Um we will try to pause and ask for questions, but feel free to interrupt us as well.

But we're excited to be here this evening.

As Andy mentioned, we're gonna walk through the methodology and findings for the year 2050 traffic projections.

We'll highlight uh anticipated operational conditions for intersections and roadway segments throughout the city, and then we'll present the preliminary list of improvements for your review and discussion, and then kind of talk through next steps.

Sorry, this is looking a little off.

There we go.

Um, really quickly, a brief overview for a reminder for those that weren't here in May, and and just a refresh for the rest of us.

Um, the purpose of the road improvement plan is to evaluate intersection and roadway segments under the city's jurisdiction.

We presented in May a review of existing traffic conditions.

Um again today we're gonna talk through future conditions, your 2050, and then the ultimate output or purpose of the RIP that will refer to it as the RIP throughout the presentation, so bear with me.

But the RIP will identify capacity driven improvements.

And we'll talk through other components that are considered when we define those improvements, but this is a capacity driven plan.

The improvements that are defined in the road improvement plan will ultimately inform the city's capital improvement plan that is reviewed annually to define uh implementation priorities for the improvements included in the RIP.

And then I want to highlight and we'll come back to this at the end of the presentation.

But as you all know, as we discussed in May, and we'll revisit here briefly.

Um this has been an iterative planning process.

We solicited feedback from the community uh to inform the road improvement plan.

And as these projects move forward through the city's capital improvement plan, there will be future opportunities for public improvement as these projects move forward for design and the construction.

So I just want to make sure that that stays top of mind.

So, really quick, a quick revisit of existing conditions.

This is a very data-driven process.

The analysis included 162 intersections, um, most of which are signalized.

We did also take a look at unsignalized intersections, and then over 175 roadway segments were evaluated.

The data used for the analysis, the baseline data for existing conditions, uh, is largely based on data from the city and IDOT.

In certain situations where that data was not readily available, we did use replica.

I want to emphasize no data from your 2020 2021 was none of that was referenced for this analysis.

We re-realized COVID heavily influenced traffic patterns, and therefore that data was not referenced.

And then we did obtain signal timing data from the three agencies that have signals under the study network.

As I mentioned, public input is a large component of this planning process.

We previously held a public open house to solicit input on the existing conditions to identify opportunities for potential improvements that we may not realize through just review of an analysis file.

Um, and then we did, I think we all we shared at the last meeting, we did have an online tool to solicit public input input that generated almost 500 comments.

I won't go through this again, but happy to answer any questions tonight regarding the public input.

So since we met last time, I want to note um I'll figure this out eventually, I apologize.

Um I want to note uh since we last discussed this project, IDOT has released new existing data.

Um previously we were referencing year 2022 and your 2023 existing data.

IDOT released 2024 data since we last chatted.

So we have subsequently updated the existing conditions analysis to reflect available year 2024 data, um, which again kind of gets us further removed from any COVID influence.

So the data set is largely your 2023 or 2024, some 2022 from the city.

So based on the revised IDOT data that is specific to segments, I should have said segment data from IDOT was the analysis was updated.

So the segment analysis has been updated to reflect the newly released year 2024 data.

This did not impact the intersection analysis in any way.

The intersection analysis was previously referencing most recent available data not from IDOT.

The intersection analysis is largely based on data from the city and other private traffic studies in the area.

So we did update the capacity analysis for the roadway segments throughout the city, largely did not materially change the conclusions, but again, wanted to make sure that we were operating from the most current baseline data.

The other thing I wanted to highlight, and I believe this was touched upon in our last meeting, is as a part of our review of operational conditions at the intersections and roadway segments.

We did review the crash data.

High level based on a review of that crash data.

The most common crash types at the study intersections are listed on the screen, front to rear, cross movement, and side swipe.

And so what we did is we evaluated the capacity improvements at all of the intersections and segments.

We took a look at the benefits that those capacity driven improvements would have on safety.

And key key benefits, we will get to it in a minute, but we're introducing a number of turn lanes at key intersections.

In many cases, those turn lanes are identified based on queuing conditions where the queue is spilling back into the through lane, which can create some crash conditions.

So that reduction and queue spill back should alleviate some of that exposure to crashes.

It'll also reduce delay, which can cause a front to rear crash.

Signal modifications were identified at a number of intersections.

In many cases, we're including protected left turn phasing, which alleviates cross-movement crashes.

It provides dedicated green time for someone to turn left on a green arrow as opposed to trying to find a gap in through traffic to complete their left turn.

So that was carried through as we evaluated potential improvements at each intersection.

So now a quick pivot to future conditions and how the methodology you're used to develop your 2050 traffic projections.

The Chicago Metropolitan Agency for Planning has a region-wide travel demand model.

That model was referenced to derive segment traffic projections for all roadway segments, over 175 segments included in the analysis.

2050 traffic projections were obtained from CMAP.

And then based on the traffic projections, what we did was we took a look at the city based on a quadrant and evaluated average growth in the city using the CMAP data to determine an average growth rate in the four quadrants of the city using Washington Street and 75th Street as kind of the boundaries of those quadrants.

The derived growth rates are on the screen.

Those growth rates were then used to project intersection turning movement counts.

So we took the segment data from CMAP, year 2050, that's in the regional model.

That is the methodology that's used in a traffic impact study that's used in the phase one design process.

That was used for the segment analysis here.

In order to get at the intersection level turning movement volumes, we took these average rates and then did a growth projection to year 2050.

So if we had a 2022 turning movement count at Washington and Aurora, we would grow that count by 0.61% per year through year 2050 to develop a year 2050 traffic projection for that intersection, which we could then use to evaluate that intersection's operational conditions.

I will note the region-wide travel demand model is the assumptions are vetted by the city in partnership with CMAP.

They take into consideration the future land use map, development opportunities.

So it is again kind of the accepted standard for traffic growth in the region, including the city of Naperville.

So from that, we created this map, which is high-level summary of projected traffic volumes on the roadway segments in the city, and that was then used for the segment capacity analysis.

And then we also did the intersection capacity analysis.

We also needed to consider what improvements are already programmed or underway on the road network.

And there are a number of improvements that are planned by the city or DuPage County or IDOT on roadway segments and intersections included in the analysis.

Based on information that's available from these different agencies, the improvements on the screen, and I'll just kind of touch on the intersections briefly, were assumed to be completed by year 2050.

So 248th Avenue City's roadway widening project that's currently underway.

That was assumed to be included in the model for your 2050.

We assumed that roadway would have four lanes in the future.

75th Street, based on information from DuPage County, that is expected to be completed.

That widening project is expected to be completed by year 2050.

So that was included in the model.

Similarly, IDOT has identified a couple of projects in the city, Ogden and Naperville Wheaton Road, and then Ogden and Rickert.

And then there are a couple of under the other column that are related to private development where there is an improvement planned associated with an improved traffic study for Ogden and Iroquois.

That's a permit that's been submitted to IDOT.

It's currently under IDOT review, will be installed once that permit is approved.

And then Neighbor Boulevard, Naperville Wheaton Road, there's a some modifications to that existing intersection.

And then we touched on this for existing conditions, but just a re refresh.

So all of this went into a model.

We use synchro capacity analysis software for intersections and FHWA calculation methodology for segments.

And then the output is delay measured in seconds per vehicle.

A means you're moving pretty well, not a lot of cars around you, don't experience much delay.

F is I feel like I'm sitting in a lot of congestion, I have a lot of delay.

This is not acceptable.

In the city of Naperville, level of service E is acceptable in a downtown environment.

You expect to hire a delay in a downtown environment.

Typically in northeastern Illinois, we're looking to achieve a level of service D.

I will note that is not always realistic.

The arterial is free flow.

You have to wait for a gap in traffic.

That gap in traffic typically takes longer than what is it?

Less than 55 seconds, but 35 to 55 seconds, I believe, is the level of service D.

So it just it that's a function of being a minor leg stop controlled intersection at an arterial signalized intersection when you have a left-turn movement.

You only have a certain, and it's protected, you get a green arrow, you only have certain number of seconds on your green arrow.

You're going to automatically default to a level of service year F because you have to wait for the green time that all the other movements are receiving until you receive your green arrow again.

And that's typically kicking you automatically into an E or F.

So the level of service is a great measure, but you also have to kind of dig into the details.

And we looked at queuing and we looked at how the queues were operating.

We looked at the cycle length, we looked at the signal timing settings to evaluate where the improvements were appropriate.

So with all that said, I'm gonna pivot to Adam's gonna kind of quickly walk through by quadrant similar to what we did under existing conditions, walk through key findings from level of service, and then we'll get to the fun part, which is the improvements.

Yeah, good evening.

Uh Adam Kucharski, my focus is on uh roadway design and geometrics.

So like Rory was saying, we're focused on those segments and intersections that operate at the E or F level of service, and what we can do to improve those.

So focusing on those those quadrants, we're starting in the Northwest quadrant as we walk through where we're seeing deficiencies, and then what we can do to improve those.

So looking at the map here between the red and black segments and dots, that is going to identify you know where the specific locations are for improvement.

So right here we have three segments in this northwest quadrant uh listed uh operating uh at a poor level of service.

Similarly, uh the intersections are highlighted here, nothing different on the map.

We're just highlighting uh the intersections in the bullet points there.

