I motion to approve the minutes of the Board of Public Works meeting of April twenty first, twenty twenty-six.

All those in favor of the motion say aye.

Aye.

Motion passes.

Yeah, yeah.

Just uh sit right there.

There's a mic.

It helps it helps record.

No, absolutely.

I get it.

Thank you.

Um, good afternoon, everybody.

My name is Patrick Como.

I'm a national resident of twenty years.

I live at eighteen Middle Dunstable Road currently.

Uh, been there for eleven to twelve years.

Give or take.

I actually bought the William Sisters House.

If anybody knows that, that's the eight daughters that the house is custom built for.

But um, I'm here today just to uh kind of give support to my neighborhood to all the residents that live on eighteen middle Dunstable Road.

Um, we actually really love the speed bumps that are there.

Uh it's been discussed that maybe you consider removing them.

Um I think on my side of the street alone is five families with two or more kids on the other side of the street.

There's four families with two or more kids.

Uh, we are in a school zone.

It's a walkway to the uh two bicentennial.

And uh, I don't think as though that would be the greatest.

Yesterday in the meeting, we went to the automatic chamber, one of the residents stood up and said, I used to deliver peep newspapers in on the street.

She goes, now I live on the street.

She goes, I was here before the speed bumps.

She goes, It was crazy.

So that was kind of cool to hear from the local newspaper lady who's now has children that go to the school.

Um we talked about maybe saving a seven thousand dollar line item for a budget.

I've been there for ten years.

Say seven grand, these speed bumps haven't been replaced.

Say they cost the town seven hundred dollars a year to have that speed bump.

Uh I think that's a small price to pay for a life of a child that possibly gets hit by a speeding car on that road.

Um I have in my 30s, I drove plow trucks for drum hill construction, so not little ones, big ones.

And I didn't drive over speed bumps, but I know how to control my truck to make sure that we go over the speed bump correctly.

So the whole damage on the truck to the DPW truck, uh, I don't buy it.

I feel like if you're a responsible snowplow driver, you know how to do it.

So if there is damage to the snowplow truck during said speed hump issue, um again, I would take that cost and I would divide it and say, is this worth the life of the child as we speed through the neighborhood and possibly pick off a couple kids?

I don't think it is.

It's really all I have to say about it.

Um I think it's easy to make the DPW jobs easier.

No offense, guys.

I would love to plow everything that has no islands in a parking lot, okay?

But sometimes we have to make exceptions.

And uh, I think the speed bumps on the 18 Middle Dunstable Road would be the exception for the case.

They've been there, let's not remove them.

And uh everybody wants to do less work and get paid more.

So maybe we're gonna do a little more work and hopefully get paid the same.

But you know, we don't we don't need to remove speed bumps.

All right.

Uh thank you for listening to me.

I appreciate it.

Uh I wish you guys a great evening.

Thank you.

Uh does any member of any other member of the public wish to address the board?

Hi, my name is David Tiller, and I live at 15 Middle Dunstable road.

The only thing I have to add to what Patrick said was that we do want our uh speed bumps there or humps there for all the reasons that Patrick said.

The only other thing would be that there is a curve on there.

People still speed, even though there's four speed bumps there.

There's two at one end and two at the other, and they speed in between.

And the curve where they speed at between those humps is a dangerous curve.

You can't see it, it's a blind curve.

So maybe evenly spaced or one moved strategically up near that curve right there would be beneficial also in slowing down the traffic that's going through there.

Thank you very much.

All right, anyone else?

Mayor, I think we might want to engineer Hudson and I spoke about this earlier.

I don't know if you want to after public.

Yeah, it is.

Wait, okay.

We can talk about it.

Oh, I guess it's right, it's right here.

It's right here.

Uh, which is item five.

Uh people know we can know what happened here from uh in here.

Uh thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Uh Dan Hudson City Engineer.

So we have this uh referral from uh Board of Alderman.

I'll just say to start that this wasn't uh something that uh public works introduced this the uh alderman sponsoring legislation received a complaint from a resident uh requesting that the speed humps be removed on Middle Dunstable.

Um to my knowledge, Middle Dunstable may be the only road that has such speed humps.

The legislation to introduce that goes back probably more than 20 years, as far as we can tell.

Um there are some other locations where there's somebody's crosswalks and that sort of thing, but this is not a uh uh a traffic calm treatment that we see widely throughout Nashua, certainly from a public works perspective, something that we don't want to be implementing throughout Nashua.

It does complicate maintenance, but again, this wasn't uh it wasn't something that we brought forward, although we um we didn't object to it being being brought forward uh for public discussion.

We didn't know if the conditions had changed since the original implementation uh such that it would warrant uh removal and that sort of thing.

