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Hudson City Council Workshop – August 27, 2024

City Council — Tuesday, August 27, 2024
BodyHudson, Ohio
SessionCity Council
DateTuesday, August 27, 2024
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0:04

I'd like to call this meeting to order.

0:06

This is a duly notice workshop meeting of Hudson City Council held in accordance with the Sunshine Laws of the State of Ohio, Section 121.22 for Tuesday, August 27th, 2024.

0:19

Per ordinance 220.031 titled Workshop Meetings and Item C.

0:24

I would now like to turn the meeting over to Council President Foster so as to continue through the remaining workshop agenda items.

0:30

Council President Foster, the floor and workshop meeting is yours.

0:33

Thank you very much.

0:34

We will start out with section two, which is correspondence and council comments.

0:39

If there are any council members that have correspondence or comments to provide to the public, please get my attention and I will call your the floor to you uh to you to speak.

0:52

Um two brief comments and one will just be a summary.

0:54

I've heard a lot from a lot of folks.

0:56

I'm looking forward to apparently hearing from more folks about sidewalks.

1:01

I think um it's important to know that we're listening and that we have to compile all the information, all the opinions from a lot of varying perspectives, right?

1:11

So I I think even if your individual question isn't answered tonight, just keep in mind that we are trying to put it all together in the decisions that we're making.

1:20

Um that that's what I wanted to say about sidewalks was thank you for sharing, it helps a great deal.

1:26

And the second was I had the opportunity to uh walk downtown with one of our visually impaired residents, somebody who's considered legally blind now, and was walking the route that they get just to use downtown.

1:39

I know we've talked about safety, et cetera, crosswalks, and we had some vigorous debate about the blinking yellow lights, which scare some people who can't see to death because they are not consistently stopped at.

1:52

So whereas I'm not advocating to do this with all of them, I would like to add later in our future agenda items discussing a hawk signal, something I brought up with Brad when we were talking about the flashing yellow lights down for that intersection next to the clock tower because I I think it does provide a safe route for somebody who's visually impaired, not just the convenience of stopping traffic, but the confidence that traffic is stopped at that critical infrastructure or intersection.

2:21

And that's all I've got for today.

2:24

Comments?

2:29

I do have uh one comment.

2:31

Um I do want to correct some misinformation that has come to my attention with regard to the city's existing lease for storage space at City Hall with the Western Reserve Community Band.

2:42

I was contacted by one of the band members and then later later spoke directly with the band's president.

2:48

The member asked me why the city was not going to renew their lease for storage of their music files and equipment at City Hall.

2:55

The member further stated that this was a fact and that this information was communicated to the band by several prominent people.

3:02

And for reference, the community ban is currently in year two of their lease, and they have an option to apply for a third year, which will cover all of 2025.

3:12

But the ban has yet to submit their application for year three.

3:16

As such, the city has not taken a position because there is no application to review, and approval of an application for a year three option only requires the city manager's signature.

3:28

So I'm concerned that very specific misinformation has been circulating with regard to the process and determination of city lease agreements, and I am bringing this forward today so as to correct the record and clarify the misinformation for both the band and the community.

3:43

Thank you.

3:44

That's all.

3:46

Other comments, Dr.

3:49

Getz.

3:50

Yeah, my understanding is that when leases are not when they're finished, they won't be renewed.

3:57

That was what was brought up when we talked to the um destination Hudson.

4:04

So my um, and and I'm the one that talked because I'm a member of the band, is I had said when the lease is up, and they were not sure when the lease was up, but I said my understanding is that's what the council had decided.

4:18

Um, but hopefully we can change that um because we've been talking about that.

4:23

So I'm sorry if the band member misunderstood me.

4:26

Um I did not say that their lease was up.

4:29

I said when it is up.

4:31

My understanding is it won't be renewed unless the council makes some different opinion about it.

4:40

I would like to respond to that.

