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Joint Meeting of Budget Review and PEDC Committees - April 16, 2026

Board of Aldermen MeetingsThursday, April 16, 2026
BodyNashua, New Hampshire
SessionBoard of Aldermen Meetings
DateThursday, April 16, 2026
StatusFILED
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Transcript — Verbatim
3:56

I'd like to call the joint meeting of the budget review committee and the planning and economic development committee to order.

4:02

It's April fifteenth, twenty twenty-six, and it's seven eight oh seven PM.

4:30

I texted him.

4:34

I'm here.

4:35

Alderman at large, Alicia Greg.

4:37

Here.

4:37

Alderman Derrick Tebow is here.

4:39

Alderman Paula Johnson present.

4:41

Alderman Tim Senate Vice Chair of Budget.

4:43

Here.

4:52

Oh, I'm sorry.

4:53

I'm here.

4:54

I um gosh, my mind is.

4:56

I'm sorry.

4:57

I I've been very worried about my puppy.

5:00

Um, which is why I am home.

5:01

Um, good news she finally just ate something, so uh I am home alone.

5:07

Uh no one is here that can hear, and as I pointed out, I am remote because of a very sick dog.

5:14

Thank you.

5:15

And I apologize that you all have to do roll call.

5:18

Alderman John Sullivan.

5:21

Alderman at large, Amber Morgan.

5:23

Here.

5:24

Alderman at large Ben Clemens, PEDC vice chair.

5:30

Alderman Derek Tebow, PEDC Chairman, is here.

5:34

Um we only have two, so that's not enough for quorum.

5:38

So uh on PEDC on PEDC.

5:41

So um Alderman at large, Alicia Gregg filling in for um the last quorum piece of quorum.

5:49

We also have uh in attendance, Bobby Bagley, director of public health and community services, and uh director Tim Cummings, Director of Administrative Services.

5:58

Okay.

6:01

So the first item on the agenda is public comment.

6:04

I would ask that if we've already had that heard your comments in the public hearing that you don't repeat them.

6:10

If there's anybody that has anything that hasn't spoken or has anything to add, they could come up now.

6:18

I just want to uh only if you're gonna add something that's not already been covered.

6:23

Say here.

6:24

Yeah, all right.

6:26

Uh excuse me, I had a forgot my phone.

6:29

So, Diane, if you're listening, I took my eight o'clock pills.

6:32

I'm a good boy.

6:34

All right, we're good.

6:35

Okay.

6:38

You have a question, Mr.

6:39

Keating?

6:40

Yeah.

6:41

Another comment.

6:42

If you have an amplifying comment, I think so.

6:54

And you have three minutes.

6:55

All right.

6:56

Uh Bob Keating, uh, five Coven Woods Drive.

6:59

Uh I think in in hearing uh the totality of of the uh the comments, I I'm just somewhat stunned that we're reaching a point of speaking about you know spending four million dollars.

7:13

So that's great.

7:15

And uh that people may differ about how that gets distributed, but I just think that's that's a very significant step that we're making.

7:25

Uh just very, you know, kind of some I'm stunned at this point of thinking that we've reached that point.

7:31

So that's all I want to say, and uh I I trust the the continuing process to figure out a way that we maximize the use of that money to help the most vulnerable.

7:42

So that's it.

7:43

Thank you.

7:44

Yeah, the four million is probably a a best estimate guess at the moment until we have a design option, we have no idea exactly what the cost is going to be, and also the grants that we can apply for, it won't all be city money.

7:57

Yeah, no, I'm I'm just saying four million dollars, you know, because I don't want to duplicate the other comments but made, but four million dollars uh that would be used, you know, for directed to getting people uh housed and staying housed.

8:12

That's that's just great.

8:13

Okay.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Homelessness███████████████████████████████████████████43%
Fiscal Sustainability██████████████████████████26%
Environmental Protection███████████11%
Procedural███████7%
Procurement Processes██████6%
Public Engagement███3%
Public Health██2%
Public Works██2%
Summary of Proceedings

Joint Meeting of Budget Review Committee and Planning and Economic Development Committee - April 16, 2026

Note on date: The meeting minutes/transcript indicate the meeting occurred on April 15, 2026, but the provided metadata states April 16, 2026. This summary uses the metadata date as instructed.

This joint meeting of the Budget Review Committee (BRC) and the Planning and Economic Development Committee (PEDC) was held to consider two resolutions concerning the purchase of 14 Mulberry Street for a resource center, warming station, and transitional housing. The meeting included public comments, extensive discussion on funding and due diligence, and votes on both resolutions.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Bob Keating (5 Coven Woods Drive) expressed support for the approximately $4 million project, stating he was "stunned" that the city had reached this point and trusted the process to maximize help for the most vulnerable.
  • Matt Sullivan (Community Development Director) clarified that the $1.2 million in congressionally directed spending (CDS) through HUD is likely unavailable for this project because signing a purchase and sale agreement constitutes a "choice-limiting action" before the required environmental review, disqualifying the project from those funds. He noted that HUD's environmental review process is specific and time-consuming, and the CDS process has a 6–9 month runway.

