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Nashua Planning & Economic Development Committee: Inclusionary Zoning Discussion (August 27, 2025)

Board of Aldermen MeetingsWednesday, August 27, 2025
BodyNashua, New Hampshire
SessionBoard of Aldermen Meetings
DateWednesday, August 27, 2025
StatusFILED
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17:22

Can you hear us?

17:25

Hello, Kyle.

17:27

Today I feel like you're like I I can't hear you, but there's a substantial echo.

17:36

Kyle, what about now?

17:36

Is it better?

17:37

Yes, that's way better.

17:40

Okay.

17:41

Okay.

17:48

Oh, should we hear me okay?

17:50

Don't worry.

17:51

Yeah, Kyle, we can hear you okay.

17:52

It's pretty good.

17:53

Okay.

17:57

Should be on in a second.

18:00

There you go.

18:01

All right.

18:01

We're gonna go in on record.

18:04

Okay.

18:07

All right, my apologies, everyone.

18:09

Uh we have some technical difficulties and we have a consultant on Zoom that's uh necessary for this meeting.

18:13

Uh so with that I'll start the meeting.

18:16

A meeting of planning and economic development committee was held today, Thursday, August 21, uh, twenty twenty-five at seven eighteen in the automatic chamber, and duly noticed in two places, including the city's website in a quarter in accordance with the requirements of RSA ninety-one eight two.

18:31

Well, the Kirk uh Clerk, please call the role.

18:34

Alderman at large Mobile Moran Junior Chairman.

18:36

Here.

18:39

Alderman Dirty Thibault is here.

18:40

Alderman Ernest Jetty.

18:43

Alderman Tyler Govair, Vice Chair.

18:45

Here.

18:46

Um we also have with us in attendance today, Sam Durfee Planning Manager.

18:50

Um we have planning director, uh Matt Sullivan.

18:53

We also have Alderman Chris Thibodeau and all the woman at large Rosana Kelly.

18:57

Um four we need four.

19:01

Thank you.

19:02

Um someone from your department could email Alderman Jetty the new link.

19:07

I do recall he emailed that he would want to join these meetings while on vacation.

19:11

Um just so we have the option if he does click in if he's listening that we're running late.

19:16

Um also with that, uh I'll ask for any public comment about uh what's going to be discussed tonight if anyone w like to speak about it.

19:25

Or um we could always wait to the end, uh, after you hear the presentation.

19:30

Anyone in the members for the public want to speak?

19:33

No.

19:33

All right, so uh then we will turn it over to um manager to discuss uh the recode inclusionary zoning.

19:41

Uh yes, thank you.

19:42

Um it feels like we were just here because we were.

19:46

So thank you very much for accommodating us for a second meeting on uh a far more interesting topic, I think, than our our last one.

19:53

Um so tonight we'll be talking about inclusionary zoning, uh, relative to affordable housing and how um affordable units are created uh within the private market uh the the private market development sphere.

20:05

Um so without further ado, um I would like to introduce and bring up uh Russ Preston, who is um really our head uh consultant on the on the land use code front.

20:15

Uh also with us via Zoom is Kyle Talense from RKG, who's our subconsultant who's doing a lot with um calibrating these inclusionary zoning standards to make sure that they are uh are buildable if and when this code gets adopted.

20:28

Um so first we will hear from Kyle who will present um some of their research and their numbers behind how we came to um some of the standards that we did uh in this proposed uh approach to inclusionary zoning, and then Russ will be able to present a little bit to give a little bit of context into how that would all be applied through you know the site plan process, if you will.

20:51

Great.

20:51

Uh yes, please join us and um Kyle uh and any uh others that are speaking who haven't been uh before the committees uh just reminder to repeat your name and address for the record or your business address uh to help our transcriber um with uh the transcription of the meeting.

21:10

Kyle, you can take it.

21:11

Yes, thank you so much.

21:13

Um I don't know, is someone sharing the presentation?

21:17

Uh Kyle, I believe you should have the ability to do so if that is your preference, though we do have it on our end as well.

21:23

I'm happy to do it.

21:24

Give me one second, please.

21:27

My apologies.

21:30

All right.

21:33

Uh uh view slideshow.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Affordable Housing█████████████████████████████████████████████74%
Zoning Variances██████10%
Procedural████6%
Community Engagement████6%
Pending Litigation2%
Environmental Protection2%
Summary of Proceedings

Nashua Planning & Economic Development Committee: Inclusionary Zoning Discussion (August 27, 2025)

The Planning and Economic Development Committee met on August 27, 2025, at 7:18 PM in the Aldermanic Chamber, with technical difficulties resolved, to discuss proposed inclusionary zoning (IZ) policies as part of the city's land use code recode. Consultants Russ Preston (Principal Group) and Kyle Talente (RKG Associates) presented financial feasibility analyses and policy recommendations. The committee offered feedback on key elements, including set-aside percentages, AMI targets, density bonuses, off-site units, and payment in lieu options, but took no formal votes.

