, uh staff first, but then uh they can appeal to the planning commission and to the city council.
40:38So that's really a constitutional issue about whether or not there'd be enough impact to justify requiring them to pay money.
40:48Okay, so that brings us to the new business portion of next week's meeting, I believe.
40:55Item C one is a resolution brought forth by Dr.
40:58DeAndre Jones, a resolution to rename the City Hall Annex to the Lionel Jordan Municipal Annex.
41:11Oh, sorry, good evening.
41:14Um this has been brought um by me on behalf of members of the of our fraternity.
41:23Um of course, Mayor Jordan is an honorary member, and um I'm bringing it on their behalf, and as Mayor on As she just stated, uh they're wanting to uh we are wanting to rename the annex um the Lionel Jordan Umnex Um because he was uh for one of the reasons he was the longest serving mayor in Fayetteville, and next next week actually we've got two fraternity members who will be doing a presentation.
42:07So uh if y'all have any questions, then it will be available on next week to do a presentation uh as it relates to uh any questions you all may have.
42:29Um I think my concern is um I I do believe uh, you know, uh Mayor Jordan was the longest serving mayor.
42:40I would love to name something after him.
42:43I would hope that we could name something uh significant, more significant than the annex building uh in his honor.
42:53Um I mean that not many people in the public even know that building exists.
42:59It it's just kind of a a staff overflow building.
43:04I mean, our parks and wreck is there, uh some of our meetings are there, but I really think that um if we're gonna do this, I I would hope that we would do like a uh um have the building be more a uh uh a landmark building, if that makes sense.
43:24The purpose of discussing this next week, uh I'm not going to go into it right now because this is the agenda session.
43:30This is not time for that.
43:32So uh we will uh I think next week is the more appropriate time to discuss um to have that conversation.
43:41Jones, I'm gonna get to several several of your.
43:43I don't know if you're able to see us uh in the way you're set up, but we several lights are on, so I heard, but I am gonna go ahead and call on everyone and give them their chance.
43:54DeAndre, this is uh a remarkably gracious um gesture on your part, and I deeply appreciate that.
44:02Did you have an opportunity to to talk to uh Mr.
44:07Yes, I spoke to Mayor Jordan last week.
44:12I think uh I have some tendencies to agree with councilman Stafford in the sense that for a dignitary like our long-serving mayor, I think kind of my preference would be for city involvement and city council involvement versus a single entity bringing that forward.
44:30And so that's just I don't know if we have a process for naming structures like we do for naming streets, but it might be something for us to consider.
44:43That's Bobber, thank you.
44:46Bunch, um, I was going to bring up some of the same issues that um council member Stafford and Councilmember Wheaker brought up, but um, so they kind of hit on my my points as well.
45:00I I do think we need a possibly a process on this, and uh I would hope that um when we get to our meeting next week that we can have a you know that our conversation will it needs to be a council conversation.
45:14Um, you know, it needs to be uh, you know, I'm hoping that uh council member uh Dr.
45:19Jones will be able to answer some questions for us too.
45:25If we don't have any more questions about this item, I'm gonna go on to item C2, an ordinance to rezone the property described in RZN 2025-74 for approximately 0.23 acres located at 1023 South Morningside Drive and 691 East McClinton Street in Ward 1 from NC neighborhood conservation to UN Urban Neighborhood.
45:54And as we decided at the beginning of the year, we are going to go back to by default having Mr.
45:58Kurt present um at least a brief overview on rezoned.
46:03So please go ahead, Jonathan.
46:05And before jumping into the next four items, I did want to point out to the council since I know you've noted before uh the planning commission votes and as an indicator of how many commissioners are in attendance.
46:16You will notice that all four of these items had five commissioners in attendance.
46:20Uh, I'd like that to be it'd be understood to the uh uh the council that that was our inclement weather meeting.
46:26That meeting occurred on the money Monday of that weather event.
46:30So uh in my eyes and estimation, we were fortunate to get the five commissioners there to in order to be able to carry forward business.
46:36Uh so I just wanted to present that and let you all know it.
46:39Uh I don't think it is representative of a dereliction of duty.
46:42I think it's more representation of their commitment.
46:45That said, and getting to the item at hand.
46:48Uh this is in Southeast Fayetteville, uh, is east of Walker Park on the southwest corner of Morningside in McClinton, uh just west of the Park Meadows neighborhood.
46:56Uh if you visit the property, you will notice that there is a partial demolition underway on the building.
47:01Uh, they did receive a permit for that, and their goal is to return it to its original floor plan.
47:06Uh the request before council is to rezone the property from NC neighborhood conservation to UN urban neighborhood.
47:13Uh staff and the planning commissioner are recommending in favor of this, and the pub we've not received any public comment to date.
