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Hudson Planning Commission Meeting - October 9, 2023: WRA Addition Approval and Canterbury Crossing Review

Planning Commission — Monday, October 9, 2023
BodyHudson, Ohio
SessionPlanning Commission
DateMonday, October 9, 2023
StatusFILED
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5:16

Good evening, everyone.

5:18

Like to call to order the regular October meeting of the City of Hudson Planning Commission.

5:25

There was an agenda as you came in, and hopefully you signed in.

5:30

Mr.

5:30

Sugar, if you'd call a roll.

5:32

Yes, Mr.

5:33

Nstrom.

5:34

Here.

5:35

Mr.

5:35

Furby?

5:36

Here.

5:36

Ms.

5:37

Jones?

5:38

Here.

5:38

Ms.

5:38

Norman?

5:39

Here.

5:40

Mr.

5:40

Romano?

5:41

Here.

5:41

Mr.

5:41

Stoley.

5:42

Here.

5:43

And as much as we have six of seven, we have a quorum, so we shall proceed.

5:48

If there is anyone in the audience, um and staff who wishes to address commission this evening, um, I'll swear you in at this point.

5:58

If you'll stand.

6:01

Please raise your right hand.

6:03

Do you swear or affirm under the penalty of perjury that the testimony you give tonight will be the truth?

6:08

If so, answer I do.

6:11

Thank you.

6:12

Um just a reminder, if you're addressing the commission, please step up to the podium, um, state your name and address, and then make your comments.

6:21

Um this point, ask any of the commissioners or staff if there's any additional correspondence you've received that we haven't been furnished already that should be entered into the record.

6:36

No, no, there's none.

6:38

All right, uh move on to agenda item five.

6:42

Is there anyone here this evening who wishes to address the commission on anything that is not on tonight's agenda?

6:52

This is Chairman Stolly.

6:54

I just have one quick question for procedural.

6:56

Um I understand that agenda item PC 2023, 676 was noticed as a public meeting, not a public hearing.

7:06

I think we've addressed this issue before.

7:07

I'm just curious as to when you would prefer a public comment be made.

7:12

Comment will be made um during the meeting.

7:16

Thank you.

7:16

I'll address that.

7:18

Okay.

7:19

Um next item up is approval of the minutes from the last commission meeting dated August 28th.

7:29

Um corrections.

7:35

Mr.

7:35

Soley, um, I would uh like to just remind all of the um planning commission members and city staff who may be participating in meetings that it's of vital importance to be sure that we are speaking into a microphone, and to that end, I would like to call the commission's attention to page three, where the um item number nine, other business.

7:59

Um it says item B, but that is probably supposed to be an A.

8:04

Uh perhaps it's not necessary if we don't have more than one item.

8:08

Um it's related to the discussion of conflict of interest text, and um I felt like we needed to make some changes.

8:16

Uh I would recommend that we add to the first paragraph, uh, which is one sentence, add to the end of the set that sentence, given Mrs.

8:26

Norman's inquiry to refine timing and language of existing provisions, then I would ask to strike the sentence of the next paragraph beginning.

8:36

The commissioners requested staff because as I reviewed the video um this afternoon.

8:41

In fact, we did not ask the city solicitor to develop language um related to ethical duties.

8:48

Um in the second sentence, which could remain with no issues, I would strike the word also since there's nothing to add to that statement.

8:58

Um and then the final paragraph uh, which is also a sentence, it's the staff that acknowledged that the formal administrative rules amendment would be presented in October for the first of two readings.

9:12

Um I did if you would like to go back and check those.

9:15

Um the administrative rules discussion begins at the 57 minute mark of our video tape, and unfortunately, most of the comments that the city solicitor made were um not recorded on the audio, so I I really can't speak to what he offered um except for a handful of items.

9:34

But those are my suggestions, Mr.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Land Use Regulation██████████████████████████████████34%
Planned Development██████████████14%
Procedural███████7%
Engineering And Infrastructure███████7%
Public Comment████4%
Public Engagement████4%
Environmental Protection████4%
Open Space Conservation████4%
Public Safety███3%
Summary of Proceedings

Hudson Planning Commission Meeting - October 9, 2023

The Hudson Planning Commission met on Monday, October 9, 2023, at 7:30 PM at Town Hall, 27 East Main Street. The meeting included a public hearing and conditional use approval for a 7,539 sq. ft. addition to Ellsworth Hall at Western Reserve Academy, a compatibility review for the proposed 34-lot Canterbury Crossing subdivision, a first reading of administrative rule changes, and staff updates. The meeting adjourned at 11:00 PM.