Uh we wanted to focus on the locations that had uh all city jurisdiction on all four legs, as that requires the least amount of coordination uh up front as opposed to uh coordination with other agencies uh such as the county uh for for future improvements.

So when we look at those those four intersections, we'll see on a few slides here what we would recommend.

And boiling down you know, those segments and intersections that were at a poor level of service.

Uh we now show on the map here how we can address those.

So we looked at what can we do uh without any infrastructure improvements, so just signal timing.

So those are identified in the red red boxes here on the map.

There were uh four locations in that northwest quadrant.

I guess I jumped ahead here.

So uh between infrastructure improvements, uh those are in the blue box, and then signal timings are in the in the red box.

So we have three locations with uh actual added uh turn lanes, and then we have uh six locations here with signal timing improvements.

So as we walk through each location, uh there's gonna be a lot of information here, so I'll I'll take a pause every so often for for any questions.

But this first location here, we are looking at Aurora and West.

Um the capacity improvements would be westbound and eastbound, sorry, westbound left turn and eastbound right.

And again, like Rory had mentioned, there's uh significant you know, spill back into the through lanes.

So by adding turn lanes, that not only improves the capacity, but also uh theoretically reduction in crashes as well.

And by this improvement, we're achieving that level of service D that is uh considered acceptable.

Each improvement was then evaluated and a cost was given.

So we took a look to see what are the least amount of impacts we could make while incorporating turn lanes.

Um we strive to not impact any property where it were possible, staying within the existing right-of-way, um, considering in certain locations, uh paced bus stops, uh access for pedestrians, uh, driveway access and those sorts of sorts of items.

Moving on here to book and rickert.

You can see the scope that we have we have outlined for this location.

Uh capacity also improves to a level of service D by introducing uh a longer westbound left turn and a northbound right dedicated right turn.

Moving on to uh Western and Rickert.

Uh we're providing uh an additional southbound left turn lane here, and similar to the other locations, uh reducing that that spill back and providing additional space for vehicles to queue.

Something else to note, you know, what you'll see here is you know the existing right-of-way lines uh you know, in certain cases appear to be at or near what would be the proposed sidewalk.

Uh those right-of-way lines would have to be you know verified as the information we're pulling is directly from county GIS website, which for the most part is a is a good estimate in starting place, but you know, in future phases of the project, as this turns into phase one and phase two, right-of-day verification uh would be needed.

So that was the northwest quadrant.

Now we're moving on to the northeast.

Similar setup here, looking at the red and and and black segments and intersections.

Uh we've got four segments operating at a poor level of service.

And similarly, we have four intersections under city jurisdiction operating at a poor level of service.

There's 10 others that would require further coordination uh with different agencies.

Uh but again, for purposes of of what we're focused on now, uh, we're looking at those those city jurisdictions.

And so the improvements resulted in what you'll see, these uh these seven uh intersections in the blue squares here, and we'll continue to walk through those uh based on any improvements.

I can stop there and take any questions now if there if there's anything.

Um we defin we do have several others to get through, so I'll just take a quick pause if if anybody has any questions.

Can I ask a question?

Sure.

Um two locations, record and west, and um uh set uh and uh book, I think uh and ricket and book.

Those traffic jams occurs usually the backup from 75th Street.

Um second left turn lane over there.

Did you look at the backup?

Usually that traffic it backs up all the way back to towards what especially if you're going to uh west towards uh um record, it backs up the the record backs up significantly.

And uh I don't know if it is the like signal timing over there is pretty decent, it empties the uh the the storage area uh but the traffic on uh record is backed up because of the traffic on 75th Street.

So I can answer so as a part of um this analysis, uh DuPage County intends to widen 75th street to six lanes with that widening signal retiming would be required, and that um would influence uh the Rickert uh drive timing as well.

So in 25 years, I think it's a fair estimate to assume all signals will likely require some level of retiming, but particularly 75th Street, and then the um signals within that influence area would also be subject to retiming.

Your observation is correct.

I would expect in the future that that would be different.

Second question, when are you planning to implement these?

Yeah, so the projects would be implemented over the the next 20 years.

There's no short-term timing.

This is not um what is on the screen as not for construction.

This is intended for planning purposes only.

So there would be a whole and we'll talk about it at the end, but there will be a whole future construction drawing phase for with public input.

This was intended to essentially Adam and his team put together the concept geometry to inform the budget numbers, which can then inform the capital improvement plan, which will then inform the city's ability to proceed with implementation over the next 20 years.

Uh I have a question.

I apologize if you answer this already, but sure.

What is split phasing mean?

In this case, it shows north-south split phasing.

That is just um how the signal is operating.

So uh northbound, north-south-south, sorry, uh split phasing in the sense that we would have uh left turns operating independently from from the through movements, so that those would be provided separately.

Yeah, we're tag teaming this because I helped with the capacity analysis and then kicked it to Adam for the design.

So uh the split phasing in this case, there's so little traffic on the north leg of the intersection that it doesn't that leg does not need a lot of green time.

The um the opposite is true on the south leg.

You have a high volume of traffic, and that leg needs more green time.

So we can split phasing is kind of like what you see over by DuPage Children's Museum.

That signal, I think still runs split phasing where the east and west legs are not getting concurrent green.

In this case, it's north and south.

But I just had a question about the cost estimate.

So I was just kind of curious what's included in those costs.

Is like if you have to take additional right-away, was that calculated in there?

Utility relocation, and then also is this 2025 dollars that you're showing here.

Yes, so we have a uh summary of costs uh towards the end we can dive into some details, but uh at a high level, um we looked at you know pavement, curb, sidewalk, drainage, signal, any kind of hard costs like that.

Uh we did not include any engineering costs or right-away costs.

Uh we did identify where right-of-way would be needed, but didn't attribute a cost to that.

And then these are all in today's dollars that have not been uh escalated.

Uh, there is a 15% contingency uh on these numbers currently, and um generally we did we did include costs for utility relocations as well.

Uh at a you know, at a high level, it was what we could tell without any survey at this point.

So uh any visible uh utilities we could see was what what was included.

Thank you.

Okay, really quick.

So the escalation would be considered as these are prioritized through the CIP, you would escalate accordingly once you determine at what at what year over the 20-year timeline these would move forward.

Okay, so to the second quadrant we're gonna review now, the northeast quadrant.

Uh we are focused on what those improvements would be in this quadrant, and and looking first here at Washington and Deal.

Uh it's the dual westbound left turn lanes, uh, which requires you know widening on on either side and modifying the traffic signal, uh addressing the this those Q spill back uh as well here.

Uh and then just to note uh this particular location would still require some DuPage County coordination.

Similarly here, Washington and Bauer, uh north-south uh additional left turn lanes, um similar updates here, just showing these uh for for reference.

And you can see, you know, in this particular case, what is in the upper left quadrant here on the plan view.

Um we've got like I mentioned right away, you can see like the existing sidewalk is technically outside of the existing right-of-way.

This is this is typically rare.

Um, so just taking those you know proposed potential uh property takes well with with a grain of salt at this point.

Washington and Ogden, uh we've got an additional uh southbound right turn lane.

There's a couple of driveways uh at this location here as well that we would be working through and staying off of uh the property there in that corner, and also to note this is uh requires some some IDAC coordination as well because of uh Ogden Avenue.

This particular location uh I know has been looked at in the past.

Uh it would require you know significant property take uh for that residence, but in turn uh by fully kind of realigning this intersection and providing different pedestrian accommodations.

Um we can see here on the guess that is the east-west, uh, I guess it's plan north, plan south.

The roadway here is already wide enough to accommodate uh left turn lanes as they're pretty wide and have parking here.

So another consideration in the future is uh in certain cases, such as this, uh, where parking may or may not be allowed.

Uh it's it's it's possible that some changes in those I guess rules may need to be uh adjusted Ogden and Iroquois.

Uh I know with all the development going on in in this area, uh currently uh a very congested area as well.

And this would improve that level of service again to D, like we had uh referred to earlier.

Can I ask a quick quick question about that one?

Sure.

Um was this done before or after Seven Brew went in?

Like is the data including all of the traffic generated by Seven Brewers?

I don't believe so.

Um I think what we see in in a lot of those cases is especially with a newer development like that.

There's a peak in the volumes in the first X amount of months, and then in the long term, things tend to tend to settle out, but I'll let you add to that.

Yeah, that's a fair question.

I don't know off the top of my head that the data date at this intersection.

We can certainly follow up with that at the prior to the next meeting.

My assumption would be it does not include that, but there was a traffic study done, not for that development, but for Costco.

Um we can take a look at it.

We'll do some comparison between a couple of data points to to try to define regardless what is this is showing as level of service D indicates there's excess capacity in the future with this improvement.

Um the extent of the turn lanes may be something that would need further consideration in the future as a part of a future design phase, and that would capture kind of your um traffic condition with all users.

Uh so but I can take a look at the data set here.

I'm I'm I don't know off the tip of my head, but that's a fair question.

Thank you.

Touching in on on Ogden and Naper, uh just to note here this is another location that would require other other agency coordination and uh for the installation of these uh left turn lanes as well.

Um straightforward modification here with the eastbound right turn at Plank and Naper.

Again, staying within the existing right-of-way.

Can you go back to that one real quick?

