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Hudson Planning Commission Meeting November 14, 2022: HCL and Laurel Lake Applications

Planning Commission — Monday, November 14, 2022
BodyHudson, Ohio
SessionPlanning Commission
DateMonday, November 14, 2022
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5:06

Good evening, everyone.

5:08

Call the meeting to order.

5:11

Mr.

5:11

Sugar, if you could please call the role of the Commission.

5:15

Yes, thank you, Mr.

5:16

Chair.

5:17

Ms.

5:17

Jones?

5:17

Here.

5:18

Ms.

5:18

Norman.

5:19

Here.

5:19

Ms.

5:19

Nice.

5:20

Mr.

5:20

Nystrum.

5:21

Here.

5:21

Mr.

5:22

Furby?

5:22

Mr.

5:23

Lehman?

5:24

Mr.

5:24

Stoley.

5:25

Here.

5:26

We have a quorum of the Commission members present, six of seven.

5:30

So we'll proceed with tonight's meeting agenda.

5:34

First of all, I'd like to welcome everybody to this, the regularly scheduled November meeting of the City of Hudson Planning Commission.

5:42

For those who might have missed it, there are agenda handouts at the back of the room.

5:48

And on page three is the order of that the commission observes for all public hearings, which I believe most of you are here for.

6:30

Those wishing to address the commission on either the Hudson Community Life or Laurel Lake applications will be heard during those specific public hearings.

6:42

For anyone who has submitted written comments on either of the two applications will be hearing tonight.

6:56

And we've had quite a bit.

9:53

Hopefully I've caught all of them.

10:00

But are there any communications that any commission members wish to share at this point?

10:09

Mr.

10:09

Chairman, I I have nothing to add.

10:11

I just wanted to note for the general interest of the public that if we receive uh communications from people, I am not the chairperson, so I do not answer, but I printed out and I did confirm with staff that all of the communications that were sent to me individually were also sent to other members of the commission.

10:28

So it's not the individual members' place to speak for the chairman and the chairman and the vice chairman have acknowledged emails, um, some of them at least.

10:37

So that's all.

10:38

Yeah.

10:39

Um we've actually received I believe the number is 90 just in the past week.

10:47

Um there's a lot of interest.

10:51

Um at this point, we open it up for any public discussions.

10:57

This again is for nothing that is on the agenda, but anything that a resident would like to speak to the commission about.

11:07

Is there anyone who has anything not related to tonight's agenda who wishes to address the commission?

11:15

Not seeing anyone, we'll move on to the next item.

11:19

Um I do want to alert at this point the com my fellow commissioners that when we reach item nine on tonight's agenda, other business.

11:34

We'll be discussing three specific items.

11:38

Um the mechanics of the application process based on Ms.

11:44

Norman's November 14th inquiry.

11:49

Um the status of the steering committee for the comprehensive plan review.

11:54

I have an update on that.

11:56

And then there was a suggestion received by the commission this past week that the venue for future meetings be changed to a larger facility.

12:09

So we might want to discuss that and have some comment for council.

12:15

Um made a comment about making certain that safety forces are provided for all meetings.

12:24

Whether or not that's really necessary, I'm not sure, but we'll discuss that.

12:29

Okay.

12:30

Um, just so the members are aware of what's coming up.

12:35

At this point, we approve the minutes from the last meeting.

12:39

Those minutes were circulated to the commission members.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Planned Development██████████████████████████26%
Miscellaneous███████████████████████23%
Procedural███████████████15%
Land Use Regulation█████████████13%
Disability Rights██████6%
Housing███3%
Stormwater Management███3%
Traffic Management██2%
Public Safety██2%
Summary of Proceedings

Hudson Planning Commission Meeting November 14, 2022: HCL and Laurel Lake Applications

The Planning Commission met on Monday, November 14, 2022 at 7:30 PM at Town Hall, 27 East Main Street, Hudson, Ohio. The meeting featured two major public hearings continued from September 12: Hudson Community Living (HCL), a conditional use and site plan for an institutional residential facility for individuals with special needs, and Laurel Lake, a conditional use for additional duplex units in a continuing care retirement community. After extensive discussion on HCL, the Commission continued the hearing to December 12, 2022 with conditions. Due to a building alarm deadline, Laurel Lake was continued to a special meeting on November 28, 2022.

Approval of Minutes

  • Minutes of the October 10, 2022 Planning Commission meeting were approved by a vote of 5 in favor, 0 opposed, with 1 abstention (Ms. Jones).