Discussion Items

  • Support for the purchase (R26-019): PEDC members (Alderman Clee, Tebow, Morgan, and fill-in Gregg) spoke in favor, emphasizing that the project was long-planned (on the Capital Plan since at least 2024) and necessary due to dangerous conditions at homeless encampments. They acknowledged the property is not perfect but argued that waiting for perfection has delayed action. They expressed trust in Director Bagley and staff that the property can meet immediate needs and serve as a first step.
  • Concerns about bonding (R26-020): Several committee members questioned the use of bonds for $900,000, noting it is a relatively small amount. CFO Don Enright and Director Tim Cummings explained that using cash reserves late in the fiscal year would be imprudent, and bonding preserves capacity for larger projects. Cummings added that the city's current debt sales are well under the $25 million limit, but this project may push other capital projects (e.g., DPW garage, fire station, library) to later years.
  • Potential loss of federal funds: Director Sullivan stated that the $1.2 million CDS cannot be used for this project even if split into phases, as HUD views the entire project as one. A hypothetical restart (e.g., walking away and reacquiring later) might allow use of those funds, but that is not feasible now.
  • Planning Board input: Director Sullivan reported that the Planning Board gave an unfavorable recommendation (2-3 vote) on the property due to accelerated timeline and lack of due diligence (e.g., no environmental studies). However, the board understood the city's need and acknowledged the recommendation is advisory. Members of the committee (Alderman Morgan, Clee) clarified that the Planning Board typically reviews fully developed plans and that their concerns were technical, not substantive opposition to the project.
  • Alderman Johnson's position: He expressed concerns about lack of inspection for an old building (asbestos, foundation cracks) and opposed bonding for a small amount, preferring cash or waiting for a larger bond. He indicated he would not vote for the bond but might support the project later once design and costs are clearer.

Key Outcomes

  • R26-019 (Purchase authorization): Approved by PEDC on a roll call vote of 4-0 (Alderman Clee, Tebow, Morgan, Gregg all yes). The resolution authorizes the purchase of 14 Mulberry Street and recommends final passage to the Board of Aldermen.
  • R26-020 (Bond authorization up to $900,000): Approved by BRC on a voice vote (with audible opposition). The motion to recommend final passage carried. The bond will fund purchase, design, pre-renovation work, and renovations of the resource center. At least one member (Alderman Johnson) voted against the motion.
  • Adjournment: The meeting adjourned at 9:08 PM by roll call vote of 9-1 (Alderman Senate opposed? The roll call shows all yes except one? Actually the transcript says "Alderman Tim Senate Vice Chair No C" – likely a transcription error. The final tally was 9-1 in favor of adjournment).

Meeting Transcript

I'd like to call the joint meeting of the budget review committee and the planning and economic development committee to order. It's April fifteenth, twenty twenty-six, and it's seven eight oh seven PM. I texted him. I'm here. Alderman at large, Alicia Greg. Here. Alderman Derrick Tebow is here. Alderman Paula Johnson present. Alderman Tim Senate Vice Chair of Budget. Here. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm here. I um gosh, my mind is. I'm sorry. I I've been very worried about my puppy. Um, which is why I am home. Um, good news she finally just ate something, so uh I am home alone. Uh no one is here that can hear, and as I pointed out, I am remote because of a very sick dog. Thank you. And I apologize that you all have to do roll call. Alderman John Sullivan. Alderman at large, Amber Morgan. Here. Alderman at large Ben Clemens, PEDC vice chair. Alderman Derek Tebow, PEDC Chairman, is here. Um we only have two, so that's not enough for quorum. So uh on PEDC on PEDC. So um Alderman at large, Alicia Gregg filling in for um the last quorum piece of quorum. We also have uh in attendance, Bobby Bagley, director of public health and community services, and uh director Tim Cummings, Director of Administrative Services. Okay. So the first item on the agenda is public comment. I would ask that if we've already had that heard your comments in the public hearing that you don't repeat them. If there's anybody that has anything that hasn't spoken or has anything to add, they could come up now. I just want to uh only if you're gonna add something that's not already been covered. Say here. Yeah, all right. Uh excuse me, I had a forgot my phone. So, Diane, if you're listening, I took my eight o'clock pills. I'm a good boy. All right, we're good. Okay. You have a question, Mr. Keating? Yeah. Another comment. If you have an amplifying comment, I think so. And you have three minutes. All right. Uh Bob Keating, uh, five Coven Woods Drive. Uh I think in in hearing uh the totality of of the uh the comments, I I'm just somewhat stunned that we're reaching a point of speaking about you know spending four million dollars.

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