1:42Claudio March 5th meeting of the City Council to order.
1:46We will start with the Pledge of Allegiance.
1:52Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.
1:59One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
2:14That's really loud today.
2:26Moved by Councilmember Shackelford, second by Councilmember Atkins.
2:34Don't know what that was.
2:38Any comments from Council members.
2:42I think we started over there last week.
2:43We'll start with Councilmember Shackleford.
2:54Uh, Council President, I'll be brief, but I just wanted to say that it is a honor, and it makes me very proud to serve with you as my council president.
3:08And yesterday was no exception.
3:10So thank you very much for everything that you do for our community.
3:15Well, I can't follow that, so no comments from me.
3:19Uh just a quick note to thank Lakeisha Wade and the Sir Her staff for putting together a terrific uh second one.
3:25I attended the the uh Black History Month event, that was great, and the women's history month event this past week was also great.
3:31So many thanks to them for coordinating that.
4:17Now is the time for public comments from folks who want to make public comments.
4:23Do we have a list, Ms.
4:29This is an opportunity for members of the public to address the council regarding items that may or may not appear on the agenda.
4:34Please note speakers should first think you should give their first their should first give their name and address.
5:00So first is Kelly Russell.
5:06Ah, you're on an item.
5:20Good evening, Council.
5:21My name is Kathy Anderson, and I live on Fairview Avenue in Frederick for over 18 years.
5:26I'm here tonight because I believe this new council, and congratulations to all the new faces, has a unique responsibility.
5:34You have the chance to look at how the city operates with fresh eyes, especially and specifically regarding the way our boards and commissions are run.
5:44Right now, the system is basically set up for the mayor to protect himself and push through his interests.
5:50And to be blunt, it's not working for the community or the taxpayers.
5:54The mayor's office acts as the gatekeeper for everything.
5:59This creates a bias that touches every single board in the city from planning and zoning to the ethics commission.
6:06The first issue is the appointment process.
6:08Currently, the mayor hand picks every member of these boards, and the council is just expected to say yes.
6:14That is how you end up with boards that are stacked to protect a single agenda.
6:19We need to move to an open council interview model.
6:23If someone wants to serve on the city board, they should have an interview in front of you, the council, in a public meeting.
6:31You should be picking the best person for the job after hearing from everyone who applied.
6:37This takes the power away from one person and puts it where we can actually see what's happening.
6:43The second issue is the citywide lawyer problem.
6:46Our city attorney is appointed by the mayor.
6:49When the ethics commission or the planning board gets legal advice from that same lawyer, they aren't getting independent guidance.
6:57They are getting guidance from the mayor.
7:00We have seen this lead to quiet dismissals and ethic cases because the legal advice comes from a person.
7:21We need a law that mandates independent outside council whenever there's a conflict.
7:27You all have the power to change these rules.
7:30You aren't just here to rubber stamp the mayor's picks.
7:33You are here to make sure the system works for the people who pay the taxes.
7:38I am asking you to schedule a leg legislative work session to discuss these reforms.
7:44Let's use your fresh perspective to finally break the cycle and make City Hall accountable.
7:55Any additional public comments other than for specific items?
8:01We will move on to the consent agenda.
8:05All items included under the consent agenda are considered to be routinely by the council.
8:10They will be approved by one motion without separate discussion on each item unless a person requests present requests an item or items to be removed from the consent agenda.
8:19Any item removed from the consent agenda will be considered separately at the end of the consent agenda.
8:24If you would like to any of the items below considered separately, please say so when the council president announces each category.
8:31We will start with request to serve alcohol on city property.
8:47Moved by Council Vice President Nash, second by council president or council member Bram.
8:58And second, um special ordinance S26-2.
9:08Moved by Council Vice President Nash, second by Council Member Shackelford, all in favor.
9:18We'll move on to purchases.
9:21The first is the approval of a contract with grindline skate parks in the amount of 1,688,766 for professional services associated with design, demolition, and construction of a new skate park at Hill Street Park.
9:38Good evening, Council members.
9:39My name is Jonathan Whitting.
9:41I'm a project manager with uh DPW in the projects department.
