0:06All right, uh good evening, and I'd like to welcome everyone this evening to the October 13 2025 Planning Commission, City Planning Commission at 14 14.
0:20I'd ask everybody to please rise and say the Pledge of Allegiance.
0:29And to the Republic for which it stands under God.
0:40All right, I'll ask the uh secretary to take the roll, please.
1:00We have eight commissioners present.
1:03If the commissioners have had an opportunity to review the minutes from our September 9th meeting, I'd ask for a motion.
1:17Alright, I'll ask staff comments and procedures, please.
1:20Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
1:22First, I'd like to remind you to silence your cell phones.
1:25And welcome to the October 14th, 2025 Planning Commission meeting.
1:29The planning commission is comprised of a group of volunteers appointed by the mayor who offer diverse expertise and perspectives guiding development and growth within Fort Smith.
1:39This evening, the planning commission will be reviewing the following items conditional use requests, development plans, rezonings, master land use plan amendments, and home occupation requests.
1:50The planning commission's actions this evening on conditional use requests, development plans, and home occupation requests will require the majority vote of those members that are present at this meeting and voting and will be final unless an interested party appeals the decision to the planning commission to the city board of directors.
2:09Appeals will be presented to the city board directors for the review at a future study session here within the Blue Line Building downtown.
2:17Master land use plan amendments and rezonings if receiving approval of the planning commission with the required five minimum yes votes will also be presented to the City of Fort Smith Board of Directors for their review on November 4th, 2025 meeting at 6 p.m.
2:34The Board of Zoning Adjustment, which consists of the same Planning Commission members will also be reviewing variance requests this evening.
2:42The action of the Board of Zoning Adjustment will be final unless appealed to a court having jurisdiction.
2:49All right, thank you very much, Tyler.
2:53We have two items a preliminary platinum heels and a final plat at Piana Hills.
2:58And I'll ask the city to briefly present those.
3:01Do we we don't we don't present unless y'all have a question?
3:05Any questions or comments?
3:06We've seen these before on Piana Hills up on the screen here briefly.
3:14I will ask for uh any comments from anyone out in the audience.
3:21All right, I'll ask for a motion for the consent agenda.
3:27All right, I will call for a vote.
3:44Eight in favor, zero opposed.
3:46All right, very good.
3:47We'll move on to item two, a home occupation at 1200 South 41st Circle and ask the city to present.
4:01Hi Commissioners, good to see you.
4:03This first item is home occupation number three, 1025.
4:10And it's applied for by Dina Brandenburg, the owner.
4:14The application is for a home-based massage therapy business at 1200 South 41st Circle.
4:23This is a duplex structure on uh just under a half of an acre that is located on South 41st Street, roughly two blocks north of Rogers, about a block and a half west of Albert Pike.
4:40The uh zoning district is RSD2.
4:44Uh and as I stated, the existing structure is a duplex unit.
4:49Um the owner has stated that they are going to uh not have more than one uh client on the premises at a given time, and as stated in the application uh between uh roughly five and ten clients in the course of a week.
5:01And as stated in the application between roughly five and ten clients in the course of a week.
5:35Are there those here in favor of this application?
5:38Miss Brandenburg, are you here?
5:41Anyone here opposed to this application?
5:44Please raise your hand.
5:48I'd ask for a uh motion to uh get this on the floor, please.
5:57Any discussions or comments from the commissioners?
6:02Good discussion in the study session.
6:11Not all as for a uh vote on item two.
6:32Our next items are three, four, and five, a master land use plan amendment, a rezoning and development plan on Wheeler Avenue.
6:52Item three is a master land use plan amendment 161025 by Brett Abbott, agent for Basiliki Investments LLC for Master Land Use Plan Amendment from Institutional to General Commercial in a proposed C5 zone at 5724 Wheeler Avenue.
7:10The subject property is on the west side of Wheeler Avenue, north of Zero Street.
7:14The tract contains an area of 0.64 acres with approximately 154 feet of street frontage along Wheeler Avenue.
7:22The property is currently zoned RM3, a companion zoning application request C5 zoning district.
7:32The Master Street Plan classifies Wheeler Avenue as major arterial.
7:37The applicant is requesting an amendment to the master land use plan to accommodate the requested C5 zoning district.
7:44The C5 zoning district has been requested to allow for the existing church building to be utilized as an event center.
7:51The requested general commercial classification is an appropriate classification for the C5 zoning district and surrounding development.
8:00Staff recommends approval.
8:04Item 4 is a rezoning 291025, a request by Brett Abbott, agent for Vasiliki Investments.
8:12For Planning Commission for a zone request from RM3 to C5 by extension.
8:22Approval of the request will allow for the existing 1,800 square foot church sanctuary to operate as an event center.
8:32The surrounding zoning and land use are as follows.
8:35To the north, we have single family residence, and it's an RM3 zone.
8:40To the west is a single family in a C5 zone.
8:44To the east is an electrical equipment appliance and components manufacturing business in an I-1 zone, and to the south is an HVAC office in a C5 zone.
8:56A conditional use application for an 1800 square foot church assessor accessory building fellowship hall was approved on April 11th, 2017 by the Planning Commission.
9:12A companion variance request from the required six feet opaque fence or a landscaping buffer adjacent to the residential properties was also approved by the Board of Zoning Adjustment at the same time at the same meeting, uh subject to the submitted approved development plan.
9:30Approval of the rezoning will allow the event center to operate from the existing 1800 square foot church sanctuary.
9:37This is this request is accompanied by the a companion master land use plan amendment application to general commercial and a development plan request for an event center.
9:49Staff recommends approvals subject to the approval of the companion master land use plan amendment and development plan applications.
10:00Item five is a development plan 1910 25 for planning command planning commission uh consideration for an event center in a proposed C5 zone approval of the development plan will facilitate the rezoning request and allow the operation of the event center from the existing 1800 square foot church.
10:25The site design features are as follows.
10:29No new driveways are proposed.
10:31The development will utilize the one existing driveway located on zero uh on Wheeler Avenue.
10:38There's an existing sidewalk along Wheeler Avenue, um, and the previously required perimeter to landscaping complies with the UDO.
10:47The plan includes dumpster and trash receptacle screening in compliance with the UDO.
