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Kirkland Planning Commission Meeting - July 25, 2024: Comprehensive Plan Neighborhood Plan Amendments

Planning CommissionThursday, July 25, 2024
BodyKirkland, Washington
SessionPlanning Commission
DateThursday, July 25, 2024
StatusFILED
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Transcript — Verbatim
1:12

Medea here, Scott Racer.

1:15

Angela Rasman.

1:17

Here.

1:17

Rodney Rutherford.

1:19

Here.

1:20

Sorry, did I hear my name?

1:26

Okay.

1:30

All right.

1:31

Let's see.

1:31

Let me pull up my agenda here.

1:36

And all right.

1:44

Well, uh my copy of the agenda is not appearing, but I think the next thing is items for the audience, right?

1:52

All right.

1:53

So uh this time we have a handy guide on the screen uh to help um remind us of uh the policies, especially for public comment, um and just to read it aloud.

2:07

Each speaker will be limited to three minutes.

2:08

There is a timer up on the uh up on the podium there.

2:13

Green means uh you have more than 30 seconds left.

2:17

It's yeah, it's a three minute timer.

2:19

Uh when it turns yellow, you have less than 30 seconds, and red means that your time has run out.

2:25

Uh please direct your comments to the planning commission.

2:28

Refrain from any profane threatening, harassing and or abuse of language or gestures towards anyone because we want to make sure that everyone feels comfortable and safe uh to bring their comments to the commission and make their voice heard.

2:42

And uh finally, in that vein, please refrain refrain from clapping, cheering, booing, or uh, et cetera, for any of the comments.

2:50

So to start with, um, I'd like to ask uh ask Forrest, White House, followed by Luke Travis will be after him.

3:01

Hey there.

3:02

Uh good evening, everyone.

3:03

Um I prepared some notes ahead of time, but then decided I didn't like them.

3:08

So I'm gonna be shooting from the hip tonight.

3:10

Um so I'm sorry if I ramble at all.

3:13

Um I wanted to talk first a little bit about traffic.

3:17

Um I've seen traffic come up a lot in our discussions about bringing housing to Kirkland.

3:24

Um I also want to say I moved to Kirkland fairly recently, just over a year ago.

3:30

Um, and to get here today, I rode a bus and I walked up the hill from the transit center, and my contribution to traffic was zero.

3:40

And that's a very typical day for me.

3:43

Um even when I am in a car, it's because I'm carpooling, and that's pretty rare as it is.

3:49

Um so I think I think back to before I moved here, like there must have been planning commission meetings then and people must have been concerned about people moving to Kirkland.

4:01

And they must have brought up traffic as this inevitable thing, uh, and a reason why we can't have new people moving to the city.

4:10

Um well, here I am.

4:12

I I'm live here and I my contribution is effectively zero.

4:17

Um I realize not everybody is going to do that.

4:20

Um, but I also want to point out that uh everybody who uses a car, whether they are current or future residents, they when they get into their car, they contribute to traffic.

4:33

Um I think it's incumbent upon everyone to minimize their impact whenever they can.

4:40

So I don't think it's fair to have uh a double standard whereby current residents aren't expected to do anything to mitigate their impact, but possible future residents uh should not be allowed to to live here because we won't allow new housing to be built, because they might do the same thing that current residents are already doing.

5:04

Um just in conclusion on that, I I don't think that's a great uh way to make decisions on the housing future in Kirkland.

5:14

Um that was my main point.

5:16

I also just want to say uh express my support for the the Parmac development in Totem Lake.

5:22

Um as I've said before, I love that it is right on the CKC, which, you know, tying into what I was saying about traffic gives a great alternative.

5:33

Um I think the city is doing everything in its power to give future residents the alternatives they need to minimize their impact.

5:42

So thank you very much.

5:45

Thank you.

5:46

Uh next is Luke, followed by uh Larry Waldman.

5:53

Good evening, everyone.

5:55

Lately I've been hearing some skepticism around the economics of housing.

5:58

So I wanted to speak to that tonight.

6:00

I think we're all pretty familiar with the idea of supply and demand.

6:04

If demand rises, but supply doesn't keep up, you get higher prices.

6:08

You can see this in the summer of air conditioners.

6:10

Their price on sites like eBay and Craigslist skyrockets to profit off the mismatch between supply and demand.

6:16

However, some people have doubts that this relationship holds true for housing.

6:21

This is a reasonable thing to have reasonable doubt to have.