And we are um gonna be paving that street this year, so that it seemed timely to bring this up to discuss again so that we would know if should if should we put these back or not put these back when we pave.

Um just in general, again, I kind of said public works really isn't in favor of speed humps.

Uh, but but having said that, um, do respect all the input from the neighborhood.

Um we uh so we we also don't take objection to this not moving forward that the the removal of them, I guess I would say there is a systemic citywide issue right now with speeding.

I think everybody's heard about that.

Um it's kind of a societal issue more more than just uh uh Middle Dunstable Road.

Um, and that's something that we need to get our arms around and try to figure out what to do.

know again I kind of said public works really isn't in favor of speed humps uh but but having said that um do respect all the input from the neighborhood um we uh so we we also don't take objection to this not moving forward the the the removal of them I guess I would say there is a systemic citywide issue right now with speeding I think everybody's heard about that um it's kind of a societal issue more more than just uh uh middle duncil road um and that's something that we need to get our arms around and try to figure out what to do we've done we've we've lowered speed limits we've done a bunch of things and uh a lot of things seem to have little little or no effect on that condition so I don't view that condition as being any different on middle dunstable than is anywhere else so having said that that's something that's something that we need to go um probably do more study of how we can better control speed in areas where we have uh problems uh like has been expressed exist on Middle Dunstable um so again we're not looking we're not looking to move this removal forward or not uh I think it will I was there last night at the discussion at uh at the infrastructure meeting and um heard all the public testimony and there's you know I could probably argue this thing either way maybe but uh but uh we do understand this one's been there a long time and for that reason we're not we're not taking a strong position on removal in this case uh but we certainly don't want to see these proliferate we'd like to try other things to try to address some of those issues that have been raised so with that I'd uh turn it back over and be happy to address any questions or anything thank you Mr.

Mayor as chairman of the infrastructure committee there seems to be uh from neighbors on the street overwhelming support for the speed bumps I can understand that if I had speed uh speed bumps on my street I think I probably would grow to love them too but we don't really do that we solved a problem perhaps like engineer uh has said over like 30 years ago maybe that was the trend at that particular time not necessarily would be now there's other things we could have turned the street into a one way could turn it into a dead end we could have done a lot of different things but they went with at that particular time with the speed bumps the people uh have grown to love them and uh I can see they're upset in order to see them potentially terminated but I'll bring you this looking at it they've been there for so long they have adapted the speed bumps have become part of that particular street and we're only talking one street in the whole city but they have been endeared by the residents of that one street.

So therefore I know what end hill the die on you know and looking at this particular problem I don't see it really worth the city's while to change it.

Yes it will cause some issues it's not the way that a modern city would try to solve that particular problem but it's been done and so I I think I represent the committee in Alderman Dowd you can say so too but uh I think we have the feeling to leave the status quo it's only the one street and I think we could live with that and I think that would be the best cause and would be uh infrastructure's recommendation to this board well it's a this it's whose decision is this it's a lay alderman right you're looking for a recommendation from us that's correct yeah okay alderman down yeah uh and and I agree with the fact that the enough of the residents on the street um because there are a lot of children on the street want the speed bumps to slow things down is it the preferred way we do things today probably not but I my recommendation at Kessler Farms where I live we have two types of speed bumps we have the ones coming up the hill that are real bumps which also get hit by the plows all the time and and uh people tend to go over them slowly and then speed up to the next one which is kind of crazy but we have other speed bumps at and the condo association that are that are flatter and and they uh they hang up well they they don't get plows don't damage them and people do slow down to go over them and for some reason they don't seem to speed up after they go over it so uh I don't know if it's the drivers or the that type of speed bump but I would consider doing that type of speed bump rather than the the the violent ones because that also slows the fire trucks down on response time so that would be my consideration but as if the people want them I'm all for it.

All right um Commissioner Greg.

Um the I think I'm I'm for slowing down traffic in that in in a lot of different areas in in Nashua uh because we do have that epidemic right now in terms of speed what I would love to also do in conjunction with this is to have a solution that would be a little bit more modern it doesn't necessarily say like that because this is one area in all of Nashua that speed bumps show up and I know that this is probably not the norm but if you've got people speeding down a road and all of a sudden randomly in one place in Nashua that they're not expecting it you could get somebody to hit a speed bump at 50 miles an hour and still potentially cause some problems.

Now, if they're seeing it, I don't think that's a problem.

But I to your point, it's very weird.

It's it's not it's not a normal approach in terms of how we do it.

So I would love a study to be done in this area to figure out how we can actually slow down the traffic as a supplement.

Um, but but to the point of everybody here, I don't think that we should take the speed bumps away until we actually have a full solution for what should happen.

And that's that's my recommendation.

