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Board of Aldermen Meeting on Elm Street Redevelopment Proposals – August 8, 2025

Board of Aldermen MeetingsFriday, August 8, 2025
BodyNashua, New Hampshire
SessionBoard of Aldermen Meetings
DateFriday, August 8, 2025
StatusFILED
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28:48

Meeting of the board of all the men to order on Thursday, August seventh, twenty twenty-five at six PM in the Aldermanic Chamber, which has been duly noticed in two places, including the city's website in accordance with the requirements of RC Nine One A.

29:02

Tonight the prayer will be offered by Alderman O'Brien and Alderman Senate can lead us in the pledge to the flag.

29:31

So that any announced decisions made by us will always be for the betterment of the greater happiness of all our fellow citizens.

29:38

So help us God, amen.

30:00

Let's start the meeting by taking a roll call attendance, please.

30:04

Mr.

30:05

Clerk.

30:06

Thank you, Madam President.

30:09

Alderman O'Brien is present.

30:13

Here.

30:15

Alderman Moran.

30:19

Alderman Thivodeau.

30:21

Here.

30:22

Alderman Gueva.

30:24

Here.

30:25

Alderman Lopez.

30:28

Alderman Sullivan.

30:32

Alderman Clemens?

30:34

Here.

30:35

Alderman Senate.

30:37

I am I am participating remotely via Zoom due to uh child care needs.

30:44

I'm alone in the room and I can hear everybody in the chamber.

30:48

Okay.

30:48

And Alderman said a little housekeeping so you know I have the presentation screen on my desk, so I don't think I'll be able to see you on Zoom.

31:00

If you have something to say, you can best probably to uh notify the president, okay?

31:07

I will do that ultimate.

31:09

Thank you.

31:10

Alderman Jetty.

31:13

Alderman Thibodeau.

31:17

Alderman Clay.

31:19

Here.

31:20

Alderman Dow.

31:23

Alderman Kelly.

31:25

Here.

31:26

Alderman Wilshire.

31:28

Here.

31:29

Okay, you have uh nine members present.

31:34

Thank you.

31:36

Also joining us this evening is Mayor Jim Donchus.

31:39

Tonight we have presentations on the Elm Street Redevelopment Project, and I'm going to recognize Administrative Services Director Tim Cummings for an introduction of the President.

31:50

Thank you, Madam President.

31:51

For the record, Tim Cummings, Director of Administrative Services.

31:55

Thank you, and good evening.

31:57

The reason why we're here this evening is to hear two proposals.

32:09

We will have Ryan from Penrose coming up and going to give you an overview of their proposal for the redevelopment of the Elm Street Middle School.

32:19

As you may recall, this body put out uh uh approved a resolution uh back in 2024, um basically indicating that we would be looking to dispose of uh something just under nine-ish acres uh that had an improvement of the Elm Street Middle School through an RFP.

32:42

We have uh uh two proposals in hand to date, uh, one from uh Pen Rose and another one from LMG.

32:50

Um and we will be hearing from LMG a little bit later uh this this evening.

32:54

Uh the way I envision um this this uh presentation unfolding is is that they will provide you the the presentation that they had previously given, um allow you all an opportunity to ask questions along the way as they may arise.

33:11

Just want to tease out one minor point, which is if you believe that you're going to start asking questions that may be um business terms of nature.

33:21

I I just want to remind you all that that's something that you may want to go into a non-public for, and so uh I defer to you as to whether you want to you know hear the presentations in public and then maybe ask your questions in a non-public.

33:35

Um but nonetheless I wanted to kind of just tease that out before we start tonight so there's an understanding of how this would all unfold.

33:43

Um, and again, doing that at uh at the next presentation a little bit later later this this evening.

33:50

Um after this evening's presentation, uh what I envision happening is we will continue with our um vetting process.

33:57

There's a uh a working group that is continuing to vet their proposals.

34:02

Uh ultimately what I envision is a recommendation back to you and the mayor sometime, ideally in the in the early fall.

34:11

Um I I will leave my comments there unless anyone has any questions of me.

34:17

Seeing none, madam president, I'd like to ask to call up Ryan from Penrose, who will start off the presentation this evening.

34:24

Thank you.

34:24

Thank you.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Affordable Housing█████████████████████████████████████████████46%
Historic Preservation███████████████████████████████████36%
Procedural██████████████████18%
Summary of Proceedings

Board of Aldermen Meeting on Elm Street Redevelopment Proposals – August 8, 2025

The Nashua Board of Aldermen convened on August 8, 2025, at 6:00 PM in the Aldermanic Chamber to receive presentations on two proposals for the redevelopment of the Elm Street Middle School property. The meeting began with a prayer, the Pledge of Allegiance, and roll call establishing nine members present. Administrative Services Director Tim Cummings introduced the process, noting that the city had issued an RFP for the approximately nine-acre site and received two proposals: one from Penrose and another from LMG (to be presented later). The board heard from Penrose representatives, then voted unanimously to enter non-public session to discuss business terms.