4:41

And that's why I did my due diligence, uh, Councilor Getz, because uh the president of the band and that member were asking me to look into those details and find out what was going on.

4:51

So again, I felt it was my duty to look into that.

4:54

I reviewed the lease.

4:56

I got the copy of the lease from uh uh the city manager's office.

5:00

I talked to additional people to find out how does the legislation that was passed almost two years ago apply to this, confirmed with Mr.

5:06

Sheridan that um all the ban has to do is apply for a third-year lease, which is in um all of the documentation.

5:15

So if there was that misinformation out there, um people were coming to me very passionately, and I did not want that to reflect poorly upon the city or this council or the city and the staff.

5:26

So um that's why I did my due diligence to correct that.

5:29

Uh thank you for helping understand how this process happened, and hopefully everybody is on the same page now.

5:36

So thank you.

5:38

Uh my comments um I don't understand why we're just finding out that you had made the announcement now.

5:45

I emailed you last week asking if you had made the announcement to the band because the the announcement and the feedback that we received from the band was this was factual, this was the case.

5:59

The mayor is misinformed, he doesn't know the facts because we were told the facts by somebody who should know, and the facts are every single lease is individual.

6:11

The facts are that this particular lease has the right to be renewed again in December by the signature of the city manager, and it will not come forward to this council at all.

6:22

So before we are going around the community making statements to inflame tempers, it would be great if you would get those facts in advance.

6:34

I have one other thing that I'm going to discuss.

6:37

Um, and this doesn't relate to uh city business, it just relates to something I ran into today that I think it was important that everybody be aware of.

6:47

Um it it appears it's just kind of broad community interest because I know a lot of us probably use our phones to do our banking.

6:56

Um so as it turns out, it looks very much like the national bank clearing system has been hacked.

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Budget Equity Analysis███████7%
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Summary of Proceedings

Hudson City Council Workshop – August 27, 2024

The City Council of Hudson, Ohio, held a workshop meeting on Tuesday, August 27, 2024, at 7:30 PM in Town Hall. The meeting covered four major discussion items: a sidewalk project on Hines Hill and Valley View Roads, the future budgeting of Hudson Community Television (HCTV), adoption of the 2024 Safe Routes to School Travel Plan, and potential amendments to the Land Development Code. Council also reviewed the proposed consent agenda and legislation for the September 3 regular meeting. The meeting adjourned at 9:38 PM.

Consent Calendar

  • Resolution 24-99 – Authorizing the City Manager to amend the agreement with Norfolk Southern for preliminary engineering services for the Barlow Farm Path (additional $10,000).
  • Resolution 24-103 – Adopting in concept the 2024 Safe Routes to School Travel Plan.
  • Resolution 24-100 – Authorizing a change order with Anthony Allega Cement Contractor for storm damage remediation and improved drainage on the Middleton Road Sidewalk Phase 2 project ($56,000).
  • Resolution 24-101 – Accepting property tax amounts and rates as determined by the County Budget Commission.
  • Resolution 24-102 – Authorizing a contract with K2M Design for a comprehensive Fire and EMS Staffing and Facilities Needs Study (expected completion January 2025).
  • All consent items were forwarded for further consideration at the September 3 Council meeting.

