1:44We'll begin with the Pledge of Allegiance.
2:04Tracy, did I hear you were going to kick it off first?
2:13Um Tracy Coleman, Director of Public Works.
2:16Can you all hear me okay?
2:18It echoes a little bit here, but um we good.
2:21Um I'm joined by um David Price, um, who is executive director of the National Museum of Civil War Medicine, and Lily Leonard, um, with Black Dog philanthrop she's a consultant.
2:36Um and we are here today to discuss two separate items um, but both about the Civil War Museum.
2:44One uh to discuss the lease amendment renewal um with the museum for the property at forty-eight East Patrick Street, and then also to discuss entering into an MOU with them to manage and oversee projects um that we identified in our CIP um program for some of the rehabilitation of the building.
3:06Um I'm gonna go over a little bit and then I'm gonna turn it over to David and Lily.
3:12Um they've prepared a presentation um about the museum and some of the history, so I'm not really gonna touch on that as much yet, um, unless you have questions.
3:26The um the museum, as far as the lease goes, the museum um has been leasing the building since um nineteen ninety-six.
3:35That's the updated, yeah.
3:36We there's a there's a section or as a date in the MOU that we need to correct before we go for approval.
3:45Um in nineteen ninety-six, um, establishing the permanent home downtown.
3:50Um, the term of the lease was for ten years and included two additional optional periods.
3:56It was um the museum executed both renewal options and the lease expired in August of twenty twenty-five.
4:05Um since that time, they've been on a month-to-month basis following the the terms of the original lease.
4:13Um in that original lease, um, there was a shared intent um for the property to be transferred um to the museum, um, recognizing the museum's stewardship investment and role not only in the community, um, the renovation um and utilization of the building.
4:35Um the draft amendment that we've put before you um provides an updated path towards the transfer of that property as well as some modifications to the terms to simplify some of the management of the property.
5:00It designates the museum as the project manager to oversee planning, bidding, execution of items of the city's capital improvement program along with projects that the museum has planned as well.
5:11The MOU allows the museum to contribute additional funds, which they'll talk about that in the presentation.
5:21To expand the scope of some of the projects that have been identified and to accelerate the timeline if at all.
5:31The work would be coordinated through the museum as the project manager, but the city will also be partnering with that effort.
5:42And definitely, you know, we are the ones that would approve the use of any city funds for any of the projects.
6:22So part of the reason, like part of the justification for this MOU.
6:30The reason that I support this is because of the museum's um long stewardship of the building.
6:37Um they've fund they've been a major fundraiser.
6:41Um they can ensure grant compliance.
6:43There's a couple of grants.
6:45I think I've listed them in the executive summary.
6:50Um they can coordinate the scope, the sequencing and execution of improvements.
6:57Um again, obviously all in close coordination with um cities, the city um project manager, which will likely be me or one of my direct staff.
7:10Just a couple of other quick points.
7:12Um I did not include this in the fiscal impact, but I will in the future um executive summary um when this comes before the full council is um just as an FYI, the city paid um 1.887 million for the overall property.
7:32The property was purchased in order to build the Carroll Creek parking deck.
7:38Um so the building itself is kind of a leftover.
7:41Um the maintenance costs have been just under $500,000 for the past at least 14 years, and we do the math in my head.
7:59You're saying the math doesn't add up from 1996.
8:03Um that's as far back as our um our purchasing records go for this type of a maintenance.
8:15I think that's what I wanted to present.
8:18Um would you like the museum to present first?
8:22Do you have questions for me?
8:26You have questions for Tracy?
8:40Council members, thank you.
8:41My name is Lily Leonard.
8:42I am the founder and principal of Black Dog Philanthropic.
8:45Uh, I've had the great pleasure of working alongside the National Museum of Civil War Medicine for the last year or so.
8:53Um and when I was engaged, uh, we were focused on internal renovations of our exhibits, which we will share with you in just a few minutes.
9:01Um thereafter, uh, it became uh pretty apparent that uh there were some external needs as well, um, some deferred maintenance on that building.
9:11Um you can see here um some historical photos.