Yeah, Mr.

May, Mr.

Mayor, just further on that.

That was that was kind of our sense too.

I mean, uh there was some discussion uh at last night's meeting about the spacing of the speed humps, and perhaps uh then some of them should get shifted.

So I think the ordinance just says that speed humps will be used as a traffic commanding measure on that street.

So I do think as we before we pay, we'll look in to see if some should be adjusted.

There's one that was right in the middle of somebody's driveway, and that's typically not what you would do.

So I would expect uh, you know, upon rejection of this rescinding of this ordinance, we would proceed with that making some minor adjustments again, building them to the current standard, which is a flatter uh a standard.

Um, but but there is a need, and we do we would welcome the opportunity to do a study digging into what other options there are because it is something that's gonna be a growing area of need, I think.

Unfortunately, Alderman O'Brien.

Yeah, I agree with uh Engineer Hudson.

I will just ask this committee that uh we move.

I don't know where on the schedule the paving is going to be done this season.

And uh I just you know, so you don't get handcuffed.

I think obviously you gotta do it anyways, but move it towards the end of the program till the study comes out.

Sure, and then when uh it's ready and the study is done.

I think the stakeholders would like to be part and to hear what the committee recommendation would be before anything and see if we can get it done before the uh snow comes as far as plow.

I mean, not plowing but uh street repair within season.

Okay, all right.

Well, is there a motion on this commissioner Gregg kind of made a motion, but not quite well what would the motion be?

In this case that we do a study.

We can we I guess that we uh recommend that nothing be done now, but we look at the the street to see if there's any alternative to this.

Okay, yeah.

I motion that we recog uh I motion that we recommend because this is your okay.

I motion that we recommend that uh we do nothing now but that we um do a study, a full study on the street to see if there are any alternatives.

All right, any discussion on that?

No, I I just want to weigh in.

I agree we shouldn't remove the speed bumps now.

I mean, I'm a parent, I know what it's like to live on a I lived on Manchester Street, very busy street.

There's no speed bumps there except up by uh one school.

Um and I think that we should make a real effort.

I know we always make an effort, but to make sure that all the stakeholders feel that they get included in the meetings so that they could hear so that we don't give them a solution that they feel is really crap.

We want you to have a voice.

All right, so um would that be part of the motion too?

Uh yeah, please leave out the crap.

Might as well.

Crap, we'll delete crap from the record.

I know so uh anyway.

You've heard the motion.

Uh, all those in favor of the motion say aye.

Aye.

Opposed.

Motion passes.

Uh, and do you understand our recommendation?

I think uh next we're on to the parks.

Um item A.

Uh Commissioner Lemon.

I move to award the contract to reconstruct the Greley Park waiting pool to Weston and Sampson in the amount of 298,200.

Funding will be through Department 177 parks fund bond activity, Greeley Park improvements.

Good afternoon, everyone.

Brian Conant and the superintendent of the parks department.

Um this is to replace the heavily used waiting pool up at Greeley Park.

Um, last year we actually had to shut it down because it's not holding water anymore.

Um, so currently, right now it is offline and unusable.

Um we went out to bid on this, um constructing something very similar in size, um depth, um, dimensions.

We did go out to bid with this.

We received two close bids.

Um I'm recommending that we would go with Weston and Sampson.

Um they've done um multimillion dollar pool projects um are a massive company.

The other company is local from Nashua, but they've only done residential pool installs and have not done the same uh scope of projects.

I'd be happy to answer any questions on this if there are any Brian.

How much do you think?

How many children do you think use this?

I mean, I remember I know it's a heavily used feature, so is the longer it's out of commission, the worse it is, right?

Yes.

I would I would have to say it's probably between 40 to 100 different people that go there when it's open and being used daily.

Yeah.

So not all at the same time, but throughout the the portion of the day that the park is open.

I would say that's about right.

And if we approve this, how long before we can get the waiting pool back in action?

I I would be I don't necessarily know that the waiting pool will be up and functioning for this season, but it would definitely be up and functioning for next year.

Okay.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

Commissioner Greg.

Have we done any improvements between 1950 and now to it?

Like in terms of updating it or keeping it just basic maintenance needs.

No real heavy upgrades.

We've tried to repatch it and redo the concrete in the waiting pool, and we repaint it every year, but you know, just regular maintenance.

Okay.

Thank you.

Aldman O'Brien.

Thank you.

Uh this money, 2909,000, and some change there.

Uh is that just for the waiting pool?

Is this going to include uh a filtration system or anything?

So this is gonna include the waiting pool, the construction, the concrete decking going around the pool, the plumbing that consists with the mechanics to make the pool work and the shed that will house all of that as well, Alderman O'Brien.

Okay, so there is a filtration system.