9:44I'm here this evening to request approval with a contract with Grindline Skate Parks for professional services associated with the design, demolition, and new construction of a new state park located in in the Hill Street Park, which is in District 2, in the amount of 1,688,766.
10:03In addition, the staff is requesting authorization to issue a purchase order in the total amount of $1,848,974, a difference of 160,208 will be allocated as contingencies to address unforeseen fill condition, design require uh refinements, and other necessary scope adjustments that may arise during construction.
10:28This project is funded in part by a $1 million outdoor recreation legacy program federal grant administrated through the Mellon, Maryland Department of Natural Resources with the remaining project costs funded through required city matching funds.
10:43Approval of this contract and course purchase order will enable the city to proceed in a timely manner, maintain compliance with grant requirements, and advanced replacement of existing facilities with a modern, safe, community-oriented skate park that will serve residents for years to come.
11:01And I could answer any questions that the council may have.
11:05Any questions from the council members?
11:08Do you have an estimated date of opening?
11:13So timeline was 247 days after approval, so that puts us early next year, probably.
11:24I happened to be up there yesterday and just walked by it and it's in uh need of repair or replacement.
11:31Was it 20 years ago?
11:33It's been a while, yeah.
11:36Yes, it is very unskatable, right?
11:41And with that being said, the length of this in terms of the careless project, 2004, we've got 20 years, this rebuilt or modification renovations, new skate parks will last how long?
11:54Well, this is going to be like their marquee skate park because this is one of the larger skate parks that this company's built, so they're going to put a lot of effort in.
12:02I would say 20 years.
12:04Concrete usually lasts if it's placed correctly, 20 years or so.
12:07Maintain the correct way.
12:14So this park is in my district, and uh it definitely is in uh need of placing or repair or probably replacing.
12:21So the contract is for design and construction.
12:26So once the design process works, is there going to be opportunities for the community, not only in that area, but also the skaters to you actually have a lot of people.
12:39Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna hold three uh meetings with the community to get their opinions and what they would like to see.
12:45So, yes, there will be opportunities for the community to be a part of this project.
12:49Okay, so that will be during the design phase before that's approved.
12:56Any other questions?
13:01Any public comments, Ms.
13:10Good evening, members of the council.
13:12Just to note it's very difficult to hear you back here, and I know we have the sound just to let you know.
13:19My name is Kelly Russell.
13:21I live in Frederick.
13:22Tonight I want to reflect on how we arrived at this moment with the Hill Street Skate Park because projects like this do not happen by accident.
13:30Uh sorry, with deliberate advocacy and evolve step by step.
13:35The skate park was originally built in 2004 and dedicated to Arnesto A.
13:39Torres, a Frederick High School uh graduate and avid skater.
13:43He was tragically killed in a car crash at the age of 20 while studying biology at Humboldt State University.
13:49And of course, he remains in our hearts.
13:51For two decades, Hill Street Skate Park has served thousands of young people and the young at heart in our community from the surrounding region.
13:58But by the late 2010s, it was clear the facility was aging.
14:01The concrete was deteriorating.
14:04The design reflected early 2000s standards and usage had outgrown the original footprint.
14:09The first step was acknowledging that reality.
14:21We discussed the concept of a full rebuild rather than continuing to invest in short-term repairs on a failing piece of park infrastructure.
14:28That conversation grew into a broader examination of Hill Street Park's overall needs, as well as the needs of other parks all over the city, and that work, which focuses on investments and equity emphasis areas, continues today.
14:41In 2020, during a public workshop, the idea of redesigning Hill Street Park, including a rebuilt skate and art park, was formally discussed.
14:48There was a presentation by community members for a modern skate park that incorporated family spaces and public art opportunities.
14:56That was an important pivot point.
15:00It moved the concept from an informal proposal to a policy conversation.
15:02Pardon me, I'm not nervous.
15:04I've just got dry tongue tonight.
15:06In 2023, the board took concrete action when we approved funding and awarded a professional design contract to begin redevelopment planning process for the Hill Street Park improvements.
15:16Community members, including skaters, were invited to provide input on what a modern facility should look like.
15:21The project was incorporated into our capital improvements program.
15:24Cost estimates were refined.
15:26The skate park was evaluated not as a patchwork repair, but as a generational investment.
