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Montgomery County Board of Commissioners Meeting - November 13, 2025

Board of CommissionersThursday, November 13, 2025
BodyMontgomery County, Pennsylvania
SessionBoard of Commissioners
DateThursday, November 13, 2025
StatusFILED
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1:45

I was probably keeping my eye on it.

8:43

This is one of the things that we'll do.

9:41

Oh, yes.

11:42

Good morning, everyone.

11:44

Good morning.

11:47

Seeing all three commissioners present, I will call to order the November thirteenth, twenty twenty-five meeting of the Montgomery County Board of Commissioners.

11:56

I will ask Nellie Jimenez to lead us in Pledge of Allegiance.

12:02

Thank you.

12:07

Oh yeah.

12:21

One nation under this whole okay, so we've got a long meeting.

12:33

Sorry, I stunned you.

12:34

Um got a long meeting today.

12:37

Uh try to get through it as quickly as we can, uh, but a lot of important topics to cover.

12:45

Uh I'll just start by saying uh I wanted to recap last week's municipal election.

12:53

Uh we had an extraordinary turnout uh for an odd year, perhaps the highest uh on record as far as we can go back, which is that fifty percent registered voters in Montgomery County cast a ballot.

13:07

Uh that is the loop is out for the voters in Montgomery County, uh, and also uh of course our voter services staff who have made it uh easier than ever to access the ballot, whether you voting by mail, uh in person at one of our sites or at the polls.

13:28

And uh we already got a glimpse that this was gonna be a high turnout election.

13:34

When we saw the mail in numbers coming in, so more than 90,000 people voted by mail, that was another record total uh for uh an odd-year election.

13:44

I can put that in perspective.

13:47

There was eighty-five thousand applications for mailing ballots, which we get a portion of those, I think eighty percent back usually.

13:55

And so we've far exceeded all of our records.

13:58

I think four years ago there was about two hundred twenty-five thousand voters this year is uh about three hundred and ten thousand voters.

14:05

So uh big jump in turnout, which really shows that uh people appreciate that local power matters, whether they're voting for school board or townships, or any attention to the judicial races in the commonwealth and the state supreme court, uh, especially at the time where we are experiencing at during the election, the federal government shutdown and the state uh governmental budget, I'll talk about it in a second.

14:34

Uh it showed that voters appreciate their vote at the local level on what it means in so thanks again to the voter services team, our four hundred and twenty-eight judges of elections, two thousand four hundred and twelve poll workers, two hundred and twenty-six student poll workers, uh, and of course, Frank Dean for leading the operation.

14:56

Uh so another topic, uh small business Saturday.

15:02

Uh speaking of thinking local, uh you're probably all thinking about your holiday gift giving starting now.

15:09

It's almost Thanksgiving.

15:11

And it seems like the Black Friday sale start earlier than earlier.

15:14

You're getting all the emails already.

15:17

Uh I just want to encourage folks to think about uh Small Business Saturday, November 30th, and uh local businesses here in Montgomery County.

15:26

We'll share this through our comms team and give you some ideas on our socials, but uh it's always great to get a gift locally to support our local economy and small businesses.

15:39

So uh on the state budget, you know, we'll have more comments on this, but you know, I'll just say uh it's good to know that uh we can continue to serve our uh communities uh in the way we have been, and I'm very thankful that our team has been able to run the county's finances in such a way that our services were not impacted in Montgomery County, and that's something we can be proud of.

16:08

Uh unfortunately more counties when they had to keep services.

16:11

Uh and thankfully the state budget, you know, has been passed.

16:16

It's you know, not a dramatic change from from last year.

16:20

Uh there is uh earned income tax credit, which will be uh a great help to about a billion families across the commonwealth, uh, but we still got to fight for funding mass transit at CEPA and also addressing housing affordability, the whole home repairs bill which was a hundred years ago in a bipartisan fashion was not included in this bill, and that's something that uh I hope to advocate for for next year uh as well as uh public transit funding.

16:52

Uh and uh finally, for my comments you know, this is our last meeting before Thanksgiving.

16:59

So we wish everyone happy Thanksgiving.

17:02

There's much to be thankful for in Montgomery County, and we have a lot of residents who are doing incredible work to support uh uh others throughout the county in need.

17:15

I've you know, last Thanksgiving I was at Upper Marion Community Cupboard.

17:19

They give out thousands of turkeys.

17:21

Uh we of course uh as a county invested over half a million dollars directly in food for our food pantries.

17:30

There's about 70 pantries across the county at a time when staff benefits have been in question and long term, you know, through adjustments and they'll be cut, but uh you know, we'll have to you know we'll have to do everything we can locally at a time when uh it's unclear the level of support we're getting the veterans.

17:53

So I'm thankful for all of our partners with the Monco Anti-Hunger Network, uh community covered, and many other food pantries that are supporting families, especially during Thanksgiving.

18:03

So with that, I'll turn over uh comments to Commissioner Wendy.

18:08

Uh great thanks, Commissioner Makesha.

18:09

How's everyone doing this morning?

18:11

Mr.

18:12

Morgan, did I see you at the American Delivery last week?

18:14

I did.

