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Historic Preservation Commission Meeting - February 23, 2023

Historic Preservation CommissionThursday, February 23, 2023
BodyFrederick, Maryland
SessionHistoric Preservation Commission
DateThursday, February 23, 2023
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5:03

Good evening.

5:04

I'd like to call, excuse me, I'd like to call the uh Thursday, February 23rd, 2023 meeting of the City of Frederick Historic Preservation Commissioned Order.

5:18

The technical qualifications of the Commission and the staff are on file with the City of Frederick and are made a part of each and every case before the Commission.

5:26

This Frederick City Historic Preservation Commission uses the guidelines adopted by the mayor and the board of Alderman and the Secretary of the Interior Standards for Rehabilitation published by the U.S.

5:37

Department of the Interior, National Park Service, and these guidelines are made a part of each and every case.

5:43

All cases were duly advertised in the Frederick News Post in accordance with Section 301 of the Land Management Code.

5:51

I'd like to move on next to introductions.

5:54

Beginning over on my left, the audience's right is the HPC's very able assistant, Shannon Piles.

6:06

Oh, excuse me, um, Commissioner Eva Sally.

6:10

Um I am uh uh Vice Chair Um Robert Van Rands, and I will be presiding this evening.

6:18

And then to my uh my right, the audience's left.

6:22

We have uh Commissioner Paul Fitzgerald and Commissioner Ann Hart, and then um Historic Preservation Planners Lisa Mrochek Murphy, Christina Martinkowski, um city attorney Michael Frye.

6:39

Ah and coming in just under the wire is uh pardon me, Commissioner Elizabeth Burns.

6:49

And uh not with us this evening is our Aldermanic liaison, Donna Kazamczek.

6:55

So um anyone who wishes to be heard this evening to speak on any of the any of the cases or any of the workshops, if you'd all rise and be sworn in.

7:08

Do you solemnly swear or affirm that the responses given and statements made in this hearing before the before the Historic Preservation Commission will be the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

7:19

If so, answer I do.

7:21

Thank you.

7:24

It is the purpose of the Historic Preservation Commission to safeguard the historical and cultural heritage of the City of Frederick by preserving sites, structures, or districts that reflect elements of the cultural, social, economic, political, archaeological, or architectural history to stabilize and improve property values of such sites, structures, or districts to foster civic beauty, to strengthen the local economy, and to promote the preservation appreciation of such sites, structures, and districts for the education and welfare of the city of the residents of the City of Frederick.

7:59

In order to be eligible to vote on an application, a commissioner must have made the required site visit and attended any and all meetings at which such an application was discussed.

8:09

In the event that a commissioner is absent from any such meeting, the commissioner may satisfy the attendance requirement by reviewing the record of that meeting.

8:24

That being said, are there any commissioners with statements of eligibility?

8:30

All right.

8:30

Hearing none, uh, let me check and see city staff.

8:33

Are there any announcements this evening?

8:37

A couple announcements.

8:39

Um usual reminder regarding the property tax credit.

8:43

The application deadline is April 1st, and that is for um expenditures that were incurred in 2022 for exterior preservation work.

8:51

We have the application forms available on our website.

8:54

There's also a brochure on the side table that will give you some more information and a link directly to the forms.

9:00

Um and the other announcement uh for me is that we um have added to uh under commission business.

9:06

We'll be requesting uh the commission's support to endorse a letter of support for a certified local government project grant from the Maryland Historical Trust.

9:16

Um and I can explain more about that at that time.

9:20

All right, thank you.

9:22

I also have one announcement.

9:24

I want to note that HPC 23-16, an application for demolition at 105 West 2nd Street, will not be heard tonight because of failure to meet public notice requirements, and I would want to apologize for any inconvenience caused by that.

9:40

All right, thank you.

9:45

Moving on to approval of minutes.

9:49

The minutes from the February 9th, 2023 hearing and workshop.

9:56

Um had a chance to look them over.

10:01

And does anyone have any questions or concerns regarding those minutes?

10:11

If not, do I have a motion?

10:17

I move that we approve the February 9th, 2023 hearing and workshop minutes.

10:24

I second.

10:26

All right.

10:27

Any discussion.

10:30

All right.

10:30

All in favor, please raise your hand.

10:34

All right.

10:34

And that passes unanimously.

10:36

Thank you.

10:41

All right.

10:42

And then moving on to HPC business and specifically the letter of support.

10:48

Okay.

10:49

Um thank you.

10:50

This um this grant application is due on Monday, and the city is is putting it forward for a project that's called Fredericktown Sites of the Enslaved Documentation and Interpretation Phase One.

11:03

Um I attached a project description, a brief project description, and an explanation about the partnership that the city would be forming with the African American Resources Cultural Heritage Society.

11:18

Um they have already submitted a letter of support for the project, and so um tonight we are asking for the commission to endorse a letter of support that would be sent to the Maryland Historical Trust.

