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Hudson Planning Commission Meeting – February 24, 2025

Planning Commission — Monday, February 24, 2025
BodyHudson, Ohio
SessionPlanning Commission
DateMonday, February 24, 2025
StatusFILED
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0:02

Call the meeting to order.

0:04

Tonight is uh February 19th, 2025.

0:08

It's 645 p.m.

0:10

This is the industrial design subcommittee here to review architectural review for case 25-71.

0:18

City of Hudson Public Works Facility.

0:21

Nick, you want to do an intro?

0:24

Yes, thank you.

0:25

I can give some brief background.

0:27

Um, this is the proposed City of Hudson Public Works Building.

0:31

Um, 5431 Hudson Drive.

0:34

It's a currently a vacant parcel.

0:36

It's approximately 30 acres.

0:38

Um the new building would take the operations, the current operations from Georgetown Road, and uh a bit of um the Hudson Public Power operations from Hudson Gate Drive, um, street maintenance, stormwater, water distribution, fleet, um, those types of items, and and uh build this uh facility for them.

0:59

Um we are here to review the design and make a recommendation uh to the overall planning commission is going to meet at 7:30.

1:07

Um just some notes.

1:09

The uh you have the the front portion is the office office building here.

1:15

Uh beyond that, you have large indoor areas for fleet maintenance, uh storage for the various subdepartments.

1:23

Um as you can see, the front uh front office was designed um with more fenestration, uh brick veneer water table, uh fiber cement siding.

1:33

There are samples here for for the subcommittee to review.

1:38

Uh beyond that in the rear, there are two cold storage hoop buildings uh at the rear of the property.

1:44

Um there is a chain leak fence proposed.

1:50

We made a recommendation to the planning commission to reduce that height to eight feet.

1:54

The material is permitted in this district and for this use, but um the height is a maximum of eight feet.

1:59

Um the the building is set back approximately 300 feet from Hudson Drive.

2:05

Uh we're there'll be keeping existing trees uh between the building and in the road, uh adding additional landscape mounting as well.

2:14

That's on some of the site plans you see.

2:17

Um so yep, we put together the the memo that you have or have received in the agenda.

2:24

And um other than that, I'll I'll turn it over to to Dan who's gonna say enhance my job for so I'm Dan Joyce, I'm with Brand Studter Carroll.

2:33

This is Nancy Nozick, also with brandsetter Carol, and we're gonna walk you through the proposal uh where it's at now.

2:40

Uh we've been developing this for approximately three to five months, working pretty closely with the city of Hudson and also trying to be sensitive to the residents' concerns.

2:51

There are a few residents in the area, and we are well aware of that.

2:55

One of the reasons for the 300-foot setback, and the plan is to keep that existing forest or those trees in place, so it's almost like this disappears.

3:06

Now, as Nick was saying, oh, we can go to the site plan.

3:10

So, as Nick was saying, uh, we do have the woods in between Hudson Drive and the complex itself, and we do have an access road that'll also serve us as our utility sort of highway.

3:22

So all utilities will come into one area.

3:25

Um as you approach the actual building itself.

3:28

I'm gonna move over here so I can point the mic.

3:31

Uh the administration area, as Nick was saying, is right here.

3:35

We'll have limited spots for visitors because we know it's not a heavily trafficked building or residents.

3:42

Um the rest is employee parking.

3:44

And we tried you order.

3:47

We tried to um basically hide the parking as best as possible with trees and things of that nature.

3:55

We also are including a rain garden and a pollinator garden just to address any sustainability concerns as you pull up to the complex.

4:03

Basically, this is a huge hulking complex, and we are aware of that.

4:07

So we're trying to bring it down to the pedestrian level as best we can.

4:11

So if you go back to the rendering, you can see that the larger buildings have been directed towards the back of the site.

4:19

And as you get closer to Hudson Drive, the building drops in scale.

4:23

And we added a lot of fenestration uh to make it feel a bit more, I don't want to say homey, but familiar to people when they pull up.

4:31

It also looks like it'd be a nicer place to work rather than just a giant pre-engineered building.

4:37

So this is the front entry.

4:39

Uh we did have or we did demarcate the main entry uh with a lot of glazing to kind of make it more inviting, as well as some classical elements.

4:48

So you have um these columns there, um, as well as we try to warm up the facade with brick, and as you can see, some of the samples there are what we had in mind.

5:04

It does not have to be gray.

5:05

I'm a millennial.

5:06

I love gray.

5:08

We can do any color you want, but we're shooting for more of a neutral.

5:12

So that's why we're showing gray in here.

5:15

Behind admin, you actually have an inventory area, but we threw up a clear story there to also kind of break down that mass.

5:23

And the rest of the mask kind of disappears.