Um are you aware that there's a proposed development that's going in the northeast corner of that?

Is that going to take that into account?

It will, I believe.

This is a case where the travel demand model does recognize that property kind of big picture, not that specific development petition that's on the table, or that was recently approved, I think.

Um but it does uh consider that that's a vacant parcel, that the southwest corner is a vacant parcel, and that would be reflected future traffic generated by redevelopment or development activity is included in the traffic demand demand model.

Okay, does it go further west on this for the uh the Tut Hill intersection as well?

I know there's there's a lot of talk about the traffic with this whole area right here.

So I'm almost thinking that.

Yeah, typically the travel demand model doesn't look at like the minutiae of uh development traffic routing and impacts.

Uh that would be something that would be evaluated in a traffic impact study that would be submitted with the development petition.

Um this improvement on the screen does not extend to Tuth Hill.

Okay, thank you.

So that was the the Northeast Quadrant, and moving on to the Southwest.

Again, three segments here that operate at a poor level of service.

59, Book Road, and 11th.

Similarly, three intersections uh that you see with the uh there's seven intersections total between E and F, but only three within city jurisdiction.

Uh those are listed here on the screen.

And based on those poor level of service, we've come up with these recommended improvements.

Uh the four that are listed there, in addition to the signal timing at book and hassard.

And again, I know the map's a little bit hard to see.

It's trying to cover a large area, but the red squares representing for the signal timing adjustment versus the blue is for infrastructure improvements.

Here's 248th at 95th Street.

North is pointing up as you would typically see.

We are modifying the signal for the dual left turns and reducing the delay to that level of service Disney of a right turn lane here on the for the northbound direction.

And similarly, the same thing at Route 59 and 95th.

You can see the realignment of the sidewalk here as well.

That would uh potentially require some right away.

Book in 95th.

We have uh based on the analysis, uh we would we would widen to provide two lanes in each direction.

Uh at this point, it would need further analysis to determine how far to carry those through lanes widening.

Uh for right now, the uh with the way um everything is is is analyzed and summarized.

This would still operate at a level service D with the improvements uh shown on the screen.

And then finally, here this the Southeast Quadrant.

Uh we're getting to the end.

We've got two segments that are operating at uh poor level service along with one intersection, which results in one intersection improvement.

Shown here, we have uh dual westbound lefts and a northbound right adjacent to the park, and this is reduces uh the delay that we're seeing in that westbound direction.

So getting to costs here, uh this is a summary of everything that was was on each of the individual slides that's over a 20-year period in today's dollars is a planning level cost estimate.

Um obviously future survey, uh, right-of-way considerations, uh, understanding the full extents of utility relocations would need to be considered.

Uh but from the information that we know now, uh, this is what those costs are looking like at just under five million.

So, Adam kind of walked through intersection level improvements.

Um, in addition to the intersection analysis, we did complete analysis of the segments.

Adam highlighted some of the segments per quadrant.

The next two this slide and the next slide kind of are a summary of that.

So it's a repeat of the data that you saw by quadrant, just to put together this this summary.

So this is segments projected to operate at level service E.

A key component was a review of jurisdiction.

In this case, there are a couple of inner couple of segments under two dot and I dot jurisdiction, book a section at book road under township jurisdiction.

The other key consideration when we look at segment performance is adjacent land use and right-of-way.

In some cases, there is not a realistic opportunity for roadway widening.

It's a function of a development pattern.

An example of that would be you'll see in the next stream, Washington as a as a clear example, right?

That that is projected segments are projected to operate at level service F in the future.

We are not gonna go through and create a six-lane um highway on Washington through downtown Naperville.

That's not a realistic assumption.

Um, the congestion there is a function of a thriving economy.

Um, and so there is a land use component to this and a right-of-way component.

The segment highlighted in green is where we did identify the improvement.

Uh Adam highlighted it at book and 95th, there would be widening of book associated with that improvement.

As Adam said, Um, the extent of that would be further reviewed as a part of the future design phase, but it would be widened to provide two lanes in each direction for a total of four lanes, whereas right now it's a single lane in each direction.

And then again, this is level service F.

In this case, several of these segments are not under city jurisdiction and therefore not part of the scope of the road improvement plan.

We do have an improvement on 111th street for widening, which is highlighted here.

So the roadway widening projects that are in front of you tonight are 111th Street west of Route 59 to 248th.

That would be widened to a four-lane cross section with turn lanes at key intersections.

Again, right now that's two lanes with some turn lanes.

And then we would recommend a westbound right turn lane at 248th.

And then the other roadway widening would be 119th Street east of Route 59 to DuPage River.

And then this is in the city's current capital improvement plan roadway extension to extend book road.

It currently terminates the aerial on the screen shows the current termination of Book Road at 111th Street.

So we would propose to continue to include the roadway extension in the road improvement plan to provide an additional north-south route in this quadrant of the city.

So with those three um roadway widening and extension projects, obviously that's an additional construction costs that Adam's team put together.

So the projects included in the draft road improvement plan before you this evening are just over 28 million.

Again, implementation over a 20-year period.

Prioritization of these projects would be identified as part of the future capital improvement plan process.

And then in addition, what we did was at the segment level, we also took a look at where are there opportunities where we maybe have too much pavement today and could potentially explore what's called a road diet, where how do you maybe reimagine some of that existing pavement that is we don't expect would be necessary from a capacity standpoint.

So again, this is a capacity-driven plan.

Um so we felt like this was an appropriate use of the road improvement plan to not only talk about where we have constraints, but maybe where we have opportunities as well.

So Whirley Road south of Muirhead based on projected traffic volumes is a segment that has um we would characterize it as excess capacity and potentially a candidate for a road diet.

A road diet again is reimagination or reuse of existing pavement that can take many forms.

It can be a bike on-street bike lane, it can be parking, it can be just a shoulder, striped shoulder.

How this pavement is used is something that the city um would incorporate in the future bicycle and pedestrian plane.

So the road improvement plan is not going to say use this for a bike lane, because that would be operating in a silo that's not looking at a comprehensive picture of the city's bicycle network and how a bike lane on Whirley Road may or may not interconnect with the network, but the road improvement plan will identify an opportunity that there's excess capacity here, and through the city's bicycle and pedestrian plan and future design processes.

This space could be reused without any challenges from a capacity standpoint.

A similar condition was noted on 87th Street from Route 59 to Book Road.

Yes.

Earlier the map showed uh 87th Street, Route 59 to Book Road, a big portion of that from Sky Lane to Book was not color-coded.

Is that jurisdiction of Naperville?

87th from Sky Lane to Book Road.

Yes, it is.

That may have been an oversight.

Let's see, you've got eagle eyes.

Oh, that is um, yeah, that we can connect that the IDOT data is like truncated in weird segments, so we can it's a good catch.

We can extend that blue line.

Thank you.

Eagle eyes, good catch.

I live right there, that's why I know it.

Yeah, I appreciate it.

Um, so I'll just say these uh images were were developed just for demonstration purposes only.

The top image shows the existing geometry of Worley Road with two travel lanes in each direction, and the bottom image is just a concept which would convert that pavement to a single lane in each direction with a center turn lane, and that creates space potentially for bike lanes or other striped shoulder parking, whatever may be appropriate based on future study.

So we've mentioned this a couple times, but just to reiterate uh the graphics that were on the screen are not um for construction, those were conceptual for planning purposes.

These would be subject to a future design phase, um, subject to future construction drawings, that would be a public planning process with public hearings and public meetings where appropriate, depending on funding.

And I think it's important to note as a part of that design process.

Um, there is an alternatives analysis.

We're we're here in 2025 developing this, things may change in 10, 15 years.

So as these intersections and projects move forward, alternatives are reviewed to make sure what's included in the RIP is the most appropriate option moving forward.

Um where appropriate, there may be grant funding for a number of these, especially those that maybe have a safety component.

Um, so that's identified as part of future implementation stages.

We talked about the phase one, phase two and the public input.

And then it's important to note that although the RIP is a capacity-driven plan, as this advances to future design phases, every project will have pedestrian accommodations and where appropriate relative to the city's bicycle network, uh bicycle accommodations.

So that's just inherent to the city's approach to design of intersections and roadway segments.

Accessibility is considered for any improvement moving forward, lighting.

Uh, there will be site distance review.

Um, that's part of the design process, as Adam mentioned, drainage, utility conflicts, right-of-way impacts, all of that will be further reviewed in more detail as this move forward, as these move forward.

The intent of the the concepts on the screen today was was really are these feasible?

Are these reasonably feasible relative to existing um right-of-way uh adjacent development?

In some cases, for example, Ogden and um Washington is a great example.

The we've recommended a southbound right turn lane.

Realistically, from a capacity standpoint, additional turn lanes are needed at that intersection.

However, based on right-of-way and adjacent development, that's not feasible.

And so the southbound right turn lane is feasible based on our review of ride of way and development.

The other turn lanes were not included in the road improvement plan because they're not feasible.

Um so I think that's important to know, and we can certainly walk through any uh questions you have on the intersections in more detail.

In terms of next steps, um, the ask tonight is for uh initial feedback on what we've presented, and we'll come back um hopefully in September to ask for a recommendation.

Um, and then ultimately this will move forward to city council for review and approval.

Um, and then through the capital improvement program, these projects will be implemented.

