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Hudson Planning Commission Meeting – November 8, 2021

Planning Commission — Monday, November 8, 2021

BodyHudson, Ohio

SessionPlanning Commission

DateMonday, November 8, 2021

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0:02

Okay.

0:04

Call in order of stated meeting of the industrial design subcommittee for the city of Hudson.

0:10

Mr.

0:11

Sugar, would you like to take attendance?

0:15

Yes.

0:15

Mr.

0:17

Mr.

0:17

Orkley?

0:18

Here.

0:18

Ms.

0:18

Marzua here.

0:19

Mr.

0:19

Lehman.

0:20

Here.

0:22

We have one agenda item, which is the Ramco construction at 5445 Hudson.

0:28

Do you want to give the reporter discussion?

0:32

Mr.

0:33

Greg Seaford here from Geist Companies to help us with the discussion.

0:38

Just a quick overview.

0:46

Oops.

0:52

Looking at Ramco, which is at the end of Hudson Hudson Industrial Parkway.

0:58

Just for some background, the the building was reviewed by the Planning Commission and Industrial Design Subcommittee in 2015.

1:09

Through that review, there were a couple additions highlighted, this being one of them, one to the north of the building as a future edition, and one to the west of the building between the drive and the building here.

1:21

This is the feature edition that we're now discussing today.

1:40

Pull the elevations.

2:13

Staff we did recommend matching that that pre-cast material, although we did note that the building and the additions located and it's on the rear of the building.

2:23

It would be on the rear of the building and it would be on uh the end of the terminus of a cul-de-sac.

2:28

Um then we did have the staff comments uh to the review criteria.

2:37

Um but uh before we get into all those, I can turn it over to Greg if you want to uh give us an introduction or add.

2:44

Uh sure.

2:45

Uh Greg Seaford with Geist Construction.

2:47

Uh good evening and thanks for being here tonight.

2:50

I'm gonna hand out handouts, might make it easier than flipping around different pages.

2:55

Thanks.

2:56

Color.

2:59

Just what I was hoping for.

3:01

Just what I was hoping for.

3:03

Thank you.

3:08

Uh as Nick mentioned.

3:13

This is a pretty straightforward uh expansion to the existing building.

3:18

Um it uh it would have been planned for previously uh when the original building was built, and eventually this the site is big enough that the building could also expand further towards the uh towards Hudson Industrial Parkway.

3:32

Um it was chosen when we built the original building to set the building back because well uh mostly because the owner liked the way it sat on the property, and as you know, if you come down Hudson Industrial Parkway and and and take that left um, I'm sorry, right hand turn, and you're looking across the pond there.

3:49

I think it sits very well on the property and um you know and has a great presence there.

3:54

So um it's my hope that when in one sense that the building doesn't expand, but you know, for the purposes of their building uh their business growing, you know, someday obviously we hope that it does.

4:04

Um anyway, uh this addition was planned on the west side of the property.

4:08

Uh it was all graded, it was basically put there to the proper elevation, and then some uh topsoil put down and it was seeded in order to be uh grass.

4:17

And uh the drive for the truck drive entrance, which is further to the west of this, uh, was placed so that it would be out of the way of this expansion.

4:26

Um as Nick mentioned, the uh the exterior surfaces of the building uh we we would and so would the Ramco people prefer to get to do those uh walls, at least the south and west walls as precast, but unfortunately, we can't get it.

4:45

Um in in the in today's day in uh uh uh life experiences with trying to get uh um building materials um pre-cast and concrete panels are uh 32 weeks plus out.

5:00

And what and and in a building like that, even if you build it and don't use them as load bearing, you gotta have those walls in place before you can obviously enclose the building.

5:10

One of the purposes of or I should say the main purpose of this expansion is to expand their manufacturing capabilities.

5:18

The existing building has offices on the east side, uh probably about two-thirds of that existing footprint in the blue on this site plan is warehouse space, and then the rest of it is manufacturing.

5:30

This addition would be additional manufacturing, and in early June, there is a very large machine showing up to uh to reside in this space, and the intention is that obviously there's a building for it when it gets there, so we've had to jump through a number of hoops and including multiple different design sessions to try and figure out how to get structural steel and roofing for this building in time to meet their deadline.

5:57

It also means that lucky us, we get to start construction January, and you know what it's gonna be like outside in January and February.