9:14We had a pretty good time going into the archives, uh, and you can see David.
9:17Is that actually your office?
9:22It does fortunately does not look like that anymore.
9:25Um but these photos were circa 1999.
9:27You can get a sense, you know, as Ms.
9:28Coleman said, the Cardi Building was effectively per uh seen as excess um for um the acquisition by the city in in the late 80s.
9:37Um so the museum had entered into an agreement.
9:40Um there were a couple of initial leases.
9:42The the lease that is going to be memorialized in the MOU, that date was 1998.
9:46Um, and that's really when uh the partnership began.
9:54So those are some historical photos.
9:56You can see actually, and this is a really neat photo.
10:00Um this picture was taken on the left uh in the late 1800s, and um to the right you see what you probably see when you walk down East Patrick Street.
10:06Um that's the museum as it stands today.
10:14And I will kick it over to Mr.
10:17So, David Price, executive director.
10:19I just figured out uh this will be my fifteenth year at the museum, the longest job I've ever had.
10:25Uh but it it's an exciting one.
10:28Uh I'm thrilled to do it.
10:29We are the number one tourist attraction in downtown Frederick.
10:33Depending on the day on Yelp, we could be the top three because we're part of the historic district and we're part of the Carroll Creek project.
10:40So I like to say we are the top three in in the in the city.
10:44Um 30,000 visitors a year.
10:47Our number one audience is medical, believe it or not.
10:50And the second is, and that includes civilian and military.
10:54Um our second biggest group are the is the Heritage Traveler, which spends more money and stays longer.
11:00Um we have a great partnership with Visit Frederick.
11:05Um quite frankly, half my staff, former staff is on that uh staff over there.
11:11So we have a great partnership in that they'll share information with us in instinctually and intuitively, including their great software system now that could tell me if Joe Adkins went to Lowe's and spent 30 minutes in aisle twelve and then came to our museum.
11:29It's an incredible tracking system.
11:31I bring that up because we had been saying we generated hundreds of night overnight stays in the county, and reality um that software has told us we produce thousands.
11:42Most of our folks come from 50 miles to 250 miles away, which means they're likely to spend the night.
11:49So we're my background is owning my own business.
11:52So I'm proud to be an economic engine downtown.
11:56And the only way that we were able to do that is because of this project.
12:00Uh the city recognizing something like us should come down into a dilapidated building.
12:05We spent the money to fix it up, and now we're ready to fly and own that and take that off your books.
12:10I think we're truly an example for not only the county, the state, but really the country.
12:15It's a it's a great system.
12:18Uh we also get school groups from all over the country, from Florida, California, Virginia.
12:24Um our current exhibits, okay.
12:26So I know one has never been there.
12:28Who's been to the museum?
12:32So I I can reference the fact that you know we're partially immersive.
12:36Um part of our uh initial concept for the upgrade was to expand that further to make us a fully immersive um uh uh destination and also to upgrade the interpretive panels.
12:48They're a little wordy right now, and also uh the world is so much more visual.
12:54And and while we have images in there, um the upgrade is gonna really take us to the next level.
13:00It also will allow us to um show a lot more of our collection.
13:05Right now, we only have about 875 objects.
13:09We anticipate we can't double that, but we'll we should get over about 1,200 of them.
13:14Um right now our storyline uh really focuses around one gentleman, Peleg Bradford.
13:22Um he is a soldier from Maine who experiences everything we do, and part of our thing is uh this project is to expand that to more diverse populations.
13:36So you'll notice these are renderings of what's coming up.
13:43There's seven podiums there that you can kind of make out.
13:48They will cover uh an African-American surgeon, a uh nurse, um, even down to a dog who went through the entire Civil War Medical um process.
14:01I don't want to do an old yeller thing here and make people sad, but that will expand um our story and our audience to a younger audience than the eighth graders that we get the majority of, because that's when they study civil war.
14:13Um and everybody can relate to a dog.
14:17The um gallery uh is a great example of why this project uh that now includes the exterior and this and the systems along with an interior upgrade.
14:34It it really is an example of why the timing is great for this.