10:53A new six six feet opaque privacy fence has been proposed along the north boundary of the property adjacent to the existing single family residence, and an existing natural landscape buffer exists along the western property line.
11:09Staff is requesting installation of a six feet opaque privacy fence along the entire northern boundary and a portion of the southwestern boundary adjacent to the single family residence.
11:22The site currently has 18 parking spaces and complies with the eight with the UDO.
11:28A neighborhood meeting was held on October 1st, 2025 at 6 p.m.
11:33at the Fort Smith Main Library, and no neighboring property owners attended, and that meeting was for all three items.
11:42The planning commission approved a conditional use request for an 1800 square foot church accessory building or fellowship hall on April 11th 2017, and the Board of Zoning Adjustment also approved that variance request for the six foot feet opaque privacy fence.
12:02Upon review of the uh request, staff discovered that the property was recently sold on September 23rd, 2025, and a new non-compliant landlocked parcel, parcel 1883 000, 018270 was created during the filing of that deed, and staff is requesting a replat for both parcels to resolve the issue.
12:29Staff recommends approval subject to the following construction must comply with the submitted development plan.
12:35Changes and amendments to the submitted development plan are permitted, but limited to those described in section 273307 of the UDO.
12:44Any changes greater to those described in this section will require planning commission approval.
12:49Parcels 18883 000 018270 and 16932 0003 000 00 Lot 3 must be replatted uh into one continuous lot in compliance with C5 bulk and area requirements.
13:16A six feet opaque privacy fence shall be installed along the entire northern boundary and southwest property lines adjacent to the residentially zoned and developed properties, and no outdoor storage shall be permitted.
13:30Thank you, Victoria.
13:32Uh are there those here in favor of the application?
13:35Abbott is here, I believe.
13:38Uh anyone here in opposition to this application, please raise your hand.
13:45Um I'll ask for a motion then to get the master land use plan amendment item number three on the floor, please.
13:53I'll make a motion to approve the staff comments.
13:58Any comments or questions from the commissioners?
14:02Good question on the uh the perimeter six-foot opaque screen fence.
14:06So it's on the northern side of the property.
14:09It looks like it goes on the grass strip too.
14:11Uh this might be getting in the weeds, but uh where exactly will the fence go because I notice a curb along the boundary of where the parking lot is.
14:22Is the fencing gonna go on the outside of that curb inside?
14:26It'll have to go uh it'll have to be on their property line, so where their actual true property line is, and it it could go on top of the curve if if they own you know that top part of the curve, which I assume they do since it's part of the parking lot, or they could put it on the inside of the curve.
14:42They have enough room through there, and it's actually designated as one way, even though that older plan doesn't show it good.
14:48So you know that's only 12 foot wide.
14:50So if they had to, they could put it on the inside of the curve.
14:53I would assume they would want to put it on top.
14:56I just yeah, I didn't know how they would plan that.
15:01Any other comments or questions?
15:05This seems to kind of be the trend for these churches, which I think is a good use for these spaces.
15:12Um that I'll ask for a motion on item uh excuse me, a vote on item number three.
15:19Kelly Wilson for Rod Coleman.
15:22Matt Marshall, Vicky Newton, four griffin Hannah.
15:31Eight in favor, zero opposed.
15:34Uh item number four, the rezoning.
15:37Any additional comments, questions?
15:39Not all asked for a motion then for make a motion to approve the staff comments.
15:46I'll ask for a vote.
16:01Eight in favor, zero opposed.
16:04And lastly, the development plan.
16:05I'll ask for a motion.
16:07Get that on the floor.
16:08Make a motion to approve the staff comments.
16:13I'll ask for a vote then on item number five, please.
16:32Eight in favor, zero opposed.
16:36I'll now recess the planning commission and convene the board of zoning adjustment.
16:40We actually have two items of variance and a conditional use on Grand Avenue.
16:45Thank you, Chairman.
16:48Variants 30 1025 is a request by Brett Abbott, agent for Dustin and Anna Booth for Board of Zoning Adjustment consideration of a zoning variance request from the required passing aisle for a drive-thru at 4322, 4324, 4326, and 4328 Grand Avenue.
17:09Approval of the variants will facilitate the construct construction of a 4,000 square foot shopping center containing a 2,700 square foot restaurant with a drive-thru services without the required passing lane and a 1,300 square foot insurance office.
17:27The subject property is on the south side of Grand Avenue and west of North 44th Street.
17:33The tract contains an area of 0.39 acres with approximately 130 feet of street frontage along Grand Avenue and 140 feet of street frontage along North 44th.
17:45The existing zoning on this tract is commercial light, C2.
17:52The Master Street Plan classifies Grand Avenue as a major arterial and North 44th Street as a local road.
17:59The applicant did not provide a hardship but states that the lot is not large of it is not large enough for the development.
18:26Approval of the conditional use will facilitate the construction of a 4,000 square foot shopping center containing a 2,000 square 2,700 square foot restaurant with a drive-through and a 1,300 square foot insurance office.
18:44The surrounding zoning uh and land use are as followed.
18:48To the north is single family residence, doctor's office, and restaurant with drive-through services and an RM3 uh transitional special and C2 zone.
18:58The south the the south and west are single family residences in an RM3 zone, and to the east is a salon and a C2 zone.
19:08Some of the design the the design site design features include um the development proposing four driveways, two driveways will be located off of the alley uh in connection with uh grand avenue, and two driveways will be located on North 44th Street.
19:27Perimeter landscaping and parking lot screening is in compliance with the UDO and is proposed along Grand Avenue and North 44th Street.
19:35Additional interior landscaping has been provided.
19:39A six foot tall privacy fence is proposed on the south and west property line adjacent to single family residences.
19:47Trash receptacle screening has been provided uh on the eastern and western side of the building.
19:53The development has 19 parking spaces and complies with UDO.
20:00The proposed facade consists of a hundred percent high quality materials, including brick veneer and ethos siding.
20:06A neighborhood meeting was held on Wednesday, October 1st, 2025 at 5 30 at the uh Fort Smith Main Library, and no neighboring property owners attended the meeting.