So happy to answer any questions.

I have one question.

Um first of all, thank you very much.

I your guys' presentations are great.

These are really fun meetings to attend.

Um and I mean that genuinely and truly.

Uh I was wondering were any uh environmental and I understand that'll be considered in further stages of the design, but for this, um, were any environmental impacts considered or like flagged?

Um, for instance, the extension of a book road between 111th and 119th.

Um, you know, it's right next to the DuPage River.

Um, so just curious about curious about that.

Yeah, so environmental wise when it comes to you know that particular example.

Um, we'll we'll make note of what needs to be investigated, and it's you know difficult to attribute necessarily cost to that.

Um, but that's really what that phase one engineering process is for to work through those.

Um in particular, what we'll find most times is you know, your current or past gas stations on a quarter of several of these intersections will have some sort of remediation that's needed.

Um, and then there is a there's a process for that.

Um we did not try to attribute uh a cost to that at this point.

Right, yeah, not from a cost standpoint, but from a standpoint of it's more of like I I think the community might have more concerns.

Yeah, you know, as opposed to like the river area, as opposed to you know, some underground storage tanks, you know, at an old gas station or something.

Yeah, that will it that is not part of this scope.

Um that will be part of the phase one, and and that's a that's a public process.

So the community would have an opportunity to voice any concerns based on the alignment alternatives for that future roadway connection.

There were as Adam said, there would be an environmental study completed at that time, but in terms of this process, that is that is not part of the scope of this project.

Yeah.

Uh yeah, again, I I echo that's a great analysis.

Thank you.

And I know you can't include everything in the presentation, but I'm curious if there's additional quantitative data you can provide or have provided the city for cost to benefit analysis for the recommendations, whereby one project may be a hundred thousand dollars estimated one, maybe three hundred thousand, in terms of what percentage of from going from an F to an E or an E to a D.

Is there a gradation there or also based on volume?

Because some intersections are much bigger than the others to help prioritize how we spend our money.

Yeah, we've talked about um including some prioritization uh considerations.

Um that will be included.

I think uh in some cases, we have created uh like very specific prioritization of projects.

I don't know that that is um necessarily how we'll proceed pending your input.

I think a lot of times there may be funding opportunities that change that prioritization or um bundling of projects.

So say the water utility needs to install a new water main, and you're going to advance one of your projects, uh, roadway projects, so that you're only disrupting an area once.

So sometimes it can be challenging to try to set forward very strict prioritization of projects when there can be a lot of disruption.

Um, but we will include um prioritization considerations.

Not necessarily like a cost benefit analysis, but some of what you're saying, like for 150,000, this has a significant improvement to this intersection, or this queue is significantly contributing to crash conditions and an additional turn lane would have a meaningful impact here, meaningful benefit here.

So there will be some prioritization considerations, but like strict prioritization of projects, I think would be limiting.

I can just do that.

I'll just do it.

You know what?

So uh I'm gonna entertain a motion to uh have further discussion on this item.

Do we have a motion in a second to discuss the presentation and provide input on the proposed update to the city's road improvement plan?

So moved.

A motion from Ms.

Nair.

Do we have a second?

Second?

Second from uh Miss Rose.

Do we have anyone from the public signed up to speak on this item?

We have I didn't sign up, but I'd like to speak.

Yeah, thank you.

And excellent work and Alison, thank you for the questions about the uh area around uh the north in the northeast quadrant, Naper Boulevard and Plank Road and Ogden and so on near uh Ogden and Seven Brew.

I have a question.

It seems like a lot of the solutions are dual left turn lanes.

Um can you state your name, please?

Kevin Madden Larson Lane, 33 year resident.

Uh in that situation where you go to a dual left turn lane.

What is the experience with flow?

Do more or less cars get through typically during that left or you know, for that left turn lane traffic, because I I assume when you make it dual, then cars are prohibited from turning left outside of having a left arrow.

Uh is it that in heavy traffic conditions, more cars make can make you know the flow is greater, and in less traffic conditions, the flow is lighter.

Uh, could you speak to that please?

Yes, the uh the purpose of dual left turn lanes is to increase capacity.

So it provides the ability for more vehicles to complete the left turn lane.

Um the signal timing is the statement is correct.

It operates under a protected left turn.

Um so just the green arrow as opposed to maybe a green arrow and then a green ball.

Um so the timing can be less.

It's not always the case, but the dual left turn lanes do provide additional capacity, meaning more cars can complete a left turn lane or movement.

Thank you.

For example, so going north on Naper Vault Boulevard at Hogden, uh, if more cars can make that left turn, then maybe less cars will turn left on plank and go up Tutt Hill and use a shortcut to get to Costco.

Right?

Yeah, are you traffic engineer?

No, but I have a strong interest in the topic.

Yeah, yes.

Um thank you for that statement.

A large um part of the and I think we cover this uh in May, so I apologize.

Uh a large portion of like the purpose of the road improvement plan is to do exactly as um Sir Madden stated to provide additional capacity on the arterial and collector networks so that it relieves cut through traffic on local roads through neighborhoods.

So the example provided, yes, if we can improve the condition, the operating condition at uh neighbor and octon.

Motorists are less inclined to take an alternate route, which may not be as direct.

Thank you so much.

And uh just one more item, and I really appreciate this opportunity.

Neighborville's awesome this way.

Um I think on on the uh plank and uh neighbor boulevard, the right turn, southbound right turn.

Um should it be noted that uh that's uh currently Township of Lyle jurisdiction, or is the assumption that the only way to do it would be by that property becoming incorporated in the Naperville and jurisdiction would transfer Naperville anyway as part of the process so at that particular intersection, you're talking about uh uh Plank west of Naper?

Yes, to go south on Naper.

So the so the way that that works is when a property incorporates uh so and in this case the property to the north of Plank annexed to the city.

So when that happens uh by state law, uh the city then takes jurisdiction of that full right-of-way to the south right-of-way line.

So since that property has annexed, now the city does have jurisdiction of just that section between uh be neighbor and uh Todd Hill, yes.

Oh, but then you know, west of there, then it would revert back to the township.

So it it's it's all comes in piecemeal, it's all about how the properties annexed.

All right, as how the the uh roadway jurisdiction works.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Do we have any other um anyone else signed up for public comments?

We have no other speakers signed up for public forum.

Do we have anyone else in the board with comments?

Okay, so uh hearing nothing, uh I'm gonna close this item.

And uh we're gonna move on to uh next we have uh 250960 approval recommendation to establish overnight parking exemptions for Carrollwood neighborhood.

Uh I think we have a presentation from the staff on that.

Um I do not have a presentation, but I uh we'll give you some details about it.

Great.

Um so the Carrollwood Homeowners Association has requested to be included in the overnight parking program.

Staff reviewed Carroll Wood's application and approved their need for overnight parking uh and deemed the neighborhood eligible for the program.

The neighborhood was constructed prior to 2015 and is not in compliance with the current off-street parking requirements per the municipal code.

Staff proposes issuing 17 overnight parking permits to be distributed by the property manager and locating the overnight parking exemptions on the south and west sides of Arcadia Circle, the north side of Carrollwood Road between Fort Hill Drive and Bordeaux Lane, and the south side of Carrollwood Road between Arcadia Circle and the terminus.

Staff is asking Tab to approve a recommendation to establish overnight parking exemptions for the Carrollwood neighborhood.

Staff is asking TAB to approve a recommendation to establish overnight parking exemptions for the Carrollwood neighborhood.

Okay, I'll entertain a motion to have a discussion on this item.

Do we have a motion and a second to discuss and approve?

So moved.

We have a motion from Mr.

Webb.

Second.

We have a second from Mr.

Korswinski.

Um we have anyone signed up from the public to speak on this item.

We have no speakers signed up uh from the public.

Does the board have any questions or comments for the staff?

Yeah, just kind of a general question about the overnight parking program.

Just has there been sort of any evaluation now that it's been you know, you've had it for a year or two, I guess, uh, maybe more.

Um's it going.

Have you done any follow-up?

Have you had received any feedback and also from the police perspective, enforcement?

Has that worked well with the hang tags?

Um, yeah, so we get annual updates from the homeowners associations with list of participants and any changes in who they've been distributed to.

Uh so we have had consistent contact with the participating residents.

Uh police department has not uh discussed any concerns with overnight parking uh as far as I'm aware.

Can you correct me?

They know more.

Yeah, no and none of the appeals that I've seen come through from overnight parking citations being issued have been because they had a hang tag uh that was provided to them and were ticketed anyways.

Um the officers that are out there um ticketing for it are doing a good job of seeing the exemptions that are being given and ticketing the cars that don't have them as as far as just like overnight parking in general, right?

I mean, the last year we have definitely seen more of an uptick in requests for to be involved in the program.

Uh and then on the other side, we're we're still seeing, I think on the PD side uh more uh I'll call them complaints of overnight park of vehicles parking overnight uh than we are on complaints of getting ticketed for overnight parking, if that makes sense.

Yeah, thank you.

Do we have any more comments?

Yep.

Just kind of following up on that.

Has there been any issues as far as running out of tags?

We have not had issues with that so far.

Most of the existing uh participants are not using their tags to the fullest capacity, so most have excess.

So not yet.

I'll just say for the other newer members of the board, since this is relatively new in the last few years.

