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Montgomery County Joint PS/GO Committee Work Session - October 1, 2026

County Council & Committees — Thursday, October 1, 2026
BodyMontgomery County, Maryland
SessionCounty Council & Committees
DateThursday, October 1, 2026
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Speaker 1

0:01

Well, good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Joint Public Safety and Government Operations and Physical Policy Committee work session of Thursday, uh, October 1st, 2026.

0:11

Sorry to believe it's already October.

0:14

Today we have three topics on the agenda.

0:16

The first is Bill 1826, police, powers and duties of director, DHS law enforcement agency hiring.

0:25

The second is expedited Bill 2926, personnel and human resources eligibility for county employment, also the Community Trust and County Employees Act.

0:37

And the third is a briefing on unauthorized disclosure of person uh personnel, uh personally identifiable uh information for the fire and rescue service.

0:48

As we begin, I will not like to thank Mr.

0:52

who I never say his name properly, Mr.

0:55

Jim, Mr.

0:57

Orgazlac.

0:58

We're not going to do that one again.

1:00

Ms.

1:00

Wellens, yeah, Jim.

1:02

Uh Ms.

1:02

Farog, Dr.

1:03

Jaregas, and Mr.

1:05

Annbinder for preparing the staff reports for the topics today, and for once again an always assembling, most informative package for us.

1:13

And as I uh begin, I'm going to ask Councilmember Stewart, who is the co-chair of the joint committee.

1:18

Uh, if she has any opening remarks, then I'm going to ask Councilmember Glaes, who's the lead sponsor of the first topic for any opening comments.

1:26

Then we'll ask any of the other joint committee members if they have any opening comments.

1:31

Then we'll go to the first panel to please introduce themselves and ask if they have any opening comments.

1:36

And then we're going to ask Jim by some other name, I guess, to please walk us through the first discussion.

1:42

Councilmember Stewart.

Speaker 2

1:44

Thank you to uh Chair Katz.

1:46

I'm glad to be here today.

1:47

Um, and I just want to say first, before we get into the weeds and the details of these bills, um, the first two that we're discussing today.

1:56

Um, thank you uh to my colleagues, um, to the staff who have been working really hard.

2:03

Um, I think first and foremost, all of us here share the goal of centering um our communities, particularly those who are most impacted by what's going on right now with the federal government.

2:16

And um, as we go through the conversation today, I know all of us share that goal of making sure that our government is one that our residents trust can come to and engage with to get the services they need at this time.

2:30

Um there's uh a lot of details in how do we get there and fulfill that goal.

2:36

Um that we'll get into, but I just wanted to ground us in that because I know we all share that um as our goal, and we will continue to look at legislation, programs, and other things that we can do in our county to continue with that work.

2:51

So thank you.

Speaker 1

2:52

Thank you.

2:53

Councilmember Glass, please.

Speaker 3

2:56

Thank you very much, Chair Katz and Chair Stewart and members of the joint committee.

3:02

Uh for nearly two years, we have watched in horror as the federal government has militarized uh immigration services and has injected uh fear and harm uh into our community.

3:16

And it is incredibly important to know that the federal disregard for civil rights and the rule of law uh is fundamentally at odds with our values here in Montgomery County, one of, if not the most diverse places in the entire country.

3:33

And it is from the communication that members of our community have shared with me, expressing those concerns, expressing those fears that I introduced the Continued Excellence and Public Service Act.

3:47

And what this legislation does is it affirms that officers who serve and protect Montgomery County residents embody the values of Montgomery County.

3:59

It reaffirms that.

4:24

Very specific, very tailored, very workable.

4:29

And we know that Montgomery County Police Department already has among the most uh rigorous standards in the nation.

4:38

Fact.

4:39

This adds one more layer of safety and security and detailed backgrounding so that our residents can continue being comfortable, walking around, driving around, and calling public safety officials when they need it.