18:15

I saw you in the crowd.

18:16

So thank you for for being there.

18:18

Last week I had the honor of welcoming Pennsylvania's first lady Lori Shapiro to Montgomery County Community College for a special evening, uh, screening a documentary that's close to my heart.

18:28

American delivery, it's about the experience of women and health care workers around the world and here in the United States.

18:35

I was grateful to share the movie with a packed audience.

18:39

I think we had over 300 people there, including Mr.

18:41

Morgan, so thank you.

18:43

And to host an inspiring panel discussion with experts and advocates, including the filmmakers, Carolyn Jones, and Lisa Frank, State Representative Morgan C Fist and representatives from the Maternity Care Coalition, Penn Medicine, Life Cycle Wellness and Birth Centers, and Cherry Gregg from WHYY.

19:01

American women of color still experience high rates of maternal mortality, and so that's why events like this are so important so we can address why this happens and explore how to improve outcomes for moms and babies.

19:14

Uh, this evening of storytelling and discussion brought home the realities of our strained health care system and offered uh powerful inspiration on the possibilities of how we build uh networks and communities uh for new parents who are bringing beautiful babies into the world.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Fiscal Sustainability██████████████████18%
Immigration Policy███████████11%
Procedural██████████10%
Public Safety█████████9%
Miscellaneous██████6%
Engineering And Infrastructure██████6%
Voter Registration█████5%
Public Health Awareness█████5%
Veterans Affairs█████5%
Summary of Proceedings

Montgomery County Board of Commissioners Meeting - November 13, 2025

The Montgomery County Board of Commissioners met on November 13, 2025, to discuss and approve the proposed 2026 budget, hear public comments on immigration enforcement, and address routine county business. Commissioners McKija, Winder, and DeBello presided. The meeting highlighted record election turnout, the county's response to rising costs, and strategic investments in housing, behavioral health, and public safety.

Consent Calendar

  • Approval of the October 23, 2025 meeting minutes.
  • Resolutions 1–4: $750,000 match for Norristown Public Library ADA/HVAC, and applications for LSA grants (coroner's mausoleum, Valley Forge Connector Trail segment, and library box trucks) – all approved unanimously.
  • Lease agreement with 3147 Easton Road LLC for swing space during Willow Grove Annex renovation (three years, ~$304,000) – approved.
  • Reappointment of a SEPTA board member and appointments to the Youth Center Board of Managers – approved.
  • Personnel list for November 13, 2025 – approved.
  • Advertisement of bids/RFPs and contract awards for Montgomery County and the Southeastern PA Task Force – approved.
  • Salary board list for November 13, 2025 – approved.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • David Morgan (Ambler) – Questioned the $400,000 exploration budget for a hydroelectric dam project and asked for clarity on cumulative costs and tax increases. Also raised concerns about the Justice Center budget overruns and suggested merging positions to save costs.
  • Stephen Heath (Cheltenham Twp.) – Thanked commissioners for policies limiting ICE cooperation (refusing 287(g)) and urged continued support for immigrant communities, noting that trust with law enforcement is being undermined by ICE tactics.
  • Denise Schmidt (Limerick Twp.) – Expressed fear over ICE presence near schools and public areas, and urged adoption of a welcoming policy.
  • Ed Moy (West Norriton) – Shared a different perspective as a veteran and former state police officer, arguing that illegal entry is a crime and that ICE cooperation is necessary for public safety; referenced a Bucks County court ruling.
  • Juanita Arube (East Norriton) – Described personal observations of ICE enforcement (6 a.m. detentions, unmarked cars) and pleaded for a welcoming resolution to reduce fear in immigrant communities.
  • Michelle Ngarto (Lower Salford Twp.) – Cited suspicious mail-in ballot patterns in local races, alleging Democrat mail ballots disproportionately affected Republican leads; recommended audits.
  • Other speakers – Commented on the American Delivery documentary, adoption, and non-emergency service requests (311-style system).

Discussion Items

  • 2026 Proposed Budget Presentation (CFO Dean Dortone & Deputy COO Stephanie Tipton) – The $619 million general fund budget closes a $25.5 million gap through a millage rate increase to 5.462 (average $36/year additional) and a $13.5 million draw on unassigned fund balance. Key cost drivers: health care (9% increase), debt service, and unfunded mandates (911, behavioral health). Savings included $1.4 million from renegotiated prescription drug contracts, $800,000 from workers' comp, and elimination of 11 positions. The capital plan totals $256 million for 2026, including $54 million for Justice Center Phase 2/3 and $39 million for library construction. The community college millage would rise to 0.49 mills ($17/year increase) to stabilize tuition.
  • Commissioner Discussion – Commissioners praised staff for reducing a projected $55.9 million deficit to $25.5 million through cost containment. They highlighted investments: $3.6 million for transitional housing, $6 million state grant for behavioral health crisis center, $2 million for Monco Main Streets, and 3% wage increase for employees. Concerns were raised about the hydro dam exploration and Justice Center overruns, but the budget was seen as fiscally responsible.
  • Recorder of Deeds Report – Presented Veterans Day events, the discount ID program (650+ businesses), House Bill 269 to protect veterans' documents, holiday drive for Veterans Multi-Service Center, and a new Montgomery County Veterans Trail map (available in print and online).