Discussion Items

  • Presentation by Kyle Talente (RKG Associates):

    • Presented a financial feasibility model for inclusionary zoning, analyzing required density bonuses for different set-asides (10%, 15%, 20%) and AMI thresholds (80%, 70%, 60%, 50%) to achieve market-rate returns.
    • Recommended a 10-unit minimum threshold before IZ requirements apply, off-site units with a half-mile proximity requirement within city limits, development standards ensuring equal quality and size between affordable and market-rate units, annual compliance monitoring, and a payment in lieu option.
    • Proposed rental set-aside tiers: 10% (10–49 units, split 7.5% at 80% AMI, 2.5% at 60% AMI), 15% (50–100 units), and 20% (100+ units) in the downtown overlay; lower percentages (5%, 7.5%, 10%) for the rest of the city. For ownership, recommended 80% and 100% AMI tiers.
    • Compared two payment in lieu approaches: value gap (e.g., $125,000 per unit in downtown) vs. construction cost (e.g., $250,000+), noting the value gap is financially neutral for developers but insufficient to build a new unit, while construction cost provides full funding but significantly impacts developer returns.
  • Committee Questions and Feedback:

    • Alderman Clemens raised concerns about payment in lieu, arguing that if developers opt in for density bonuses, they should build affordable units on-site rather than cash out, and suggested requiring a special permit for opt-out with hardship justification. He also questioned off-site unit timing and requested concrete timelines.
    • Alderman Kelly asked about the value gap calculation (10-year hold period), annual updates to market conditions, and potential for off-site builds to concentrate affordable units; she expressed concern about payment in lieu paralleling sidewalk in-lieu failures.
    • Alderman Thibodeau inquired about unit size/quality parity, noting different business models and the need for flexibility in unit assignment over time.
    • Alderman Gobaya emphasized the importance of developer feedback and noted that the committee is still learning; he suggested future work sessions to review the full draft code.
    • Alderman Clemens and others noted that state law prevents mandatory IZ, so the policy is opt-in via density bonuses.
    • Chair Alderman Mora summarized feedback as needing regulation on opt-out criteria, off-site timing, and payment in lieu triggers, but Alderman Kelly cautioned that the committee is not unanimous and the feedback is not a formal directive.
  • Next Steps:

    • Consultants will incorporate feedback and return with updated proposals, possibly in September.
    • A virtual public office hours session is scheduled for September 10, 2025, from 5–7 PM via the Recode website.
    • The full recode document, including IZ, will be presented as one piece of legislation for first reading, with further committee work sessions anticipated.

Key Outcomes

  • No votes or formal decisions were made. The committee provided informal feedback to guide revisions to the inclusionary zoning proposal.
  • The consultants will refine the policy, including provisions for off-site unit timing, annual market adjustments, and special permit requirements for payment in lieu.
  • The next meeting on the recode is expected to address site standards and other remaining topics.

Meeting Transcript

Can you hear us? Hello, Kyle. Today I feel like you're like I I can't hear you, but there's a substantial echo. Kyle, what about now? Is it better? Yes, that's way better. Okay. Okay. Oh, should we hear me okay? Don't worry. Yeah, Kyle, we can hear you okay. It's pretty good. Okay. Should be on in a second. There you go. All right. We're gonna go in on record. Okay. All right, my apologies, everyone. Uh we have some technical difficulties and we have a consultant on Zoom that's uh necessary for this meeting. Uh so with that I'll start the meeting. A meeting of planning and economic development committee was held today, Thursday, August 21, uh, twenty twenty-five at seven eighteen in the automatic chamber, and duly noticed in two places, including the city's website in a quarter in accordance with the requirements of RSA ninety-one eight two. Well, the Kirk uh Clerk, please call the role. Alderman at large Mobile Moran Junior Chairman. Here. Alderman Dirty Thibault is here. Alderman Ernest Jetty. Alderman Tyler Govair, Vice Chair. Here. Um we also have with us in attendance today, Sam Durfee Planning Manager. Um we have planning director, uh Matt Sullivan. We also have Alderman Chris Thibodeau and all the woman at large Rosana Kelly. Um four we need four. Thank you. Um someone from your department could email Alderman Jetty the new link. I do recall he emailed that he would want to join these meetings while on vacation. Um just so we have the option if he does click in if he's listening that we're running late. Um also with that, uh I'll ask for any public comment about uh what's going to be discussed tonight if anyone w like to speak about it. Or um we could always wait to the end, uh, after you hear the presentation. Anyone in the members for the public want to speak? No. All right, so uh then we will turn it over to um manager to discuss uh the recode inclusionary zoning. Uh yes, thank you. Um it feels like we were just here because we were. So thank you very much for accommodating us for a second meeting on uh a far more interesting topic, I think, than our our last one. Um so tonight we'll be talking about inclusionary zoning, uh, relative to affordable housing and how um affordable units are created uh within the private market uh the the private market development sphere. Um so without further ado, um I would like to introduce and bring up uh Russ Preston, who is um really our head uh consultant on the on the land use code front. Uh also with us via Zoom is Kyle Talense from RKG, who's our subconsultant who's doing a lot with um calibrating these inclusionary zoning standards to make sure that they are uh are buildable if and when this code gets adopted. Um so first we will hear from Kyle who will present um some of their research and their numbers behind how we came to um some of the standards that we did uh in this proposed uh approach to inclusionary zoning, and then Russ will be able to present a little bit to give a little bit of context into how that would all be applied through you know the site plan process, if you will. Great.

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