15:31Most recently, the city issued the request for repo proposals for the design build contract in front of you this evening.
15:37Each of these steps, recog recognizing the deterioration, elevating the policy discussion, funding design, conducting public engagement, aligning capital funding, and issuing procurement reflects a deliberate and responsible process.
15:51Tonight you're being asked to close the circle on this long anticipated project, and I could not be more excited to see our community stream coming true.
16:00We thank you for your support.
16:04Any other public comments on this specific agenda item?
16:18Hi, my name's Winston, and I'm an 11-year-old, and I'm super happy that the skate park is going to be built.
16:27And it's nice for my training and also a lot of new people that are trying to get into the sport.
16:35I'm so glad that everybody agreed and got the money to build it.
16:41So everyone can progress.
16:50Winston, was that your name?
16:54Any other public comments?
17:02Hi, my name is Isaiah Rosser.
17:04I work at uh in uh Embark Skate Shop, and we are thrilled to be moving through this process.
17:14Uh all the skaters in the area, thank you guys.
17:18And we can't be happy enough to have something new brought to the new generation of skaters who are coming through and want something, you know, incredible to skate, and that'll leave an impression on a kid or you know, uh teenager, adult, you know, grandparent, doesn't matter.
17:36Uh having a uh safe and enjoyable skate park that you know is unique to the city is something that um we can all be on board with and we just want to thank you from the skate shop and all the skate rats that are like you know downtown.
17:53We're we're here and we're so thankful for you guys.
18:01Any other public comments?
18:06Any comments from council members?
18:09Just briefly because Councilmember Shackled and I have had the opportunity to see many familiar faces over the years.
18:16So just wanted to thank you for your ongoing advocacy uh and for the work of the council members uh that have started the work and uh very privileged to continue the work.
18:29There are no public comments or council comments, looking for a motion.
18:38Motion by Councilmember Shakaford, second by council member Bram.
18:57Approval of issuance of a purchase order in the amount of $113,346 to Muscle Sports Lighting LC for the replacement of athletic lighting at McCurdy Fields.
19:11Scott Gesey, Park Superintendent.
19:14I'm here on behalf of the Parks and Rec department to request uh the purchasing approval for uh $113,346 in issuance of purchase order to Muscov Sports Lighting as part of our ongoing efforts to uh renovate the 102-year-old facility at McCurdy Field.
19:36Um this project would uh complete a full uh full removal replacement of the athletic field lighting system that dates to 1973.
19:49Uh we would replace everything uh with high efficiency LED fixtures, uh significantly improving the efficiency and the safe lighting for youth sports.
20:02Um if you have any questions, I'd be glad to try and answer this.
20:08Any questions from the council?
20:12Um so we're replacing the lights now.
20:14What's next for McCurdy Field?
20:16What's the next improvement project?
20:18Uh well, we just finished uh renovations to the playing surface, uh, full sod replacement, addition of an irrigation system.
20:27Um after after successful lighting replacement, we're continuing uh bleacher replacement, spectator seating, uh, as well as uh concrete and and ADA approaches to the entrances for spectator.
20:44I was hoping was next was the seating, so thank you.
20:48Any other questions?
20:52Um baseball season is coming soon.
20:55Are will these lights be in place for the upcoming season?
20:59Uh our fields technically opened March 1st uh earlier this week.
21:04We haven't had cooperative weather.
21:06Uh so we haven't had great playing time just yet.
21:10Um not available for this spring season, but uh if we do get approval by the time the orders placed and parts and everything arrive and we get on an install schedule, we're hoping for uh late June, early July.
21:34Any other questions?
21:36Um I don't know if this is a lot of money or a little money for for something like this.
21:41How many quotes did you receive?
21:47Uh Moscow is one of the industry leaders.
21:51Uh we currently use our lights at Hill Street Park, Max Keen Park.
21:56Uh they have a patented uh control link system where we can remote in anywhere with in the world with internet connection to control and monitor the lights.
22:08Uh so this would stream streamline our lighting system and keep it in line with existing other locations.
22:16Okay, along that were any other vendors considered?
22:22So was this part of a ongoing contract?
22:27We were proposing to ride um the excuse me, I got a find it in here.
22:37The uh the source well.
