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Joint Board Training Session for AHBR, BZBA, and Planning Commission – May 8, 2026

Planning Commission — Friday, May 8, 2026
BodyHudson, Ohio
SessionPlanning Commission
DateFriday, May 8, 2026
StatusFILED
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We're going to go ahead and uh call our uh joint uh LVC board uh training and workshop to order tonight.

0:08

Greg is going to be writing down some uh some things and tracking some time.

0:13

Um for those of you who don't know me.

0:14

My name is Marshall Pitchburg, and I am the uh city solicitor, which means I'm the city lawyer, and we'll be I uh would say facilitating the conversation uh tonight.

0:25

I don't think it's intended to be a uh two-hour uh monologue from me.

0:30

I certainly hope that uh this turns into a conversation uh with input from from everybody.

0:36

Uh at least I will tell you, and I'll turn the floor over to Dr.

0:39

Bird here in a minute, but that was the uh the impetus uh for the conversation tonight to try to get feedback, direct feedback, uh, not only to build relationships but to understand what each other uh does in your individual role.

0:52

So, Dr.

0:53

Burke?

0:53

Okay, thank you.

0:54

Um I had to write stuff down because otherwise we'll just go on and on and on and um my name is Mike Byrd.

1:01

I'm a ward for council member and also the president of council, and I just want to uh thank you all for being here.

1:08

This is one more evening away from your home, your families, and uh and you guys have enough to do, and we appreciate you making time time to be here.

1:19

Um this is one of those ideas that it's like oh my gosh, why didn't you have why haven't we done this before?

1:26

Um it just makes so much sense to get all three of your boards together and kind of understand what one does and what one can't do, and um just just need each other understand the processes, the challenges that we all go through, and I think that that kind of will build and make us a better, more effective team and a better community as well.

1:53

Um I'm a um I'm a really big believer in continuing education.

1:58

I know it's it's really big in medicine, and I know um it's huge in all most uh most professions, most fields, and so I think this is a this is a a start of it, and I think we want to think that you know this is we're gonna we're gonna build on something like this.

2:17

What how else can we um you know continue to stay fresh?

2:22

What's the latest in these in these uh in BCBA and planning and art board um and keep up on things and and so um this is just kind of a uh a start.

2:36

We want to get your feedback after this.

2:39

Um what what was good, what could be done better, um looking to the future of uh you know our there's some online training opportunities, there's uh perhaps you know experts in the field that we could come in and talk with us at a later time, um, and then we could also have continue to have further dialogue with the uh with the solicitor.

3:02

So again, thank you very much for being here.

3:07

So this will be our uh agenda tonight.

3:10

You also have a uh one of these uh in front of you, uh but I thought we would start uh by going around the room uh and sharing uh your name, uh the board that uh you serve on and uh how long you've uh served on the board.

3:26

Uh Nick wanted us to also have you share what we like about Nick, what your favorite part about Nick will be if we don't uh we don't have to do that.

3:33

As long as you want.

3:35

Just uh your name, uh the board that you serve on, and how long you've been in your role.

3:39

Uh we can start your core.

3:41

Sure.

3:41

Um I'm Corey Scott.

3:42

Um part of BCBA, been on a bit over a year.

3:47

I'm Lydia Bronstein.

3:49

Um I'm on the zoning board as well with Corey, and I've been serving since 2021 and elected chair this year.

3:58

Uh my name is Andrew Brown.

4:00

I'm on the architecture and historic board of review.

4:03

I'm the newest member.

4:04

I started in I believe August of 2025.

4:09

And I'm Alan Morzula, I'm on the same board, architectural historic board of review.

4:14

And I started in 2007 with the break after three four-year terms.

4:20

Uh so my way up to 19.

4:24

Something like that.

4:26

My name's Fred in Avarado.

4:28

I'm on a planning commission, and this is my third year.

4:32

I'm Jamie Shaninski.

4:33

I'm also on the architectural board.

4:35

Um, and I've been on a two years this summer.

4:39

I'm Jesse Herbert.

4:40

I'm on Planning Commission.

4:42

Um, it's been just about a year.

4:44

My favorite thing about Nick is he always answers my emails.

4:50

Um David N Planning Commission, uh, my sixth year, and um fun fact, my wife taught Nick Sugar.

5:06

Oh Nick.