5:26

So if you're just a pedestrian coming up to the building, you don't see that.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Public Works█████████████████████████████████████████████45%
Engineering And Infrastructure██████████████████████22%
Procedural█████████9%
Stormwater Management█████5%
Land Use Regulation█████5%
Noise Mitigation███3%
Community Engagement███3%
Planned Development██2%
Transportation Safety██2%
Summary of Proceedings

Hudson Planning Commission Meeting – February 24, 2025

The Hudson Planning Commission met on February 24, 2025, at 7:30 PM (with a prior Industrial Design Subcommittee session at 6:45 PM) to consider a major site plan request for the City of Hudson's new Public Works Facility at 5431 Hudson Drive. The Commission unanimously approved the application subject to 15 conditions, including architectural refinements, stormwater modifications, parking reductions, and additional engineering details.

Industrial Design Subcommittee (6:45 PM)

  • The Industrial Design Subcommittee (IDS) reviewed Case PC 2025-71 for architectural recommendations. Members: Mr. Innamorato (Planning Commission), Ms. Marzulla and Mr. Workley (AHBR).
  • Applicant representatives Nancy Nozik and Dan Joyce (Brandstetter Carroll) presented the proposed exterior materials, fenestration, and site layout.
  • Discussion focused on: matching siding and garage door colors, lowering the front entry roof to avoid water issues, using smooth-textured fiber cement siding, reducing gray tones in favor of classic colors, and sound mitigation.
  • The IDS voted unanimously (3-0) to recommend approval with conditions: use smooth fiber cement siding for the front office mass; use darker shaded siding with a lighter base; lower the front entry roof to align with the adjacent roof; and match garage door color to siding.

Consent Calendar

  • Approval of Minutes (February 10, 2025): Approved as amended (corrected spelling of Mr. Nystrom's name and noted Ms. McCoy's abstention from prior meeting). Vote: 5-0.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • No members of the public appeared to testify. Written public comments (received via letters) were reviewed during discussion. The applicant and staff addressed concerns about traffic, noise, lighting, property values, and landscaping. The applicant stated that the traffic study showed no need for turn lanes, and that proposed berms and landscaping would mitigate noise and visual impacts. Staff noted that a public engagement website exists and that neighbors within 300 feet received courtesy notices.

Discussion Items

  • PC 2025-71 – Major Site Plan: City of Hudson Public Works Facility
    • Staff (Nick Sugar) introduced the 30.7-acre parcel, proposing an 80,000 sq ft main building plus two cold storage buildings (22,000-26,000 sq ft each), a gravel laydown yard, fueling station, and parking. The project would relocate city services from Georgetown Road and partially from Hudson Gate Drive.
    • Applicant team presented detailed site plan, building elevations, landscaping, stormwater management, and traffic study. They noted compliance with zoning standards (District 8 – Industrial) and substantial setbacks (~300 ft from Hudson Drive).
    • Key discussion points:
      • Parking: Commissioner McCoy argued that 62 spaces for 35 employees was excessive and urged reduction to minimize impervious surface. Applicant agreed to review elimination of one row of parking on the south side.
      • Stormwater: The dry detention basin was modified to a wet basin within the wetland setback per code. Engineer Kevin Noble explained the linear design to protect steep slopes and that the basin would function as a sediment basin during construction, then be converted.
      • Noise & Tree Clearing: Commissioners questioned the need to clear trees for berms. Applicant explained that berms (4-6 ft high) would provide better sound and visual barriers than existing scrub trees, and that topsoil would be reused on site.
      • Engineering Details: Commissioner Nystrom pointed out missing rim/invert elevations on storm and sanitary sewer plans, and incomplete contour lines on the southeast corner. City Engineer David Rapp confirmed final engineering review would occur at zoning certificate stage.
      • Recycling Hours: Commissioner Norman noted that refuse collection code prohibits activities between 6 PM and 7 AM; staff recommended conditioning that recycling operate within performance standards (Sec. 1207.10).
    • Industrial Design Subcommittee recommendations were accepted (darker siding, lowered roof, smooth fiber cement, matched door colors).
    • The Commission expressed overall satisfaction with the design and appreciated the effort to balance budget, neighbors' concerns, and operational needs.

Key Outcomes

  • Motion to Approve: Mr. Romano made a motion to approve the Major Site Plan (Case 2025-71) with conditions from staff (items 1-11), plus two additional conditions: (12) redesign parking/pavement to eliminate one full row of parking on the south side; (13) require recycling center operations to comply with performance standards (1207.10).

  • Amendment: Mr. Nystrom moved to add conditions (14) provide rim and invert elevations for sanitary and storm sewers per submittal requirements, and (15) adjust and revise proposed grading contours at the southeast corner of the gravel laydown area. The amendment was seconded and passed 5-0.

