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Equity, Community Affairs, Housing, Health, and Education Committee Meeting on Substance Use, Abuse and Addiction Awareness - March 8, 2023

Metro Council & CommitteesWednesday, March 8, 2023
BodyLouisville, Kentucky
SessionMetro Council & Committees
DateWednesday, March 8, 2023
StatusFILED
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0:00

That gun is then auctioned off by the Kentucky state police.

0:06

These guns that are used to commit crimes end up back on our streets.

0:11

And too often, guns that are used to commit crimes are used to commit another crime.

0:17

That needs to stop.

0:18

This gun was used by a 17-year-old child in Louisville who attempted to kill another 17-year-old child.

0:28

Right now, state law forbids us from outright destroying these guns.

0:33

That's frustrating, disappointing, and dangerous.

0:37

When we seize drugs in our city, we don't put those drugs back on the street and give them to a different drug dealer.

0:44

We destroy them.

0:46

Why don't we do the same thing with guns?

0:50

I want our city to do our part and permanently destroy illegal guns that have been used to commit crimes once in our city.

1:01

Once is too many.

1:15

That is somebody that wants to I don't know if I don't know.

1:39

I like solving problems.

2:34

I'm a poor man living in a rich man's work hungry bunch.

2:37

We were the good Lord knocked at our door.

2:49

I usually spend my money on equipment.

2:55

No, Chin Chung.

2:57

I like to build things.

3:47

Oh, we got another minute.

3:49

Yeah.

3:52

Oh, yeah.

3:56

Metro TV, we're gonna start in one minute.

4:33

Okay, are we ready?

4:54

Good afternoon.

4:55

Uh this is equities, community affairs, healthy, housing, health, and education.

5:02

My name is Stuart Benson.

5:03

I'm I'm vice chair of this committee.

5:06

Dr.

5:06

Barbara Shanklin, she's got an excused absence, as does uh Shakori Arthur with us today.

5:14

We got uh Tammy Hawkins, um Andrew Owens, uh Dan Siles, Jr.

5:22

Um, and Betsy Rue.

5:25

Um, I think.

5:27

And oh, and Marilyn Parker.

5:30

Thank you, Marilyn.

5:31

So today our topic is uh substantial substance youth abuse uh addiction awareness.

5:38

Uh Gene Gil Christ uh is with us today.

5:42

Uh he I guess your company are is uh uh stay clean.

5:45

Yes, sir.

5:46

Umless anybody's got any questions right now, yeah.

5:51

Let him give us some information that we dire we really need.

5:56

So thank you.

5:58

Mr.

5:58

Benson, thank you.

5:59

Members of the committee, thank you, uh those present and and those online.

6:03

Uh my name is Jean Gilchrist.

6:05

I live in Lake Forest.

6:07

My wife and I adopted Louisville as our hometown in 2001.

6:12

Um, and so uh I don't think Mr.

6:14

Piagenti is with us today, but uh Cheryl's the other Democrat in Lake Forest.

6:19

Uh and and we just love the uh Louisville as our hometown.

6:24

Uh I was uh called here in 2001 to help solve a problem in the University of Louisville.

6:29

I then uh was uh involved with Uleville Healthcare for for many years.

6:34

And recently uh Mayor Fisher asked me if I would get involved after the said passing of Michael White, who some of you knew, and Mike started several addiction recovery activities west of 9th Street, and all four of those are still open, so I was uh happy to do that.

6:51

Uh thank you, Mr.

6:52

Benson, for mentioning uh stay clean.

6:54

Uh I'm not here to ask you for anything for stay clean, uh, but I did want you to know what I'm currently doing.

7:00

Uh stay clean was founded by a uh colleague in uh uh West Louisville.

7:07

He wanted to bring addiction treatment online.

7:11

And uh while I was uh somewhat skeptical, um thank you.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Public Health██████████████████████████████████████38%
Substance Abuse Awareness█████████████████████████████████33%
Public Safety████████8%
Procedural█████5%
Nonprofit Support█████5%
Mental Health Awareness████4%
Cannabis Regulation████4%
Transportation Safety███3%
Summary of Proceedings

Equity, Community Affairs, Housing, Health, and Education Committee Meeting on Substance Use, Abuse and Addiction Awareness - March 8, 2023

The Equity, Community Affairs, Housing, Health, and Education Committee of the Louisville Metro Council met on Wednesday, March 8, 2023, at 1:30 PM. Vice Chair Stuart Benson called the meeting to order with a quorum of six members present. The sole agenda item was a special discussion on substance use, abuse, and addiction awareness, featuring a presentation by Gene Gilchrist, founder of Stay Clean, a HIPAA-protected telehealth platform for addiction treatment. The meeting adjourned at 2:17 PM.