20:17On January 9th, 2024, the planning commission approved a variance from 30 feet to 24 feet side yard setback, a rezoning request from residential multifamily medium density RM3 to commercial light C2, and a development plan for request uh for a commercial shopping center subject to the submitted development plan.
20:40The board of directors subsequently approved the rezoning at the February 6th, 2024 meeting.
20:47The applicant is now proposing a new development that includes a coffee shop with drive-through services, omitting the required passing lane.
20:55If staff in staff's opinion, then the new design lacking um the required passing lane is an overdevelopment of the site.
21:05Additionally, staff believes that the new driveway locations and drive-through window infringe on the existing single-family residences located to the west and south.
21:17Staff recommends denial of the request, however, if uh the planning commission and BZA are inclined to improve to approve the application, staff's request that it substantiate the reason for the approval and include the following conditions.
21:33Construction must comply with the submitted development plan.
21:37Changes or amendments to the submitted development plan are permitted, but limited to those described in section 27307 of the UDO.
21:45Any changes greater to those described in this section will require planning commission approval.
21:51Platting and right-of-way dedicated dedication must be complete prior to the issuance of a building permit.
21:56An automatic irrigation system must be installed for the required landscaping.
22:01All site lighting must shall comply, she shall be completely shielded and comply with section 276025 of the UDO.
22:10And should a dust dumpster be utilized in the future, um, the owners shall provide a the required um trash receptacle screening and dumpster must be accessible for a sanitation apparatus.
22:26All right, thank you very much.
22:27Are those here in favor of this application this evening?
22:32Anyone opposed to this application?
22:37All right, um I'll ask for a uh motion to get item six variants on the floor, please.
22:44Motion to approve the addition of staff comments.
22:49Any comments or questions from the commission?
22:51My question kind of lies in the alleyways.
22:53Are they going to develop those alleyways or uh the you know do you happen to know if they're gonna come in with concrete on those?
23:00It kind of seems like they're accommodating the alley.
23:03And would that be on city main to maintain, or would that be on the developer to maintain?
23:08That's sort of a question for planning possibly.
23:10Yes, it will be um hard service, and the city will will maintain it after they um they concrete it there.
23:18Yeah, so it'll be the developer's expense to fix it, repair it, hard surface it, and then uh according to our uh city street department, they would maintain what's already developed, uh kind of like similar to how they maintain the existing alleys.
23:34If it's gravel, they leave it gravel and keep the limbs trimmed back.
23:37Um and they do plan on using it as as you can see.
23:41There are two new driveways off that small alley off Grand Avenue.
23:45It's only about 15 foot wide, and then the rear alley back there that's to the south, as you can see.
23:52They're really not using that.
23:53They're putting a privacy fence up there, and that's why they've requested the variance from a passing aisle, right?
23:59A drive-thru has to have where people can pull out and pass you.
24:03So will they be on the west side alley?
24:06Will they be concreting all that as well from the from the street all the way around back of the building?
24:12There is a current that there currently is um a driveway from Grand Avenue up into that alley.
24:21But it says new paving on the floor.
24:23And then they'll do new pavement.
24:24That means they're gonna pay this.
24:29So the alleyway you said is only 15 feet wide.
24:34So that would be the one-way um drive-thru as well as 15 feet wide.
24:41Can you remind us what the purpose is of a pass like the passing lane and drive-thru?
24:47Sure, it's used uh for both things.
24:49One, some people, you know, may not like setting in the lines long, but also it can be used for emergency services.
24:56Uh, this did have some conflict.
25:00Uh the the thought process was originally when this came was that well we can have this drive-thru and then the alley can serve as the passing aisle, which doesn't meet the code's definitions.
25:10You can you must have that passing aisle, but it must be on your property, right?
25:14Um also uh, you know, they installed the privacy fence.
25:19So now there's not gonna be a passing aisle.
25:21So that could cause problems uh for emergency services is something, or if a car gets broke down, now you know, do the cars back out.
25:30So um the emergency services did not like the idea of the you know not having that required passing out.
25:40There's no way to come up for you.
25:50You talk you mean Grand Avenue?
25:5344th Street coming down 44 again and your windows up top of two, no, right in the middle of the can you come off 44, do the loop around the building and hit that.
26:08Coffee shop street two, because it's oh yes, you're saying if we put the drive-thru window on the east side of the building.
26:16I'll probably just give it around like that.
26:19Yeah, I'm just asking.
26:21Uh we absolutely could, but then we don't have the five-car queuing, which which we have to have, right?
26:26We'd be queuing into the street.
26:27So the idea on this is that the drive-through lane is on our property uh with the five-car queuing.
26:35What we don't have, as Tyler said, is the pass-through lane.
26:38But the idea is that if I come down the one-way existing alley off of Grand on the west side, and I pass behind the building, and I take a look, and there's you know, three or four cars in the driveway, and I don't want to I don't want to wait, I can just jump into the alley and go and go about my business, right?
26:56Um the emergency service thing makes sense, you know.
26:58Obviously, there's gonna be a fence there, but uh as far as people having to wait and being able to get out of the line, they just wouldn't get in it to begin with.
27:11I mean, I I I think the development works other than the drive-through lane.
27:14I think the drive-thru lane doesn't have it.
27:17We've we looked across the street, the dominoes, you can see that building's beat, so are the rails.
27:22Um I just I feel like the development's great.
27:29Minus the drive-through.
27:31There's just not enough room.
27:35Small question to staff.
27:36So I know the recommendation was for denial, but if we were inclined to approve, there's a recommendation to make it to where the sanitation could get in and out.
27:46And just based on this current plan, how it it couldn't happen based on this current plan.
27:52So the and then that's for sanitation if they use a dumpster.
27:56Currently, they do not plan on using dumpsters as well we've been told.
28:00Um you can see right here they call it mechanical screening and also trash receptacle screen.
28:05Code doesn't say you have to have a dumpster, it just says all trash receptacles must be screened.
28:10My thought process is the insurance office may not you know generate much trash, however, the coffee shop may need an actual dumpster.
28:18And that was a concern by staff, rather they put something here, but they would have to work with the sanitation department on how the sanitation truck would get in there and access it if they ever do install a dumpster.
28:30You know, a coffee shop being a smaller, lighter scale restaurant, but it should produce trash where I could see for a future tenant requesting a dumpster.