11:29

Um, what you see attached in the second page, that's just a brief description just for the purposes of the commission to have an understanding of the project.

11:40

Um the complete grant application is being submitted in online form and it's going through extensive editing.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Historic Preservation█████████████████████████████████████████████65%
Urban Design████████12%
Site Plan Approval██████8%
Historic Preservation Commission████6%
Procedural██3%
Public Comment2%
Transportation Safety2%
Demolition Permits1%
Public Safety1%
Summary of Proceedings

The Frederick Historic Preservation Commission (HPC) met on Thursday, February 23, 2023, at 6:00 p.m. in City Hall, 101 North Court Street, for a public hearing and workshop, with Chair Robert Van Rens presiding. The commission approved previous minutes and a consent item, endorsed a letter of support for a Maryland Historical Trust grant, voted on two applications for 19 W. 2nd Street, denied a siding replacement at 241-243 E. 2nd Street, and held a workshop on proposed demolition and new construction at 105 W. 2nd Street. All motions passed unanimously.

Consent Calendar

  • Minutes: The draft hearing and workshop minutes from February 9, 2023, were approved unanimously.
  • HPC23-117 - 50 Carroll Creek Way: Rehabilitation application by South Market Condo Assoc., LLC, was approved unanimously on the consent agenda, with no public comment or objection.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • HPC23-16 / HPC23-17 workshop - Peter Samuels (neighbor): Samuels supported demolition of the existing garage at 105 W. 2nd Street, stating it was "structurally shot" and not worth a full renovation, though he disputed parts of the engineer's report (e.g., bay sizes and foundation description). He strongly opposed the proposed new garage design, calling it a "suburban/rural McMansion developer type" building that is incompatible with nearby historic garages and carriage houses, and urged a design more like the area's carriage houses. He also asked for an unbuilt strip to preserve possible future shared parking.
  • Neighbor emails: The applicant stated that several neighbors had emailed in support of the garage demolition, citing safety concerns.

Discussion Items

  • HPC business - Grant support letter: Staff requested the commission's endorsement of a letter to the Maryland Historical Trust supporting the city's "Fredericktown Sites of the Enslaved Documentation and Interpretation Phase One" grant application, developed in partnership with the African American Resources Cultural Heritage Society. Commissioners expressed strong support and unanimously voted to endorse sending the letter.
  • HPC23-65 - 19 W. 2nd Street (partial demolition): Staff recommended approval of demolition of the second-floor frame screen wall, frame porch closet, and a roughly 4-by-8-foot second-floor brick wall for a new stair enclosure, but recommended denial of converting a first-floor window opening into a door. Applicant Ben Bates (Bates Architects) argued the door was needed for rear access and interior layout and involved only about nine square feet of brick, with the historic header and window width retained and the window relocated. Several commissioners agreed the rear-facing location and minimal impact justified approval. The commission voted unanimously to approve the application as presented by the applicant, thereby allowing the first-floor brick opening.
  • HPC23-66 - 19 W. 2nd Street (rehabilitation & addition): Staff recommended approval of the replacement plan, including infill of existing openings, enclosure of the second-floor porch stairs, relocation of a window/door, and other work, with the condition that second-floor porch work be limited to selective in-kind decking and post replacement and that the historic porch railing be retained. The applicant agreed not to replace undamaged railing and to return for approval if additional damage was found. The commission approved items 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9, with the porch-work limitation, thereby excluding the request to replace the historic porch railing.
  • HPC23-68 - 241-243 E. 2nd Street (siding replacement): The applicant, Brian Gilbert (co-owner, Sunshine Properties), sought to replace traditional wood German lap siding with James Hardie cementitious siding. Staff and commissioner site visits found severe paint deterioration but no widespread siding decay. Staff cited guidelines that require wood siding on historically wood-clad buildings and explicitly prohibit cementitious siding in rehabilitations. The commission voted unanimously to deny the application.
  • Workshop - HPC23-16 (105 W. 2nd Street demolition): The six-bay garage, built between 1930 and 1947, was discussed as a contributing resource, although not of unusual importance. A structural engineer's report found undersized and decayed components, no footings under most of the building, and concluded the building was "less than adequate for use as a garage or shed." Staff noted the garage retained its original form and front facade. Commissioners discussed whether its structural deficiencies outweighed its contributing status and whether demolition criteria such as public safety and substandard construction were met. No formal action was taken; a site visit and possible contributing-resource vote were discussed for the March 9, 2023 HPC meeting.
  • Workshop - HPC23-17 (105 W. 2nd Street new construction): Ben Bates presented a proposed four-bay, one-and-a-half-story garage (about 22.5 feet tall at the ridge, with the ridge set back 13 feet from the facade and the eave line 24 inches lower than the existing garage). Staff and several commissioners raised concerns that the massing, height, roof form, and residential-style porch made the building read as a house or suburban structure and would dominate the streetscape, which features smaller one-to-two-story garages and carriage houses. Some commissioners suggested simplifying the front, reducing the building depth by one foot, lowering the roof pitch, and reconsidering the side porch. One commissioner defended the design as compatible and well-proportioned. No vote was taken; the applicant agreed to consider revisions, and staff set a March 13, 2023, 11:00 a.m. submission deadline for updated plans.