47:19And I can take any questions that the council has.
47:26Yeah, uh, and staff is in favor, you said yes, staff and the planning commission.
47:30Oh, planning commission is in favor too.
47:32Were there any will you let us know with these next?
47:35I know there's only five members there.
47:37So were all these unanimous?
47:39Yes, I mean I can I can save you all the time.
47:41Staff is recommending in favor of all four of these, and they are all forwarded to city council by unanimous five to zero vote.
47:50Um Jonathan, could you clarify that they met quorum obviously with five?
47:55Is five the quorum amount?
47:58It is, and in the planning commission bylaws, there are only two classes of product or product uh application that require a uh an established number of votes to approve it.
48:10It's conditional use permits and changes to our master street plan.
48:13Anything else is a majority of those that are present, but yes, five is quorum.
48:21Moving on to item C3, an ordinance to rezone the property described in RZN 2025-71 for approximately 1.8 acres located at 416 South Willow Avenue in Ward 1, from NC, neighborhood conservation to UN Urban Neighborhood and RIU residential intermediate urban.
48:45This request is also in Southeast Fayetteville, albeit a little bit closer to downtown where we are sitting.
48:50It is an unusually shaped property east of 4th Street or the intersection of 4th Street and Willow and also immediately east of the Combe Street Church of Christ.
49:00While it does have almost 300 feet of frontage on Willow as it uh goes from being an angled street to running due north-south, uh, just slightly less than half the property is actually set back from willow, located within the block of this area.
49:14Uh the request is to rezone uh the majority of the property, uh about 1.6 acres of it to RIU residential intermediate urban from its current NC neighborhood conservation designation, and then the corner of the property on Willow would be rezoned to UN urban neighborhood.
49:31Going back to the applicant's original request, their proposal was to rezone the entirety of the property to UN urban neighborhood.
49:38Uh staff did not uh recommend in favor of it because of that odd-shaped property.
49:42We did have concerns about the potential increased intensity and activities that could occur basically in the middle of the block in people's backyards and did not feel it was an appropriate location for that.
49:52Uh the planning commission uh agreed with SAF's alternative recommendation, which is what's before you, which is to have the majority of the property zone to RIU with that corner as UN and forwarded it to city council unanimously.
50:05There was some public comment heard on this item.
50:08I believe it's at least three members of the public expressed opposition to it with concern about the potential density on that property.
50:15Although one of those uh one of those individuals did express support for the amended request, which is uh before council.
50:22I I can't speak to the other two though.
50:24And I can take any questions that council has on this one.
50:29Um did the applicant state then that their plans for the property would work with that change and approval.
50:35They expressed that they were amenable to the change at the council meeting.
50:39I know since then they have reached out to planning with potential iterations.
50:43Uh staff's preferences to move forward with what's before the council or will be before council on Tuesday.
50:48Uh so I don't know if they will bring an alternative to council or speak to more details about that, but okay.
50:55I'll I'll let them know that the question was asked.
50:57Okay, thank you, Jonathan.
51:00And that brings us to the oh, I'm sorry, sorry.
51:04I was late late on the light.
51:05Uh I just wanted to let everybody know I did hear from one uh constituent about this who has a neighboring property, and I think their main concern was just having a uh I guess it'll be a road or is it a road or driveway that they'll have going back on the property?
51:25Given the shape of the property, and it's got a there's a point if you have your wrap in front of you, it may be helpful.
51:30Otherwise, I can pull up.
51:31There's a it's basically like kind of a two-lobed piece of property.
51:34One lobe is up against willow, and then there's a pinch point between adjoining properties before there's a second lobe of land that's within the block uh within it.
51:44Uh and to access that back portion, it would certainly have to have a driveway back there.
51:49I don't believe it could accommodate a public street though.
51:52So I think that was their concern is having that uh driveway like along the side of their house that'll serve uh multiple units.
52:01But that's it was just that one constituent I heard from.
52:04I haven't heard from others, and I don't know.
52:06I think they were at the planning commission meeting.
52:08I don't know if they're satisfied with the new request or not.
52:11I'll reach out to them.
52:14I think this is the first meeting in a while.
52:16I can recall where all four are recommended not only by staff but also by all planning commission.
52:21So that's nice to see.
52:23Um, and we are keeping with our theme of ward one tonight.
52:26Um C4 is an ordinance to rezone the property described in RZN 2025-67 for approximately 2.42 acres located at 660 South Crossover Road in Ward 1 from RSF 4, residential single family, four units per acre, and C2, thoroughfare commercial, to UT Urban Thoroughfare.
52:50This remains in Southeast Fayetteville, but instead of coming closer to downtown, we are much further to the southeast of this the core of the city.