28:39That's why we made that comment.
28:41Okay, I don't even think there's room to put a dumpster next to the building through the setbacks, so then it's just wide.
28:49You'd have to go outside of that front.
28:54It's a lot of building on a small site.
29:00Any other comments or questions?
29:07If not, well, I'll ask for a vote on the variance item number six.
29:13Vicky Newton against Griffin Hannah against.
29:25Against Brett Taylor?
29:28Kelly Wilson against.
29:34We have two in favor and six opposed.
29:39Uh I will reassess the board of zoning adjustment and convene the planning commission on item number seven.
29:45As for a motion, get that on the floor.
29:48Motion to approve of the addition of staff comments.
29:52Any additional comments or questions from the commissioners or Mr.
30:00Alright, I'll ask for a vote then on the conditional use item seven.
30:12Kelly Wilson against.
30:21I'm sorry, two in favor, six opposed.
30:24Those two items do not pass.
30:27We'll move on to items number eight and nine.
30:30The applicant has asked for those items to be tabled.
30:34So I will ask for a motion.
30:38We need to do them one at a time.
30:40It would do item eight first.
30:41Yeah, and you'll have to convene the so uh let's uh on item number eight.
30:47Do you have a motion to table item eight to conditional use?
30:54Um I'll ask for a vote.
31:06Kelly Wilson for Rod Palman.
31:15We assess the planning commission and convene the board of zoning adjustment and ask for a motion for tabling item number nine of variants.
31:30I ask for a uh vote on item number nine to table.
31:44Eight in favor, zero of all right.
31:47We'll now move to item number ten, a variance at Utica Place.
31:56Uh variants 2910 25, a request by J.R.
32:01McFayt, owner for the various requests from 25 feet to 20 feet from uh front yard setback in residential multimedium density RM3 zone at 1924 Utica Place.
32:14Approval of the variants will allow the previously constructed 10 by 20 wood framed metal roof carport to remain.
32:21The subject property is on the southwest corner of Utica Place and Jinny Lynn Road.
32:28The uh track contains approximately 70 feet of street frontage along Utica Place and approximately 120 feet of uh frontage along Jenny Lennon Road.
32:38Uh the applicant states that the house was existing at the time of the purchase, and due to its placement on the lot, there is insufficient uh space to add the carport without encroaching into the uh front yard setback.
32:50There was a neighborhood meeting uh held on October 1st uh at 5 30 at the uh main library.
32:57Uh no, uh this was on site.
32:59Uh one neighboring property owner attended uh the meeting uh and did not have any concerns with the project.
33:06Uh staff comment uh the building staff was contacted on June the 12th regarding construction occurring at the residence without a permit uh a at subsequent site inspection by a building inspector confirmed that the carport had been constructed without a building permit.
33:22Uh the applicant was advised by the building department uh to obtain a permit during the review of the building permit.
33:28It was determined that the front yard setback variants must be approved prior to the uh uh permit issuance.
33:34Uh, should the BCA be inclined to approve this variant, staff request the board uh substantiate its reasoning.
33:40If the BZA is inclined to approve this variant, staff recommends the following.
33:44Uh construction must comply with the submitted development plan.
33:47Changes or amendments to the submitted development plan are uh permitted but limited to those described in section 27307 of the UDO.
33:56Any changes greater than those uh described in this section will require planning commission approval.
34:06Thank you very much.
34:07Uh assume the applicant is here this evening.
34:11All right, very good.
34:12Uh who want to say something, yes, sir.
34:15Please come up and state your uh name and address for the record, please.
34:19We are being recorded.
34:20My name name is Mark Hardy.
34:22I live at 423 North of D Street, the oldest house in Fort Smith.
34:28I'm talking about this project right here.
34:31They say I didn't have permits.
34:35One, they didn't even put the right people on it as a contractor.
34:39The second one, they didn't think I need to do any infrastructure.
34:43I'm flipping this house.
34:44That roof did not look like that before.
34:46That roof was a 312.
34:49Gave it some curve appeal.
34:52Make this house usable and sellable.
34:55Here's the third one I finally got.
34:57He says I don't have no permits.
35:01I got three of them for the same address.
35:04And I I paid 250 dollars to come in here and say, give me that five foot, because people invest more in vehicles than they do in houses sometimes.
35:14So why pulled it foot five foot back?
35:16We can't put a vehicle in the driveway.
35:24Oh, Hardy, I'm sorry.
35:28So to be clear, he did have a roofing and siding permit, which does not cover the carport.
35:36After or during those inspections of the roofing and siding, that's when it was termed, hey, you don't have a permit for this car port, which he came to apply for the permit, and that's why he's here for the variance.
35:48So the variance is approved, he will get the permit for the carport.
35:51So the carport was an addition that was never reviewed by any staff.
35:55So I want to make sure that's clear, and that's why we're all here today.
35:59Well, no, I mean I want you to understand that first permit right there it was the building permit.
36:06There was a car port on it.
36:08It was a shitty little car port.
36:12Excuse me, my friends.
36:14Anyway, I put a better one on there.
36:17That third permit, they made me draw it up just like I did the elevation change and submit it to the city.
36:24They finally said, okay, but I hadn't built it.
36:28I had to add it on before I did.
36:32Again, I I can certainly understand your frustration and maybe and maybe there's some uh you know uh misunderstanding on somebody's part regarding the permit application process.
36:46I don't believe according to the city that that was exactly followed, but uh again, that's not up for the debate here at this point.
36:56We're here to debate the you know, this this variance here on this on this application in his carport, which we've seen these type before, you know.
37:04You have improved the property, you know, it looks a lot better.
37:07There's there's no no dispute about that.
37:09Your neighbors are probably happy about it.
37:12Um so um anyway, but let's do this.
37:15Let's get a do we get a motion yet on the floor for this?
37:18Why don't we get a motion on on the floor for this, please?
37:21Motion to approve with the additional staff comments.
37:26Is there anyone here in opposition of this application this evening?
37:34Any additional comments from from the from the commissioners.
37:38If we are inclined to deny this request, does he have to remove this carport that he's attached to his home?
37:47If uh he does not remove it one, he would have to remove in then the subsequent building permit.