Yes, that was in the specs.

All right, all those in favor of the motion say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Opposed, thank you.

Motion passes.

Uh wastewater.

Uh item A, Commissioner Greg.

I motion to approve the user warrants as presented.

All those in favor of the motion say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Motion passes.

Item B, Commissioner Lemon.

I move to approve the three-year contract in an amount not to exceed three million eight hundred and ninety-four thousand four hundred and forty-five dollars with waste management of New Hampshire Incorporated of Rochester, New Hampshire, for management of biosolids at the wastewater treatment facility.

Funding will be through Department 169 wastewater fund, wastewater account classification 54 property services.

Mr.

Boucher, Dave Boucher, wastewater superintendent.

Uh this is to enter into that three-year contract uh with the company to manage our biosolids.

Uh biosolids is the the solids that we remove from wastewater and we treat it, we dry it.

Uh this company would take care of it after we treat it and uh manage it off site.

Uh we went out to bid and waste management was a little bitter.

This is a three-year contract which would start in FY27.

You happy to answer any questions.

I just also would like to add that we are looking at other opportunities for our biosolids, so and and hoping to incorporate it actually in our own landfill.

So we're hoping that this contract will not be for more than a year.

So we are looking at other alternatives.

Um and we should um note that Commissioner Shea has arrived and is now present.

And for his information, we're on item B under wastewater.

Um this is just for my own knowledge.

Is 8,500 wet tons?

Is that like average for a city the size of Nashua?

Is that lower than average?

No, that's been our average for the last several years.

Okay, it's usually 8,000 to 8500.

Okay.

Thank you.

All right.

The motion is to approve the uh now.

Uh Commissioner Speedy is also here, so um he should be recorded present.

We're on item B under wastewater.

All right, if there's no further discussion, uh the motion is to approve the contract.

Uh all those in favor of the motion say aye.

Aye.

Opposed.

Motion passes.

Uh next item is item C.

Commissioner Gregg.

I move to approve the contract with trusted maintenance solutions of Fremont, New Hampshire, and an amount not to exceed $32,812.50 for the installation of drop ceilings in five areas of the wastewater treatment facility.

Funding will be through Department 169 wastewater, fund wastewater account classification, 81 major capital outlay, improvements, supplies, and materials.

These drop ceilings would all be in our administrative building.

Parts of the building are extremely old.

We have old four areas that have old drop ceilings.

A lot of the parts are missing, the panels are missing.

We can't get them anymore.

We also have an office area.

It's fairly new office area for our electricians that has no ceiling, no drop ceiling.

It's all piping above.

So this would include that.

We put it out to bid, and this company was the low bidder on that.

We compared it with the recent drop ceiling job we had, so we we find this price to be reasonable.

I'd be happy to answer any questions.

Any questions, discussion?

All those in favor of the motion say aye.

Aye.

Opposed.

Motion passes.

Next we have item D.

Commissioner Speedia.

Move to approve the FY27 purchase of polymer from Polydyne of Riceboro, Georgia, in the amount of 650,000 pending approval FY27 budget.

Funding will be through Department 169 Wastewater Fund, Wastewater Account Classification 61 Supplies and Materials.

Dave Bouche, Wastewater Superintendent.

This is the product we use in our treatment process.

We use it to dry our sludge in different areas of the facility, different processes.

We have companies come in and do test of their polymer product to see which one works best with our product.

And this company has so far had the best product for us.

So and this is uh the price they offered this year, which is roughly two percent higher, which is according to the market.

This is a reasonable.

So we'd like to continue to use this company to provide us with polymer.

You have to answer any questions.

All those in favor of the motion say aye.

Aye.

Motion passes.

Thank you.

Uh next we have solid waste.

Uh item A, Commissioner Shea.

I move to approve a contract with charter contracting company, also known as Charter of Boston, Massachusetts, in the amount of 278,250 for the construction of set a 735 feet of landfill perimeter litter fence on the east side of the phase four landfill funding will be through Department 168 solid waste fund bond activity phase four landfill expansion.

Go ahead, Mr.

LeFleur.

Jeff LaFleur, Superintendent of Solid Waste.

So as you know, we're constructing our phase four landfill, and one of the conditions for us with uh new uh New Hampshire DES is to uh put this added uh litter fence in to help control any litter wind blown litter from our landfill heading towards that the properties on that side of the landfill.

All right, anyone.

All those in favor of the motion say aye.

Aye opposed motion passes.

Uh next item B, uh Commissioner Lennon.

I move to approve change order number five with charter contracting company LLC of Boston Mass in the amount of 98,786 and 28 cents for additional costs related to the phase four stage one landfill construction project.

Funding will be through Department 168 solid waste fund bond activity phase four construction.

