Gilbert Town Council Study Session – December 16, 2025
Gilbert Town Council Study Session – December 16, 2025
This study session of the Gilbert Town Council, held on December 16, 2025, at 23:28 UTC, covered two main agenda items: a presentation on pipe materials used in the sewer system and a presentation on water and solid waste recycling rate pressures. The council heard from staff and two public speakers, but deferred completion of the water rate discussion to the subsequent council meeting.
Public Comments & Testimony
- Jeremy (clay pipe industry representative): Presented arguments favoring vitrified clay pipe, citing its longevity (over 100 years), inert nature, and environmental concerns about PVC (including microplastics and toxic additives). He referenced cities like New York, Philadelphia, and Phoenix that use clay pipe exclusively, and claimed a 100-year warranty versus PVC’s typical 11-month warranty.
- James Ashley (Home Builders Association of Central Arizona): Expressed support for staff’s assessment favoring PVC pipe. He noted PVC’s durability, cost-effectiveness, and ease of installation, and cited Maricopa Association of Governments (MAG) standards specifying PVC for gravity sewers.
Discussion Items
- Pipe Materials Presentation: Ken Snow (Public Works Assistant Director) reviewed three pipe materials: vitrified clay pipe (VCP), polyvinyl chloride (PVC), and ductile iron (DIP). Key points:
- VCP is brittle, has shorter laying lengths, and more joints leading to root intrusion, but is corrosion resistant. It requires special inspections and more complex repairs.
- PVC is lighter, easier to handle, has lower upfront installation costs, and smoother interior aiding flow. PVC has not yet completed a full life cycle but is projected to last 80–100 years. The town’s system is predominantly PVC.
- Ductile iron is used in structural applications (e.g., under highways) but is prone to corrosion and most expensive. Staff prefers CIPP lining for new installations.
- Staff noted that VCP would not have prevented recent ductile iron force main failures, as those were in pressure applications where clay cannot be used or under highways where DIP is required.
- Council members asked about cost differentials, life cycle data, and the rationale for requiring engineering approval for VCP (town practice, under review). Councilmember Lyons questioned the contradiction between PVC’s “new material” disadvantage and claimed lower long-term maintenance. Councilmember Buckland expressed concern about continued use of ductile iron given past failures; staff clarified replacement will use HDPE or other materials.
- Solid Waste Rate Pressures Presentation: Isaiah Scarcio Romero (Solid Waste and Recycling Manager) presented drivers for rate increases:
- Vehicle replacement costs have risen 87% since 2020 (now ~$525,000 per truck). One-third of residential fleet (13 vehicles) is past its 7-year useful life, causing high repair/maintenance costs (up 301% since 2020).
- Landfill tipping fees have increased 78% since 2020, from $3.8 million annual to $5.5 million. Average household generates 2,079 pounds of trash per year (13% more than regional average).
- Recycling market volatility: average net cost per ton to recycle over five years is $18.08; landfill cost per ton is $30.97. Diversion rate is below average; glass recycling program (drop-off) saves money and earns rebates.
- Proposed residential rate increase: 2% revenue increase (e.g., $0.55/month for standard 90-gallon service). Commercial: 20% revenue increase (e.g., $12.45/month for a standard container service). No further increases assumed through FY2030, contingent on stable conditions.
- Councilmember Buckland questioned high trash generation; staff noted household size differences (Gilbert ~3 vs. Mesa ~2.5) partially explain the comparison. Councilmember Lyons asked about inflation and phasing; staff noted some inflation built in but landfill cost escalation may require future adjustment.
Key Outcomes
- No formal votes were taken; the study session was informational.
- The council decided to postpone the water rate presentation to the council meeting scheduled to begin immediately after the study session.
- Staff will provide cost differential data for pipe materials as requested by Mayor Anderson.
- The town will proceed with a third-party water meter audit (Kimley Horn) with preliminary findings in March 2026, as part of transparency efforts.
- A battery drop-off pilot program is anticipated by March 2026 to improve safe disposal of lithium-ion batteries.
Meeting Transcript
A BF eight XE slash K four AE five P L H P X underscore O'Hyphen R six two eight underscore GW slash editing. I think we're we're ready to start the study session. December sixteenth, two thousand twenty-five. Mayor Scott Anderson here. Vice Mayor Bobby Buckley. Council Member Kenny Bucklin here. Council Member Young Kaprowski. Here. Councilmember Monty Lyons. And Councilmember Jim Torgeson. Aquorum is present. Thank you. We have uh two agenda items. The first one is presentation on utilization of different pipe materials in our sewer system. Staff presentation. Mayor, Vice Mayor, Council, Senior Council staff. Turn your microphone on, Ken. How many times have I seen some people come up here and not turn the microphone on? And then I'm the guy that did it. Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Council, Senior Town Staff. My name is Ken Snow. I'm your public works assistant director. I'm here to present on a review of a couple of pipe materials that we use in our wastewater collection system. I have two demonstrations that our wastewater team has brought forward for you to see today. I invite you, without hurting yourself to try to lift a couple of them just to check them out. We have some lighter uh portions and samples here just for your use and familiar familiarization with the material. Um as an introduction, there's three primary materials we use. There are a couple of them more, but for today's discussion, we're discussing VCP or vitrified clay pipe, as well as PVC or polyvinyl chloride pipe and ductile iron pipe. We sometimes refer to it in the business as DIP for whatever reason we don't call it dip pipe, but it's uh we call it DIP. And so we're going to discuss the advantages and disadvantages of these pipe materials and how we use them in our wastewater collection system. And we'll start off with clay pipe. Literally hundreds of hundreds of years old, probably started off in the bronze age. It's effectively pottery. So we take clay, we fire it, the exterior of that clay is chemically similar to glass. Um but as you know, glass is brittle, and clay pipe uh is like pottery. It is it is brittle. So it is difficult to work with. Um there is they come in shorter laying length, so the actual length of the pipe that you can purchase it in is shorter than um more modern materials. That shorter length means that you have more bell and spigots, more bell and spigots is more opportunity for root intrusion. Those comp those repairs can tend to be a little bit more complicated. You can see some creative repairs there on a piece of uh pipe there on the bottom left-hand corner of the uh photos there, uh wrapping it in or resin as well as concrete repairs as well as these are fern coplings you see on the right hand side there. The advantage of this material, it is heavy, it is brittle, it is short in length. Um, it is corrosion resistant, it has great corrosion resistance in wastewater applications. Modern materials like PVC do have some disadvantages too, and one of them is there's an unknown out there. PVC has not lasted through an entire life cycle yet. Um it has a very similar life as what we anticipate, um, but it has a longer laying length and therefore fewer bells and spigots. Um, and it is a semi-rigid pipe. It it can handle handling during construction a little bit easier than clay pipe can, as well as the compaction effort that fall uh that follows on top and around the pipe when we when we bury it. It is similarly resistant to corrosion. Umert in the in the in the presence of those wastewater gases.
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