37:53Um that's been very few in far cases between where people don't remove it, but then it it would carry on to court after a subsequent amount of time.
38:02But yes, if it is denied, they would have to remove the carport.
38:07We're just talking about five feet, right?
38:15So part of the recommendation was that there was a submitted development plan, and if there's anything that is changed from that plan, it would have to be fixed.
38:28So this med development plan was after the permits, but the uh so it shows that carport and the setback, it shows that addition, and that's where he went and uh, you know, that's part of the variance approval process.
38:40You have to supply the certified site plan.
38:43So, for instance, if he was to do a larger car port in the future, uh, then he would have to come back to the planning commission or something that uh an adjustment to this specific variance there in the front.
38:55But to be clear, there's no more construction that's needed.
38:58I mean, he's done, and he's not planning on doing more.
39:01That that's my understanding, yes.
39:03Okay, was the carport in the initial drawings of the initial permits, if you don't mind me asking, sir.
39:12Was the carport in the initial drawings of the of the initial permit?
39:16The original because I didn't have an answer from the question.
39:21What I was gonna do for it.
39:26All of these if you look at an aerial view of this this whole neighborhood, it's a horseshoe drive right off Jetty Lynn.
39:39You can see this is not the only car port that's got a metal roof that's close to the road.
39:44Matter of fact, I I I lined it up one on one down the street from us with the one that was closest to what I needed, and she was three doors down on the same side of the road.
39:56I put it right with hers.
40:00I was like, well, you know, that's but there's some like 10 foot from the road.
40:03They're not tearing it down.
40:06And I just don't see, you know, the sense the sense in it, you know.
40:10I thought I think that this carport looks perfectly fine, and if it's in the neighborhood, um, I hate that the circumstances happen the way that they did.
40:18I don't know whose fault that was, but I think I think in my opinion, it's fine.
40:23I'm ready to vote on this.
40:27Any other comments or questions?
40:30Not we'll call for a vote.
40:44Eight in favor, zero opposed.
40:47We'll move on to a variance at South Y Street.
40:52And that's item number eleven.
40:57Thank you, Chairman.
40:59Item number eleven is variants 281025 as a request by Sherry Goodram, owner for Board of Zoning Adjustment Consideration for a zoning variance request from 30 feet to 9 feet front yard setback.
41:12At 5920 South Y Street.
41:15Approval of the variants will allow the previously constructed 10 by 20 metal carport addition to remain.
41:21The subject property is located on this on the south side of South Y and east of South 58th Street.
41:29The track contains an area of 0.31 acres and approximately 90 feet of street frontage along South Y Street.
41:36The existing zoning on this tract is residential single family low density RS1.
41:44The applicant states the carport is needed to protect her children and uh vehicles from inclement weather.
41:50Uh neighborhood meeting was held on September 24th, 2025 at 5 30.
41:56Five neighboring property owners attended the meeting.
41:59Four neighboring property owners had no objection to the request, and one neighboring property owner was in opposition to the variance, stating that the design of the structure was out of character for the existing home and neighborhood.
42:13On September 8th, 2025, the building services department received a complaint about a car port being constructed without a building permit.
42:21Upon uh inspection, it was discovered that a carport was installed at the subject property.
42:26A stop work order and correction notice were placed on the on the site upon the permit application request.
42:33It was determined that the carport encroached the front yard setback and zoning variants must be approved prior to obtaining a building permit for the carport.
42:43If the BZA is inclined to approve the variance, staff request it substantiate the reason for approval and includes the following conditions.
43:12I believe the applicant is here, Miss Gudrum.
43:15Anyone here else in favor of the application?
43:18Please raise your hand.
43:21Anyone opposed to this application, please raise your hand.
43:27I'm gonna ask for a um motion to get this on the floor.
43:30And this is item number eleven variants.
43:39All right, we had a lot of good discussion at this stage session.
43:43Miss Goodman, will you just maybe come up and kind of explain how we got here on your situation?
43:54Um my children live in this home.
43:57It's it's my parents' previous residents.
44:00Um, and they have newer cars and wanted to protect them.
44:03I did not understand or know that the structure needed a permit.
44:10Um the company that I went through didn't recommend it.
44:14Um, and they came out and installed, and then the neighbor complained, and then we're like, okay, here we are.
44:19So I apologize for not knowing.
44:22Um is there anything else?
44:25No, that that's fine.
44:26Any comments or questions from the commissioners?
44:30Very similar to the last one.
44:32I kind of looks very much the same as what we just approved.
44:37I think there was the issue of this neighborhood not having any carports at all, which distinguishes it from the last application, possibly.
44:47There are two one in a house that's built into the house, like it's underneath, it's just open air.
44:53And then there's another one down the street that is on the side of the house, tucked underneath trees and stuff, according to Google.
45:02Do uh can you see them?
45:04Can you see that mat there, Rhett?
45:06Because I couldn't, I couldn't find them where they were busting the front yard setback.
45:10They're all inside the setbacks.
45:14It's just there are car ports on the street.
45:21I'm perfectly proud of this request.
45:24There are many worse structures in this town.
45:27So this one actually looks pretty good.
45:29It looks like they did it.
45:35I mean better than anything else we've seen.
45:40She the owner is not a contractor in the industry for construction.
45:46She has no idea how this process works.
45:48I'm going to assume that.
45:49It's your contractor really.
45:54And should have known.
45:55And I guess they probably didn't know.
45:57I don't think I had a contractor.
45:59I mean, I went to a company, purchased it, and then their company came out and installed.
46:08Um, but like I said, maybe it's just my mood.
46:11There are far worse things that in Fort Smith.
46:14So honestly, I wish we could find the contractor somehow, but I don't think that's possible.
46:22Um had some avenue to do that.
46:27Anyway, any other comments or questions?
46:30Not call for a vote on this item number eleven.
46:45Eight in favor, zero opposed.
46:47Thank you for consideration.
46:56We're not gonna do it.
46:58I don't know if we fix this.
47:24This is just not doing.
47:29And this and obviously, as you know, Rob, this isn't the first one you all seen, and it probably won't be the last.
47:34Um it's something I plan to brought up and did some research on how other cities are handling it.
