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Frederick Historic Preservation Commission Hearing/Workshop - April 24, 2025

Historic Preservation CommissionThursday, April 24, 2025
BodyFrederick, Maryland
SessionHistoric Preservation Commission
DateThursday, April 24, 2025
StatusFILED
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Transcript — Verbatim
3:25

Good evening.

3:26

Welcome to the Thursday, April 24th, twenty twenty-five, Frederick City Historic Preservation Commission hearing workshop.

3:35

The technical qualifications of the Commission and staff are on file with the City of Frederick and are made a part of each and every case before the Commission.

3:55

And these guidelines are made a part of each and every case.

5:02

If so, answer I do.

5:04

All right, thank you.

5:05

Please be seated.

5:11

It is the purpose of the Historic Preservation Commission to safeguard the historical and cultural heritage of the City of Frederick by preserving sites, structures, or districts that reflect elements of cultural, social, economic, political, archaeological, or architectural history to stabilize and improve property values of such sites, structures, or districts, to foster civic beauty, to strengthen the local economy, and to promote the preservation and appreciation of such sites, structures, and districts for the education and welfare of the residents of the City of Frederick.

5:41

In order to be eligible to vote on an application, a commissioner must have made the required site visit and attended any and all meetings at which such an application was discussed.

5:51

In the event that a commissioner is absent from any such meeting, the commissioner may satisfy the attendance requirement by reviewing the record of that meeting.

5:59

It is presumed if the commissioner makes no statement at this time that they have done so and are prepared to vote on the agenda this evening.

6:05

That being said, are there any commissioners with statements of eligibility?

6:11

All right, seeing none, um staff any uh announcements this evening.

6:19

Yes, there are several announcements.

6:21

Um first, some sad news.

6:25

I received written notification today that one of our commission members, Alyssa Fortune, will be resigning from the HPC and that this will be her last meeting.

6:34

I want to acknowledge my appreciation for Ms.

6:36

Fortune's dedication to the Commission.

6:39

It takes a great deal of time and effort and care to serve on the HPC and Ms.

6:45

Fortune's experience and historic preservation has been a huge asset to the city.

6:50

Thank you so much for your service, and I truly hope that we will have an opportunity to work together in the future again.

6:57

Thank you.

6:59

Also, on a later note, um, April is archaeology month uh for the state of Maryland, and the HPC is pleased to host our annual digging local speaking event, which will be held April 28th at the CIBR Arts Library at 7:30.

7:16

We have two amazing speakers uh coming in to talk about local archaeological uh investigations that um are really fascinating.

7:24

So please join us.

7:27

Also, um phase one of the city's sites of enslavement initiative is coming to a close, and the final draft of the historic context report documenting for the first time the lives of enslaved people in downtown Frederick before emancipation and the institution of slavery on the local level is being finalized.

7:48

Please join us on May 12th at 6 p.m.

7:51

at Visit Frederick to hear directly from the historians who have rediscovered our long ignored history.

7:59

Thank you.

8:05

Thank you.

8:08

Moving on to approval of minutes from the April 10th, 2025 hearing and workshop.

8:18

Commissioners, any uh requests for um additions or concerns about the contents of those minutes.

8:36

No, sir.

8:38

And I would like to make a motion that we approve both the hearing and workshop minutes from April 10th, 2025.

8:46

I'll second.

8:48

All right.

8:49

Any further discussion?

8:52

All in favor, please raise your hand.

8:55

That passes unanimously.

8:57

Thank you.

8:59

Moving on to HPC business uh certification of the 2024 report on historic preservation property tax credits and recommendation to the director of finance group two.

9:12

Yes, thank you.

9:13

I'd like to enter my memo and um associated documents into the record.

9:18

Um staff will be submitting the 2024 Historic Preservation Property Tax Credit Applications to the Historic Preservation Commission for certification in multiple groups.

9:28

This is the second group.

9:30

The commission previously certified nine applications at their April 10th meeting in accordance with section 810 of City Code.

9:39

This second batch of applications are comprised of seven applications and it includes an investment amount of over uh 110,000 dollars and a recommended credit amount of 23,000 dollars and seventy-four dollars and ninety cents.

10:00

A detailed summary and photographs are attached, and staff requests that the commission review and certify the attached recommendations.

10:04

Staff will forward the results to the director of finance and the remaining applications will be submitted for certification at a subsequent hearing.

10:14

And I'll take any questions if there are any.

10:28

Excuse me, the uh recommendation of the director of finance.

10:33

No questions, sir.

10:35

I'm prepared to make a motion now.

10:38

I move that we certify group two of the 2024 report of historic preservation property tax credits as submitted.

10:52

I second the motion.

10:53

All right.

10:54

Any further discussion.

10:57

All in favor, please raise your hand.

11:00

All right, that passes unanimously.