6:04

So but we have committed to Ramco to to work through this and try and get this building built for them under that time frame, and uh and unfortunately that doesn't allow us to wait around for precast.

6:15

Um we we have tried and we are continuing to try, and should we be able to find precast, then we will uh we will come back and let everybody know that we would like to make that change to it.

6:26

We haven't given up on it yet, but I can't commit to it, and we have to get moving.

6:30

So uh in this case at this point, I'm the all three walls of this building will be metal siding.

6:36

Uh the metal siding will match the existing north wall of the building.

6:41

If you go to the second page of this, um this this is kind of a photo rendering, uh, which I'll talk about in a little bit here of what this expansion will look like from the cul-de-sac.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting

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Procedural█████████████████17%

Land Use Regulation███████████████15%

Planned Development████████████12%

Signage Regulation███████████11%

Zoning Code█████████9%

Landscaping███████7%

Stormwater Management██2%

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Summary of Proceedings

Hudson Planning Commission Meeting – November 8, 2021

The City of Hudson Planning Commission held a regular meeting on Monday, November 8, 2021, at 7:30 PM at Town Hall, preceded by an Industrial Design Subcommittee meeting at 6:45 PM. The Commission considered a text amendment to sign illumination standards for industrial districts and a site plan for a 49,354 square foot industrial addition at Ramco (5445 Hudson Industrial Parkway). The Commission also approved the minutes from the October 11, 2021, meeting and the 2022 Planning Commission meeting schedule.

Consent Calendar

Approval of Minutes (October 11, 2021): Approved as submitted on a motion by Mr. Lehman, seconded by Mr. Nystrom. The vote was 5-0-1 (Mr. Anglewicz abstained).

Public Comments & Testimony

No public comments were offered on any agenda item.

Industrial Design Subcommittee (6:45 PM)

Acting Chair Lehman convened the subcommittee to review the Ramco addition application. The applicant (Greg Seifert, GEIS Construction) explained the need for metal siding due to precast concrete unavailability (32-week lead time) and proposed a 24x24 foot overhead door on the north elevation for delivering large machinery, which would require a variance from the Board of Zoning Appeals (BZBA). The subcommittee discussed buffer yard options, roof equipment screening, and the door location, which is 330 feet from Hudson Industrial Parkway.
Subcommittee Recommendation (unanimous): Approve with conditions: landscape buffer yard B (minimum 10 feet), coordinate an elevation study with staff for roof equipment, enlarge the existing berm, and refer the door variance to BZBA, noting it is on the working side of the building.

Discussion Items

PC 2021-1177 – Text Amendment to Land Development Code §1207.17 (Sign Illumination Standards)

City Planner Nicholas Sugar presented a staff-initiated amendment to allow internally illuminated signs in Industrial Districts 6 and 8. Currently, such signs require a building over 100,000 sq ft and a 500-foot setback from any public road. The proposal removes the building size requirement and changes the setback to 500 feet from arterial streets only (as defined in the code). The amendment aims to reduce BZBA variance requests from large industrial users seeking highway-visible signage.
Commission Discussion: Members expressed concern about a "slippery slope" weakening Hudson's sign standards. They debated adding a minimum building size to limit eligibility. Ms. Jones opposed the amendment entirely, fearing it would open the door to further requests. Mr. Chuparkoff moved to recommend approval with an added condition requiring a minimum 50,000 sq ft of gross floor area for any buildings or properties eligible for internal illumination. The motion was seconded by Mr. Lehman.
Vote: 5-1 (Ms. Jones nay). The recommendation will be forwarded to City Council.

PC 2021-1166 – Site Plan for Ramco Addition (5445 Hudson Industrial Parkway)

Staff introduced the proposal for a 49,354 sq ft addition to the west end of the existing 164,000 sq ft building in District 8 (Industrial/Business Park). The addition was anticipated in the 2015 approval; stormwater and grading were already designed. Applicant Greg Seifert described the purpose: to house a large machine arriving in June 2022. Because precast concrete is unavailable (32+ week lead), the addition will use metal siding matching the existing north wall. A large overhead door on the north elevation is needed for machine delivery but violates the land development code; a BZBA variance will be sought separately.
The Industrial Design Subcommittee (6:45 PM) had recommended buffer yard B (instead of staff-recommended D), allowing metal siding due to material shortages, screening roof equipment, and referring the door to BZBA.
Commission Discussion: Members asked about stormwater, parking (5-10 new employees, existing parking adequate), and buffer yard adequacy. Staff accepted the subcommittee's buffer yard B recommendation (minimum 10 feet). No additional curb cuts are needed.
Motion: Mr. Lehman moved, seconded by Mr. Anglewicz, to approve the site plan with conditions: (1) landscape buffer yard B (minimum 10 ft) between addition and Hudson Industrial Parkway; (2) submit updated parking/employee calculations per code §1207.12(f); (3) address comments of Assistant City Engineer Nate Wonsick per Nov 3 correspondence; (4) accept subcommittee recommendations including roof equipment screening, buffer yard B, and coordination with staff on the overhead door design.
Vote: Unanimous (6-0).