47:41Little Rock, Fayville, a few of those are kind of in the same boat we are.
47:45Uh in this instance, I believe this one might have been a Texas contractor.
47:49So come across the border, maybe do it on a Saturday.
47:52And in you know, nobody's the wiser.
47:54If they don't apply for a permit, we can't let them know, hey, you need to adjust this to meet your setbacks.
48:00Um, and I'm not sure really what code amendment to do that because the all the different zonings, you know, they have those required setbacks, and there's no currently there's no alleviation uh for that, uh, you know, just to waive setbacks for all car ports.
48:16Uh and you know, it some neighborhoods um HOAs and that may regulate that their cells where it could be offensive.
48:26So yeah, those are good comments by Commissioner.
48:31It needs to be punitive, more punitive.
48:34I believe it's just double the building permit fee, right?
48:37But again, that's by the owner.
48:40And honestly, that's you know, you're going from $500 to a thousand dollars.
48:45That's not that's not a bringing up here from but we have some actual houses.
49:02Uh we'll move on to items number 12 and 13, a variance in a conditional use at South 73rd place.
49:13Uh variants 321025, a request by Brett Abbott agent for Derek Richardson for consideration of a zoning variance request from the minimum required high quality materials and uh industrial light zone at 5615 South 73rd place.
49:29Approval of the variance request will facilitate the construction of a 20,000 eight hundred and fifty-three square foot uh sports complex with a barbershop and two athletic fields without the required high quality materials on the north rear facade and the east side facade.
49:47The subject property is located on the north end of the South 73rd place uh cul-de-sac, north and also north of uh uh South Zero Street.
50:00The track contains an area of 9.96 acres with approximately 185 feet of street frontage along South 73rd place.
50:07The applicant states that the north rear and the east side facades face the railroad tracks and have no uh public visibility.
50:16There was a neighborhood meeting that was held on October 1st at the main branch of the Fort Smith Library, uh, and there were no neighboring property owners in attendance for staff comments.
50:27The uh the applicant is requesting a variance from the high quality material to install 100% metal wall panels on the east and north facades that abut undevelopment properties.
50:39The entire south and west facades will contain 100% high quality uh materials, including EFIS, Hardy Board, and Rock Wainscott.
50:48In staff's opinion, the 100% high quality material on the facades visible from the developed properties and right-away will improve the overall aesthetics of the project while controlling expenditures by allowing metal on the facades not visible to the public.
51:03Staff recommends approval with the following conditions.
51:07Uh construction must comply with a submitted development plan.
51:10Changes or amendments to the submitted development plan are permitted, but the uh but are limit to those described in sections 27 330 uh 7 of the UDO.
51:20Any changes greater than that uh described in this section will require planning commission approval.
51:25Uh the south front and the west side facades must consist of 100% high quality as shown on the development plan.
51:34Uh landscaping and parking lot screening must comply with UDO and uh site lighting shall comply with uh the UDO on item 13, which is a conditional use, conditional use uh 131025, a request by Brad Abbott, agent for Derek Richardson for planning commission consideration to develop a sports complex in athletic fields at 5615 South 73rd place.
52:03Approval of the conditional use will allow for a 27,853 square foot sports complex with a barbershop and also with two athletic fields.
52:14Some of the site design features for this project, uh the landscaping uh the uh plan indicates conceptual perimeter landscaping and interior landscaping.
52:24Uh landscaping must comply with the UDO.
52:27Uh screening the plan shows dumpster screening and ground mounted HVAC uh and mechanical screening.
52:33Uh there are 54 uh proposed parking spaces and which does comply with the UDO.
52:39Uh and as we stated, some of the architectural features, which uh you know the applicant is seeking a variance from what we just talked about from the uh uh from the east side and the north side uh from high quality, the south and the front uh front and the west will have a 100% high quality staff uh comments the conditional use and companion variance application will facilitate the construction of a new sports complex with the uh 1,489 square foot barbershop, a 4911 uh square foot general retail business and two athletic fields.
53:16Staff recommends approval of the following with the following conditions.
53:20Construction must comply with the submitted development plan.
53:23Uh changes or amendments to the uh submitted development plan are permitted, but are limited to those described in section 2730-7 of the UDO.
53:31Any changes greater than that described in this section will require planning commission approval.
53:36The south front and west side facades must consist of 100% high quality materials as shown on the development plan.
53:43Uh landscaping and parking lot screening must comply with the UDO.
53:47Uh site lighting shall comply with the UDO, and all required landscaping must be irrigated with an automatic irrigation system.
54:01Uh are there those here in favor of the application this evening?
54:08All right, very good.
54:12I'm gonna call for a motion on item 12 of variants.
54:15I'll make a motion to approve with staff comments.
54:19All right, any additional comments, questions?
54:23Applicant gave a good presentation at the study session.
54:25I think it's good development for the city.
54:27So UI I'll call for a vote.
54:32Kelly Wilson, Rod Coleman.
54:34Four Matt Marshall, Vicky Newton, four and Hannah.
54:43Eight in favor, zero opposed.
54:45I'll recess the board of zoning adjustment.
54:47Convene the planning commission to consider item 13 conditional use.
54:51I'll ask for a motion to get that on the floor.
54:54Motion to approve with staff comments.
54:57Any additional comments or questions?
55:00I'll call for vote on item 13, conditional use.
55:15Eight in favor, zero opposed.
55:18Those two items passed.
55:19Last two items are items 14 and 15, a rezoning and a development plan on Rogers Avenue.
55:28The last two items are rezoning number 30-10-25.
55:34A request by Goodwin Engineering LLC agent for Goodwin Family Trust for a zone change from residential single family duplex low medium density, which is RSD2, and commercial heavy, which is C52 Commercial Light, which is C2 at 8716 Rogers Avenue.
55:58Accompanying the rezoning application is a development plan application number two number 20-10-25.
56:08Also a request by Goodwin Engineering Agent for Goodwin Family Trust.
56:13And this development plan application is for approval of a shopping center with drive-through and a proposed commercial light C2 zone at 8716 Rogers Avenue.
56:25I will start with the rezoning and kind of walk us through that and segue straight into the development plan.
56:33But these are two separate items.