Um we've discussed quite a bit these individual opportunities that that came up, and the city and the department does uh a great deal of diligence on to make sure that's when they apply for this that that they actually fit for it.

So in the past I'd ask all sorts of questions and they always have the right answer, and so uh I don't feel that there's need to to ask again for a different subdivision when I know that they're doing through the proper due diligence.

Anyone else?

Okay, um, hearing no more discussion, staff.

Can we please call roll?

All those in favor say aye.

Those opposed, nay.

Mr.

Hurley?

Aye.

Mr.

Kriswinski?

Aye, Mr.

Laird.

Aye, Miss Snyer.

Aye.

Mr.

Nibel, aye.

Mr.

Olgar?

Aye.

Miss Rose.

Aye.

Mr.

Webb.

Aye.

Okay, so motion passes, and we approve a recommendation to establish overnight parking exemptions for the Carrollwood neighborhood.

Next, we have 251027.

Approve a recommendation to establish a no parking, uh establish no parking restriction for mailboxes.

Um staff.

Yeah.

Hi, good evening.

My name is Jasmine Vega, and I'm a project manager with Ted.

Uh, today we're bringing forward a recommendation to establish a no parking restriction in front of mailboxes.

This came from a concern from a homeowner who claims that they are not receiving their mail at times due to parking in front of their mailbox.

Um, just some context.

This is a corner lot home where the driveway and the mailbox are separated.

This addition would put us in line with other local municipalities who have begun to establish similar ordinances to restrict parking within certain distances of a mailbox or within mail delivery hours.

In terms of signage, we don't intend to sign every mailbox, but rather review concerns on a case by case basis.

So in the case of this homeowner, we would sign that particular mailbox after staff was able to complete some observations and site visits.

Okay, so I'm gonna entertain a motion to have a discussion on this item.

Do we have a motion, a second to discuss and approve a recommendation to establish no parking restriction for mailboxes?

So moved.

Second.

We have a second from uh Mr.

Nyball.

Um do we have anyone in the public signed up to speak on this item?

We have no speakers from the public signed up to speak.

And does the board have questions or comments for the staff?

Go ahead.

I guess I'm I'm surprised that Naperville like that this hasn't been in the ordinance.

Um then I do have a concern to sign people's um mailboxes.

I just don't think that's really necessary.

And I think then like if someone can just call and observe that.

I I feel like it might be someone that's parking there that if the police is called on them once or they're ticketed or someone lets them know that they'll just not park there anymore.

I just feel like that's kind of odd that we're signing like people's mailboxes, and for what like what distance would that be?

Yeah, so as it's written, it's it's pretty broad.

So the language that we have is in front of mailboxes.

Um there isn't an existing ordinance because mailbox are typically found next to driveways, which is um covered under uh the current ordinance or the current code, um, that is about 10 feet, I believe.

So that essentially protects your mailbox.

Um I mentioned the corner lot home because the driveways on one leg, the mailbox is on it on another.

That's not typical, um, which is what made this case atypical.

Um do you want to address that second?

Yeah, so um what as Jasmine had mentioned, uh, we would not be signing every mailbox location.

Uh, this particular uh resident who has this concern lives adjacent to a school.

Also, similar to other restrictions that we have around a school, we will uh have like no parking here to corner signs, uh, and those will be 10 feet from the driveway closest to that corner, right?

So just extend that restriction.

Also, in this case with them being on a corner lot, uh, they have a driveway on one leg of the intersection, but then no driveway on that other leg.

So, what people are doing as they're queuing for pickup and drop off, uh, they are parking in front of this first this residence uh mailbox uh which would not be covered under our 30 foot feet rule from an intersection.

Uh so this restriction would allow us to restrict an extra 10 uh 15 feet to cover the in front of a mailbox.

Uh drive, you know, it's one of those things where you don't see it until now that you know that we have uh mailboxes that aren't adjacent to driveways, you kind of see them often as we're driving through neighborhoods.

Uh and not only for those specific houses on corner lots, um uh this would also impact uh in a lot of our multifamily neighborhoods, we have uh mailboxes that are combined uh with about like 10 to 20 other units, um and that comes up every once in a while with our overnight parking restriction as well, where we technically don't have an ordinance to block those mailboxes, and the US Postal Office doesn't have an ordinance, their rule is just they won't deliver mail if it's blocked.

So this ordinance will um obviously help with that fact.

Could people move the location of their mailbox to get more street essentially, you know, their own in front of their house?

They could if they could move their mailbox and they get an additional footage where no one else could park but them.

I it it seems like it it might maybe I'll say in like a visual representation of this condition uh I think would be helpful, especially in this case for discussion purposes.

And also, you know, was there any uh follow-up with the uh the resident in the the school, you know, can anything be done on a smaller scale to try to help uh alleviate this issue.

Sure.

So I I like to think that no resident would go through all that trouble uh to have that be done.

Um but here we'll show you the example.

So this is next to Fry Elementary School.

I'm in the tall grass neighborhood.

And here we have a uh the intersection of Brooks Edge and Brightweiser.

Okay.

Uh so it's this house in question.

Uh we have no mailbox adjacent to the driveway.

Uh the mailbox is located in between these two trees here.

Um so the restriction would be from about where my mouse is, and then obviously through the intersection.

And what's happening at this school and what's happening in a lot of schools, uh, parents tend to not utilize the uh pickup and drop off plan that's provided.

Uh and for district, I will say uh for district 204 schools, which tall grass is included in, we have plenty of uh internal driveway space for parents to utilize those driveways within the school compared to the two uh district 203 schools.

Uh but either way.

Parents are queuing here on the north side of Brooks Edge and picking up their kids as they cross uh using this path.

Uh and what's happening, that queue kind of comes through here.

Uh and we have quite a few compliance issues.

Um people are parking within, you know, very close to this driveway or through all three of these driveways along with the uh crosswalk.

Uh so with this sign, if this gets approved, right, we would you know include this sign, and then whenever we add a parking restriction to a school, we typically typically rely pretty heavily on PT PD to enforce it in the first week or two of the school starting.

So here in September, um, and you know, it's mostly frequent flyers, so that should stop it.

Uh but we rely on signs for enforcement.

Uh so you know, a sign here would do a lot of our leg work for us so sort of building on what you're saying, I think any of us that have had kids know that passions can run high at school drop-off.

It's not always the best uh representation of of manners that we've ever seen.

Um so my concern is people that live in school zones have cars in front of them, and it's annoying, I'm sure at times.

Um the morning, I don't know what time mail starts getting delivered, but it doesn't seem like it would be appropriate for the morning.

Someone could use this as a tool to try to keep people from parking in front of their house when it's not actually an issue prior to mail delivery.

And then secondly, I I'd be concerned that if there's less spots for people to park, then they're it may lead to worse and less safe behavior for where they actually can pick up and drop off their their kids if if there's now less spots that are available to to do so.

Uh fair questions.

Uh I'll state that uh so this this in particular, right?

Every single request that we would have come in, uh gets reviewed, you know, on an individual basis.

So, like for instance, this one here, uh we went out there a few times during uh afternoon pickup, and the congestion here was pretty intense.

Uh so the it goes through the intersection intersection of Brightweiser and Brooks Edge, where we have no uh here to corner, no parking here to corner signage, uh and cars are queuing through the intersection, creating somewhat of a safety hazard.

That's why we have no parking around intersections, uh, but we have no signs to uh reiterate that restriction.

Most people here, you know, residents of Naple, even on this border or even in staff level aren't aware of all of those restrictions.

Um, you know, 30 feet from an intersection, 20 feet from a crosswalk, 10 feet from a driveway.

Hopefully, most people know the fire hydrant 15 foot rule.

Um so we don't and we don't sign all of those.

Uh but around schools and around the downtown, you'll see those signed.

And it's because we have uh uh times of the day where we have congestion and we want to clear that up to just have uh free flow of traffic and better sight lines, especially for the pedestrians that are using this or using the crosswalks at that intersection.

So in this case, after those observations, it was deemed uh that this restriction would be very helpful in clearing up that intersection, and then at the same time, uh you know, my mail gets delivered in Naperville uh in between the hours of about three and five uh taught fry elementary gets out at 3:30, I believe.

Uh so it's right in that time where uh the resident had mentioned that uh her mail had been skipped a few times.

But it would be highly unusual for mail to be delivered prior to 9 a.m.

So for the morning time, it it would be uh unnecessary restriction.

No, no, no, of course.

Uh, but on the other end of it in the morning, we're we're still having those queue issues where we we still want to clear out the intersection.

Uh so we're talking, you know, typically we have 30 feet uh from the intersection for a restriction where no parking, including on the uh term on the uh non uh this is a term this is a three-way intersection.

So even um on the uh on the far side of the intersection where we have no street, there is a no parking restriction there.

It's not signed.

Uh but all day, every day, no one can park between those two driveways on the south side of uh of uh Brightweiser.

Uh so you know it's not that it this isn't necessarily, you know, in this case here, it's more of a congestion restriction, and we have the mailbox there uh as it's I won't say a plus, but it's just another variable uh as part of our evaluation.

I don't know.

I I'm talking too much and I I could hear in my voice that I'm maybe not as clear.

Uh but uh does that answer your question?

Uh no.

You repeat your question?