6:23

It's troubling to see escalating costs, but when new houses get built, they're at market rate, not below it.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Planning And Zoning██████████████████18%
Procedural████████████12%
Comprehensive Planning████████████12%
Community Engagement███████████11%
Transportation███████7%
Housing███████7%
Public Engagement██████6%
Urban Planning██████6%
Affordable Housing█████5%
Summary of Proceedings

Kirkland Planning Commission Meeting Summary: July 25, 2024

The Kirkland Planning Commission held a continued public hearing on July 25, 2024, from 6:01 PM to 9:56 PM, primarily to deliberate and vote on neighborhood plan amendments for the 2044 Comprehensive Plan, including the Par Mac – Totem Lake Community-Initiated Amendment Request. The meeting featured extensive public testimony, staff presentations, and commission deliberations on multiple neighborhood plans. The commission adopted most plans with minor amendments, and set a timeline for further public input on the Market Street Corridor Plan.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Forrest Whitehouse expressed support for the Par Mac development and noted that new residents can minimize traffic impacts by using transit.
  • Luke Travis argued that increasing housing supply helps affordability, citing examples like Austin and Tokyo, and urged Kirkland to be part of the solution.
  • Larry Waldman expressed concern that the Comprehensive Plan lacks comprehensiveness and focuses too heavily on growth without detailing trade-offs.
  • Jennifer Ohayon questioned the proposal to allow 50–200 units per acre in single-family neighborhoods, stating that the commission appears pro-density and does not represent the majority of residents.
  • Martin Stoddart objected to proposed land use changes, arguing they exceed growth mandates and threaten neighborhood character.
  • Liz Hunt criticized the lack of transparency in the Market Street Neighborhood Plan, noting that the public was not informed about major upzoning along transit corridors.
  • Ken MacKenzie opposed proposals that enforce uniformity in building design, advocating for variety and architectural expression.
  • Sarah Jokar Deris displayed a photo of a 7-story building behind her home and expressed concern about Par Mac development overshadowing her property.
  • Kathleen Miller noted a lack of vision and consistency, and stated that traffic on Market Street is already severe.
  • Jane Ainbinder (Co-Chair, Norkirk Neighborhood Association) recommended proper infrastructure—sidewalks, streetlights—to support increased density.
  • Rich Nelson expressed concern about 4–6 story buildings proposed west of Market Street.
  • Chris Brenneke suggested the city mail notices about proposed changes, as he had not received any communication.
  • Bryan Olay asked for clearer goals and metrics for success in the Comprehensive Plan.
  • Jill Stoddart argued that the 10-minute neighborhood concept does not match economic realities, and that affordable housing requirements should apply to all new developments, not just large projects.
  • Lobak Kinea questioned the lack of infrastructure planning and data justifying additional density.
  • Judy Ford expressed concern about lack of transparency and asked how long each commissioner has lived in Kirkland.
  • Christine Krasinski criticized the lack of transparency, perceived pro-growth bias, and argued that high density does not reduce car use.
  • Ishu Shu commented on affordability and lack of transparency or vision.
  • Barbara Loomis urged commissioners to not always approve staff recommendations, citing a top-down approach.
  • Mary Jessen criticized the lack of communication and transparency.
  • Ingrid Salmon (online) asked if there would be an opportunity to comment on changes to the Finn Hill Neighborhood Plan; Chair Rutherford responded that the next step is City Council review.

Discussion Items

  • Staff Presentation: Senior Planner LeAndra Baker-Lewis reviewed the status of neighborhood plans, written testimony themes, and sample edits. Deputy Director Allison Zike presented the Par Mac community-initiated amendment request, which proposes expanding the housing incentive area to allow housing (up to 65 feet) on additional parcels, but not increasing height limits. Director Adam Weinstein responded to commissioner questions.
  • Commission Deliberations: The commission discussed each neighborhood plan individually, focusing on amendments related to design regulations, sustainability, cost of building housing, parking policies, and transit-oriented development. Key discussions included:
    • The Par Mac request: commissioners clarified that approving the Totem Lake Business District Plan would only allow housing up to existing height limits, not the requested 1200 units (which would require future zoning code amendments).
    • The Lakeview Neighborhood Plan: debated amendments to policies L-8.6 (building height), L-10.1 (open space), L-7.3 (parking monitoring), and L-9.1 (parking language).
    • The Bridle Trails Neighborhood Plan: amendments added references to Snyder's Corner park, sewer infrastructure, and bike lane gaps.
    • The Everest Neighborhood Plan: amendment to re-add specific height limits in Policy EV-10.
  • Process and Transparency: Commissioners discussed improving public outreach, including mailing notices, engaging neighborhood associations, and using social media. Commissioner Jacobson proposed a process for sharing amendment ideas with the commission ahead of meetings.