56:35Approval of the subject rezoning and companion development plan will facilitate construction of two 8800 square foot commercial retail buildings, including one building with drive-through service.
57:26And it is approximately 190 feet of frontage along South 87th Street.
59:08And they also had questions about the allowable uses of the property.
59:14Moving on to the development plan itself.
1:00:02Tells us that to the north is the undeveloped land that is slightly outside of the boundary of this application.
1:00:10And then across Rogers Avenue is uh American Freight Furniture Retailer.
1:00:16Immediately to the east is MetaServe, home care pharmacy.
1:00:21To the south is Chamberlain Mechanical combined with a single family residence that uh sits upon the currently duplex zone property south as a subject site, and then to the west is a portion of the Maraud of Fort Smith assisted living facility.
1:00:42Um with regard to access to this site, there are two.
1:00:50Let's go to the master plan.
1:00:52Um the colored one.
1:00:55There are two driveways that are uh proposed to intersect with 87th Street and the one driveway I mentioned a moment ago that would take vehicles in and out of the site onto Rogers Avenue.
1:01:09Um with regard to drainage, it is worth mentioning that the uh applicant proposes underground detention vaults uh adjacent to Rogers Avenue.
1:01:21The entire site drains to the north toward Rogers Avenue, and so those would be the vaults that receive uh stormwater runoff and then meter that water out at the pre-development rate.
1:01:34Um additional right-of-way is proposed at uh as part of this development application, but um there will be plating required prior to issuance of a building permit, and it's not inconceivable that additional right-of-way may be uh uh deemed necessary at the time of plat review.
1:01:54Uh there is screening adjacent to 87th Street that will be in conformance with the UDO.
1:02:03And um because of excessive excavation that will be needed to make this site work on the south boundary.
1:02:11There will be a retaining wall that ranges between four and six feet in height, and the applicant proposes to place a uh screen privacy fence atop the retaining wall.
1:02:23Um architectural features worth noting is that the uh applicant is proposing to use 100% high quality materials on the north, east, and west facades consisting of stone, glass, and stucco.
1:02:44Um that is in excess of the required 51% minimum.
1:02:50So they're exceeding that in their proposal, and then the rear facade comply with the UDO providing 51% uh stucco and 49% metal wall materials.
1:03:02Um I already mentioned the neighborhood meeting, and I will conclude that staff recommends approval of the rezoning application, and staff recommends approval of the development plan application with the following conditions.
1:03:16Uh one construction must comply with the submitted development plan.
1:03:19Changes or amendments to the submitted development plan are permitted, but limited to those described in section 2730-7 of the UDO.
1:03:29Any changes greater than those described in this section will require planning commission approval.
1:03:34Two, the subject site must be platted prior to occupancy.
1:03:38Additional right-of-way and or easements may be deemed necessary at the time of plating.
1:03:43Three, sidewalks must be installed on the east side of eight of South 87th Street and along Rogers Avenue frontage with the subject phase of construction.
1:03:53And then finally, all required landscaping must be irrigated with an automatic irrigation system.
1:03:59That concludes my presentation, and I'm glad to answer questions if you have them.
1:04:04Thank you very much.
1:04:06The applicant is here, Ms.
1:04:08Uh anyone here opposed or just have comments or questions for the applicants.
1:04:12Please raise your hand, and you're more than welcome to come up, please, and state your name and address.
1:04:22Cindy Larkin home address is 3712 Bay Side Circle.
1:04:27It's concerning your comment, the building to the left.
1:04:33It's MetaSave, M-E-D-I-S-A-V, not MetaServe Pharmacy.
1:04:43Thank you for that clarification.
1:04:55Greg Ferris, 4112 Colton Drive.
1:04:57I'm the HOA president of Wellington Place.
1:05:00What kind of businesses are we looking at going into those areas into those buildings?
1:05:05Do we have any idea?
1:05:09Comments or questions?
1:05:11Goodwin, if you don't mind.
1:05:12State your name and address, please.
1:05:14Jackson Goodwin 3503 Free Ferry Road.
1:05:17Uh generally we'd be thinking, you know, nail salons, maybe some fast food restaurants, you know, just general kind of light business, maybe some office space, maybe Jay.
1:05:28We're pretty open to just about anything that could go there.
1:05:33Um I'd say pretty similar to even the strip center to the west of this that has like the wingstop or pizza hut, just similar like uses that you'd see over there.
1:05:43So during construction on 87th, are they going to be accessing off 87th to do the construction and all the dirt work?
1:05:51And if so, who's going to maintain keeping that cleaned off?
1:05:54Because we have, I mean, that goes back to a housing addition, obviously, and you know, there's there's emergency vehicles going into that retirement place constantly.
1:06:05So if you've got dirt and stuff on there and it gets wet and it's gonna be slick, we're gonna have an issue.
1:06:10That'll be all on us.
1:06:11We'll be doing all the construction, so we'll get all our you know, DEQ permits through the state and make sure we're maintaining uh you know, all the dirt on side and cleaning the street up and all that, sir.
1:06:23It's also worth noting that there is an access to very aware of that.
1:06:32And the the applicant would be required to have construction and stormwater permanent plan and that sort of thing to maintain and records as well.
1:06:43Ferrari's for your comments.
1:06:44I have a question about the retain wall on the rear.
1:06:49Is it a fence going right on top of that?
1:06:51Yes, we'll have a six-foot opaque fence on top of that as well.
1:06:54Right on the property line on the on the side.
1:06:56It'll be, I think, five foot off the property line, but obviously on top of the fence, centered on the fence.
1:07:02Yeah, just wondering.
1:07:04I know that site's got some.
1:07:06I live out that way, so that site's got some pretty steep aggressive slope.
1:07:10Um, I just wanted to know how that were approaching that.
1:07:16Hi, Alan Parsons at 8713 Lee Circle.
1:07:19I just have a question about the amount of traffic that's gonna come out on 87th Street, and getting out of there now, it's very hard to get on Rogers.
1:07:28And then we have to go over to Mazard, and the traffic on Mazard now is very difficult to get out.
1:07:34So how much is that gonna affect our neighborhoods?
1:07:39Is the applicant have any questions?