So I'm I'm guessing the intent of this was for people for spots where parking would otherwise be allowed for school pickup or drop off those areas that are not from the intersection where people are parking too close to their driveway, or sorry, to the mailbox where they're interfering with with mail delivery.

And so what we're trying to make sure is is unimpeded mail delivery in areas where people would otherwise uh have been allowed to park.

Sure.

Uh to uh I I think we're so right now I'll I'm guessing here 30 feet is this tree right here where my mouse is.

So no one can park between my mouse that's up at my mouse and on the other 10 feet away from this driveway currently.

All right, no restriction.

The mailbox is right here.

We're adding about I'd say 10 to 15 feet more of a restriction.

Uh so treat the mailbox as you would a driveway.

Uh, you know, typically as Jasmine had mentioned, our mailboxes are between one and two feet from a driveway.

Uh so we already have that 10-foot restriction for a driveway, so it's never an issue.

Um it's still an issue, you know, people call and complain about it all the time, but we have that restriction in the code.

So this is just giving uh those people that don't have that mailbox adjacent to their driveway uh the the same you know rights as people that have the mailbox adjacent to their driveway.

Uh but in this particular case, we're adding uh I'd say 10 to 15 feet of restriction.

Yeah, I just had uh a couple questions.

So would this be at all time limited to just during the day, like 6 a.m.

to 6 p.m.

or anything?

Um as it's written, it's pretty broad.

What we have is in front of a mailbox.

Um if that is a recommendation that members would like to suggest, um, I I think staff could consider the um uh mail delivery hours uh which is in line with other local municipalities and and uh the ordinance that they've begun putting together.

Okay.

Um yeah, and I'm just wondering too, for overnight parking, which we just talked about.

Um the previously approved permits, would those be impacted by this new ordinance?

Would you have to go back and reevaluate those and reduce some of the permits already distributed?

I don't believe so.

We do take into consideration things like fire hydrants, driveways, uh mailboxes in multifamily developments that have those kind of 10, 15 person mailboxes and try to avoid those as much as possible when making our recommendations for exemption locations.

Okay, thank you.

I know this is dragging too long.

Apologies for that for this mailbox issue, but is this during the school pick up drop-off time?

That when we the when we talk about parking, are they parking there and leaving their cars and going is or just those pickup and drop-off times during those times?

Yeah, I mean it's uh it's it's both, right?

It's it's it's it's a queue during the winter months, uh, but during the summer months, we see that uh parents will leave their car there and then meet their kids as a playground just north of this and it kind of becomes like a a parking for about a half hour to an hour uh while their kids are playing at the park.

I I have a couple concerns here.

One is putting a sign or or creating this ordinance, is that going to stop the parking over there?

Because the reason that they're parking over there is they're desperate.

That's that's that's the only thing that they found over there, or they're picking up their kids.

They're gonna be I don't know if it's gonna stop anything.

Uh the the the other issue that I wanted to ask you, the ordinance uh like you mentioned uh Ms.

Vega, you said it's pretty broad.

Um so for a mailbox car come in, drop the mail, and then go out.

Are we talking about 20 feet between we're not describing anything, just we're saying that so we have five feet on in front of the bike mailbox?

Is that what it is?

If somebody parks in there, how are we gonna?

I think we should make it clear, is what I'm trying to get it if we're gonna enforce this yes, it is pretty broad.

Um we don't define footage, but again, uh I think that's a right.

So we did um we were advised by our legal department, we did um speak with them several times about our concerns of uh distance from mailboxes.

Uh what we were advised to do is use the the broad language in front of mailboxes, but um I I hear you with the with the footage uh suggestion.

On on your first part of the question, uh I will say, you know, to your point that people will still uh park there.

We have found it a lot of success uh by when we do install we just uh last year did a kind of a rehab of all of our school parking restrictions.

Uh and when we did that, we made a few changes at certain schools, and when when we do those changes, we rely on PD to get out there in the first week or two uh of school and uh ticket warnings, all of that.

And it's it's frequent flyers, it's the same people that are coming there, and if you get them with those tickets and warnings at the beginning, it usually stops the behavior, and uh uh parents start utilizing the school pickup and drop off uh traffic control plan that's recommended by the city and the school district.

Mr.

Webb.

So just uh kind of echoing what I'm kind of getting from up here, as far as the time restriction, like say someone's having people over on Sunday afternoon, the way this ordinance is written, they can't park in front of that mailbox.

But or they could be ticketed.

But if this is only a concern when mail's being delivered when school's in session, that's just kind of my concern.

This strikes me as a little bit overly broad.

No, it's uh it's a fair concern.

As Jasmine had uh had mentioned, we were advised by the legal department to have it broad.

Um to your point, you know, it's the same thing.

You you can't have people overparking within 10 feet of your mailbox currently if your mailbox is adjacent to your driveway, uh, even off peak mailbox times or peak mail delivery times, sorry.

Council Walmart.

Thank you.

Um yeah, so I echo a lot of what y'all are saying up here too.

So this is a this is gonna be a citywide ordinance because of one complaint.

Have we gotten any other complaints about people parking in front of their mailboxes?

Uh this is this the uh single complaint that we're aware of.

Okay.

Um occasionally we'll get complaints in multi-family neighborhoods of people parking at the cluster mailboxes.

Yeah, then that that would make sense.

Um would it be easier just to extend the no parking from this intersection?

Um, like right where you're where the where the arrow is, just extend the no parking just there, and then it's kind of no school parking, you just can't park from where that arrow is to the intersection, and that would solve it.

That that could be a recommendation from the board.

Rather than a citywide ordinance that would impact mailboxes across the city.

I mean, I I I live in park addition, so we don't have mailboxes, so um, we have a walking mailman.

Um so I'm not sure how many this impacts, but given that we've never had a had a complaint about it before.

I'm I'm kind of wary about having a citywide ordinance to tackle one one problem.

So maybe we try something smaller, and then if it continues or we start getting other complaints, then we go from there.

Uh yeah, that'd be fine.

Uh so we can uh uh if if that is how the board wants to go, we can do a uh I wouldn't be in a minute.

Uh staff can come back in September uh with a separate ordinance uh just kind of attacking this specific location.

Uh we would not be able to do an amendment just with how it's written currently uh for this ordinance.

Okay, thank you.

Ms.

Rose?

Can you investigate if their mailbox could be moved?

As far as I know, the uh Pulsal Office would not allow that.

Uh the their address is Brooks Edge with their driveway on Brightweiser.

Um so that would be a uh I mean I guess we could always go that route would be a very complicated route that would involve uh an address change, you know that would it would be quite a bit of staff time uh and then also resident time as well to do that.

Mr.

Hurley is there for snow removal back when it used to snow here any uh distance from a mailbox that has to be cleared.

Like I don't really know when I when I remove the snow from front of my mailbox.

Do I have to make it like a one foot so someone can get out of their car and get to my mailbox or is it have to be 10 feet so they can actually swing their vehicle in?

So if there's is there an analogy from snow removal that we can use as a distance in terms of not being obstructing the mailbox when it's away from the driveway?

Uh there's we have no city ordinance uh and there's nothing in the Illinois Vehicle Code, but I we could check back and see if the postal service has anything based off conversations with them regarding this.

I uh suspect that they have nothing.

Do we have any other comments?

Um so I'm not sure where to move right now because I feel like you're you're gonna be coming back in September, correct?

Uh you can table the uh agenda item and then we'll come back with the uh with it written a little bit differently.

So we'll table the table the item until September.

Move the table.

Yep.

All right.

So we have a uh a motion to table the uh no parking restriction for mailboxes.

Yeah, move to table.

Got a motion from uh Mr.

Webb.

Second, second from Miss Rose.

All right.

So next we have 251022 approve a recommendation to establish a 25 mile an hour speed limit for the neighbor commons subdivision.

This is item one of three around near neighbor commons.

Um we have a something from the staff.

I don't know if we have a presentation or just a discussion.

Thank you, Chairman.

I just have a discussion.

Uh speed limits and right-of-way controls are established when new subdivisions reach build out and are turned over to the city for maintenance.

The neighbor commons subdivision had their roads finished in June of 2025, and staff conducted traffic evaluations in July of 2025.

Speed limits are established based on prevailing speed or the 85th percentile of free-flowing traffic.

Adjustments are made due to road factors, including driveways, crashes, pedestrians, and the presence of on street parking.

Staff collected speed data on Lucent Lane and Snapper Road.

On Lucent Lane, the prevailing speed was 24.75 miles per hour, and the adjusted prevailing speed was 19.8 miles per hour.

On Snapper Drive, the prevailing speed was 22 miles per hour, and the adjusted prevailing speed was 19.8 miles per hour.

The speed limit is set to the nearest allowable five mile per hour increment, which is which established 25 miles per hour as the lowest possible speed limit in accordance to the city of Naperville neighborhood residential speed limit policy, the I DOT speed limit manual and the Illinois Vehicle Code.

Staff is asking TAV to approve a recommendation to establish 25 miles per hour as the neighborhood speed limit for neighbor commons.

Okay, so I'll entertain a motion to have a discussion on this item.

Do we have a motion and a second to discuss and approve recommendation to establish 25 mile an hour speed limit for the neighbor commons subdivision?

So moved.

We have a motion from Ms.

Nair.

Second?

Second from Mr.

Ogner.