Jeff LaFleur, Superintendent Solid Waste.

Um, I'm happy to say that this should be our last change order for phase four as we're almost ready to open it.

Um these these um costs right here are directly related to some uh delays that we had with DES going over some of these permits and actually working with the litter fence, one of the waiver product uh contracts.

So hopefully that or I'm 99% sure this is the last con uh change order.

So I won't have to speak about it again.

Uh coincidentally, the last motion is part of the phase four, so it's a different contractor though.

All right, then any questions or comments.

All those in favor of the motion say aye.

Aye opposed.

Motion passes.

Item C, Commissioner Gregg.

A motion to approve change order number one for 58,586 dollars and 32 cents with electrical installations in Meredith, New Hampshire for installing and programming a new SCADA telemetry panel on the phase four landfill uh leashate pump house, um, leech A pump house.

The contract with electrical installations will be revised to the not to exceed amount of sixty-nine thousand six hundred and thirty-eight dollars and seventy-seven cents.

Funding will be through Department 168 solid waste fund bond activity phase four landfill.

Jeff LaFleur, Superintendent of Solid Race.

So uh electrical installations is our company that comes out and does all our SCADA work.

We can uh see everything that's going on with the landfill through the computer systems.

This uh 58,000 is putting a new um readout on the new pump house for the phase four landfill, so we'll be able to read everything from the computer.

If there's any alarms, we'll get alarms and emails and texts saying that there's issues going on at the landfill.

So uh we're requesting this money with electrical installations to uh take care of all this for us.

All those in favor of the motion, please say aye.

Aye.

Motion passes.

Thank you.

Uh now we have the engineering department.

Uh item A.

Uh Commissioner Speedia.

Motion to approve the sewer service permits and fees it submitted.

All those in favor of the motion say aye.

Aye.

Motion passes.

Item B, Commissioner Shea.

I move to approve the poll license petitions as listed in the staff report.

All those in favor of the motion say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Motion passes.

Item C, Commissioner Lemon.

I move to approve change order number seven to the 2025 sewer replacement project, contract one with CRISP contracting of Nashua, New Hampshire, any amount not to exceed a million dollars.

Funding will be through 169 wastewater fund, bond, activity sewer rehab.

Uh good afternoon again, Dan Hudson, City Engineer.

So we contracted uh Chris contracting a local contractor back in 2025 for sewer replacement work.

Um we've we've had a number of change orders to that contract, uh, a number of them being being no cost change orders, but we did add a million dollars in uh previously, and we're seeking to do that um again.

Um Crisp is uh basically we have some defined work, but also it's stuff that we don't anticipate, but that ends up needing to be done.

We find uh a sewer sewer issue that we need to be able to quickly send somebody out there under contract with or negotiated prices for materials and things.

Go out there and uh begin work immediately.

And so it's been a good relationship.

We're looking to extend that.

Um this uh the previous million dollars we had changed or ordered uh we have some plan work um that will exhaust that early this summer.

We're hoping this uh additional million dollars will carry us through uh this the rest of the summer.

So happy to address any questions.

Commissioner Gregg.

Um can we just recap uh because the original contract was 810,000 uh for obviously an intended amount of work.

Can we just recap why uh we're we're where we are now with the 2.8 million?

Sure, it's just uh well well purchasing policy allows us when we bid out a contract and they establish rates and things for things that we can continue to amend and change all of those contracts for up to a period of about three years as long as the material uh the unit prices and stuff don't exceed ranges that are in the purchasing policy, um you know, to the order of 10% increase or something.

So when we when we go through the effort of bidding out a project and then we bring a contractor on board, if things are working well and they're holding their pricing, we we we do look to extend those contracts uh as we can um just to streamline the effort of contracting and uh and uh continue that good working relationship, so to speak.

So that's the intent of it.

I mean this could these contracts are kind of this one, especially is kind of an on-call basis, so you don't know exactly what you're gonna get into, which is some of the nature of the no-cost change orders where uh you have something that wasn't in there, so we do a little figure out what's a reasonable price is and we take some money out of this line and put it in that line.

So it's kind of shifting funds in there.

Um this this, unlike a lot of projects is not uh a well-defined project at times, but it's it is something that we need somebody on call so we can make those immediate responses and deal with things.

So this this is not as clean as some straight up bid design build projects, but uh but I mean not in that order, design bid build projects.

Uh so we asked for uh flexibility in that regard, but it but it crisp has done a good job, continues to good do a good job for us, and we look to extend his contract.

Thank you.

All right, all those in favor of the motion say aye.

Aye.

Opposed, uh motion passes.

Item D.

Um Commissioner uh Greg.

Or who did I call on last I forget?

I can do it.