Unassigned speaker

5:00

I will share that earlier this spring I was an only for an event, a public event, and a gentleman stopped me as I was walking by myself and introduced himself and said thank you for introducing this legislation, because he is an FBI officer who wants to get out of the FBI.

Speaker 3

5:21

And he said that there are a number of people in federal law enforcement who want to get out.

5:29

And they are looking for jobs and they're looking for the right opportunity.

5:34

And this allows him and others, particularly those in homeland security to escape a hostile work environment that they disagree with, but one that currently pays the bills, provides health insurance and pays for their kids' college tuition.

5:51

This is a workable bill.

5:53

It is sensible and it directly targets and helps the residents that are asking for it.

5:59

So I appreciate the joint committee's indulgence in this conversation.

6:03

I want to thank Mr.

6:04

Gorzalak and MCPD for their collaboration and partnership on this and look forward to the committee discussion.

6:12

Thank you.

Speaker 1

6:13

Thank you.

6:13

And I think it should be noted that some council members know how to say your name.

6:16

Yes, go ahead, please.

Speaker 4

6:21

Thank you.

6:22

And with the with the assumption that we'll get into talking about both both bills over the course of this discussion, if it's all right with the chair, I'll go ahead and speak to my bill as well.

6:34

So similarly, this bill came from discussions with the community as well as with some of the community groups, nonprofit community partners who serve our community and who have been seeing really unfortunate declines in folks who are coming to food distributions, coming to seek resources that Montgomery County is proud to provide.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Public Safety█████████████████████████25%
Cybersecurity████████████████████20%
Immigration Policy█████████████████17%
Law Enforcement Hiring███████████████15%
Personnel Matters███████████11%
Procedural███3%
Data Center Regulation███3%
Public Engagement██2%
Legal Affairs██2%
Summary of Proceedings

Montgomery County Joint Public Safety and Government Operations Committee Work Session - October 1, 2026

The joint committee (Public Safety and Government Operations & Fiscal Policy) met on October 1, 2026, from approximately 9:30 a.m. to early afternoon in the Council Hearing Room (3CHR). The session, chaired by Sidney Katz and co-chaired by Kate Stewart, addressed three agenda items: Bill 18-26 (Police – Powers and Duties of Director – DHS Law Enforcement Agency Hiring), Expedited Bill 29-26 (Personnel and Human Resources – Eligibility for County Employment, aka the "Community Trust in County Employees Act"), and a briefing on the unauthorized disclosure of personally identifiable information (PII) by the Fire and Rescue Service. The discussion centered on balancing community trust, hiring standards, legal concerns, and the county’s response to federal immigration enforcement.

Discussion Items

  • Bill 18-26 (Continued Excellence and Public Service Act) – Lead Sponsor: Evan Glass

    • The bill would require the Montgomery County Police Department (MCPD) to verify specific information before extending a final offer of employment to applicants who were federal law enforcement officers for the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) or its subcomponents (including ICE, CBP, FEMA, HSI) on or after January 21, 2025, and who engaged in deportation, expulsion, or removal operations in the interior of the United States. Exceptions are made for individuals working at ports of entry or along the border.
    • The verification would include assignment and deployment locations, participation in or witnessing of use of force during operations, and any complaints filed.
    • MCPD Acting Chief Darren Frank noted that the department is already down over 200 officers and that out of 118 lateral applicants with law enforcement backgrounds, only 2 were hired. He emphasized that the current hiring process includes a 60-page background questionnaire, polygraph, social media scrubs, psychological evaluations, a 30-week academy, and 15 weeks of field training.
    • Chief Frank expressed concern that the bill would require MCPD to rely on federal agencies (e.g., via FOIA) to verify information, but those agencies are under no obligation to respond, potentially penalizing good candidates whose prior employers do not cooperate.
    • Councilmember Katz questioned the inclusion of FEMA (a DHS component) and the risk of disqualifying whistleblowers or individuals who tried to do good within ICE/CBP.
    • Councilmember Luedtke highlighted the tension between the “targeted” approach of Bill 18-26 (focusing on conduct) and the broader categorical ban in Bill 29-26.
  • Expedited Bill 29-26 (Community Trust in County Employees Act) – Lead Sponsor: Kristin Mink