14:39I didn't go into it thinking we we were gonna worry about the outside of the building or the shell.
14:44Um but now that we are, the last area is the room that will tear down uh walls.
14:51The rest of the museum we're trying to keep kind of a similar footprint to save money.
14:57This area is where we get the most leaks.
15:00We had to deal with leaks this past week.
15:01It's always been a patching operation.
15:04We're not sure what's behind these walls because we're liable to find some of those before situations, like in the before pictures.
15:12So we're gonna start here and see what we got.
15:14But in order to do that, we'll need different sources of funding.
15:18Um and we'll make sure that the building ends up, you know, in in the best shape that it possibly can.
15:24Uh and we're calling this area the impact room because it's the impact of civil war on everything that we go through in a society these days, whether it's civilian medical care, uh, it impacted the way we view death, it impacts the way we deal with an aging population.
15:46So I appreciate the time you guys did today, uh, took today.
15:51And um, if you guys have any questions, please come over to the museum and I can show you kind of firsthand um, you know, the stuff that's in store and kind of the work that that we've already got planned.
16:03I actually got a phone call from Hartman Roofing right before this, and they're actually coming tomorrow uh to do some of the minor uh projects that we were already able to get started.
16:12With that, I'll turn it over to Lily.
16:14And I will just wrap up um and share a little bit of context around the Capitol campaign.
16:19So as I mentioned earlier, uh when I was engaged, we were really looking at the exhibits themselves.
16:24Um, and that was between 1.82 million dollars, something in that neighborhood.
16:27Things get more expensive as time passes for for various for various reasons, cost increases.
16:32Um what at the same time, um the lease came up for renewal, and uh we got a call from Richard Griffin, uh, met with Richard, and we partnered together, and the museum wrote and and was successful in a 150,000 dollar uh grant from the Department of Housing and Community Development.
16:49So through that, and I I happen to be close with that agency uh and pick up the phone and call them and I said, Hey, you know, we have these internal exhibits and we also have some external uh deferred maintenance needs.
17:02Do you prefer that we separate this application and only have the exterior brick repointing and windows and things like that, or are you comfortable with us combining efforts?
17:11Because when you combine those things, you can utilize those funds a little bit more flexibly than if you're restricted to only exterior improvements.
17:18They advised us to combine the project, um, which is where our uh it's about $3.2 million.
17:23We've built in a little bit of uh redundancy and and uh anticipating some increased cost.
17:28Um the museum has already put forth a million dollars um from its own endowment.
17:32Um above and beyond that, we've raised just over $600,000.
17:37Um this does not include the $350,000 CIP um budget item that was approved in FY26.
17:44Uh and that's really what the MOU is for.
17:46Um, and also the DHCD grant is you know who is gonna be managing these improvements.
17:51There are an abundance of them.
17:53Um we have a hydraulic elevator.
17:55Uh the things that you learn about hydraulic elevators that you never thought you'd need to know.
17:59Um brick repointing roof, as David mentioned, um windows.
18:02Of course, it's very important to maintain the historical um aspect of the work.
18:07Um sometimes that can be a little bit more expensive.
18:09Um what the expansion of the campaign allows us to do is focus on the internal uh elements as well.
18:16Um HVAC, ADA compliance, and restrooms.
18:19Um it makes a lot more sense from a logistical and from a cost effectiveness standpoint to be doing these things in tandem with the improvement of the exhibits.
18:28So um, in a lot of ways, it's it was a fortuitous sort of occasion to combine the efforts into one overall capital campaign.
18:35Uh and I'll be candid with you, as somebody that works with private philanthropy often, um, it's very uh intriguing and attractive to those funders to know that there's a public-private partnership that works well.
18:45Uh and it's been working well, uh, and we look forward to continuing the partnership.
18:48It's been wonderful to work with Ms.
18:52Um with that, I will uh yield the floor to any questions you may have.
19:02Questions I guess more for David than the other two, but I would like to find a question for Scott just to get them up there.
19:12But um how many items are in your collection about uh we're we're guesstimating about 5,000 now.