22:44It's a national cooperative purchasing agreement.
22:46Uh so this was bid cooperative through the source well.
22:51Uh and they've awarded this contract to Muscow, and they're offering that uh base cooperative pricing to us and via piggyback contract.
23:08Any other questions?
23:14Any public comments?
23:19If there are none, I'll look for a motion.
23:31Motion made by Councilmember Brenton, second by Councilmember Hempel Rani.
23:42And next, approval of issuance of a purchase order in the amount of 131,065 to Muscle Sport Lighting for the retrofit of athletic lighting at Lotus Field.
23:53Good evening again, Scott Gesey, Park Superintendent.
23:57Um, on behalf of the parks and recreation department to request purchasing approval uh in the amount of 131,065 uh again to Muscow Sports Lighting.
24:09Uh this project would retrofit the existing lighting at Lotes Field.
24:14Um as part of the ongoing renovations at Harry Grove Stadium.
24:21Um that project's currently removing 110 lighting fixtures from the stadium.
24:28Uh rather than send them to the scrap heap, we're trying to salvage 68 of those fixtures and repurpose them and have them installed on Lotes Field for youth sports located directly behind the stadium.
24:42Uh the lights currently in place at Lotes uh are the original lights that date to approximately 1990 when Lotes Park and the stadium were originally built.
24:54Um so the lights coming down off the stadium uh are currently 18 years old.
25:01Uh they were originally installed in 2008, uh but yet they're half the life as as and as old as what we currently have in place.
25:10So this would again significantly improve the the sports lighting at Lotes Field.
25:16Um they have less than 5,000 hours of use on them currently.
25:21Uh and this improvement would we anticipate would give us another 15 years of life inspectancy out of the out of the lights before we needed to consider major upgrades or further replacement at Lotes Park.
25:34Um it's uh a significant cost savings to us, and again uh we propose to piggyback on the National Source Well Cooperative contract through Muscow.
25:47If I can answer any questions, I'd be glad to try to try.
25:53Uh understanding that the current lights on Lotes Field aren't probably LEDs.
25:59Are are the replacement lights coming from uh the other field?
26:05No, the these are metal halide uh in can high intensity incandescent.
26:12They're uh not LED, the the new lights actually going up on the stadium R, but these are not and and I assume they can't be retrofitted to be LED.
26:21No, that would require more wiring replacement and more of a renovation than we were willing to take on at this time.
26:31And I applaud the reuse of those lights.
26:33That's that is a nice cost saving, so thank you for thinking that.
26:41Scott, for the new lights at Harry Grove, is that part of the requirement for affiliation with the keys?
26:48Uh major league has their own lighting standards, and um, if I'm not mistaken, those are also uh color changing options which uh enhance the visit visitor and spectator experience too.
27:06Any other questions?
27:09Any public comments?
27:19Moved by Councilmember Epkins, second by Council Member Bram.
27:30Next is the approval of a second amendment to lease agreement with Cell Co Partnership.
27:51Good evening, everyone.
27:55I'm the facility manager for the city of Frederick.
27:58And uh I'm here tonight to present a uh lease amendment on the tower lease agreement that we have with Verizon at Mercury Field.
28:12The uh amendment or the original agreement dates back to 2009 when uh we we entered into an agreement with Verizon to erect a tower that would serve the dual purpose of providing lighting or supplementing the lighting for the stadium while at the same time you know giving them a tower to mount their communication, their cellular communication equipment on.
28:46And that that arrangement it came into question because after after some time in in 2021 when I first came to join the city, Verizon had contacted me or American Tower was representing Verizon contacted me and said they they were considering withdrawing their agreement because they felt like the cost of the site was too much for them for them to justify staying in that that location.
29:26The uh at first I didn't know what to do, but uh ATT came to us and said they were seeking uh tower space in the city of Frederick.
29:41So I I linked them to the representative for for Verizon or American Tower, and and we reached a three-way agreement that gave the opportunity for for them to sublease space on the tower.
30:02The city's contribution to it was just finding space in McCurdy field for their ground equipment.
30:10And we we we came across you know after after after some debate, you know, the the we managed to find 396 square square feet of ground space for them to to put their their uh ground equipment and it's tucked away so it's not doesn't create any intrusion onto the playing field.