Key Outcomes

  • Approved February 9, 2023, hearing and workshop minutes (unanimous).
  • Endorsed a letter of support for the Maryland Historical Trust grant for the "Fredericktown Sites of the Enslaved" project (unanimous).
  • Approved HPC23-117 (50 Carroll Creek Way) on consent (unanimous).
  • Approved HPC23-65 (19 W. 2nd Street) partial demolition as presented by the applicant (unanimous), allowing the contested first-floor window-to-door conversion.
  • Approved HPC23-66 (19 W. 2nd Street) rehabilitation and addition with conditions (unanimous), including retention of the historic porch railing.
  • Denied HPC23-68 (241-243 E. 2nd Street) James Hardie cementitious siding replacement (unanimous).
  • HPC23-16 demolition and HPC23-17 new construction at 105 W. 2nd Street were workshop-only items; no votes were taken. The demolition application was expected to return for a contributing-resource determination at the March 9, 2023 HPC meeting, and updated new-construction plans were due by March 13, 2023, at 11:00 a.m.

Meeting Transcript

Good evening. I'd like to call, excuse me, I'd like to call the uh Thursday, February 23rd, 2023 meeting of the City of Frederick Historic Preservation Commissioned Order. The technical qualifications of the Commission and the staff are on file with the City of Frederick and are made a part of each and every case before the Commission. This Frederick City Historic Preservation Commission uses the guidelines adopted by the mayor and the board of Alderman and the Secretary of the Interior Standards for Rehabilitation published by the U.S. Department of the Interior, National Park Service, and these guidelines are made a part of each and every case. All cases were duly advertised in the Frederick News Post in accordance with Section 301 of the Land Management Code. I'd like to move on next to introductions. Beginning over on my left, the audience's right is the HPC's very able assistant, Shannon Piles. Oh, excuse me, um, Commissioner Eva Sally. Um I am uh uh Vice Chair Um Robert Van Rands, and I will be presiding this evening. And then to my uh my right, the audience's left. We have uh Commissioner Paul Fitzgerald and Commissioner Ann Hart, and then um Historic Preservation Planners Lisa Mrochek Murphy, Christina Martinkowski, um city attorney Michael Frye. Ah and coming in just under the wire is uh pardon me, Commissioner Elizabeth Burns. And uh not with us this evening is our Aldermanic liaison, Donna Kazamczek. So um anyone who wishes to be heard this evening to speak on any of the any of the cases or any of the workshops, if you'd all rise and be sworn in. Do you solemnly swear or affirm that the responses given and statements made in this hearing before the before the Historic Preservation Commission will be the whole truth and nothing but the truth? If so, answer I do. Thank you. It is the purpose of the Historic Preservation Commission to safeguard the historical and cultural heritage of the City of Frederick by preserving sites, structures, or districts that reflect elements of the cultural, social, economic, political, archaeological, or architectural history to stabilize and improve property values of such sites, structures, or districts to foster civic beauty, to strengthen the local economy, and to promote the preservation appreciation of such sites, structures, and districts for the education and welfare of the city of the residents of the City of Frederick. In order to be eligible to vote on an application, a commissioner must have made the required site visit and attended any and all meetings at which such an application was discussed. In the event that a commissioner is absent from any such meeting, the commissioner may satisfy the attendance requirement by reviewing the record of that meeting. That being said, are there any commissioners with statements of eligibility? All right. Hearing none, uh, let me check and see city staff. Are there any announcements this evening? A couple announcements. Um usual reminder regarding the property tax credit. The application deadline is April 1st, and that is for um expenditures that were incurred in 2022 for exterior preservation work. We have the application forms available on our website. There's also a brochure on the side table that will give you some more information and a link directly to the forms. Um and the other announcement uh for me is that we um have added to uh under commission business. We'll be requesting uh the commission's support to endorse a letter of support for a certified local government project grant from the Maryland Historical Trust. Um and I can explain more about that at that time. All right, thank you. I also have one announcement. I want to note that HPC 23-16, an application for demolition at 105 West 2nd Street, will not be heard tonight because of failure to meet public notice requirements, and I would want to apologize for any inconvenience caused by that. All right, thank you. Moving on to approval of minutes. The minutes from the February 9th, 2023 hearing and workshop. Um had a chance to look them over. And does anyone have any questions or concerns regarding those minutes? If not, do I have a motion? I move that we approve the February 9th, 2023 hearing and workshop minutes. I second. All right. Any discussion. All right. All in favor, please raise your hand. All right. And that passes unanimously.

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