11:02

Thank you.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Historic Preservation█████████████████████████████████████████████54%
Public Safety████████████14%
Building Codes███████8%
Architectural Design██████7%
Procedural████5%
Demolition Permits████5%
Public Comment███4%
Historic Preservation Commission1%
Public Works1%
Summary of Proceedings

Frederick Historic Preservation Commission Hearing/Workshop - April 24, 2025

The Frederick Historic Preservation Commission (HPC) held a joint hearing and workshop on April 24, 2025, at 6:00 PM at City Hall. The meeting covered two demolition applications, a post-installation approval for vents and cameras, a contributing resource determination, and a workshop item for a rehabilitation project. Commissioners voted to approve demolition of both a dwelling and garage at 127 E. Sixth Street, finding them an imminent danger to public safety, and approved the post-installation of vents and cameras at 191 W. All Saints Street. The meeting also included announcements, approval of minutes, certification of tax credits, and a workshop on the rehabilitation of the Elks building at 173 W. All Saints Street.

Announcements

  • Staff announced the resignation of Commissioner Alyssa Fortune, effective this meeting, with appreciation for her service.
  • April is Archaeology Month in Maryland; the HPC will host its annual "Digging Local" speaking event on April 28, 2025, at 7:30 PM at C. Burr Artz Library.
  • Phase one of the City's Sites of Enslavement initiative is concluding; a final draft historic context report will be presented on May 12, 2025, at 6 PM at Visit Frederick.

Approval of Minutes

  • The minutes from the April 10, 2025, hearing and workshop were approved unanimously.

HPC Business – Certification of 2024 Historic Preservation Property Tax Credits (Group II)

  • Staff presented the second group of seven applications, involving an investment amount of over $110,000 and a recommended credit amount of $23,074.90.
  • The commission certified the recommendations unanimously.

Consent Calendar

  • No items were presented.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • On HPC24-702 (127 E. Sixth Street demolition): Multiple neighbors and community members spoke in opposition to demolition, citing the property's historic significance, the lack of a detailed replacement plan, concerns about the structural engineer's report (questioning its thoroughness and the engineer's expertise in historic buildings), and the impact on the neighborhood's character. Some urged the HPC to defer the vote and seek a second opinion from an engineer specializing in historic structures. Frederick County Landmarks Foundation, through board president Jenny Russell, requested a deferral for additional analysis. One tenant still living in the building was noted; the owner stated they were actively working to relocate him.
  • On HPC25-66 (191 W. All Saints Street): No public comments.
  • On HPC25-67 (200 E. Patrick Street): No public comments.
  • Citizen Comment (general): No public comments.

Discussion Items

Continuance – HPC24-702: 127 E. Sixth Street – Demolition of Dwelling and Garage

  • Staff presented a structural engineer's report (by Elarraza Shabazz of Tate Shabazz & Associates) concluding that both the dwelling and garage are structurally deficient, with inadequate foundations, termite and moisture damage, and in danger of collapse. The report recommended immediate vacation and condemnation.
  • The owner, Deanna Versol (DMR Enterprises), testified that after receiving the report, they immediately notified tenants and relocated two of three, with the third actively seeking new housing. The owner argued that the structures pose an imminent danger to public safety and that retention would cause undue economic hardship.
  • Attorney Paul Rose argued that the structural engineer's report, which is undisputed expert evidence, demonstrates both structures are an imminent danger and that retention would cause economic hardship. He noted that the city's building code official and public works director inspected the property on April 7, 2025, and that their findings informed staff's recommendation for demolition.
  • Commissioners questioned the structural engineer about the foundation, the distinction between the main house and rear additions, and the feasibility of partial demolition. The engineer stated that the main building's foundation is rubble and that the structural systems cannot be repaired; they would need replacement, which is not feasible due to the building's condition. Staff clarified that the garage, due to lack of foundation and deterioration, is a danger to public safety.
  • The replacement plan (from a prior workshop) consists of eight townhouses along the alleyway, but that plan was not formally before the commission for approval at this hearing.

HPC25-66: 191 W. All Saints Street – Post-Installation Approval for Vents and Security Cameras

  • Staff recommended approval of 16 vents (12 on the west elevation facing South Bend Street, 4 on the east) and three security cameras, with conditions that the two remaining cameras be installed in mortar joints. The vents were found to be in a highly visible location but no viable alternative existed; the cameras were acceptable.
  • The applicant (Samuel Oztan, agent) explained that the vents were required by code, and the cameras are needed for security. The vents are colored to match the brick. The applicant agreed to install remaining cameras into mortar joints.
  • Commissioners noted that the vents blended well and commended the applicant for restoring the building. The motion to approve with conditions passed unanimously.

HPC25-67: 200 E. Patrick Street – Partial Demolition and Determination of Contributing Resource

  • Staff presented that the building (built 1904-1911 as a trolley terminal, later a newspaper headquarters) was previously found to be a contributing resource. The proposed partial demolition includes removal of an areaway, stoop, roof structure, and chimney. The replacement plan is addressed in a separate application (HPC25-68).
  • The applicant (Clifford Bates, agent) agreed with staff's recommendation. The commission voted unanimously to find the building a contributing resource.