    • The bill would prohibit all county public-facing departments (listed as 17 agencies, including police, libraries, recreation, health and human services, etc.) from hiring any “restricted applicant,” defined as anyone employed by ICE or CBP on or after October 1, 2025, or anyone employed or contracted by the U.S. government to support enforcement of federal immigration laws.
    • Councilmember Mink argued that a narrow assessment of an individual’s role is “too squishy” and undermines community trust; thus a clear prohibition is necessary to reassure residents.
    • The County Executive’s Office (represented by Luisa Cardona) requested amendments: (1) give HR time to amend personnel regulations; (2) shift the burden from HR to hiring departments to certify if a position is sensitive/public-facing; (3) remove the list of departments and instead use a mechanism where each department self-identifies sensitive positions.
    • A revised fiscal impact statement (addendum) indicated that the bill could be implemented with no new staff if applicants simply self-attest (yes/no) to having worked for ICE/CBP, and the county would not verify those answers.
    • Councilmember Glass called the approach “overly broad” and “guilt by association,” noting that it would affect not just law enforcement but over 250,000 federal contractors in Maryland and many non-sworn staff.
    • Councilmember Luedtke raised constitutional concerns under the Supremacy Clause and Article 24 of the Maryland Declaration of Rights, and questioned how the bill aligns with the county’s “ban the box” policies (not asking about prior convictions).
    • Councilmember Evans supported the purpose but expressed unease about disqualifying people based on association rather than conduct, and asked for clearer measurement of community trust improvement.
    • The committee agreed to continue the discussion on October 19, 2026, with a focus on Bill 29-26, while incorporating insights from Bill 18-26.
  • Briefing – Unauthorized Disclosure of PII by Fire and Rescue Service

    • On June 4, 2026, a Fire and Rescue Service employee inadvertently distributed an Excel spreadsheet containing names, addresses, bank account numbers, and routing numbers for approximately 7,500 county retirees, career firefighters, and volunteers.
    • The spreadsheet was created by Finance for a transition to electronic direct deposit for volunteer reimbursements; it contained four worksheets, but only one was intended to be sent.
    • The email was sent to 6 county employees and 62 volunteer fire chiefs/presidents. Within 1.5 hours, MCFRS realized the error and contacted the county’s IT security team (Tebs). Within 2 hours, over 3,300 messages were deleted from the county email system. For the 11 recipients outside the county email system, each was contacted and asked to delete the email.
    • The county notified affected individuals by email and mail within 4 days, and provided call scripts to 311 and the retirement contact center. The Chief Administrative Officer also attended a retiree association meeting.
    • The county’s Chief Information Security Officer (Keith Young) confirmed that this was human error, not a cyberattack. Recommendations include enhanced training, checklists for non-standard reports, data classification projects (already identified 2.5 million sensitive files), and encryption awareness.
    • Councilmember Glass noted that encryption alone would not have prevented the disclosure because recipients could still forward the email. He urged consideration of requiring all volunteer fire leaders to use county email accounts. Acting Deputy Chief Howard Richards said the department is not opposed but cited costs.
    • Councilmember Stewart recommended the county consider an internal audit of the new procedures and more direct communication (beyond 311) for affected retirees.

Key Outcomes

  • Bills 18-26 and 29-26: The committee decided to continue the joint discussion on October 19, 2026, with a focus on refining Bill 29-26. Staff were asked to provide further legal analysis on constitutional issues and to circulate proposed amendments from the County Executive’s Office. No votes were taken.
  • Data Breach Briefing: The committee accepted the briefing and noted the corrective actions already underway. The chair will forward a letter received from a concerned volunteer to the executive team. No formal action was taken, but the committee expects follow-up on: (1) consideration of providing county email accounts to all volunteer fire leaders, (2) potential internal audit of new procedures, and (3) enhanced proactive outreach to affected individuals.