Discussion Items

1. Hines Hill Road and Valley View Road Sidewalk Project (24-0079)

  • City Engineer Brad Kosco and Senior Engineer John Szalay, along with AECOM consultant Mike Woodring, presented updates on three sidewalk segments: Hines Hill Road (Glastonbury Drive to Valley View Road), Valley View Road (Hunting Hollow Drive to Hines Hill Road), and Valley View Road (Hines Hill Road to Middleton Road).
  • Council reviewed a matrix comparing east‑side vs. west‑side alignments, considering cost, safety, connectivity, and public input. Estimated cost for the three recommended segments was approximately $2 million, within the remaining $1.6 million budget (with contingency).
  • Debate centered on the Valley View segment between Hines Hill and Middleton (Option A): east side offered better connectivity (fewer mid‑block crossings) but impacted a historic fence; west side had fewer property intrusions but required a road crossing at a stop sign. Council ultimately reached consensus on the east side for Option A.
  • For Hines Hill Road, Option D (north side, between Glastonbury and Granby) was selected over the hybrid option, though some council members expressed hesitation due to resident opposition to any sidewalk on that road.
  • Council decided to move forward with final design on: Option A (east side), Option D (north side), and the already‑popular Valley View south segment (orange). Design on Options B (Valley View north of Hines Hill) and C (Hines Hill between Valley View and Glastonbury) was paused for future budget consideration.

2. Future Budgeting of Hudson Community Television (HCTV) (24-0057)

  • HCTV Station Manager Dan Gerbracht presented updated staff time allocation, studio space details, and a five‑year capital plan. HCTV employs 2.5 full‑time equivalents; most time is spent on HCTV productions, followed by meeting recordings, school district work, and public access support.
  • Council questioned the cost of editing HCTV videos and the value of public access programming. Council Member Sutton advocated discontinuing public access (currently subsidized at $30,000 per year from the general fund) and re‑evaluating the school district’s cost share for studio use.
  • Mr. Gerbracht agreed to provide a memo breaking out editing time, public access viewership data, and historical agreements with the school board (dating to 1996). No formal action was taken.

3. Safe Routes to School Travel Plan (24-103)

  • City Planner Nick Sugar and Hudson Schools Director of Operations Tom Barone presented the 2024 plan, funded by an ODOT grant. The plan was developed with a core team including school and city representatives. Recommendations include infrastructure improvements (crosswalks, traffic calming) and non‑infrastructure programs (education, promotions).
  • Council President Foster requested a copy of the current 2011 plan for comparison and noted the plan is advisory to the Comprehensive Plan. Staff agreed to strengthen introductory language clarifying that the plan does not supersede the Comprehensive Plan. The resolution was forwarded to the consent agenda.

4. 2024 Land Development Code Amendment Discussion (24-0080)

  • Community Development Director Greg Hannan reviewed 16 proposed amendments, including items from Council, Planning Commission, and staff. Topics discussed included:
    • Assisted living/CCRCs: Remove from commercial/industrial districts, limit to conditional use in other districts.
    • South State Route 91 frontage: Potential commercial expansion near Joann’s, contingent on Comprehensive Plan adoption.
    • Subdivision compatibility review: Make the first step a public hearing; provide clearer guidance on what constitutes “compatibility.”
    • Notice periods: Retain current 15‑day notice; no change.
    • Public hearing time limits: Council favored giving residents with legal standing (within 300 feet) more time, and possibly capping applicant presentations to 45–60 minutes.
    • Meeting management: Streamline board meetings by consolidating question rounds.
    • Open space conservation subdivisions: Provide diagrams to clarify intent.
    • Net density definition: Clarify to include private drives and impervious surfaces.
    • Marijuana facilities: Council did not reach consensus on a permanent ban; some members wanted to allow them in designated districts.
    • Other items were noted for further study or staff review.
  • Council requested a prioritized memo from staff to guide which amendments to pursue first.

Key Outcomes

  • Sidewalk project consensus: Move forward with final design for Option A (east side), Option D (north side), and the Valley View south segment. Pause Options B and C for future budget discussions.
  • HCTV: Staff to provide a detailed memo on editing time and public access viewership; no immediate budget decision.
  • Safe Routes to School Plan: Resolution adopted in concept as an advisory document; forwarded to consent agenda.
  • Land Development Code Amendments: Council provided feedback on multiple items; staff will prepare a memo prioritizing amendments for further action.
  • Future agenda items: A proclamation for the Hudson High School Chamber Orchestra will appear on September 3; discussion of a HAWK signal at the Clock Tower crosswalk will be added to a future workshop; a draft ordinance on carry‑over infrastructure funds is expected for September 10.