52:58Uh this is about 200 feet north of the gas station that's located at the northeast corner of Huntsville and crossover, if that helps orient you.
53:07The property is currently developed with a single family zone or single family home, and it is uh split zoned east-west with the northern portion, currently zoned RSF4 residential single family four units per acre, and the southern portion zone C2 Thoroughfare commercial.
53:22The request is to rezone the entirety of the property to UT Urban Thoroughfare.
53:26Uh, staff is recommending in favor of the request, and the planning commission forwarded it to council unanimously, and to date we've not received any public comment on this item.
53:35I can take any questions that the council has.
53:39Minister Jones, I just had one.
53:41I want to go back, mayor.
53:42I had noted that staff was not in favor of RZN 2025 071.
53:49We did not support the applicant's original request, and we put forward an alternative.
53:54The planning commission accepted that, and per our ordinances, what the planning commission accepts and sends the council is officially the request.
54:03So the request that's before you is what staff recommended as an alternative.
54:07So we are supporting how the ordinance is written on that item.
54:12So sorry for the confusion.
54:13We did not we did not support their original request, so you're you're correct in hearing that.
54:21Is an ordinance to rezone the property described in RZN 2025-73 for approximately 0.3 acres located at 1149 Southwest Avenue in Ward 1 from RMF 24, residential multifamily, 24 units per acre, rezoning to RIU residential intermediate urban.
54:44This is in near South Fayetteville.
54:46Uh it's about a block southeast of the National Cemetery.
54:49It is mid-block on West Avenue between 11th Street to the north and 13th Street to the south.
55:00It was previously developed with a single family home that was a uh significant source of resident concerns and complaints due to its derelict state uh previously.
55:05Um I mentioned that because if you visit the property in the uh the upcoming week, you may notice that the house on the property has been demolished.
55:12Um so it was not livable or it was not in a livable state, but I did want to pass that along to council.
55:18Uh the request is to rezone the property from RMF 24 residential multifamily 24 units per acre to RIU residential intermediate urban.
55:26And as I previewed uh the first item, uh we are recommending in favor of this request, and it did come to the city council by unanimous five to zero vote, and we've not received any public comments on this item, and I can stand for any questions that the council has.
55:43Um, so Jonathan, it looks like that lot's pretty deep.
55:47Um I'm just wondering if there's an alleyway.
55:51I I don't see one in there, but um, I don't know from the graphics if I would see one.
55:57Um, because now we're you know allowing um homes to be built uh budding alleyways.
56:05You could clarify for me.
56:06Certainly, yes, thank you for the question.
56:08There is not there is a platted alleyway, so there's alley right-away on the west side of the property.
56:13It is not improved alleyway, however.
56:16Uh so to maybe answer what may be a question, if they were to utilize the right the alley right-of-way that's on the west side of the property, they would have to improve it either north to 11th Street or south to 13th Street so that it was actually served as an accessible route to the property.
56:33And how um would they be required to get um their neighbors' approval or how would that how would that process work?
56:42We do not require neighbor approval when we're improving this the city's public right-of-way.
56:48Uh sometimes there are interactions in alleyways like this where they've been platted for 50 years, 100 years, and they've never been improved where residents have perceived that it's their property and have placed sheds, and in those instances, we we have interactions with those property owners.
57:03Um, otherwise, if the improvements to the alley or street or any public right-of-way is within that right-of-way, uh, we don't require adjoining property approval.
57:12If it bleeds over or if they need to make improvements, like add walls or or capture stormwater, it would require their consent.
57:20So, if um, you know, because it hasn't been used for all these years, um, if there were fences and all that sort of thing that were already over the right-of-way, the alley right-away area, how does that process work?
57:33Does the city come in and say, hey, um, this is going to be improved now?
57:37And what's yeah, if you could just you know enlighten me on that process.
57:42Typically, it is the property owner's responsibility to move their fences out of the right-of-way.
57:48Uh, you've probably seen many of our city projects, we tend to work with property owners, and we will often relocate their their fences, but uh it is ultimately it's the public's right-of-way.
57:58Okay, thank you so much.
58:02Okay, that brings us to the end of our agenda.
58:05I think we have an announcement from the city clerk.
58:11And just to let everyone know, we are accepting applications for the city's board committees and commissions.
58:17Um, the application must be submitted by 5 p.m.
58:20on Friday, February 20th, 2026.
58:24Keith, do you have any further announcements?
58:26Uh the only thing I have is the uh mayor say the city will be immediately after this at the uh Fable Town Center.
58:32And just a correction, when you say immediately after this, you mean 6 30.
58:36Doors open at 6, but the speech at 6 30.
58:40I was making just making sure.
58:43Thank you all so much.