Discussion Items

  • Penrose Proposal Presentation: Ryan Kierkoff (Penrose) and Philippe Saad (Demella Schaefer Architects) presented two redevelopment schemes (A and B) for the historic Elm Street Middle School. The proposal aims to preserve the historic building, convert it into mixed-income housing, and add new construction. Key elements include:

    • Scheme A: 168 units, 230 parking spaces (1.37 per unit), preserving the Chestnut Street Gym and cafeteria. Unit mix would be predominantly studios and one-bedrooms in the historic portion, with some two- and three-bedroom units in new construction. Approximately 85% of units would be income- and rent-restricted affordable housing at various area median income levels, with the remainder market-rate.
    • Scheme B: 184 units, 262 parking spaces (1.42 per unit), demolishing the Chestnut Street Gym to allow larger new construction.
    • Community benefits: Maintaining the front lawn as public open space, preserving the Keefe Auditorium (with a potential future box office), providing on-site resident services coordinator, and dedicating amenity spaces (e.g., community room, fitness room, children’s play area).
    • The team highlighted their experience with historic school-to-housing conversions, citing the pride project in Boston (74 units of affordable senior housing) as a comparable example.
    • The presentation emphasized sustainable design (preserving embodied carbon in existing bricks) and long-term community engagement.
  • Procedural Discussion: After the presentation, Alderman Clemens suggested moving to non-public session to discuss business terms. Alderman O'Brien motioned to enter non-public session under RSA 91-A:3, which was seconded and approved unanimously (9-0). The board entered non-public at 6:37 PM.

Key Outcomes

  • Motion to Enter Non-Public Session: Passed unanimously (9-0) to discuss business terms related to the Penrose proposal. The public portion of the meeting concluded at 6:37 PM.
  • Next Steps: Director Cummings indicated that a working group would continue vetting both proposals, with a recommendation expected to the board and mayor in early fall 2025. Further public presentations from LMG were anticipated later in the evening (after the non-public session).

Meeting Transcript

Meeting of the board of all the men to order on Thursday, August seventh, twenty twenty-five at six PM in the Aldermanic Chamber, which has been duly noticed in two places, including the city's website in accordance with the requirements of RC Nine One A. Tonight the prayer will be offered by Alderman O'Brien and Alderman Senate can lead us in the pledge to the flag. So that any announced decisions made by us will always be for the betterment of the greater happiness of all our fellow citizens. So help us God, amen. Let's start the meeting by taking a roll call attendance, please. Mr. Clerk. Thank you, Madam President. Alderman O'Brien is present. Here. Alderman Moran. Alderman Thivodeau. Here. Alderman Gueva. Here. Alderman Lopez. Alderman Sullivan. Alderman Clemens? Here. Alderman Senate. I am I am participating remotely via Zoom due to uh child care needs. I'm alone in the room and I can hear everybody in the chamber. Okay. And Alderman said a little housekeeping so you know I have the presentation screen on my desk, so I don't think I'll be able to see you on Zoom. If you have something to say, you can best probably to uh notify the president, okay? I will do that ultimate. Thank you. Alderman Jetty. Alderman Thibodeau. Alderman Clay. Here. Alderman Dow. Alderman Kelly. Here. Alderman Wilshire. Here. Okay, you have uh nine members present. Thank you. Also joining us this evening is Mayor Jim Donchus. Tonight we have presentations on the Elm Street Redevelopment Project, and I'm going to recognize Administrative Services Director Tim Cummings for an introduction of the President. Thank you, Madam President. For the record, Tim Cummings, Director of Administrative Services. Thank you, and good evening. The reason why we're here this evening is to hear two proposals. We will have Ryan from Penrose coming up and going to give you an overview of their proposal for the redevelopment of the Elm Street Middle School. As you may recall, this body put out uh uh approved a resolution uh back in 2024, um basically indicating that we would be looking to dispose of uh something just under nine-ish acres uh that had an improvement of the Elm Street Middle School through an RFP. We have uh uh two proposals in hand to date, uh, one from uh Pen Rose and another one from LMG. Um and we will be hearing from LMG a little bit later uh this this evening. Uh the way I envision um this this uh presentation unfolding is is that they will provide you the the presentation that they had previously given, um allow you all an opportunity to ask questions along the way as they may arise. Just want to tease out one minor point, which is if you believe that you're going to start asking questions that may be um business terms of nature.

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