30:40Uh so after after that agreement was worked out, you know they uh they we signed an agreement with ATT to lease that ground space.
30:54Uh Verizon signed an agreement with ATT to supplement their income on the tower and that stabilize the the relay relationship with the city.
31:08So at that point we uh we we signed an agreement with with Verizon to extend the the lease term for five uh six five-year terms and and these are optional terms.
31:32So after at the end of each five-year period, if if both parties agree to continue, then it just automatically continues.
31:43Okay, so so it's but but if either party wants wants to terminate the lease at the end of one of those five-year periods, you they would still be able to give notice and and uh it requires a hundred and eighty days notice to to terminate the agreement.
32:03So again that comes around every at the end of each five-year period.
32:09So the lease we're approving tonight or I'm putting before you tonight proposes uh extending the Verizon lease so that it runs concurrent with with the lease term that they signed with AT.
32:28So it does would make sense to have one without the other.
32:34So that basically this you know this provides about sixty thousand dollars a year of income to the city.
32:45So I I think it's well worth doing and hope that you will support my effort.
32:53Think is there any questions?
32:56Lawrence, just a couple.
32:57Uh one is do we do we spend any money maintaining the tower?
33:02No, no, the the maintenance of the tower is uh is on uh American Tower.
33:10And congratulations on what I think is a nice job negotiating between three parties, so that's good.
33:15Uh just a separate question.
33:17I've had feedback from uh residents in Councilmember Atkins district about terrible cell phone coverage up at Warman's Mill, and I'm wondering, again, separate from this discussion, but uh what process would we use to evaluate that and see if we can't induce getting cell tower a cell tower up there.
33:37We can take that offline if you want, but the you know what I would recommend we do is is contact you know one of the tower companies that we're currently working with and and and have them do a a technical analysis of you know area coverage and everything and have them you know make a recommendation to us as to where we can have a tower that would supplement what else is going on in the area.
34:15I'll follow up with you separately.
34:16That's great, thank you.
34:18That's it for me, thank you.
34:19Any other questions?
34:22Mark, is anybody here from either one of these companies tonight?
34:25I have a feeling not.
34:28So we have in our backup I we have the lease that you're proposing as the new as the next document that would be signed, which makes sense.
34:40I'm tracking that because that's not signed yet.
34:43That's easy for me to follow.
34:44We have the original 19 2019 2009 document.
34:52But we don't have any of the other backup that you're referring to.
35:00Any of the other back and forth that happened in that time frame.
35:04And I think you didn't include that because from your perspective.
35:08I didn't think it was fair.
35:12It's hard for me to make a decision that $60,000 is an appropriate number.
35:18And I think you've I think you're negotiating against ATT, American Tower, and Verizon.
35:26I think you're doing a fantastic job.
35:29I think that for so long, companies like ATT, Comcast, Verizon, and the issue that my colleague is talking about has nothing to do with this at all.
35:42But in my world it does, because in my mind, they don't they don't send anybody to this room.
35:49They don't care about our poor cell service in Whittier.
35:52They don't care about our poor cell service and Wormensmore, Worm and Smell.
35:57They don't care that every time I'm in Tasker's Chance I get a call dropped.
36:00And they sure as heck don't care that we're negotiating this lease tonight.
36:04So it has nothing to do with your work, but has everything to do with the fact that these companies just continue to do work in these small, what they consider small towns and they don't show up.
36:14And it just it irritates me, Mark.
36:16It has nothing to do with you.
36:18So I don't know enough to know if I'm making a good decision because $60,000 sounds like a lot of money, but they've had the same contract since 2009 with a 3% rent increase.
36:39So I hope I mean I just trying to explain where I'm coming from.
36:43I think you're trying to get the best deal that you can.
36:45I know that you're trying to get the best deal that you can for the city.
36:48Um I think you probably heard some of the same debate back probably in 2021, but I just it's a hard one for me, that's all.
36:58One thing I will say about that is that you know we we entered an agreement with uh Milestone Tower to for them to build a a tower site in uh West Side Regional Park.
37:19And they manage that tower site and you know to me all the expertise that's needed to to to get the absolute best deals available would come from people that are in that business.