Meeting Transcript

I'd like to call this meeting to order. This is a duly notice workshop meeting of Hudson City Council held in accordance with the Sunshine Laws of the State of Ohio, Section 121.22 for Tuesday, August 27th, 2024. Per ordinance 220.031 titled Workshop Meetings and Item C. I would now like to turn the meeting over to Council President Foster so as to continue through the remaining workshop agenda items. Council President Foster, the floor and workshop meeting is yours. Thank you very much. We will start out with section two, which is correspondence and council comments. If there are any council members that have correspondence or comments to provide to the public, please get my attention and I will call your the floor to you uh to you to speak. Um two brief comments and one will just be a summary. I've heard a lot from a lot of folks. I'm looking forward to apparently hearing from more folks about sidewalks. I think um it's important to know that we're listening and that we have to compile all the information, all the opinions from a lot of varying perspectives, right? So I I think even if your individual question isn't answered tonight, just keep in mind that we are trying to put it all together in the decisions that we're making. Um that that's what I wanted to say about sidewalks was thank you for sharing, it helps a great deal. And the second was I had the opportunity to uh walk downtown with one of our visually impaired residents, somebody who's considered legally blind now, and was walking the route that they get just to use downtown. I know we've talked about safety, et cetera, crosswalks, and we had some vigorous debate about the blinking yellow lights, which scare some people who can't see to death because they are not consistently stopped at. So whereas I'm not advocating to do this with all of them, I would like to add later in our future agenda items discussing a hawk signal, something I brought up with Brad when we were talking about the flashing yellow lights down for that intersection next to the clock tower because I I think it does provide a safe route for somebody who's visually impaired, not just the convenience of stopping traffic, but the confidence that traffic is stopped at that critical infrastructure or intersection. And that's all I've got for today. Comments? I do have uh one comment. Um I do want to correct some misinformation that has come to my attention with regard to the city's existing lease for storage space at City Hall with the Western Reserve Community Band. I was contacted by one of the band members and then later later spoke directly with the band's president. The member asked me why the city was not going to renew their lease for storage of their music files and equipment at City Hall. The member further stated that this was a fact and that this information was communicated to the band by several prominent people. And for reference, the community ban is currently in year two of their lease, and they have an option to apply for a third year, which will cover all of 2025. But the ban has yet to submit their application for year three. As such, the city has not taken a position because there is no application to review, and approval of an application for a year three option only requires the city manager's signature. So I'm concerned that very specific misinformation has been circulating with regard to the process and determination of city lease agreements, and I am bringing this forward today so as to correct the record and clarify the misinformation for both the band and the community. Thank you. That's all. Other comments, Dr. Getz. Yeah, my understanding is that when leases are not when they're finished, they won't be renewed. That was what was brought up when we talked to the um destination Hudson. So my um, and and I'm the one that talked because I'm a member of the band, is I had said when the lease is up, and they were not sure when the lease was up, but I said my understanding is that's what the council had decided. Um, but hopefully we can change that um because we've been talking about that. So I'm sorry if the band member misunderstood me. Um I did not say that their lease was up. I said when it is up. My understanding is it won't be renewed unless the council makes some different opinion about it. I would like to respond to that. And that's why I did my due diligence, uh, Councilor Getz, because uh the president of the band and that member were asking me to look into those details and find out what was going on. So again, I felt it was my duty to look into that. I reviewed the lease. I got the copy of the lease from uh uh the city manager's office. I talked to additional people to find out how does the legislation that was passed almost two years ago apply to this, confirmed with Mr. Sheridan that um all the ban has to do is apply for a third-year lease, which is in um all of the documentation. So if there was that misinformation out there, um people were coming to me very passionately, and I did not want that to reflect poorly upon the city or this council or the city and the staff. So um that's why I did my due diligence to correct that. Uh thank you for helping understand how this process happened, and hopefully everybody is on the same page now.

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