Um do we have anyone from the public assigned to speak on this item?

Uh we've no speakers signed up to speak.

Great.

Does the board have any questions or comments for the staff?

Hearing no uh or seeing no discussion.

Um staff, can we please call a roll?

All those in favor signify by saying aye, and those opposed, nay.

Mr.

Hurley.

Aye.

Mr.

Chris Winski.

Aye.

Mr.

Laird.

Aye.

Ms.

Nyer.

Aye.

Mr.

Nybel?

Aye.

Mr.

Olger.

Aye.

Ms.

Rose.

Aye.

Mr.

Webb.

Aye.

All right.

Motion passes, and we approve a recommendation to establish a 25 mile an hour speed limit for the neighbor commons subdivision.

Next, we have 251026.

Approve a recommendation to establish a right of way controls for the neighbor commons subdivision.

This is two of three staff.

Thank you, Chairman.

The streets in Naper Commons are currently operating under temporary stop controls that were put in place to accommodate construction during the traffic during during development.

A sign plan for Napor Commons was reviewed and approved by the city before building began.

This plan included no stop signs in the neighborhood and right of way would follow the Illinois rules of the road.

During construction, the developer altered the approved sign plan to install one-way stop at the T intersection of Hibbert Road and Weatherby Lane, which is the west one, and a two-way stop at the four-leg intersection of Hibbard Road and Weatherby Lane, the east one.

Staff conducted traffic evaluations to determine appropriate stop controls at each signed intersection following federal, state, and local procedures.

Staff reviewed Hibbard Road and Weatherby Lane.

The West one is the T intersection and did not find concerns that would support a one-way stop.

Staff also reviewed Hibbert Road and Weatherby Lane East intersection and determined that a two-leg stop control, two-way stop control should be established to clarify the assignment of right-of-way due to the existing conditions and the volumes of traffic on the intersecting roads being approximately equal.

Staff is asking TAB to recommend approval of establishing a two-way stop at Hibbert Road and Weatherby Lane, East Intersection, with Hibbert stopping for Weatherby.

Thank you.

I'll entertain a motion to have a discussion on this item.

Do we have a motion and a second to discuss and approve recommendation to establish right of way controls for the neighbor commons subdivision?

So moved.

We have a motion from Mr.

Webb.

Second.

Second from Mr.

Hurley.

Do I have anyone from the public signed up to speak on this item?

There are no speakers signed up.

Does the board have any questions or comments for the staff?

I had one question.

Is there any few meetings ago?

We we discussed a stop sign being removed at like a T intersection.

And so I was wondering for this uh development.

Are there any cut-through potentials at that location?

Uh no.

At that location, it terminates into a court and it then has the uh forest preserved beyond that.

So there's no place for traffic to come to or from thank you.

Okay, uh seeing no more discussion, uh staff.

Can we please call a roll?

All those in favor signify by saying aye, and those opposed, nay.

Mr.

Hurley?

Aye.

Mr.

Chris Winski?

Aye.

Ms.

Mr.

Laird?

Aye.

Ms.

Nyer.

Aye.

Mr.

Nybell?

Aye.

Mr.

Olger?

Aye.

Ms.

Rose?

Aye.

Mr.

Webb.

Aye.

Okay, motion passes and we approve a recommendation to establish right-of-way controls for the neighbor commons subdivision.

Next, we have 251025.

Approve a recommendation to establish one-way streets for neighbor commons subdivision.

Ums Smith, do you have a discussion on this?

Yes, thank you.

Prior to development, Napor Commons Roadway Plan was reviewed by the city.

This plan included one-way streets for Snapper Road and Renson Avenue.

Both streets are currently operating and signed as one-way streets.

Staff is asking TAB to recommend approval for establishing Snapper Road and Rens and Ave as one-way streets.

Okay, I'll entertain a motion to have a discussion on this item.

Do we have a motion and a second to discuss and approve a recommendation to establish one-way streets for neighbor commons subdivision?

Motion to discuss.

We have a motion from uh Ms.

Rose.

Second.

Second from Ms.

Nair.

Um, do we have anyone from the public signed up to speak on this item?

We have no speakers signed up.

Does the board have any questions or comments for the staff?

Ms.

Nair.

Um, yeah, I'm just not that familiar with this area, so I'm just curious why there would be one-way streets in this particular area.

Seems unusual.

I am not sure.

Um, it is surrounding a park.

Uh Andy, do you know?

Yeah, when when this development came forward, uh, the developer wanted to create uh you know, kind of a unique space around this park.

Um, and then this was you know, kind of part of that plan is they have these one-way, this one way couplet.

Okay, thank you.

Anyone else?

Mr.

Hurley.

Does the street is a wide enough support two-way traffic?

And and have you observed how it's being used already?

Like is this going to materially impact how people are driving today?

People are currently treating this as a one-way road.

It is signed as a one-way and it has appropriate pavement markings.

Anyone else?

I think it would it would just be more easier with like a visual because this is like a very large um boulevard.

Um it's not just like a normal residential street that's just one way.

The road width is 20 feet.

It is not sufficient for two-way traffic.

I mean, yeah.

I'll just as I said, yeah, I mean, I believe the streets streets are 20 foot wide.

That's the minimum that our fire department requires for you know to main make sure that they're you know largest vehicles can get through on those streets.

So that's that's the reason for the width.

It would not be it would not meet our standards for two-way traffic.

Go ahead.

Sorry.

Thank you.

Um, I mean, this has been one way ever since it was built.

I mean, this has been around for a couple years now.

It's always been one way.

That's just the flow of it around the park.

Um, I always a little bit confused as well because I went over.

I'm like, this is already one way.

Why is this coming up tonight?

But it sounds like you're just basically getting it on the books.

So so yeah, so when a development is is under construction that the developer technically has you know maintenance of the streets.

Um so this is you know, once the city accepts the streets, we're just kind of codifying what's already more or less been approved when I went through the development process.

Yeah, exactly.

Thank you.

Okay, do we have any more uh discussion on this topic?

Okay, hearing no more discussion, staff.

Can we please call a roll?

All those in favor signify by saying aye.

Those opposed, nay.

Mr.

Hurley?

Aye.

Mr.

Kwzwinski?

Aye.

Mr.

Laird?

Aye.

Ms.

Nyer?

Aye.

Mr.

Nybel?

Aye.

Mr.

Olger?

Aye.

Ms.

Rose?

Aye.

Mr.

Webb.

Aye.

All right.

Motion passes.

We approve a recommendation, establish one-way streets for neighbor commons subdivision.

Next, we have 251012 receive board and commission member training.

Uh, do we have a presentation from the staff?

Yes, we do.

Uh so as part of uh uh the city of Naperville's boarding commission kind of revamp and uh cleaning some things up.

We do now require that the members uh go through uh member training.

Uh so this will be very exciting.

Um let's get started.

Uh so to start off, uh we're gonna talk about the importance of the boards and commissions and kind of what you guys are providing for us and the public uh member responsibilities and then meeting rules and participation.

Uh so Naperville uh has about 150 volunteer positions on almost 20 boards and commissions.

Uh these boards and commissions are integral are an integral part of citizen participation uh within the city of Naperville, uh, and it's an important asset to the city.

Volunteers who serve on this board are on these boards and commissions, exemplify outstanding community involvement.

Appointments are reserved for city of Naperville residents and are made by the mayor with approval from the city council based on experience and interest.

Members that are chosen to serve in part are based on is based on their unique background and perspective, and they must commit to active full participation in the role of the group on which they serve.

So the importance of the boards and commissions.

Providing unique experiences and in-depth analysis of topics, leveraging unique backgrounds and expertise in the community, a channel between residents and elected officials, and assisting staff and elected officials in providing a different perspective.

And lastly, increasing consistency in community planning and discussions.

So some responsibilities.

So members are expected to arrive on time, be prepared for, and actively participate in all meetings.

This is new as of last year.

Board and commission members must attend at least 75% of all meetings.

Less than 75% attendance may result in removal from that board and commission.

An excused absence is defined as a personal or family illness, death in the family, uh, maternity, paternity leave, or family emergency.

Boards and board and commission attendance is regularly reviewed for all boards.

If a board or commission member has an outstanding circumstance, please reach out to your staff liaison.

So term limits, uh terms for all boards are three years unless otherwise noted.

Members are limited to two consecutive terms on a board, and members are eligible to serve on another board after that fact.

If a vacancy occurs, the member appointed to fill the vacancy will serve for the unexpired term.

Uh and then terms expire on May 30th, and members can serve up to 180 days beyond the end of their term while new appointments are completed.

Uh liquor commission appointments are not subject to term limits and serve on four-year terms aligned with the mayor.

Uh so reappointments.

At the end of the first term, the staff liaison will review will review the members' attendance and participation.

Uh if the board member is below that 75% mark uh for the previous 18 months, they will not be recommended for reappointment.

Uh board and commission members will be asked if they are interested in serving an additional term, and reappointment recommendations are subject to approval by the mayor and city council.

Uh so some ethics here.

As a public official, you are subject to various laws, rules, and policies, including those in the Napoleon Municipal Code and the State Officials and Employees Ethics Act.

Uh this applies to both elected officials and city employees.

These laws are intended to ensure that the functions of local government are conducted with fairness, honesty, and integrity.