5:08

I'm Sarah Norman.

5:09

I am on the Planning Commission.

5:11

I joined, this is the beginning of my fifth year.

5:15

Dave was the chair immediately preceding me last year's my first year as chair, and I'm continuing this year as well.

5:23

And I like the fact that Nick has been responsive when I told him to do things my way.

5:30

Just real quick.

5:34

I was on the ARC board before this role.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Land Use Regulation███████████████████████████████31%
Public Engagement█████████████████████████████29%
Procedural████████████12%
Public Records███████████11%
Personnel Matters█████████9%
Community Engagement███████7%
Engineering And Infrastructure█1%
Summary of Proceedings

Joint Board Training Session for Architectural and Historic Board of Review, Board of Zoning and Building Appeals, and Planning Commission – May 8, 2026

This was a joint training workshop for members of the Architectural and Historic Board of Review (AHBR), the Board of Zoning and Building Appeals (BZBA), and the Planning Commission (PC). City Solicitor Marshall Pitchburg facilitated the session, which aimed to improve inter-board understanding, discuss onboarding practices, review the quasi-judicial responsibilities of each board, consider a new code of conduct, and refine the handling of findings of fact. Council President Mike Byrd opened the meeting, emphasizing the value of continuing education for board members.

Discussion Items

  • Onboarding Process Improvements:

    • Members suggested several enhancements to the current onboarding for new board members, including: providing a flowchart of the application and appeal process; offering case studies (real or hypothetical) that walk through the decision-making steps; allowing new members to shadow outgoing or experienced members; incorporating an exit interview to capture institutional knowledge; and creating a “chair packet” with guidance on Robert’s Rules of Order and meeting management.
    • Sarah Norman (PC) recommended that new members be briefed on active applications before their first meeting to avoid being unprepared. Bob Dyer (BZBA) proposed asking candidates during interviews whether they have watched a meeting of the board they are applying for, to gauge their familiarity.
  • Powers and Duties of Quasi-Judicial Boards:

    • Pitchburg explained that all three boards act in a quasi-judicial capacity, meaning they must protect the record, base decisions only on evidence presented in hearings, and avoid ex parte communications or social media discussions about pending cases.
    • He stressed that board members should not post about pending cases on social media and should avoid discussing cases outside of public meetings. A caution was raised about accidentally establishing a quorum through social media interactions.
    • The unique roles were outlined: AHBR reviews architectural characteristics (new structures, alterations, fences, signs, demolitions); PC advises council on land development code changes and holds hearings on conditional use and site plan applications; BZBA hears variance requests and administrative appeals (now under a more deferential standard that presumes the validity of the original decision).
    • A question arose about whether board members with professional expertise (e.g., architects) can serve as expert witnesses; it was clarified that they cannot, but they can ask staff or applicants for information.
  • Code of Conduct Discussion:

    • Council President Byrd and Pitchburg led a discussion on drafting a formal code of conduct for all boards, commissions, and committees, modeled after city council’s existing code and Roberts Rules of Order.
    • Key points included: maintaining civility toward each other, staff, and the public; avoiding personal attacks and staying on the merits; and addressing disruptive behavior (Ohio law makes it a fourth-degree misdemeanor to disrupt a meeting).
    • Sarah Norman (PC) raised concerns about how “civility” is defined, noting that accountability (e.g., questioning a witness’s credibility) should not be conflated with incivility. Bob Dyer suggested focusing on the merits and avoiding character attacks. Others stressed the importance of tone and professional conduct.
    • It was noted that the code should also address interactions between boards (e.g., avoiding derogatory comments about another board’s decision).
  • Findings of Fact Discussion:

    • Pitchburg explained that the Land Development Code (LDC) requires written findings of fact for every decision, but this has not always been followed. He proposed a change: only require written findings when a decision is appealed. Under this model, staff would draft proposed findings for the board to review and adopt at its next meeting.
    • The BZBA demonstrated with a video example of a variance motion that included explicit findings on the seven Duncan factors. This verbal approach, if recorded, could serve as a basis for later written findings if needed.
    • PC members noted the complexity of their standards (e.g., conditional use applications with multiple factors) and expressed concern that requiring detailed verbal findings on every decision would be burdensome. Some supported the “only on appeal” approach.
    • AHBR members indicated they currently only prepare written findings for denials, which is consistent with the proposed change.
    • A key concern raised by Chelsea McCoy (PC) was the potential for due process issues if an appellant does not have the benefit of written findings before filing an appeal. The discussion included the possibility of allowing appellants to supplement their objections after findings are issued.
    • The group discussed creating “cheat sheets” or standardized templates for the required findings for each type of application, similar to laminated sheets used by judges.
    • It was noted that if findings are insufficient, the BZBA can remand the case to the original board for clarification, which can delay the process.