Meeting Transcript

Well, good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Joint Public Safety and Government Operations and Physical Policy Committee work session of Thursday, uh, October 1st, 2026. Sorry to believe it's already October. Today we have three topics on the agenda. The first is Bill 1826, police, powers and duties of director, DHS law enforcement agency hiring. The second is expedited Bill 2926, personnel and human resources eligibility for county employment, also the Community Trust and County Employees Act. And the third is a briefing on unauthorized disclosure of person uh personnel, uh personally identifiable uh information for the fire and rescue service. As we begin, I will not like to thank Mr. who I never say his name properly, Mr. Jim, Mr. Orgazlac. We're not going to do that one again. Ms. Wellens, yeah, Jim. Uh Ms. Farog, Dr. Jaregas, and Mr. Annbinder for preparing the staff reports for the topics today, and for once again an always assembling, most informative package for us. And as I uh begin, I'm going to ask Councilmember Stewart, who is the co-chair of the joint committee. Uh, if she has any opening remarks, then I'm going to ask Councilmember Glaes, who's the lead sponsor of the first topic for any opening comments. Then we'll ask any of the other joint committee members if they have any opening comments. Then we'll go to the first panel to please introduce themselves and ask if they have any opening comments. And then we're going to ask Jim by some other name, I guess, to please walk us through the first discussion. Councilmember Stewart. Thank you to uh Chair Katz. I'm glad to be here today. Um, and I just want to say first, before we get into the weeds and the details of these bills, um, the first two that we're discussing today. Um, thank you uh to my colleagues, um, to the staff who have been working really hard. Um, I think first and foremost, all of us here share the goal of centering um our communities, particularly those who are most impacted by what's going on right now with the federal government. And um, as we go through the conversation today, I know all of us share that goal of making sure that our government is one that our residents trust can come to and engage with to get the services they need at this time. Um there's uh a lot of details in how do we get there and fulfill that goal. Um that we'll get into, but I just wanted to ground us in that because I know we all share that um as our goal, and we will continue to look at legislation, programs, and other things that we can do in our county to continue with that work. So thank you. Thank you. Councilmember Glass, please. Thank you very much, Chair Katz and Chair Stewart and members of the joint committee. Uh for nearly two years, we have watched in horror as the federal government has militarized uh immigration services and has injected uh fear and harm uh into our community. And it is incredibly important to know that the federal disregard for civil rights and the rule of law uh is fundamentally at odds with our values here in Montgomery County, one of, if not the most diverse places in the entire country. And it is from the communication that members of our community have shared with me, expressing those concerns, expressing those fears that I introduced the Continued Excellence and Public Service Act. And what this legislation does is it affirms that officers who serve and protect Montgomery County residents embody the values of Montgomery County. It reaffirms that. Very specific, very tailored, very workable. And we know that Montgomery County Police Department already has among the most uh rigorous standards in the nation. Fact. This adds one more layer of safety and security and detailed backgrounding so that our residents can continue being comfortable, walking around, driving around, and calling public safety officials when they need it. I will share that earlier this spring I was an only for an event, a public event, and a gentleman stopped me as I was walking by myself and introduced himself and said thank you for introducing this legislation, because he is an FBI officer who wants to get out of the FBI. And he said that there are a number of people in federal law enforcement who want to get out. And they are looking for jobs and they're looking for the right opportunity. And this allows him and others, particularly those in homeland security to escape a hostile work environment that they disagree with, but one that currently pays the bills, provides health insurance and pays for their kids' college tuition. This is a workable bill. It is sensible and it directly targets and helps the residents that are asking for it.

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