PC 2022 – 2022 Planning Commission Meeting Schedule

The proposed schedule was presented. A motion to approve was made by Mr. Lehman, seconded by Ms. Jones, and carried unanimously (6-0).

Key Outcomes

Sign Illumination Text Amendment: Recommended to City Council for approval (5-1) with an added condition requiring a minimum 50,000 sq ft gross floor area for eligible buildings in Districts 6 and 8.
Ramco Addition Site Plan: Approved unanimously (6-0) with conditions including buffer yard B, parking verification, engineering comments, and acceptance of Industrial Design Subcommittee recommendations.
2022 Meeting Schedule: Approved unanimously (6-0).
Next Meeting: Staff noted applications for December include a 31-unit townhome development (conditional use) and pickleball courts at Barlow Farm Park. Other text amendments (2021 LDC updates, agricultural code) are progressing through City Council.

Meeting Transcript

Okay. Call in order of stated meeting of the industrial design subcommittee for the city of Hudson. Mr. Sugar, would you like to take attendance? Yes. Mr. Mr. Orkley? Here. Ms. Marzua here. Mr. Lehman. Here. We have one agenda item, which is the Ramco construction at 5445 Hudson. Do you want to give the reporter discussion? Mr. Greg Seaford here from Geist Companies to help us with the discussion. Just a quick overview. Oops. Looking at Ramco, which is at the end of Hudson Hudson Industrial Parkway. Just for some background, the the building was reviewed by the Planning Commission and Industrial Design Subcommittee in 2015. Through that review, there were a couple additions highlighted, this being one of them, one to the north of the building as a future edition, and one to the west of the building between the drive and the building here. This is the feature edition that we're now discussing today. Pull the elevations. Staff we did recommend matching that that pre-cast material, although we did note that the building and the additions located and it's on the rear of the building. It would be on the rear of the building and it would be on uh the end of the terminus of a cul-de-sac. Um then we did have the staff comments uh to the review criteria. Um but uh before we get into all those, I can turn it over to Greg if you want to uh give us an introduction or add. Uh sure. Uh Greg Seaford with Geist Construction. Uh good evening and thanks for being here tonight. I'm gonna hand out handouts, might make it easier than flipping around different pages. Thanks. Color. Just what I was hoping for. Just what I was hoping for. Thank you. Uh as Nick mentioned. This is a pretty straightforward uh expansion to the existing building. Um it uh it would have been planned for previously uh when the original building was built, and eventually this the site is big enough that the building could also expand further towards the uh towards Hudson Industrial Parkway. Um it was chosen when we built the original building to set the building back because well uh mostly because the owner liked the way it sat on the property, and as you know, if you come down Hudson Industrial Parkway and and and take that left um, I'm sorry, right hand turn, and you're looking across the pond there. I think it sits very well on the property and um you know and has a great presence there. So um it's my hope that when in one sense that the building doesn't expand, but you know, for the purposes of their building uh their business growing, you know, someday obviously we hope that it does. Um anyway, uh this addition was planned on the west side of the property. Uh it was all graded, it was basically put there to the proper elevation, and then some uh topsoil put down and it was seeded in order to be uh grass. And uh the drive for the truck drive entrance, which is further to the west of this, uh, was placed so that it would be out of the way of this expansion. Um as Nick mentioned, the uh the exterior surfaces of the building uh we we would and so would the Ramco people prefer to get to do those uh walls, at least the south and west walls as precast, but unfortunately, we can't get it. Um in in the in today's day in uh uh uh life experiences with trying to get uh um building materials um pre-cast and concrete panels are uh 32 weeks plus out. And what and and in a building like that, even if you build it and don't use them as load bearing, you gotta have those walls in place before you can obviously enclose the building.

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