Aloha and good morning, everyone.

It is 10 02 a.m.

on Tuesday, September 22, 2026, and I call the committee on budget meeting to order.

I'd like to welcome joining us in the chamber committee vice chair Nishimoto and Council Members Cordero and Kia Aina.

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Chair, there are none.

Thank you.

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Okay, we will not like to welcome joining us from the Honolulu police department.

I have here Captain Arnold Seguccio.

Good morning, Captain Segucio.

Good morning, uh Chair Okamoro and Vice Chair Nishimoro and the distinguished council members.

I'm Captain Arnold Sugusu, representing the Honolulu Police Department, Records and Identification Division.

Also in attendance is Major Carlin Lau of the Requisant Identification Division and Assistant Chief L Jan Rquera of the Support Services Bureau.

And yes, we are requesting the transfer of $300,000 from our support services activity, our current expenses uh over to the equipment uh character of expenditure for fiscal year 2027 to replace the Idemia legacy uh fingerprinting system.

I yield back the rest of my time and take any questions if they're thank you.

Members, any questions for Captain Segucio?

Captain, can you just quickly explain the lifespan of these um we're replacing a current fingerprinting machine, correct?

Is this the actual machine and software or one or the other or both?

Yes, it's a total system upgrade uh in regards to nine machines.

Uh the lifespan of these machines are 10 years.

Uh so we had purchased these back in the year of fiscal year 2018-2019.

So we were at the seven-year mark.

Uh, with that regard with the advent of um increased software production AI upgrades in Microsoft, uh, you know, these and these software types are growing exponentially every nine months.

Uh, it kind of surpassed the lifespan.

It kind of shortened the lifespan of these machines.

Okay, thank you.

But with this new one and the newer technology, will it then have 10 years also?

Or we are gonna be looking at this sooner than 10 years?

So, with that being expected, um, we we only can assume that it's gonna be 10 years.

However, uh, we put in some mitigating situations to to make sure that we uh don't come into the situation once again.

Uh so we're gonna be checking it at at the six-year mark due to the fact that AI and and the software technology is increasing and is moving very, very progressively.

Okay, thank you so much.

Councilmember Cordero.

Thank you.

Hi, Captain Sacusio, thank you very much for being here.

Um, I was wondering about um if is it is it a contract with a software program and do you have a coordinator with that contract?

And if so, are they the ones recommending updating or upgrading the software within the seven years?

Or is this based off of um just use?

Oh, thank you for that question.

So, with with that regard, um the situation is so we have a support and maintenance contract with Idemia.

Um, it's paid out every year.

So we we have it, we have it budgeted.

However, um the people that manage our contract on the company and the people in RD that control the equipment are in two separate divisions.

So one is telling us that it needs a software upgrade, the other just recently told us that we need to update the hardware because it the software will not be compatible with the hardware eventually further down the road.

And are there plans to combine those staff to then be within one division uh so that you know they can communicate better together?

So, with regards to Idemia, it's two totally different divisions.