19:22And we get more during the spring and fall when people clean their attics out.
19:26And uh is part of your uh mission to have exhibits in other places, like I think at one time you had one at the newcomer house and in Antietam and other places around the area.
19:39So you yeah, the so right now the museum is three locations.
19:43It's us here in Frederick, and then we operate the Clara Barton down in D.C., and then we operate the Pry House Field Hospital Museum on Antietam.
20:02Um which neither party really was happy about, but it's put us in that spot.
20:08So the the majority of uh vast majority, like 99 percent is here in Frederick and is displayed in Frederick.
20:15So part of the upgrade is again, we're trying not to mess with the footprints too much for cost, but that last area is really it's almost like a little little maze.
20:27We're gonna blow that out.
20:28We should really be able to put a lot of new artifacts in there and then be smart about placing them in the current dioramas, we'll call them exhibit spaces to put more things in for people to see.
20:42Yeah, and I guess the point of my question was or the questions were is that really your uh reach is much farther than the city of Frederick.
20:50I mean, you go down to DC, you go out to Antiethelm.
20:53I mean, so you're drawing people in from a larger pool.
20:57You know, you stop at the fry house and you know, hey, I want to go see the the main museum or vice versa.
21:04So I think your reach is really much farther than what you're giving yourself credit for.
21:08Yeah, you're you're right, because uh when we first went into DC, we estimated a million tour buses came a year, and we just wanted to get.001 percent of that.
21:18Um we do have great partnerships with those institutions.
21:22It's definitely given us a lot of exposure.
21:25And quite frankly, COVID was good for us because our digital presence is huge.
21:31Um our videos now sometimes get half a million views.
21:35Um we've monetized that.
21:37We have outreach panels and programs that are out all the time.
21:42So yeah, our our reach, I'm proud to say through the through hard work of the staff, is that we've truly earned that national name uh recognition.
21:58We talked about it before, but uh in the uh get the document right, the first amendment of lease document.
22:05Um I understand that we're renewing for until 2030 with an option to renew for another five-year period after that.
22:14Um, and that the museum has at its option uh to elect the purchase of the premises for 100 dollars.
22:23And I I just for my comfort, I'm wondering if we could add a phrase saying that that's the museum's intent at some time during that period.
22:31We're planning on exercising that option, just to make it clear that it's not a we might, we may not, we're we're gonna.
22:38So that would that would be my only request.
22:40Councilmember, we have no issue with uh acquiring in fact I will put the 100 dollars up myself.
22:46Um but yes, we'll certainly um we'll certainly make that.
22:50And and just uh to clarify for the the remaining council members, we had talked about this before we um convened.
22:56The we would we would love to and intend on taking ownership of this building and transferring ownership far before 2030.
23:03Um we're looking at a couple of years here, ideally in a in a in a best case scenario.
23:07Um so that language was ambiguous to provide that flexibility to acquire sooner.
23:11Uh but we can certainly make that distinction.
23:22Thank you very much.
23:28Um just so our next step, we are scheduled for the April 2nd meeting.
23:34Um I think as long as we get together the language, add it to the uh first amendment to lease, um, we'll be ready and we'll have that back up into the clerk.
23:45Thank you all very much.
24:01We have in front of us next a compilation, and thank you, Clara, for the work to put all this together.
24:10Uh I think I started with bullets and she finished with actually getting it done and the links.
24:18Um and so what you have in front of you, we've as a city, there is a long history of doing studies.
24:28Uh we have many, many studies.
24:30And from best I can tell, when we need to go back and find those recommendations, at least for me, I'm always going back and trying to find the study.
24:42Um so I wanted we wanted to sort of put this forward and get ideas about how we can best move forward.
24:49I have some thoughts, but wanted to get some collaboration going.
24:55Uh you can tell what what Clara did, and I think this was really well done, is she broke it up by department.
25:01And so any query that we put in, we can put it, you know, by department and or uh certainly for budget time, this is also available.
25:11But before I went any further, Clara, I wanted to give you a chance.
25:17If there was anything you wanted to add, if not, that's cool too.