What I move to approve the award of the construction contract for the 2026 pavement preservation program to seal coating inc, DBA indice of brain tree mass in an amount of eight hundred and ninety-four thousand eight hundred and seventy-five funding through departments 160 admin engines, bond, activities, paving.

So uh in after we pave a road, we want to preserve the road uh such that we we maintain the the the value of the money that's been expended so roads don't prematurely degrade.

So we've for years we've been doing a pretty robust uh crack ceiling program, pavement preservation program.

We're looking to continue that again this year.

Um earlier this year we did bid out pavement contracts, and uh we have uh sunshine paving under contract or out there actively paving.

Um but we it was time.

We had extended innovative indices contract uh a number of years, but it's time was time again to bid that out.

So we bid that out secondary to the paving and uh um and so now we're looking toward that work and be happy to address any questions.

Anyone all those in favor of the motion say aye.

Aye aye.

Motion passes.

Next item E, Commissioner Speedia.

Move to approve the change order number one to the 2026 paving program contract two with Sunshine Paving Corporation of Hudson, New Hampshire in an amount not to exceed 350,000.

Funding will be through 161 streets and weight 169 wastewater fund, bond activities, sidewalk construction and storm water.

So this I mentioned paving, so sunshine paving is under contract for paving this year.

Um we're looking to uh change order their contract to add in some sidewalk work um and some drainage work in their base paving project.

They do have those elements of work, so this is not something that's outside the the scope of what they're doing.

But um, in this specific case, we're we're looking to do some work on Ledge Street.

Um we had applied for and received some grant funding to add some uh rectangular rapid flashing beacons at a couple of the crosswalks right there next to Lead Street School to help improve the safety, which will was recommended uh one of the things recommended in previous safe roots of school studies and that sort of thing.

So we're looking to implement those, but versus just going putting those in um uh by themselves.

We really think it makes sense to reconstruct some of the sidewalk in that area, uh do some bump out treatments, um, things like that.

Um in addition, I mentioned some drainage work, uh, a little bit of drainage work will be needed due to that sidewalk work, but there's uh there's a drainage issue in and around the playground there um adjacent to school in memorial park that needs to be addressed.

So um we'll be doing some uh some infiltration uh pipe and basin and some work like that, just try to address that issue.

Um so the funding for this is not coming from paving, it's coming from um some sidewalk funds uh that were available as well as drainage funds.

So this isn't I don't want to insinuate that paving money is being used here to do drainage work.

That's not the case because this is a more significant effort, which warrants uh that separate funding for that work.

So I'd be happy to adjust any questions.

Commissioner Shay.

Um so is that is this grant funding um that that's covering this, or is it part from sidewalk funding and part grant funding?

No, sorry, I can I kind of can confuse the issue by uh the the grant funding was just for the rectangle of rapid flashing beacon equipment.

Um so we were we were uh scheduled to receive that and we were planning to self-install it, but we decided some other work should really should be done, and we're so busy that it really didn't make sense, or wasn't really feasible for us to do this ourselves.

Um so we're bringing in this this contract to do it, especially given that this is right out of school.

We want to do this between the period of time when school's out when school's back in.

So we have a tight time frame, quite a bit of work to do.

Decided it made sense to change order this in and complete that construction via a change order.

And um follow up with R.

And um is this in tandem uh with some improvements to the playground facilities at that school?

So I know there are some plans and and it's it's still I'm not um fully ingrained in what those are.

I know there's been some talk about some playground money uh and there's been discussion about it, uh playground workout back potentially, or even some playground equipment equipment replacement in this area.

Um everybody recognizes really can't do that when you got a pond of water there.

So, like we're trying to solve the water issue that will then enable some of that other work, but that other work is not included in this contract.

Doing kind of the preparatory work to make that uh a worthwhile investment, and it's much needed.

Um so that's good.

Thank you.

Correct, yep, thank you.

All right, all those in favor of the motion say aye.

Aye.

Motion passes.

Item F, Commissioner Shea.

Um I move to approve uh the purchase of 12 UNIX traffic signal controllers from Ocean State Signal of Smithfield, Rhode Island in the amount not to exceed $35,400.

Funding will be through Department 160 admin engineering fund trust, uh the Amherst Street traffic mitigation uh count 71 equipment.

So this contract is kind of seizing upon an opportunity.

Uh we we re received uh reach out from our vendor that there's an opportunity to buy some traffic signal controllers at about a 40% discount to uh to uh the normal pricing.

Um, and with the idea being that they would that these would be upgrades, uh, these would be the latest model traffic controllers, just like your computer in your house.

There's a computer in the street in the cabinet that runs the signal system, and those that you want to be up to date uh with those just like you do for your home computer.