Consent Calendar

  • Approval of Minutes (September 11, 2023): The minutes were approved as edited (motion by Mr. Nystrom, seconded by Ms. Jones). Vote: 5 ayes (Ms. Jones, Ms. Norman, Mr. Nystrom, Mr. Stolle, Mr. Furbee), 1 abstention (Mr. Romano, who was absent at the prior meeting).

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Western Reserve Academy (PC 2023-789): No public comments were offered.
  • Canterbury Crossing (PC 2023-676) – Public Discussion:
    • Richard C. Fedorovich (6575 Chestwick Lane): Expressed full support for Prestige Builder Group, stating his wife and neighbors are very satisfied with their Prestige-built home and that the development offers needed housing options for those wishing to stay in Hudson.
    • Chris Cosma (2242 Ravenna Street): Opposed the project, citing flooding concerns from the headwater springs of Brandywine Creek, light pollution incompatible with rural character, increased traffic on Ravenna and Stowe Roads, noise from garbage trucks, and negative impacts on the adjacent riding arena.
    • Robert Vizmeg (6395 Ridgeline Drive): Supported the development, arguing that Hudson needs new, high-quality homes to attract and retain young families, and that the project represents progress.
    • Melissa Jones (2233 Ravenna Street, speaking as a private citizen after recusing herself from the commission): Argued that the proposal does not comply with the Comprehensive Plan or Land Development Code. She cited specific plan goals for rural character, low-density (less than 1 unit per 2.5 acres), and noted that the Comprehensive Plan identifies this area for low-impact cluster development. She stated that the plan uses the south side’s undesirable land to meet open space requirements while developing the north side intensively, and that the Ohio Revised Code defines subdivision as requiring contiguous land, making this two separate subdivisions. She also noted she had received a threat of legal action from the applicant’s attorney.
    • Skyler Sutton (2243 Ravenna Street): Opposed, stating that trusting the developer’s judgment cannot override code requirements. He highlighted that the applicant admitted one side of Ravenna Street is more developable, indicating two incompatible densities, and that the existing character is large rural lots, not traditional neighborhoods.
    • Dan Walker (7610 Warren Point Lane): Supported, having lived in three Prestige homes and praising their quality. He urged the commission to have an open mind to provide housing for residents who want to stay in Hudson.

Discussion Items

  • PC 2023-789 – Western Reserve Academy, Ellsworth Hall Addition:

    • Staff Presentation (Nicholas Sugar): The project is a conditional use and site plan request for a 7,539 sq. ft. addition to the dining hall, with a net increase of 4,800 sq. ft. after demolishing a 1990s addition. The addition will allow the entire student and faculty body (approx. 500 people) to dine together; the current hall seats 350. Site modifications include expanded curb cut, split boulevard for gas lines and fire truck turnaround, new loading dock, outdoor patio, green roof, and upgraded electrical and sprinkler systems. Cost is approximately $19 million, with construction from January 2024 to June 2025.
    • Applicant Presentation (Mark Olson, Bialosky Cleveland; Seth Duke, project manager): Detailed design respects historic architecture. The alternative plan (deduct alternate) removes tiered seating in favor of landscaped berms. Lighting will be reduced to meet code. The city arborist’s concerns about legacy trees (white oak, red oak, locust) are being addressed.
    • Commissioner Questions: Addressed lighting levels, tree protection, loading dock screening height (staff recommended 8 ft vs. proposed 10 ft), ADA compliance, green roof access (maintenance only), and stormwater management.
    • Final Action: The commission approved the conditional use and site plan 6-0, subject to five modified conditions:
      1. Remove staff recommendation for single curb cut; allow dual access as proposed.
      2. Loading dock screening: applicant may use alternative screening (e.g., planter wall with shrubs) to achieve compliance with Section 1206.03(b)(5)(B), or seek a variance for a 10 ft wall.
      3. Revise landscaping plan per city arborist: protect white oak, preserve red oak adjacent to detention basin, relocate grading near locust tree, and provide a landscape bond at 110% of installation cost.
      4. Reduce outdoor lighting to comply with 1207.14; adopt the alternative plan (removing tiered seating).
      5. Address all comments from Assistant City Engineer David Rapp (September 29, 2023 letter).
  • PC 2023-676 – Canterbury Crossing Compatibility Review (Concept Plan):