Key Outcomes

  • No formal votes were taken, but the following next steps were identified:
    • The administration will continue to develop a formal code of conduct for boards, commissions, and committees, incorporating feedback from the session.
    • Pitchburg will draft a rule change to limit written findings of fact to cases that are appealed, and will bring it to city council for consideration. The draft will be shared with the boards for comment.
    • Staff will explore the creation of flowcharts, cheat sheets, and case study materials to aid in onboarding and decision-making.
    • Future training sessions will be scheduled (likely in the summer) to delve deeper into topics such as record-keeping, ethics, and the specific standards for each board.

Meeting Transcript

We're going to go ahead and uh call our uh joint uh LVC board uh training and workshop to order tonight. Greg is going to be writing down some uh some things and tracking some time. Um for those of you who don't know me. My name is Marshall Pitchburg, and I am the uh city solicitor, which means I'm the city lawyer, and we'll be I uh would say facilitating the conversation uh tonight. I don't think it's intended to be a uh two-hour uh monologue from me. I certainly hope that uh this turns into a conversation uh with input from from everybody. Uh at least I will tell you, and I'll turn the floor over to Dr. Bird here in a minute, but that was the uh the impetus uh for the conversation tonight to try to get feedback, direct feedback, uh, not only to build relationships but to understand what each other uh does in your individual role. So, Dr. Burke? Okay, thank you. Um I had to write stuff down because otherwise we'll just go on and on and on and um my name is Mike Byrd. I'm a ward for council member and also the president of council, and I just want to uh thank you all for being here. This is one more evening away from your home, your families, and uh and you guys have enough to do, and we appreciate you making time time to be here. Um this is one of those ideas that it's like oh my gosh, why didn't you have why haven't we done this before? Um it just makes so much sense to get all three of your boards together and kind of understand what one does and what one can't do, and um just just need each other understand the processes, the challenges that we all go through, and I think that that kind of will build and make us a better, more effective team and a better community as well. Um I'm a um I'm a really big believer in continuing education. I know it's it's really big in medicine, and I know um it's huge in all most uh most professions, most fields, and so I think this is a this is a a start of it, and I think we want to think that you know this is we're gonna we're gonna build on something like this. What how else can we um you know continue to stay fresh? What's the latest in these in these uh in BCBA and planning and art board um and keep up on things and and so um this is just kind of a uh a start. We want to get your feedback after this. Um what what was good, what could be done better, um looking to the future of uh you know our there's some online training opportunities, there's uh perhaps you know experts in the field that we could come in and talk with us at a later time, um, and then we could also have continue to have further dialogue with the uh with the solicitor. So again, thank you very much for being here. So this will be our uh agenda tonight. You also have a uh one of these uh in front of you, uh but I thought we would start uh by going around the room uh and sharing uh your name, uh the board that uh you serve on and uh how long you've uh served on the board. Uh Nick wanted us to also have you share what we like about Nick, what your favorite part about Nick will be if we don't uh we don't have to do that. As long as you want. Just uh your name, uh the board that you serve on, and how long you've been in your role. Uh we can start your core. Sure. Um I'm Corey Scott. Um part of BCBA, been on a bit over a year. I'm Lydia Bronstein. Um I'm on the zoning board as well with Corey, and I've been serving since 2021 and elected chair this year. Uh my name is Andrew Brown. I'm on the architecture and historic board of review. I'm the newest member. I started in I believe August of 2025. And I'm Alan Morzula, I'm on the same board, architectural historic board of review. And I started in 2007 with the break after three four-year terms. Uh so my way up to 19. Something like that. My name's Fred in Avarado. I'm on a planning commission, and this is my third year. I'm Jamie Shaninski. I'm also on the architectural board. Um, and I've been on a two years this summer. I'm Jesse Herbert. I'm on Planning Commission. Um, it's been just about a year.

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