25:19But I just it was your work.
25:21Do you have anything you wanted to add to the work?
25:23It's okay, you could just say no.
25:24I wanted to just no, you're good.
25:26Um and kind of looking for next steps.
25:31One thought could be, and this will take, and I will not, this will be my work, not Clara's work, is sort of taking the recommendations that are within each of these studies and extrapolating them to figure out where we are uh for a lot of these things.
25:48I know some are actively reported on, but most are not.
25:54So I'll pick on uh the planning department.
25:58The planning department does give within their context of their update, they provide uh an update on the comprehensive plan.
26:05They started a comprehensive planning monitoring program.
26:08Um so that probably will be a little bit easier to to kind of pull pull out quickly and and connect that.
26:14But wanted to get some initial thoughts from you all before we kind of went down that road, if there was anything that would be specifically helpful or format that would be helpful, or if you just this isn't something that's of interest at all, but I just wanted to toss it up there and get thoughts.
26:36Um I think this is a great idea.
26:38Thank you so so much.
26:39I knew that there would be a lot out there, but this is more than I anticipated.
26:44Um same, I looked at this, I'm like, I don't know where to start.
26:49Um but yeah, going through them, pulling out the recommendations, and then determining where they are at or if they're useful, but it's still a lot.
27:00So I don't have ideas of how we want to break it up and let I mean, but I don't want to put all of that on you either.
27:05So I'm okay with um, you know, taking a chunk or a section of like economic development for me and you police department, you know, like breaking it up that way so we can do a deeper dive.
27:18But whatever you want, we all think.
27:20And I don't need to take economic development, just but just for an example.
27:26I I would echo council member Taylor's comment.
27:29Thank you very much, Clara, for your work in putting this together.
27:33Um I I'm I'm channeling the word intern as I say this, as opposed to uh President uh Nash or or Claire doing this, but I wonder if it would be helpful if we could get a summary of what why that project was initiated.
27:51Was it mandated by the state or the federal government, or did we want to learn more about fill in the blank or but the three sentences of of the background for it, including including whether or not it was initiated by the city or forced uh a request by somebody else.
28:10But that this list alone is worth its weight in gold.
28:13So that this is just extra credit stuff as far as helping people understand the background for why we undertook that study.
28:21Can I jump in real quick?
28:22So on just under the office of mayor, it has affordable housing task force.
28:28So that just started.
28:30So are there any other ones that oh wait, yeah.
28:33Oh, sorry, I did see an ETA on the next page.
28:36I was wondering if there are any other ones that are ongoing and if that's clearly written in here.
28:41Yeah, there's the complete streets.
28:45That's in engineering, thank you, dear.
28:50Okay, but it says it on here.
28:56Sorry, I didn't just I didn't look at the next slide.
28:58Yeah, we we tried to identify if we've been talking about them, we wanted to include them kind of thing, if that very scientific uh but but if they've been sort of mentioned and we know that they're on their way, we included them.
29:13Chair Nash, are are do these studies get sprung on council, or in other words, is the the do departments formulate, oh, we need to do a study on fill in the blank, and then all of a sudden somebody shows up with them.
29:25I I think there's a I think your original point about why did they start in the first place.
29:31Um, and and I know Joe can speak to this.
29:33There are some that are mandated by state law.
29:36There are some that were specific to achieving grant dollars.
29:40There are some that were I think like I'm looking at the climate action plan that came about.
29:49I'm not sure that was sort of a chicken and egg thing.
29:51I know we had the commission, the in the sustainability commission with the county, and you know, they the mobilize Frederick folks were sort of working towards a report, and then we did a resolution to adopt the report.
30:03Um so I definitely don't think it's a it's a one explanation for all.
30:09Um to the what I will say, what I've noticed is that we will get a presentation on a report or excuse me, a study, and then we don't hear from it again about it again until it comes up in the context of oh right, we did this thing, or oh right.
30:24Um, and I'm gonna, you know, let's take the comprehensive line out of that, right?
30:27Of the small area plans.
30:28But I mean so let's just pick the mobility fee white paper.