And to act ethically, you must use city resources in the most productive and efficient way possible and only for the work of local government.

Members will also avoid placing your personal or financial financial interests in conflict with those of the city.

So some more ethics.

Commissioners are prohibited from being financially interested in any contract.

The commissioner may be called upon to vote.

Commissioners are in fiduciary position requiring faithful performance of duties and are prohibited from using authority to advance individual interests.

Written discussion disclosure should be filled with the city liaison before the meeting.

So here is where that is listed in our city municipal code in chap in 2-1-13.

So transparency.

Good governance requires a high degree of transparency and accountability in all public operations and processes.

Meeting locations are here at City Hall and meeting rooms A, B, or C or Council Chambers, designated seating for board members, staff, and public, nameplates for board members and staff, consistent public form rules and processes, consistent agendas and improved content for agenda and improved content for agenda items and annual reports highlighting accomplishments and challenges.

Audio and video recording for all boards and commissions has started, I believe, uh starting in September for we don't fall into that, but some of the smaller boards and commissions are now all audio or video.

So FOIA, ensure public access to government records, uh paper and electronic.

This includes text, email, DM, et cetera.

Uh subject to FOIA if it is related to city business.

Uh personal versity email account is irrelevant.

Uh personal verse city devices is irrelevant.

And this includes communications during meetings.

Um please uh remember that if you are using your cell phone during uh tab meetings.

Uh exceptions include privacy, security drafts, propriety trade information, and legal advice.

All right, so meetings rules and participation.

Uh so the open meetings act, uh, any gat.

So this is very important uh as we get going on our bike and ped uh plan update.

Uh there will be public meetings involved in that.

Uh so any gathering of majority of a quorum discussing public uh business, there is a public meeting required.

Uh so the topic would have to be within the scope of the board or commission, uh, and this would account for even at a purely social gathering.

You cannot discuss city business with a majority uh of a quorum.

Uh this includes email, text, social media.

Um as far as uh this is on the staff level public view.

Before the meeting, we have 48 hour public publication notice of the agenda at the meeting, public access and forum after the meeting approval and posting of the minutes.

Uh so a quorum, the majority of a public body is required to do the business.

For our case, that would be five members.

Uh, if a quorum is not available, the meeting will be canceled.

Uh so here is that.

Uh this is for all boards and commissions.

We have nine members, so our quorum is five.

Uh the majority of the quorum would be three.

Uh so remote participation.

Uh, this is only permitted in cases of personal illness or disability, employment purposes, or other public business, a family or other emergency emergency, an unexpected child care obligation.

A motion and majority vote of those members physically present is required to allow remote participation.

Although allowed by the municipal code, remote participation is not encouraged and should be viewed as an exception.

For public participation, Naperville encourages active citizen participation in city council and board and commission meetings.

Uh, the input provided by the citizens of Naperville creates a well-rounded discussion that benefits everyone.

Uh agendas of all meet for all meetings are posted and maintained on the city's website.

Uh each meeting allows residents to address the board and commission with issues or concerns.

Uh so some rules.

Uh written comments can be submitted in advance of the meeting.

Uh we have the sign-up sheet at the meeting.

Uh, the public should sign up for a specific agenda item or public forum for items not on the agenda.

Uh as you guys know, the speaker's time is limited to three minutes unless additional time is granted by the chairperson or a majority vote of the board and commission.

Uh board members may ask speakers questions at the conclusion of their comments.

Speakers shall refrain from harassing comments, uh, and members of the audience shall maintain decorum.

Procedures, motions, and voting.

Uh the chairperson recognizes board members by name before speaking.

A city staff member with knowledge of the subject matter may be asked for an opinion or to provide further information.

Uh member makes a motion, a motion is seconded.

Uh debate can occur prior to motion being made or after a motion is seconded.

Uh floor is open for debate by members, and then a chairperson typically calls for a vote.

So the chairperson's role, uh one year term uh appointed by the mayor, uh leads and manages the meeting, sets the tone, ensures proper procedure, access the staff contact, welcome and include student representatives.

Uh regarding the student representatives, we should be seeing those some probably at the November meeting for our first meeting.

Um and then it also ensures compliance.

Uh so now governing rules.

Oh, sorry.

Uh so lastly, governing rules, uh, as you guys know, uh, as we mentioned, our state city code and state law, uh, Robert's rules, um are the uh rules of order, and then we have special rules or procedures adopted by the boarding commission as authorized by the city, and then council by ordinance or resolution.

Are there any questions?

So I'm gonna entertain a motion to have a discussion on the item.

Uh do we have a motion and a second uh to discuss uh the board and commission or member training?

Um motion from Mr.

Hurley, second, second from Ms.

Nair.

Um, so do we have anyone from the public sign up to speak on the item?

We have no speakers signed up to speak.

Okay.

Does the board have any questions or comments about the training?

I have two comments I just want to make.

Um, there was a mention on cell phones.

Uh um Mike, the previous chair recommended no cell phones because we don't want um FOIA or anything like that.

You don't want to get your cell phone checked.

So all cell phones should be off, I in my opinion, during the meetings.

Um, and then the open meetings act.

So we have a nine-member board, five for quorum, three for a majority of quorum.

So when three of us are talking together, that's a majority of quorum, and then uh that meets the open meetings act.

So two or less people talking together about the topics outside of this meeting.

Yes, that is correct.

So I just want to reiterate that you know that's one all of that is very important.

That is one piece that is very important as we get going on uh the public process of the uh bike and pad meeting.

Uh so if we do end up having as part of that any sort of uh uh you know public meeting downstairs with boards and whatnot, uh and uh we typically invite TAB to those public meetings.

Uh we would have to do some sort of sign-up sheets uh where two people are allowed from five to five thirty and so on.

Uh, but that is a very important rule.

Anyone have any other comments?

Mr.

Hartley.

So per the the cell phone rule and the nature of this board being very um geographically specific for any topic, you usually do pretty good job with it.

But any time you talk about something, the ability to see the map on there, especially if it deviates from exactly what may have been in the agenda, it's very helpful to us so we can actually get the context of where you're you're talking with talking about.

Um I've always thought it strange that for example, Mr.

Olger joined and he had to vote on meetings from what he did not participate in, may not even seen it.

Is that I don't know, Robert rules of order well enough, but can we abstain if we don't actually have any knowledge of uh whether or not you approve of something you had no participation in?

We've had that happen before, uh, and it's uh it's up to the member if they feel comfortable voting on it.

Uh in a lot of cases, member new members to boards and commissions have reviewed the previous uh meeting to kind of get a lay of the land.

Uh so if they feel comfortable voting on the minutes, they are allowed to.

So but they can't abstain.

But is it an expectation?

Let's say if someone misses a meeting because they couldn't couldn't help it.

Is it an expectation that they view the recorded meeting so they can speak to it, or is it up to them?

Uh I mean it's entirely up to them.

It is stated on the presentation that it is expected that boards or that members are aware of uh you know uh you know, have that subject matter expertise, I guess, on what we're talking about on the agenda.

Uh so I would think that would fall under that line as well, that they would review uh videos of a meeting that they had missed.

All right, and then one last question because I know it's it's after nine.

But are we even technologically set up for remote participation if someone asks for it and gets approval?

Do we have the ability to even do that here?

Uh uh we do in this chamber.

I mean, occasionally the city council members do remote in.

Uh I I can't say we've ever done it with with TAB, uh, but that is uh a possibility.

We'd probably need to uh look into a little further about how they how to set that up.

Thank you.

It's a good question now that we have the 75% rule.

I'd imagine that may come up a little bit more often.

Any other comments?

Okay, hearing no more discussion, I'll close that item.

And the next item is old business.

I believe we have a staff update on the bike and pedestrian plan.

Yes.

Uh, we are currently finalizing the selection of the firm that will aid in the bicycle and pedestrian plan update, and we anticipate the project starting in September.

Thank you.

Does anyone have any questions?

I just have one comment.

Uh, just based on the the presentation that was given earlier, which was awesome, and then the bike and pedestrian plan.

I think it's going to be super important that we're tying these two things together.

I was thinking about how 75th is a separator of the city.

We want to make sure we're not separating our city that we have a bike and pedestrian plan in place to cross 75th, and how Book Road is becoming a north-south uh arterial, I guess, now, and it's that's a super big uh bike and pedestrian area.

So I it's just good that we're doing all of this together.

That was my only comment.

Um do we have anything else for old business?

Hearing nothing else, we'll close old business.

Next up is new business.

Do we have anything for new business?

Hearing nothing, we'll close new business.

I'll now entertain a motion and a second for adjournment.

Do we have a motion and a second to adjourn the meeting?

So moved.

Motion for Mr.

Webb.

Second.

Uh second from Mr.

Elger.

Um so staff, can we please call the roll?

All those in favor signify by saying aye.

Those opposed, nay.

Mr.

Hurley?

Aye.

Mr.

Kruzwinsky?

Aye.

Mr.

Laird?

Aye.

Ms.

Nyer?

Aye.

Mr.

Nybel?

Aye.

Mr.

Olger?

Aye.

Ms.

Rose?

Aye.

Mr.

Webb.

Aye.

Okay, so we have unanimous agreement on the adjournment and uh and this concludes the August 7th, 2025 Transportation Advisory Board meeting.

It was a good one.