So the plan here is uh we buy 12 uh new signal controllers, the ones that are in the street will we'll salvage and use as uh as back line or backups, you know.

We have a lightning strike or something that takes them out, we'll have those available to us as well as replace some of the other uh legacy equipment that we may have out there.

Um so it's it's just an opportunity to uh to to uh improve the equipment.

Um in this case, um the timing is good because we're wrapping up a fiber optic installation where we extended the fiber all the way out Amherst Street, and we're in the process of tying in the signals into that fiber system previously.

The interconnection communications was done on old copper pair wire, so that was pretty unreliable.

And um now we're really we're modernizing that and updating that, and so having new traffic signal controllers along that corridor will be uh beneficial.

We'll be able to really um realize the full benefit uh of that uh communication system.

This um these controllers, you know, they're the newest model, and they enable all the various capabilities you would want to do the connected vehicle communications and various things, and we're not fully do we doing all those right now, but these are future-proofed in that sense where we'll be able to venture in a lot of those areas should the should should the opportunity arise at a later date.

Be happy to address any questions.

Alderman O'Brien.

Yeah, um, from my foreign position, I have to ask it will be compatible with the fire department.

It it will be, and that's a great question.

It's one of the one of the reasons we're doing this as well, because right now we have some legacy uh controllers, but they're not the same brand, and so we have an issue uh in the street.

We grab a controller off the shelf, put it in, but it's not it's not a version that works well with the applied information emergency fire preemption system.

So for a period of time we may have a location that's down.

So this will enable us to have equipment that we know works with that system and be able to uh rapidly deploy that um and not lose that functionality while we're getting that controller replaced or or uh repaired.

Commissioner Shea.

Um Alderman O'Brien asked my question, and I I should have anticipated that all right.

Uh anyone else?

Commissioner Greg.

Um in getting these 12 UNIX traffic Unix UNEX traffic signal controllers.

Is is it um can you set up a system where it actually mixes with other types of signal uh like traffic signal controllers?

Because I know that we're trying to rush to get well, not rush, but get 40% off of these, and it makes sense.

But like if you're looking at the holistic approach to what we're gonna do to modernize it, does it doesn't mix well with other systems?

It's a great question.

I mean, this is a sole source purchase, I should mention that, but the reasoning is we've standardized on a brand.

Um it used to be Siemens, but UNIX uh yeah, purchase and whatever.

But so we have the same type throughout the city, and that's not that's not unique.

Communities kind of standardized around a system for ease of maintenance and replaceability, like we were just talking about things like that.

So we we are standardized on this brand and model, although these modern traffic signal controllers, the communication systems get better, and they're more interoperable with uh different types of equipment and things.

So as we move forward, it's maybe less important what's what signal control you have, but but these this will match with uh the stuff we currently have.

Great, thank you.

All those in favor of the motion say aye.

Aye.

Motion passes.

Uh item G, Commissioner Lemon.

I move to approve amendment number three to the engineering services agreement for the East Hollis and Bridge Street intersection project with McFarland Johnson Incorporated, Concord, New Hampshire, and an amount not to exceed $50,000.

Funding will be through Departments 160 admin engineering funds grant activity East Hollis and Bridge Street intersection improvements.

So we're we're working our way through finalizing the the uh East Halls Bridge Street Intersection Project, also known kind of as the Gateway Project previously.

Uh or some may still know it as that.

But uh we're finalizing the design of that project.

Um we've gone through uh a number of iterations, some of the uh conditions require us to kind of change the design, that sort of thing.

Uh for um so working with a consultant, um uh we need to amend their contract, add a little more funding in to address some of that uh in order to be able to finish the project.

We are tracking towards uh advertising this project early next year uh for construction.

Um actually it's before that.

We're trying to advertise the end of this summer, I should say, um pending being able to secure all the right-of-way easements and things.

I was just out in the field before I came here today uh speaking with an abutter about an impact on their property, temporary impact.

Um working with the play-through process again.

We we're full transparency, we're still negotiating with uh this company on what the easement value, I mean this uh amended value will be, uh, but we set an upside limit.

It will be less than that as we finalize that discussion uh and negotiation um before bringing it to finance.

But I just did just want to mention that given that this board meets once a month.

We didn't we want to keep moving and and uh um while we're finishing those negotiations, um, and I'd be happy to address any questions.

All those in favor of the motion say aye.

Aye.

Motion passes.

Item H is a an informational item.

Uh so if there are no questions regarding that, we'll go on to administration.

Um item A under administration has to do with the relocation of a sculpture uh from Lovewell Pond to Mindfalls Park.

Uh Director Foto and I were talking about this, and thinking we should ask the Mindfall Advisory Committee what they think of this.

Do they want the sculpture?