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Support for HCL: Multiple speakers urged approval, including parents Pat and Sherry Walsh (7519 Warren Point Lane), teacher Julie Ann Hancsak (60 Division Street), Sherry Jeffries (62 South Hayden Parkway) and her son Cole, Deven Giannetti (205 Ravenna Street), and Dave Faiman (7577 Hudson Park Drive). They highlighted the need for supportive independent living in Hudson, the safety and community contributions of the intended residents, and the lack of alternative housing for developmentally disabled adults.
  • Opposition to HCL: Ross Babbitt (27 Rosylen Ave) argued the facility is an unlicensed residential care facility requiring state oversight. Attorney Diane Calta (Mansour Gavin) on behalf of neighbors Don and Lisa Kurdziel raised concerns about Fair Housing Act compliance, ADA, and the need for a specific zoning classification. Welborn Jack (28 Fox Trace Lane) cited stormwater and wetland preservation issues. Renee Commarato (35 Pinewood Lane) questioned the project's compliance with integration mandates and noted changing plans. Charlotte Barton (142 E. Streetsboro Street) supported the concept but opposed the location. Lisa Kurdziel (7 Fox Trace Lane) expressed concerns about traffic safety and integration. Ken Haneline (42 Fox Trace) cited Dr. Nofsinger's expert opinion opposing the project. Dan Wright (83 South Hayden Parkway) representing multiple families argued the density and traffic projections were underestimated and that public comment was 50-1 against. Mary Beth Miller (68 Fox Trace Lane) noted many could not fit in the room and opposed due to water issues and neighborhood character.

Discussion Items

  • Hudson Community Living (PC 2022-822): City Planner Nicholas Sugar presented the staff report, confirming the use fits the institutional residential definition and that density thresholds for residential uses do not apply to institutional uses. Applicant Chris Gurreri and architect Nate Bailey presented revised site plans reducing density in the northeast quadrant (removing a three-unit building, reducing square footage by ~16,000 sq ft). They addressed staff conditions, including a 25-foot buffer yard, privacy fence, stormwater management, and a BZBA variance for wetlands. Commissioners questioned the applicant on financial feasibility, staffing, Fair Housing limitations, the ability to restrict tenants to disabled individuals, licensing requirements, deed restrictions, parking numbers, and open space. City Solicitor Pitchford agreed with staff that net density requirements are not applicable to institutional residential uses, and that the Commission has discretion under conditional use criteria to determine compatibility.
  • Commission Deliberation: Commissioner Melissa Jones argued the project should be treated as residential, with density limits of 4 dwelling units per acre (16 units max). Commissioner Sarah Norman echoed concerns, stressing the need for a legal opinion on discriminatory tenant selection and a deed restriction with a 25-year renewable term, right of first refusal for the city, and demolition of two buildings if use changes. The Commission debated conceptual vs. conditional approval and timeline. A motion to continue the public hearing to December 12, 2022 with conditions was approved 6-0.
  • Laurel Lake (PC 2022-823): With less than 30 minutes before the building alarm system locked, the Commission quickly voted to hold a special meeting on November 28, 2022 solely for this application, preserving the public hearing. Motion carried 6-0.
  • Other Business: Commissioners discussed the application review process, noting the challenge of late changes. Commissioner Norman advocated for a cutoff after the staff report is published. No changes were made to the rules; the 2023 meeting schedule was continued.

Key Outcomes

  • Hudson Community Living: Continued to December 12, 2022 public hearing. Applicant must submit (1) draft deed restriction with 25-year term (renewable 25), notice of transfer, and city right of first refusal; (2) legal opinion on ability to restrict tenants to disabled individuals and state licensing requirements per Ohio Revised Code; (3) detailed landscaping plan; and (4) reduced project density (specific number of units not dictated, pending legal opinion on institutional use).
  • Laurel Lake: Continued to a special meeting on November 28, 2022 at 7:30 PM (location TBD).
  • Meeting Schedule: DRAFT 2023 Planning Commission schedule was postponed to a future meeting.

Meeting Transcript

Good evening, everyone. Call the meeting to order. Mr. Sugar, if you could please call the role of the Commission. Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. Ms. Jones? Here. Ms. Norman. Here. Ms. Nice. Mr. Nystrum. Here. Mr. Furby? Mr. Lehman? Mr. Stoley. Here. We have a quorum of the Commission members present, six of seven. So we'll proceed with tonight's meeting agenda. First of all, I'd like to welcome everybody to this, the regularly scheduled November meeting of the City of Hudson Planning Commission. For those who might have missed it, there are agenda handouts at the back of the room. And on page three is the order of that the commission observes for all public hearings, which I believe most of you are here for. Those wishing to address the commission on either the Hudson Community Life or Laurel Lake applications will be heard during those specific public hearings. For anyone who has submitted written comments on either of the two applications will be hearing tonight. And we've had quite a bit. Hopefully I've caught all of them. But are there any communications that any commission members wish to share at this point? Mr. Chairman, I I have nothing to add. I just wanted to note for the general interest of the public that if we receive uh communications from people, I am not the chairperson, so I do not answer, but I printed out and I did confirm with staff that all of the communications that were sent to me individually were also sent to other members of the commission. So it's not the individual members' place to speak for the chairman and the chairman and the vice chairman have acknowledged emails, um, some of them at least. So that's all. Yeah. Um we've actually received I believe the number is 90 just in the past week. Um there's a lot of interest. Um at this point, we open it up for any public discussions. This again is for nothing that is on the agenda, but anything that a resident would like to speak to the commission about. Is there anyone who has anything not related to tonight's agenda who wishes to address the commission? Not seeing anyone, we'll move on to the next item. Um I do want to alert at this point the com my fellow commissioners that when we reach item nine on tonight's agenda, other business. We'll be discussing three specific items. Um the mechanics of the application process based on Ms. Norman's November 14th inquiry.

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