37:44You know, so with with the milestone tower uh in the uh Westside Regional Park, we more or less contracted them to to manage that tower and get the best deals they could get, you know, and then we split we split the proceeds with them.
38:06And that that's that's a uh that's a method of of or an approach to doing business in a field where the city has very little expertise on board, you know, to assess and evaluate whether or not we're we're we're getting the best yield that we can.
38:29So we may want to consider if that's your concern, we may want to consider you know subcontracting, you know with organizations like Milestone.
38:43And Milestone has approached me asking if if we would be interested in in getting them involved in managing more of our sites for us.
38:57And I I think that would that would be uh an idea worth considering.
39:04I guess the other relevant I don't want to know this question of how many contracts we negotiate.
39:11But I'm sure when they negotiate contracts, they negotiate contracts from a legal means and not from the salesperson's correct.
39:20Because it's legal language and it's contractual, so I'm sure they're negotiating ATT and these corporate corporations are negotiating with their attorneys.
39:31Uh I would assume so.
39:32But there's also technical advisors that would be involved to assess coverage areas and that sort of thing.
39:40Yeah, I'm sure I'm sure they're doing that from a technical, I'm sure from a contractual though.
39:45It's more legalese attorneys or probably or negotiating these contracts and not the technical people.
39:53They may be offering the advice in terms of the parameters.
39:58But the negotiation piece are probably through the attorneys.
40:00But the negotiation piece are probably through the attorneys or legals.
40:03Yeah, but I think the salespeople, you know, would would be the ones that are thinking about you know how to maximize the dollar income.
40:13The salespeople are probably one offering, but I think.
40:25And then you mentioned one at Westside Regional Park.
40:28Are there other towers where the the city leases?
40:32The city the city has 11 towers.
40:39Any other questions?
40:41Is this a comparable price to the other 11 that are currently leased?
40:47This is actually on the high end of the spectrum.
40:54Any other questions?
41:03If there are no further comments, I'll look for a motion.
41:13Motion by Councilmember Brem, second by Councilmember Taylor.
41:22Against two abstain?
41:28So pass four five to two.
41:33Hey, Mark, before you step down, I think you've heard from several of us.
41:38Um we are concerned about cell service in specific areas.
41:42But I think when you follow up with Verizon, talk to them or send them a letter and say we have concerns and see start the conversation with them to see what we can do to better the service in the areas that are deficient.
42:03Do you can you uh allow me the lead way to talk to more than just Verizon?
42:10Uh would would it be Sure?
42:13Because again, rather than talking to Verizon who who you know obviously wants to promote their product and everything, I think it might be better to talk to to somebody like Milestone who offers expertise but yet can represent any service they want to.
42:33See what it would take and you know just start the conversation for us.
42:36Yeah, I kind of echo uh Councilmember Atkins' statement.
42:41The reason I asked how many towers we have is if we have 11 towers and we start talking to some providers, is there some sort of negotiating leverage or something that we can use?
42:50And I don't know, um, to maybe get better service and address some of the issues that uh Vice President Nash brought up.
42:57So I I think that that's very doable.
43:08Uh up next we have several uh tax-related ordinances.
43:15Bartal is presenting, Ms.
43:21I'm gonna present the first one.
43:23So first one is approval of ordinance G five D 257, updating the City Code section concerning a disabled veterans property tax credit.
43:35Thank you for the record, Rachel Gray, City Attorney.
43:38Um as you said, Section 8-10.3 of the City Code establishes a property tax credit for disabled veterans.
43:47Um after this section was enacted, the General Assembly revised the definition of a disabled disabled veteran to include those who have a non-permanent service connected disability of 100 percent that results from from certain things.
44:05Um the purpose of this ordinance is to amend our definition and some corresponding provisions to incorporate that change to state law.
44:16We are not required to make that change.
44:18We are permitted to do so.
44:20Uh Frederick County has also made that change.
44:26Happy to answer questions if I can.
44:32Do you have any idea how many veterans are currently using this program?
44:51As a follow-up to that, is that um because not enough people are qualifying or people don't know about it, or uh why aren't there more people taking advantage of it?
45:01I'm not sure if we have any way of knowing that for certain.
45:04I don't know if Katie has more information.