    • Staff Overview: The proposal is for a 34-lot single-family open space conservation subdivision on ~98 acres at Ravenna and Stowe Roads. This is a compatibility review only; no decision is made.
    • Applicant Presentation: Chris Brown (Kutchar LLC/Prestige Builder Group) noted the plan is entirely new (not the previous 160-180 home proposal). John Russell (Prestige Builder Group) emphasized the company’s 30+ year history in Hudson, building 1,300+ homes, and commitment to high quality. Attorney John Slagter argued that the code’s compatibility review should consider all permitted uses (e.g., kennels, cemeteries) and that the development meets open space conservation standards. He asserted the parcels are contiguous under Ohio law.
    • Commissioner Feedback:
      • Several commissioners expressed concern that the proposal effectively treats the two sides of Ravenna Road as separate subdivisions, with the north side intensely developed and the south side used to meet open space requirements. They questioned whether this complies with the Comprehensive Plan and Land Development Code, which require contiguous preservation and compatibility with existing rural residential density (less than 1 unit per 2.5 acres).
      • Ms. Norman stated the plan does not meet the purposes of the code, particularly regarding preserving agricultural lands, managing growth, and stabilizing property values. She recommended the applicant submit two separate subdivisions, cluster lots near 10,000 sq. ft. minimum, and demonstrate minimal land disturbance.
      • Mr. Nystrom requested a full set of soil borings with water table analysis for the preliminary application.
      • Concerns were raised about wetlands discrepancies (a prior delineation showed more wetlands than the current study), stormwater runoff/flooding, and traffic impacts.
    • No formal motion was made; the commission provided extensive guidance. The applicant must address these issues before submitting a preliminary subdivision application.
  • PC ADMIN – Updates to Administrative Rules (Conflict of Interest Text):

    • Chair Stolle conducted a first reading of the proposed amendment to reference Ohio Revised Code Chapter 102. No comments were made by commissioners. A second reading will occur in November.

Key Outcomes

  • WRA Ellsworth Hall Addition (PC 2023-789): Approved 6-0 with five conditions (as modified). The applicant must implement the alternative plan, reduce lighting, protect specified trees, and address engineer comments.
  • Canterbury Crossing (PC 2023-676): No vote taken. The commission gave strong feedback indicating significant concerns about compatibility, lot layout, open space distribution, and compliance with the Comprehensive Plan. The applicant was advised to consider bifurcating the project, clustering homes, and submitting complete preliminary materials.
  • Administrative Rules: First reading completed; second reading scheduled for November 13, 2023.
  • Staff Updates: No path to revoke the Turnpike staging permit; council reviewing vape shops, tattoo parlors, and North Main Street uses; Comprehensive Plan community workshop postponed to January 31/February 1, 2024; discussion of potential Land Development Code rewrite deferred to spring.
  • Next Meeting: November 13, 2023, with agenda items including a conditional use for a bank conversion and possibly a preliminary subdivision review for Pine Ridge.

Meeting Transcript

Good evening, everyone. Like to call to order the regular October meeting of the City of Hudson Planning Commission. There was an agenda as you came in, and hopefully you signed in. Mr. Sugar, if you'd call a roll. Yes, Mr. Nstrom. Here. Mr. Furby? Here. Ms. Jones? Here. Ms. Norman? Here. Mr. Romano? Here. Mr. Stoley. Here. And as much as we have six of seven, we have a quorum, so we shall proceed. If there is anyone in the audience, um and staff who wishes to address commission this evening, um, I'll swear you in at this point. If you'll stand. Please raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm under the penalty of perjury that the testimony you give tonight will be the truth? If so, answer I do. Thank you. Um just a reminder, if you're addressing the commission, please step up to the podium, um, state your name and address, and then make your comments. Um this point, ask any of the commissioners or staff if there's any additional correspondence you've received that we haven't been furnished already that should be entered into the record. No, no, there's none. All right, uh move on to agenda item five. Is there anyone here this evening who wishes to address the commission on anything that is not on tonight's agenda? This is Chairman Stolly. I just have one quick question for procedural. Um I understand that agenda item PC 2023, 676 was noticed as a public meeting, not a public hearing. I think we've addressed this issue before. I'm just curious as to when you would prefer a public comment be made. Comment will be made um during the meeting. Thank you. I'll address that. Okay. Um next item up is approval of the minutes from the last commission meeting dated August 28th. Um corrections. Mr. Soley, um, I would uh like to just remind all of the um planning commission members and city staff who may be participating in meetings that it's of vital importance to be sure that we are speaking into a microphone, and to that end, I would like to call the commission's attention to page three, where the um item number nine, other business. Um it says item B, but that is probably supposed to be an A. Uh perhaps it's not necessary if we don't have more than one item.

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