  • Final Vote: The amended motion passed unanimously (5-0) with all 15 conditions:

    1. Lot consolidation prior to zoning certificate.
    2. Acceptance of IDS architectural recommendations (a-d).
    3. Modify dry detention basin to wet basin within wetland setback.
    4. Relocate fencing outside wetland setback.
    5. Depict maximum fence height of 8 ft.
    6. Revise landscaping to include street trees, shrubs at entrance, evergreens on mounds.
    7. Reduce lighting to code-required levels.
    8. Address Assistant City Engineer's comments (Feb 14, 2025).
    9. Address Fire Marshal's comments (Feb 18, 2025).
    10. Redesign parking to eliminate one row on south side.
    11. Operate recycling within performance standards (1207.10).
    12. Include rim and invert elevations on storm/sanitary plans.
    13. Revise grading contours at southeast corner.
    14. Install silt fencing to protect clearing limits.
    15. No clearing/construction until preconstruction meeting and zoning certificate issued.
  • Other Business: Chair Norman noted that the State Route 91 Traffic Corridor Study (250 pages) was not on the city website; staff agreed to make it accessible.

  • Staff Update: Upcoming LDC amendments to be reviewed: (1) limiting townhomes to District 5, (2) allowing more flexibility on east Darrow Road, and (3) expanding AHBR consultant options. These will be discussed at the March 31 Planning Commission meeting.

  • Adjournment: Motion carried 5-0 at 9:32 PM.

Meeting Transcript

Call the meeting to order. Tonight is uh February 19th, 2025. It's 645 p.m. This is the industrial design subcommittee here to review architectural review for case 25-71. City of Hudson Public Works Facility. Nick, you want to do an intro? Yes, thank you. I can give some brief background. Um, this is the proposed City of Hudson Public Works Building. Um, 5431 Hudson Drive. It's a currently a vacant parcel. It's approximately 30 acres. Um the new building would take the operations, the current operations from Georgetown Road, and uh a bit of um the Hudson Public Power operations from Hudson Gate Drive, um, street maintenance, stormwater, water distribution, fleet, um, those types of items, and and uh build this uh facility for them. Um we are here to review the design and make a recommendation uh to the overall planning commission is going to meet at 7:30. Um just some notes. The uh you have the the front portion is the office office building here. Uh beyond that, you have large indoor areas for fleet maintenance, uh storage for the various subdepartments. Um as you can see, the front uh front office was designed um with more fenestration, uh brick veneer water table, uh fiber cement siding. There are samples here for for the subcommittee to review. Uh beyond that in the rear, there are two cold storage hoop buildings uh at the rear of the property. Um there is a chain leak fence proposed. We made a recommendation to the planning commission to reduce that height to eight feet. The material is permitted in this district and for this use, but um the height is a maximum of eight feet. Um the the building is set back approximately 300 feet from Hudson Drive. Uh we're there'll be keeping existing trees uh between the building and in the road, uh adding additional landscape mounting as well. That's on some of the site plans you see. Um so yep, we put together the the memo that you have or have received in the agenda. And um other than that, I'll I'll turn it over to to Dan who's gonna say enhance my job for so I'm Dan Joyce, I'm with Brand Studter Carroll. This is Nancy Nozick, also with brandsetter Carol, and we're gonna walk you through the proposal uh where it's at now. Uh we've been developing this for approximately three to five months, working pretty closely with the city of Hudson and also trying to be sensitive to the residents' concerns. There are a few residents in the area, and we are well aware of that. One of the reasons for the 300-foot setback, and the plan is to keep that existing forest or those trees in place, so it's almost like this disappears. Now, as Nick was saying, oh, we can go to the site plan. So, as Nick was saying, uh, we do have the woods in between Hudson Drive and the complex itself, and we do have an access road that'll also serve us as our utility sort of highway. So all utilities will come into one area. Um as you approach the actual building itself. I'm gonna move over here so I can point the mic. Uh the administration area, as Nick was saying, is right here. We'll have limited spots for visitors because we know it's not a heavily trafficked building or residents. Um the rest is employee parking. And we tried you order. We tried to um basically hide the parking as best as possible with trees and things of that nature. We also are including a rain garden and a pollinator garden just to address any sustainability concerns as you pull up to the complex. Basically, this is a huge hulking complex, and we are aware of that. So we're trying to bring it down to the pedestrian level as best we can. So if you go back to the rendering, you can see that the larger buildings have been directed towards the back of the site. And as you get closer to Hudson Drive, the building drops in scale. And we added a lot of fenestration uh to make it feel a bit more, I don't want to say homey, but familiar to people when they pull up. It also looks like it'd be a nicer place to work rather than just a giant pre-engineered building. So this is the front entry.

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