30:32Um I know we we put the mobility fee into place.
30:37I don't think unless somebody asked the question, how is it working, how has it been working, should it should it continue to be in place, should we repeal it?
30:46Um to my knowledge, that's never happened.
30:48So it's sort of like that kind of that kind of thought.
30:52But like, you know, the West Side Regional Park Study, the the West Side Feasibility Study, maybe as a group, we're like, you know what, that's a little outdated.
30:59It's good to have it here, it's good to know about it, but we're you know, we we don't need to take additional action on that, right?
31:05So um I just didn't know if a section of uh I'm making this up, but on deck reports, stuff that hasn't come to us yet, but which is being worked on.
31:16It it would help me with a what's coming.
31:24And when you were talking about the dates of them, um I see some for um June 2005, September 2006, March 2003.
31:36So I'm not sure what the the time frame was, maybe 20 years we were looking back.
31:40Or a little more than 20 years.
31:42I'm just pulling up.
31:44So the question is like how far back did you go?
31:46And it if I'm gonna, it's really just what we could find easily, kind of, right?
31:50That's more of a mostly generally like the department say that they're purposes.
32:17Um there's some studies that go back to the early 2000s, but most that were operating actively under now, probably from 2010 till now-ish.
32:30Just thinking would it be useful for us to look at those?
32:33But maybe with Airport Master Plan from 2006, possibly, because that might take a long time, but then with the downtown Frederick needs assessment from 2003, I don't think that'd be as useful.
32:48I think um I appreciate that feedback.
32:50And I think that might be a separate ask.
32:52I was really when I asked departments, it was more about what what are you currently using now, but I think asking for those historic studies just for context purposes, I think that's a valuable thing, and I'm happy to do that.
33:06So you reached out to the departments to ask relevant oh okay.
33:10So they gave it to you for a reason.
33:13If it wasn't posted online.
33:17I can suggest if we're gonna either farm this out or you know, to the four of us, or if we're gonna get an intern, I think the format of what we want it to look like.
33:26Are we going to go by, you know, short-term, medium, and long term, or are we going by categories?
33:33You know, is this a green thing?
33:34Is this a downtown thing?
33:36Is this a parks thing?
33:38I think that way, at least when we're all working on it, if we do, we're coming up with the same format and we don't have to, you know, try to figure out mash them up together.
33:51Although the list in itself, I mean, it's priceless.
33:53I mean I'll sure I'll be using it.
33:58Yeah, I have no interest in revisiting the total compensation study report.
34:02If you take a look at that, it's not it.
34:06Um but I guess what we know, so this is kind of being sprang on you.
34:11This is the first time this has been presented.
34:13Um we can create a format for next steps if you would like.
34:26You know, as I look at the budget and administration, I'm thinking to myself, you know, maybe maybe the best way is to see I don't want to I don't want to take anything off the table arbitrarily either.
34:39That's where I'm struggling because I know what I'm interested in.
34:41Uh so I want to I want to make sure that we're we're being fair here.
34:47Um maybe for the maybe if we just go through the departments and we maybe if we agree like this is something that we'd like to prioritize, maybe we could start there as a and then I will, Peter.
35:00I haven't lost your idea about getting additional information about, you know, essentially the origin story of of each of these and what we're what we were hoping to accomplish.
35:10Um I I appreciate that.
35:12I think that's that's good information to have.
35:16And it may be in the introduction of each report as well.
35:19That's that's probably right.
35:21That's probably right.
35:26So how does everybody feel about going through each department and just sort of if you want to work on it, maybe you um so let me back up.
35:36So I'll I'll follow Joe's idea to put together um, you know, this is if there's an if there's a history stated within the introduction, you know, just basically copy and paste it and narrow it down.
35:48And then what were the recommendations and we just leave it there and I'll just I'll create a document for the four of us to present at you know some future meeting.
35:58Does that sound like a somewhat good plan?
36:00Just so we're all on the same page.
36:03So you'll create the template.
36:09And this isn't hard and fast.
36:10Like if there's something that you see later that you're like, man, I really want to follow up on that or I want to work on that.