Key Outcomes

  • HPC24-702 (127 E. Sixth Street): The commission voted unanimously to approve demolition of the garage, contingent on approval of a replacement plan. A second motion to approve demolition of the dwelling (Winchester House), also contingent on a replacement plan, passed unanimously. Both votes were based on the structure being an imminent danger to public safety and welfare.
  • HPC25-66 (191 W. All Saints Street): Approved unanimously with conditions: the two remaining security cameras shall be installed into mortar joints.
  • HPC25-67 (200 E. Patrick Street): The building was found to be a contributing resource to the historic district, unanimously.

Workshop Agenda – HPC25-72: 173 W. All Saints Street – Rehabilitation (Mountain City Elks #382)

  • The applicant, Blaine Young (representing the Elks), presented a $160,000 facade restoration project including a new front door (paired six-panel wood door), intercom/card reader, handrail, cornice repairs, window reglazing, masonry repairs, gutters, and basement window covers. Staff provided feedback on the door design, product specifications, and the need for more detailed drawings and product literature. The next resubmission deadline is May 12, 2025, for the May 22 hearing. The project aims to be completed by August 24, 2025, for the Elks' annual parade.

Meeting Transcript

Good evening. Welcome to the Thursday, April 24th, twenty twenty-five, Frederick City Historic Preservation Commission hearing workshop. The technical qualifications of the Commission and staff are on file with the City of Frederick and are made a part of each and every case before the Commission. And these guidelines are made a part of each and every case. If so, answer I do. All right, thank you. Please be seated. It is the purpose of the Historic Preservation Commission to safeguard the historical and cultural heritage of the City of Frederick by preserving sites, structures, or districts that reflect elements of cultural, social, economic, political, archaeological, or architectural history to stabilize and improve property values of such sites, structures, or districts, to foster civic beauty, to strengthen the local economy, and to promote the preservation and appreciation of such sites, structures, and districts for the education and welfare of the residents of the City of Frederick. In order to be eligible to vote on an application, a commissioner must have made the required site visit and attended any and all meetings at which such an application was discussed. In the event that a commissioner is absent from any such meeting, the commissioner may satisfy the attendance requirement by reviewing the record of that meeting. It is presumed if the commissioner makes no statement at this time that they have done so and are prepared to vote on the agenda this evening. That being said, are there any commissioners with statements of eligibility? All right, seeing none, um staff any uh announcements this evening. Yes, there are several announcements. Um first, some sad news. I received written notification today that one of our commission members, Alyssa Fortune, will be resigning from the HPC and that this will be her last meeting. I want to acknowledge my appreciation for Ms. Fortune's dedication to the Commission. It takes a great deal of time and effort and care to serve on the HPC and Ms. Fortune's experience and historic preservation has been a huge asset to the city. Thank you so much for your service, and I truly hope that we will have an opportunity to work together in the future again. Thank you. Also, on a later note, um, April is archaeology month uh for the state of Maryland, and the HPC is pleased to host our annual digging local speaking event, which will be held April 28th at the CIBR Arts Library at 7:30. We have two amazing speakers uh coming in to talk about local archaeological uh investigations that um are really fascinating. So please join us. Also, um phase one of the city's sites of enslavement initiative is coming to a close, and the final draft of the historic context report documenting for the first time the lives of enslaved people in downtown Frederick before emancipation and the institution of slavery on the local level is being finalized. Please join us on May 12th at 6 p.m. at Visit Frederick to hear directly from the historians who have rediscovered our long ignored history. Thank you. Thank you. Moving on to approval of minutes from the April 10th, 2025 hearing and workshop. Commissioners, any uh requests for um additions or concerns about the contents of those minutes. No, sir. And I would like to make a motion that we approve both the hearing and workshop minutes from April 10th, 2025. I'll second. All right. Any further discussion? All in favor, please raise your hand. That passes unanimously. Thank you. Moving on to HPC business uh certification of the 2024 report on historic preservation property tax credits and recommendation to the director of finance group two. Yes, thank you. I'd like to enter my memo and um associated documents into the record. Um staff will be submitting the 2024 Historic Preservation Property Tax Credit Applications to the Historic Preservation Commission for certification in multiple groups. This is the second group. The commission previously certified nine applications at their April 10th meeting in accordance with section 810 of City Code. This second batch of applications are comprised of seven applications and it includes an investment amount of over uh 110,000 dollars and a recommended credit amount of 23,000 dollars and seventy-four dollars and ninety cents. A detailed summary and photographs are attached, and staff requests that the commission review and certify the attached recommendations. Staff will forward the results to the director of finance and the remaining applications will be submitted for certification at a subsequent hearing. And I'll take any questions if there are any.

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