45:07Hi, good evening, Katie Bartle, the Chief Financial Officer for the City.
45:10Um we we don't know the answer to that, honestly.
45:13Um Frederick County handles these credits for us.
45:15Um I don't know if they would know either.
45:17Um I know that they do have a um tax credit navigator, I believe is their title.
45:25I could have that wrong, that you know, aids and assists um people looking for different tax credits in the in the county helps them apply and things like that.
45:33Um so I know that they make every effort that they can to ensure that people are uh getting the tax credits that they're qualified for, but why we don't have more use of this is not something I I know offhand.
45:47I I wonder if it has to do with eligibility, and I saw that there is an income cap, so it has to be under 100,000.
45:54So I would assume it's something to do with that.
46:00Any other questions on this particular one?
46:04Any public comments?
46:18Moved by Councilmember Taylor, second by council member Hempelani.
46:27Next is approval of ordinance G 2524 to establish property tax credit for the surviving spouse of a fallen emergency worker.
46:37Good evening, um, council members again.
46:39Katie Bartle, the chief financial officer for the city.
46:42Um this item is an ordinance that would establish a property tax credit for their surviving spouse of a fallen emergency worker as authorized under Maryland Tax Property Article 9-20.
46:54Um, under this ordinance, a surviving spouse who has not remarried can receive 100% credit against city property tax on their primary residence.
47:02To qualify, the home must have been owned by the fallen emergency worker at the time of their death and and purchase within two years of the worker's death, or be a replacement of a previously qualifying property.
47:15Um the credit would remain in effect for five years without requiring an annual reapplication unless the eligibility changes.
47:22Frederick County offers a similar tax credit, and historically the county treasurer who is just an amazing um partner with the city has administered these types of property tax credits on our behalf if we pass an ordinance that directly mirrors a county tax credit program.
47:39Um structuring an ordinance in the same way that they have allows the city to rely on this existing administrative process.
47:47There's one criteria, there's one application.
47:49Um I think that you know it's super easy for you to qualifying people to take advantage of all the tax credit programs that are offered.
47:57Um we expect, or at least we very much hope that the number of eligible cases that qualify for this tax credit will be very small.
48:05Um so we believe that the fiscal impact to the city will be minimal.
48:10And I'd be happy to answer any questions.
48:17Any public comments?
48:20I will look for a motion.
48:25I believe there is a public comment.
48:28I was probably blocking.
48:33Sorry, Donica Zemchak, it's more of a public question than a public comment.
48:38Um I was reading through the backup on this, I had a couple of questions.
48:41Are we only talking about emergency workers who work for the city of Frederick who are getting this tax break?
48:48Or emergency workers who live in the city of Frederick who get this tax break.
48:53Um how did we choose emergency workers over things like um school teachers or anything else?
49:00And the way I read this is it is while in active service, but not necessarily while during the course of employment.
49:10And I'm not sure how that works in other places also.
49:17So those were my three concerns slash questions on what's been presented.
49:32So it would this credit would be available to anyone that lives in the city that follow that meets the criteria, not necessarily works for the city.
49:41Um this, like any tax credit has to be authorized under state law.
49:46So this specific statute allows for this very specific tax credit in kind of this narrow scope of who is eligible.
49:54Um to my knowledge, there is not a tax credit available for any other type worker that um sex, sorry.
50:04Former council member, um, because I'm check has cited.
50:10There is the eligibility is uh she's asked a good question, and I knew the answer, and I just want to make sure.
50:23Um I believe the credit is intended to the emergency personnel would have died in the line of duty.
50:32That's what it says.
50:33In the summary in the in the line of duty.
50:40I just want to glance through the ordinance to make sure that I'm not.
50:44Um it says while in the active service of fire rescue or emergency medical service.
50:50So the fallen emergency worker is a result of the course of employment as a law enforcement officer, or while an active service of fire rescue or emergency medical service.
51:01So that would be the distinction there.
51:04And that distinction is also one of the things that has to match the county one in order for them to administer it?
51:11That is correct, and that is actually cited in in the state law that to offer the credit.
51:19So that same criteria is listed in the state law that authorizes us to do this.
51:27Any other questions?
51:32Now looking for a motion.