36:16But maybe just to get us started, and I'm thinking maybe from like a month from now, you know, we'll be we'll be in budget.
36:22I'll make sure that and I know Clara will do this as well.
36:26We'll make sure that the full council has this if they want this for budget purposes, if they want to look at anything or ask any questions or anything, that certainly doesn't stop any work.
36:35I'm I'm actually really interested in my whole purpose in all of this is to kind of this low-hanging fruit that was recommended at some point, if there's something that we can do to move the needle.
36:44That's really what I'm what my motivation is.
36:47So and I just know that that I just didn't in the previous term, I just didn't have the time to to do that kind of work.
36:54So now that we have this committee and it's sort of I I look at us as like the worker beast to like make sure that you know we're doing the things that can be done.
37:02I just um that's that's really the genesis of the why.
37:07So I guess for budget administration, does anybody have anything specific with respect to budget administration that speaks out or gets you real excited?
37:19That really just poor Katie.
37:20Katie, Mark Dahl, you do an amazing job, and it's just I think it's boring, but the strategic plan, human resources strategic plan.
37:30Okay, you want to take that one?
37:33Um I'm gonna take the water and sewer rate study if that's okay, because Katie had, and I dropped the ball on this in the previous term, Katie and team were looking at ways to end um water rate cutoffs for folks that couldn't pay.
37:48And I think it was really a it was a structural, like we just didn't have the resources.
37:54So um I'll take I'll take the water and sewer rate study.
37:59Claire, are you writing this down?
38:02You got it, Claire, and then I won't I won't duplicate yeah.
38:06And what what does disparity refer to in disparity study?
38:10So this was the um this is a case study disparity study that um let me back up.
38:16So when we were setting up the local preference program, there's case law that suggests, and Rachel's the expert on this since we did this in 2021, but there's case law that suggests that before you can set a local preference program up that's based on race, you have to display through a study that there is actually um a racial uh a gap essentially, um a need uh to be able to document that you've done the work and you've displayed the need, and so you have to do a disparity study.
38:45The best example is what the state does.
38:47The state has this massive disparity study that they do for their for the state uh local preference, but um we did that study to essentially create the legal rationale to create the local preference program.
39:03And that's for procurement.
39:11Uh Department of Public Works.
39:17I will say there's about 50 of these things listed in it, just a real quick count.
39:23Um maybe the best course, again, I don't know, um, is maybe pick one or two for each of us, see how much work's involved, and then I think that's fair.
39:37You know, come back after we get the template, you know.
39:39If it's easy, which I doubt, um, you know, we could take on more, but um 50 is just a lot.
40:00Yeah, and the interplay of the not to jump around, but the interplay of the the the climate and energy action plan with the sustainability plan, that's not what it's called.
40:16The climate action plan, excuse me.
40:18Like I haven't done the work to match those up.
40:21Um I would imagine there's duplication, but yet, you know, I I I don't know.
40:28So we don't the the council really hasn't created a list of environmental priorities, to my knowledge, right?
40:37Like we haven't, but we have these plans that are in effect that Jenny has already presented on or recently presented on.
40:45So um I'm just tossing that out there too.
40:55I mean, if we're only taking one or two, I'll take Green Streets, the master plan for that in engineering.
41:02And then just looking down.
41:05Uh and a lot of these, like um the housing human health and services, they're talking about the CDPG program, the action plan, and the action plan doesn't have and the block grant plan, the two things are together, don't have a lot of goals.
41:28It's more how funding is allocated using the CDBG money, which is only like I think like 400,000.
41:37Um and that's done yearly.
41:40So I I don't know if there'd be a lot, I mean, in that as well, but uh about it.
41:48I would take uh out of the office of the mayor, uh the City of Frederick uh housing gap and future demand projections.
41:57Don't know what it is, but it sounds fun.
41:59Yeah, I didn't know that one even existed.
42:02Uh I think that's the one that we just were presented.
42:06So still a good project.
42:11I didn't realize it was called that.
42:17Yeah, back up in DPW, I can do uh the uh tree canopy.