1:07:41I mean, there are study, there are traffic studies, I believe, that are performed uh regarding the development plan, that sort of thing.
1:07:47Our engineering department does look on all at each development and assesses the traffic flow on both you know local road and Rogers Avenue, but when they do that, they will assess it both, having the availability of using both Rogers Avenue and 87th.
1:08:04And we did have a pre-development meeting with all the other city departments, like we do with most larger developments like this, and currently in the engineering department did not uh voice any concerns uh with this design.
1:08:18Um now the front half is is zone C5 and on Rogers Avenue.
1:08:23So I'm assuming with that exit and entrance there on Rogers Avenue, and that's probably why they did not have any concerns.
1:08:30And additionally, I like State Rogers Avenue as a state highway, so also R Dot will be involved with that.
1:08:39So could Rot overrualize or overrule the development plan, or how does that work?
1:08:45We uh so the applicant has to comply with ROT, and the city will not approve it until R dot approves both the driveway location for any development that's on on the C.
1:08:56So that's part of our requirement package, similar to airport approval if something's close to the approach zone.
1:09:03We require the applicant or developer to provide us the information from the state of Arkansas giving that approval.
1:09:12And regarding the traffic, that diagonal road across the lot, it's with phase one, correct?
1:09:19And so I I think the majority of the traffic entering the property will probably be using that drive coming up, the main drive.
1:09:25Um, I doubt they'll pull on to 87th.
1:09:29Exiting, there could be some people that hit 87th because it might just be more convenient, but I I think the majority of the traffic's gonna use that center aisle uh the of the development when they're visiting that site.
1:09:42All right, any other comments or questions again.
1:09:45Every everybody's welcome.
1:09:46This is your opportunity if you're here tonight and have any, please come forward.
1:09:54That's why we have a public hearing, so please voice any comments or questions you have.
1:10:00My name is Julie Wakefield.
1:10:02I live at 4000 Gascony Way, which is on the corner of Gascony and Lee Street.
1:10:07I was wondering if any consideration had been given to the fact that traffic will increase on Lee Street.
1:10:15Because it is a cutoff from Massard Road to 87th, directly to 87th.
1:10:22We already have people who are using that as a shortcut to get further down Rogers and avoid traffic on Phoenix and Massard Road and Rogers and Massard Road.
1:10:34And so I will be very sure that traffic is going to increase along Lee Avenue or Lee Street.
1:10:50So has any consideration been given to Lee Street?
1:10:55Thank you for those comments.
1:10:59We work with city engineering staff, you know, to review what influx of traffic we're gonna have.
1:11:05And at this time, you know, no obviously of the area and said, hey, this is what we're thinking what it was.
1:11:13Uh I haven't recommended any improvement.
1:11:16We made it to the public infrastructure at this time, but we'd be willing to work with them and say, Hey, we need to add something traffic towards Roger.
1:11:28Because uh I have a very short driveway, and I will be having to pull out backwards onto Lee Street with increased traffic.
1:11:38Uh and that will decrease my property values because who wants to buy a house where the only access is onto a road that has increased traffic, and also it's a residential neighborhood.
1:11:52We have families there with children that ride their bikes around the neighborhood, people who walk for exercise, and they're going to be put at risk when they're out going to and from on Lee Street.
1:12:05So I haven't heard any concerns here about what that's going to be like for me and for the other people whose only access to their homes is on Lee Street.
1:12:18Certainly appreciate those concerns, and it is a well everyone here knows it's well-established neighborhood.
1:12:24Uh you know, fortunately and unfortunately, the growth is out east to the city toward your neighborhood.
1:12:31Um any general questions or comments.
1:12:35I mean, obviously that's part of our consideration on our votes, and uh uh and believe me, it's not gone unheard.
1:12:43Regardless of the vote, you know, your comments are appreciated and understood.
1:12:47I appreciate you hearing.
1:12:52Anyone else, please?
1:12:54This is your opportunity.
1:12:56Yes, ma'am, absolutely.
1:12:58Okay, would you would you ma'am?
1:13:00Could you just come up again?
1:13:01How's this back to our park first?
1:13:05We will be having uh you know, public well, we plan on doing public infrastructure extensions, extending eight-inch water line into property service, so it will use water pressure, but I don't think it'll have an adverse effect where production whatever.
1:13:26So two things there.
1:13:28One, I'd like to say uh for the record, because this is recorded and it's live that she asked how the water pressure would be affected.
1:13:36Um so when when you do ask those, try to step up, Jackson.
1:13:40Um that way we can when we go back to type the minutes.
1:13:43Um our city utility engineering department looks at all plan reviews.
1:13:49Goodwin is an engineer as well.
1:13:50He has to provide the hydrolysis or the analysis and those engineering numbers to make sure that that complies uh with the water pressures and those flow rates within the city, and that's not just this development, it's all developments.
1:14:02So there's minimum uh standards that they can't, you know.
1:14:06You you can't develop that without providing that infrastructure that maintains that uh uh water pressure, and that's why we have those engineers within our utility department to review the engineering analysis that he puts together approving and showing that.
1:14:23All right, any other comments or questions?
1:14:26All good comments, appreciate all of those.
1:14:29All right, um I don't believe we actually have a motion on the floor for the rezoning, so I'll ask for a uh on item 14 a motion to be on the floor with the rezoning.
1:14:40Make a motion to approve of the addition of staff comments, second.
1:14:45I think Rhett seconded.
1:14:47Yeah, any other comments or questions?
1:14:51Just before the vote, I just like to say for the record, Commissioner Coleman and Commissioner Marshall had to leave for other obligations, so they will not be voting, participating.
1:15:02So anyway, at that moment then I'll ask for a vote.
1:15:07Vicky Newton, four Griffin Hannah?
1:15:10David Tyler, four.
1:15:14Kelly Wilson, four.
1:15:16Six in favor, opposed.
1:15:19Uh item 15 is the development plan, and I'll ask for a motion to get item 15 on the development plan.
1:15:27Motion approved with the addition of staff comments.
1:15:31Any other comments or questions?
1:15:34We'll ask for a vote, please on item 15.
1:15:49Six in favor, zero.
1:15:51And with that, we will adjourn the meeting and have a good rest of your evening.
1:15:55Thank you very much.