Key Outcomes

  • 2026 Budget Advertised – The proposed budget will be posted online and available for public inspection. Two public hearings set for December 4, 2025 (10 a.m. and 5:30 p.m.), with final adoption vote on December 18, 2025.
  • Ongoing ICE Policy – Commissioners reaffirmed refusal to sign 287(g) agreements, noting the sheriff's commitment and the importance of local control. No formal welcoming resolution was voted on, but public comments urged action.
  • Election Results Audit – Commissioners noted record 50% turnout and 90,000+ mail-in ballots, and affirmed post-election audits will verify results.
  • Next Meeting – December 4, 2025 at 10 a.m. and 5:30 p.m. for budget hearings; December 18, 2025 at 10 a.m. for final budget vote.

Meeting Transcript

I was probably keeping my eye on it. This is one of the things that we'll do. Oh, yes. Good morning, everyone. Good morning. Seeing all three commissioners present, I will call to order the November thirteenth, twenty twenty-five meeting of the Montgomery County Board of Commissioners. I will ask Nellie Jimenez to lead us in Pledge of Allegiance. Thank you. Oh yeah. One nation under this whole okay, so we've got a long meeting. Sorry, I stunned you. Um got a long meeting today. Uh try to get through it as quickly as we can, uh, but a lot of important topics to cover. Uh I'll just start by saying uh I wanted to recap last week's municipal election. Uh we had an extraordinary turnout uh for an odd year, perhaps the highest uh on record as far as we can go back, which is that fifty percent registered voters in Montgomery County cast a ballot. Uh that is the loop is out for the voters in Montgomery County, uh, and also uh of course our voter services staff who have made it uh easier than ever to access the ballot, whether you voting by mail, uh in person at one of our sites or at the polls. And uh we already got a glimpse that this was gonna be a high turnout election. When we saw the mail in numbers coming in, so more than 90,000 people voted by mail, that was another record total uh for uh an odd-year election. I can put that in perspective. There was eighty-five thousand applications for mailing ballots, which we get a portion of those, I think eighty percent back usually. And so we've far exceeded all of our records. I think four years ago there was about two hundred twenty-five thousand voters this year is uh about three hundred and ten thousand voters. So uh big jump in turnout, which really shows that uh people appreciate that local power matters, whether they're voting for school board or townships, or any attention to the judicial races in the commonwealth and the state supreme court, uh, especially at the time where we are experiencing at during the election, the federal government shutdown and the state uh governmental budget, I'll talk about it in a second. Uh it showed that voters appreciate their vote at the local level on what it means in so thanks again to the voter services team, our four hundred and twenty-eight judges of elections, two thousand four hundred and twelve poll workers, two hundred and twenty-six student poll workers, uh, and of course, Frank Dean for leading the operation. Uh so another topic, uh small business Saturday. Uh speaking of thinking local, uh you're probably all thinking about your holiday gift giving starting now. It's almost Thanksgiving. And it seems like the Black Friday sale start earlier than earlier. You're getting all the emails already. Uh I just want to encourage folks to think about uh Small Business Saturday, November 30th, and uh local businesses here in Montgomery County. We'll share this through our comms team and give you some ideas on our socials, but uh it's always great to get a gift locally to support our local economy and small businesses. So uh on the state budget, you know, we'll have more comments on this, but you know, I'll just say uh it's good to know that uh we can continue to serve our uh communities uh in the way we have been, and I'm very thankful that our team has been able to run the county's finances in such a way that our services were not impacted in Montgomery County, and that's something we can be proud of. Uh unfortunately more counties when they had to keep services. Uh and thankfully the state budget, you know, has been passed. It's you know, not a dramatic change from from last year. Uh there is uh earned income tax credit, which will be uh a great help to about a billion families across the commonwealth, uh, but we still got to fight for funding mass transit at CEPA and also addressing housing affordability, the whole home repairs bill which was a hundred years ago in a bipartisan fashion was not included in this bill, and that's something that uh I hope to advocate for for next year uh as well as uh public transit funding. Uh and uh finally, for my comments you know, this is our last meeting before Thanksgiving. So we wish everyone happy Thanksgiving. There's much to be thankful for in Montgomery County, and we have a lot of residents who are doing incredible work to support uh uh others throughout the county in need. I've you know, last Thanksgiving I was at Upper Marion Community Cupboard. They give out thousands of turkeys. Uh we of course uh as a county invested over half a million dollars directly in food for our food pantries. There's about 70 pantries across the county at a time when staff benefits have been in question and long term, you know, through adjustments and they'll be cut, but uh you know, we'll have to you know we'll have to do everything we can locally at a time when uh it's unclear the level of support we're getting the veterans. So I'm thankful for all of our partners with the Monco Anti-Hunger Network, uh community covered, and many other food pantries that are supporting families, especially during Thanksgiving. So with that, I'll turn over uh comments to Commissioner Wendy. Uh great thanks, Commissioner Makesha. How's everyone doing this morning? Mr. Morgan, did I see you at the American Delivery last week? I did.

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