42:26Peter, do you want the downtown circulator?
42:31I know that came back up during the campaign, but I don't know.
42:34That would be a good one.
42:35You want to should we look at that one?
42:38It it is come up since then as well.
42:42I didn't know there was a plan.
42:43I should I should have known there was a plan.
42:44I did not know there was a or at least I forgot there was a study.
42:49I don't know why that failed.
42:56So for baby steps, those those will be my two.
43:00Or that's sorry, that's a good idea.
43:04Okay, let me find more.
43:12What about the mobility and parking recommendations?
43:24Okay, I'll do the police department strategic plan.
43:35Oh, and the ad hoc charter review committee.
43:41Sorry, not charter review, the NAC committee.
43:45That's kind of a joke, but it is good.
43:50I think the strategic plan, the community plan 2030, we can probably leave alone.
43:57I'll take the uh I'll take the emergency operations plan as well.
44:15And then let's I'll add the parks and master parks and rec master plan just because that keeps coming up.
44:28Oh, and okay, one more and then I'll be done.
44:31The sites of enslavement.
44:33I know we I think we got I think we got grant dollars to do that.
44:39And I don't know, this might be an easy e inquiry.
44:43I don't know if the the cert the study was a predecessor to additional work or not.
44:47I or if we just got the grant for the study.
44:52So I think it might have been that we just got the grant for the study.
44:56But we can but there are recommendations in that in that.
45:00So what we'll do is we'll take this list and we'll put it on the agenda for you know like a month from now if that sounds good and we'll come back and just trade notes about what we found.
45:12Does that sound good?
45:15And then we have just kind of forecasting upcoming meetings, and and I'm looking, I'm just looking at my phone so I remember the dates.
45:22Uh we do not have a meeting next week because next week is the fifth Monday, so we have we're off next week.
45:28Then the following week, the 6th, we're gonna have uh a presentation on elections, another presentation on elections.
45:35We're gonna have uh we're gonna revisit the charter amendment.
45:38So I'm gonna bring we'll put together a list of all the charter amendments that we talked about.
45:42We're starting to get together um the concept of like on the concept of redistricting.
45:47We want to invite folks to come in and talk to us about that.
45:50Uh people that aren't in office right now to give presentations.
45:55Um the county might be a little busy.
45:57That's a little on the nose, sorry.
45:59But the county elections folks might be busy, so we're gonna be looking for potentially other experts to come in and just give us a presentation on what redistricting could look like.
46:07Um Clara, am I missing anything critical?
46:10That's so that's coming up.
46:11Oh, performance-based budgeting.
46:12And we'll get together a presentation for performance-based budgeting as well.
46:15Um so that is coming up.
46:17Are there any comments or questions for the group?
46:21Just one more that I wanted to add, Clara.
46:23Inventory atlas on our parks and rec.
46:28And uh should I pursue a speaker on open primaries?
46:34All right, and then this as part of that, because as you know, things get complicated quickly.
46:39Um we probably will need our city elections people to come and comment on this stuff as well.
46:47I will we'll make that request.
46:48Okay, I'll start looking for uh somebody to update us on open primaries.
46:52So by city elections people we mean Ms.
46:55Now we have the um we also have the uh commission, so see if they'll they're available.
47:00It might be a good idea to talk with them anyway because feedback I had about the last election was that we should consider maybe handling the in-person voting a little bit differently and just have those discussions as well.
47:12So you're right about that.
47:19Maybe like I mean I'm I'll ask this.
47:23Has anybody heard anything about a recap from the 2025 election?
47:31I don't I thought we the So I thought we did this in 2021.
47:37Wasn't there a re like a sort of a this is what went well, this is what lessons learned.
47:42That's the right way to say that.
47:45So almost like an after action, like this is what we learned.
47:47So if you we can add that to the, yeah.
47:53I'm wondering if the elections commission might have done that, and then they can just re bring their report to us.
48:04We got budget coming up, super exciting.
48:09Please don't rush the table.
48:13Well, if there's nothing else, we will be adjourned.
48:15Thank you very much.