Discussion Items

  • Presentation by Gene Gilchrist: Gilchrist provided an extensive overview of substance use disorder (SUD) in America, emphasizing that the common image of an addict (homeless, destitute, person of color) represents only about 1% of the problem. He cited SAMHSA data estimating 40.3 million Americans have a substance use disorder, with less than 1 in 5 receiving treatment and fewer than 10% achieving one-year recovery. He noted that nicotine kills 468,000 Americans annually, alcohol kills 98,000, and overdose deaths (primarily from opioids) recently surpassed alcohol deaths, totaling about 673,000 deaths per year—nearly equaling heart disease (696,000). He argued that addiction is a chronic disease, not a moral failing, and called for eliminating stigma, shifting from a war-on-drugs supply-side approach to a demand-side focus, and promoting harm reduction with recovery pathways. He highlighted that 43% of employees on any given day would be at risk of failing a drug test that includes alcohol, and that industries from education (lowest abuse rate) to mining have significant SUD rates.

  • Committee Q&A:

    • Vice Chair Benson expressed concern about workplace safety and asked how to help individuals recognize their problem before hitting bottom. Gilchrist replied that most people "feel the heat" before seeing the light, and employers can help by having supportive conversations rather than punitive measures.
    • Committee Member Ruhe praised the presentation and asked about reducing demand before abuse starts. Gilchrist suggested broad-based awareness campaigns and early intervention points (school performance, family, friends, pastors).
    • Committee Member Seum asked about recovery time, noting that 28-day programs are insufficient. Gilchrist agreed, citing The Healing Place's six-month program as a more effective model, and emphasized continuity of care. Seum also raised concerns about prescription opioids like OxyContin and the mixed messaging on labels, and questioned the demonization of cannabis, noting its medical benefits for PTSD and cancer. Gilchrist clarified he did not intend to demonize cannabis, supported medical cannabis, and acknowledged that physician training on addiction is inadequate.
    • Committee Member Owen asked about for-profit vs. nonprofit treatment organizations. Gilchrist noted that historically treatment was nonprofit, but for-profit models like Stay Clean can be sustainable with proper regulation, and both sectors have examples of abuse.
    • Vice Chair Benson further discussed genetic and environmental factors in addiction, adverse childhood events, and the need for tailored approaches. Gilchrist confirmed genetic links and the role of adverse childhood experiences.
    • Committee Member Seum asked about the difference between caffeine, nicotine, and opioid addictions. Gilchrist explained that caffeine and nicotine are mood-altering but not mind-altering, with less severe withdrawal, while opioids are highly addictive and mind-altering, leading to illegal behaviors to obtain the drug.

Key Outcomes

  • No formal votes or resolutions were taken. The meeting served as an informational session to raise awareness and generate discussion among committee members.
  • Committee members expressed appreciation for the presentation and indicated they would share the information with constituents.
  • The meeting was adjourned without objection.

Meeting Transcript

That gun is then auctioned off by the Kentucky state police. These guns that are used to commit crimes end up back on our streets. And too often, guns that are used to commit crimes are used to commit another crime. That needs to stop. This gun was used by a 17-year-old child in Louisville who attempted to kill another 17-year-old child. Right now, state law forbids us from outright destroying these guns. That's frustrating, disappointing, and dangerous. When we seize drugs in our city, we don't put those drugs back on the street and give them to a different drug dealer. We destroy them. Why don't we do the same thing with guns? I want our city to do our part and permanently destroy illegal guns that have been used to commit crimes once in our city. Once is too many. That is somebody that wants to I don't know if I don't know. I like solving problems. I'm a poor man living in a rich man's work hungry bunch. We were the good Lord knocked at our door. I usually spend my money on equipment. No, Chin Chung. I like to build things. Oh, we got another minute. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Metro TV, we're gonna start in one minute. Okay, are we ready? Good afternoon. Uh this is equities, community affairs, healthy, housing, health, and education. My name is Stuart Benson. I'm I'm vice chair of this committee. Dr. Barbara Shanklin, she's got an excused absence, as does uh Shakori Arthur with us today. We got uh Tammy Hawkins, um Andrew Owens, uh Dan Siles, Jr. Um, and Betsy Rue. Um, I think. And oh, and Marilyn Parker. Thank you, Marilyn. So today our topic is uh substantial substance youth abuse uh addiction awareness. Uh Gene Gil Christ uh is with us today. Uh he I guess your company are is uh uh stay clean. Yes, sir. Umless anybody's got any questions right now, yeah. Let him give us some information that we dire we really need. So thank you. Mr. Benson, thank you. Members of the committee, thank you, uh those present and and those online. Uh my name is Jean Gilchrist. I live in Lake Forest. My wife and I adopted Louisville as our hometown in 2001. Um, and so uh I don't think Mr. Piagenti is with us today, but uh Cheryl's the other Democrat in Lake Forest.

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