Key Outcomes

  • Totem Lake Business District Plan (including Par Mac CAR): Adopted 6-1 (Commissioner Madeya opposed).
  • Rose Hill Neighborhood Plan: Adopted 7-0.
  • Bridle Trails Neighborhood Plan: Adopted 7-0 with amendments to the vision statement, Policy BT-4, and Policy BT-20 (adding references to park, sewer, and bike lanes).
  • Lakeview Neighborhood Plan: Adopted 7-0 with amendments:
    • Amendment to add "open space" to Policy L-10.1 (passed 7-0).
    • Amendment to strike Policy L-7.3 (failed 1-6).
    • Amendment to strike parking language in Policy L-9.1 (passed 7-0).
    • Direction to staff to add "east trail" to pedestrian/bicycle circulation policy.
  • Moss Bay Neighborhood Plan: Adopted 7-0.
  • Everest Neighborhood Plan: Adopted 7-0 with an amendment to Policy EV-10 re-adding specific height limits (passed 7-0).
  • NE 85th Street Station Subarea Plan: Adopted 7-0.
  • Norkirk Neighborhood Plan: Adopted 7-0.
  • Finn Hill Neighborhood Plan: Adopted 7-0, with direction to staff to revise the historical context section based on input from the Finn Hill Neighborhood Alliance.
  • Public Hearing Closed at 9:37 PM.
  • Next Meeting: August 8, 2024, at 6:00 PM, with a public hearing on miscellaneous code amendments and a study session on the housing element and Houghton Village development plan.
  • Upcoming: Continued public hearing on the Land Use Element and Market Street Corridor Plan on August 22, 2024, with spoken testimony allowed.

Meeting Transcript

Medea here, Scott Racer. Angela Rasman. Here. Rodney Rutherford. Here. Sorry, did I hear my name? Okay. All right. Let's see. Let me pull up my agenda here. And all right. Well, uh my copy of the agenda is not appearing, but I think the next thing is items for the audience, right? All right. So uh this time we have a handy guide on the screen uh to help um remind us of uh the policies, especially for public comment, um and just to read it aloud. Each speaker will be limited to three minutes. There is a timer up on the uh up on the podium there. Green means uh you have more than 30 seconds left. It's yeah, it's a three minute timer. Uh when it turns yellow, you have less than 30 seconds, and red means that your time has run out. Uh please direct your comments to the planning commission. Refrain from any profane threatening, harassing and or abuse of language or gestures towards anyone because we want to make sure that everyone feels comfortable and safe uh to bring their comments to the commission and make their voice heard. And uh finally, in that vein, please refrain refrain from clapping, cheering, booing, or uh, et cetera, for any of the comments. So to start with, um, I'd like to ask uh ask Forrest, White House, followed by Luke Travis will be after him. Hey there. Uh good evening, everyone. Um I prepared some notes ahead of time, but then decided I didn't like them. So I'm gonna be shooting from the hip tonight. Um so I'm sorry if I ramble at all. Um I wanted to talk first a little bit about traffic. Um I've seen traffic come up a lot in our discussions about bringing housing to Kirkland. Um I also want to say I moved to Kirkland fairly recently, just over a year ago. Um, and to get here today, I rode a bus and I walked up the hill from the transit center, and my contribution to traffic was zero. And that's a very typical day for me. Um even when I am in a car, it's because I'm carpooling, and that's pretty rare as it is. Um so I think I think back to before I moved here, like there must have been planning commission meetings then and people must have been concerned about people moving to Kirkland. And they must have brought up traffic as this inevitable thing, uh, and a reason why we can't have new people moving to the city. Um well, here I am. I I'm live here and I my contribution is effectively zero. Um I realize not everybody is going to do that. Um, but I also want to point out that uh everybody who uses a car, whether they are current or future residents, they when they get into their car, they contribute to traffic. Um I think it's incumbent upon everyone to minimize their impact whenever they can. So I don't think it's fair to have uh a double standard whereby current residents aren't expected to do anything to mitigate their impact, but possible future residents uh should not be allowed to to live here because we won't allow new housing to be built, because they might do the same thing that current residents are already doing. Um just in conclusion on that, I I don't think that's a great uh way to make decisions on the housing future in Kirkland. Um that was my main point. I also just want to say uh express my support for the the Parmac development in Totem Lake. Um as I've said before, I love that it is right on the CKC, which, you know, tying into what I was saying about traffic gives a great alternative. Um I think the city is doing everything in its power to give future residents the alternatives they need to minimize their impact. So thank you very much. Thank you. Uh next is Luke, followed by uh Larry Waldman.

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