51:40Move by council member Taylor, second by councilmember Brem.
51:45One, two, three, four, five, six, and one abstention.
51:52Passes six to one establishment.
51:55And would we do that?
51:57Approval of ordinance G 2525 concerning a property tax credit for real property improvement used as a daycare center.
52:06I'm Katie Barkell, the chief financial officer for the city.
52:09Um this item is an ordinance that would establish a property tax credit for improvements used as a licensed daycare center within the City of Frederick, um, as authorized under the Maryland Tax Property Article 9-13 and 9-3, I'm sorry, 9-213 and 9-214.
52:25Um this credit applies to improvements to real property completed after July 1st, 200 2025 that are used exclusively for licensed daycare operations, including family child care homes, licensed child care centers, and daycare centers serving the elderly or adult populations.
52:44The credit would be the lesser the lesser of 10,000 or the city property tax attributable to the portion of the improved um of the improvement on the property.
52:55And it may be claimed for five consecutive years.
53:00Um recent changes to the Maryland tax property article expanded the program to allow property tax credits for child care centers located on business property.
53:09Um this would be kind of applicable to if an employer built a child care center on site for their employees, if that makes sense.
53:19Frederick County adopted those changes earlier this year, back in January.
53:23Um based on current estimates.
53:25So I I contacted the county treasurer's office.
53:27Currently, no one in Frederick County is has applied or received this tax credit, so we can only sort of guess how many people or how many businesses would apply for the tax credit.
53:39But you know, if four to six providers participate, then the annual fiscal impact to the city would be between 40 and 60,000.
53:47Um I don't expect it to be a material amount for the city, but you know, it is a you know, a a tool in the toolbox, as they say, to incentivize um the expansion of daycare capacity in the city.
54:09The historic uh tax credit uh gets a lot of publicity through the Historic Preservation Commission and and staff.
54:18And I just wonder if we don't we need to figure out how to do that with this particular credit.
54:24I I don't know if there's a database of child care and adult care facilities that we could draw upon and make sure they know about it.
54:30And uh Childcare Consortium.
54:35Great, all right, thank you.
54:36And and then on top of that, I know that organizations such as the Asian American Center of Frederick are trying to set up training programs for child care.
54:43They they certainly would want to know about this because that would be a big benefit.
54:47So I I just wonder through the city's communication staff if we can't figure out how to get the word out about this so that we don't end up the way the county has.
54:54But this is a great program.
54:58Any other questions?
55:02Any public comments.
55:18Moved by Councilmember Taylor, second by Councilmember Bram.
55:31That was the last item of business.
55:34We this is an opportunity for council members to make any additional comments that they would want to.
55:48Yes, March is women's history month, and so we recognize and celebrate the significant contributions of women, as I shared previously before in my committee hearing.
56:06Secondly, I'd like to acknowledge and shout out Noah Grove, who will be starting the Paralympics tomorrow.
56:13So all the best to him.
56:14And lastly, um the more things change, the more things stayed the same.
56:21I think it's so important that no one in our community lives in fear.
56:26And it's incumbent for us as advocates and to use our voices to ensure the protection, particularly our children, that they live in a safe and welcoming community.
56:40Thank you, Councilmember Shockerford.
56:42Um along those same lines, there was an incident uh in the city in in my district yesterday at the entrance to Hill Street Park, which happens to be two minutes from my house, where uh there was a law enforcement action by uh immigration enforcement.
57:07I'm not here to discuss immigration enforcement, uh at least not at this time.
57:11Um but there was a serious impact to our community.
57:15This happened about 200 feet from a school while kids were walking to school.
57:20Um regardless of what was actually happening, there was a huge impact.
57:26Kids were scared, kids were running, um, parents were scared, the school was uh uh dealing with that.
57:33So this is not an issue about the enforcement action, but the impact to our community, like Councilmember Shakafer said, nobody in our community should live in fear.
57:42I want to thank all the members of the council who at some point or another reached out to me uh yesterday to express our support um to be there uh after school, Councilmember Atkins was there uh to help support the community.
58:00And it's important that as advocates we speak out and let the community know that we hear them and that we know that what they're dealing with, and that we're gonna be there to help them.
58:13Any public comments with that we're adjourned.