Uh would they like it to be in Mindfalls?

So if the board agrees, um we would hold this and just wait for uh an opinion.

So Commissioner Greg has made a motion to table this item.

All those in favor?

Yes, may I just add one thing?

Um would the board be if if mine falls advisory committee does want this sculpture, would you be in favor of the it being moved to mine false?

Yeah, yes.

I agree.

Okay, so could we could we do that instead?

Because I think there's a time there might be a timing issue.

So the issue would become uh it's approved if the minefalls advisory committee.

I think Commissioner Shay called Commissioner Shay.

Yeah, if I could speak on it.

Um so the request is I like it where it is.

Um but but I if if it's if it's the interest of of the sculpture symposium, I have no objection.

I do appreciate it where it is, just because as you walk through that that path, it's almost like it's climbing out of the water, and the tie-in is really nice.

So as Mindfalls Advisory Committee considers this, um that wherever it might be, um it would be nice to have it close to the water so that it has a similar effect.

And and I'm sure Sculptor Symposium will have some insights on that.

Um but uh personally I have no objection to where it is.

I think it's um it's really cool to happen upon as you're walking through that area.

Um but if sculpture symposium is um requesting it, then I I have no objection.

Um I just wanted to give it a question.

Well, let me let me uh so I agree.

I think it's a great location, but um with this the way this has come up is the conservation commission, which previously approved this location now thinks it's too close to the water.

So they would like to move it, and the sculptor some the sculpture um uh the sculpture people are kind of going along with it.

But the um uh but that so that's how it's arisen.

The sculpture symposium is not I think they're probably neutral on this, right?

Or maybe I don't want to speak for the sculpture symposium, but I think if if Gail were here, she would tell you that they would like to leave it at level one.

So we don't we don't have to approve them, we don't have to approve the moving.

So we don't we don't have to approve them we don't have to approve the moving I I am curious as to the nature of how this might interfere with the wetland buffer in a setting where it's it's just mulch and it is it is a cement slab um in in place uh with the sculpture um on top of it um and I don't know that replacing that cement slab with soil is going to be any sort of great restoration to the wetland buckets um uh if there's some sentiment uh within the sculpture symposium that they enjoy this location and I enjoy this location um the the kids have climbed all over it and the way that it is set um is in a place that um doesn't have um uh all that much sculpture and it is also a point of interest that attracts you to that area from the um the the skating rink and sort of to see that from the drive um as you're going to to public skate or to a game or something like that brings you over to that space um and then when you get down there you look to the left and you see a path that's kind of hidden that you wouldn't know about otherwise and you see the beautiful boardwalk um that that goes along the edge of um is that a retention pond or or whatever you would call that space the the water there love well it's a it's just a natural pond yeah and and as people come in to to do what what's approved there not non-motorized boats or or um I'm not sure there are any boats but yeah but um it as I mean there's a little bit of a boat ramp.

I don't know if that's just for safety um or or what but as you go in maybe to fish um it's a cool thing and I I wasn't there a dedication out there didn't we go out there and dedicate this thing I I wasn't there for it I think I remember that sounds about right about five years ago maybe a little more yeah so so for a lot of reasons I I think it's a really excellent placement um you know in and so I'd be inclined to um uh keep it where it is and unless the sculpture symposium would recommend otherwise um based on their preferences all right is that a motion yeah I would I would say that's a motion to um uh decline to move it okay any discussion commissioner Gregg what was what was the specific rationale from the conservation committee they did approve this before it went in but now they've looked at it and they think it's within the buffer and too close to the Lovewell's pond but it is next to a walking path it's not like it's you know and it's not right on the edge.

It's how far would you say it's maybe uh 35, 40 feet from the edge of the water something like that.

Right.

I mean it's not right it's not in the water you know I mean there's a I hope not.

Yeah no and I I don't think it interferes with any sort of um like rain rainfall runoff or anything like that.

Um there's not any ponding around it or or mosquito um habitats or any anything that I can think of that's extraordinary.

I sort of have a question on who has authority on this more my well I would say um the we're being asked ultimately to approve placement in a park so the m maybe they could take it away without our you know without our authority but they couldn't relocate it in a park without the board of public works.

Okay.

Where it's already been located and approved by the conservation commission would they have authority to take that back I don't know I don't know any but then of course who would move it um so I don't know could they unapprove something I could I kind of doubt it.

Kind of grandfathered right I mean don't they have vested rights in this at this point?

They the sculpture symposium or the city or somebody I mean it's like anything that gets approved you can't just undo it.

There's been an investment now we uh take it away so that is the motion.

So the motion is to um not approve the move to minefalls I yeah in the discussion do we no what I don't know we didn't need a second for that but yeah.

All right.

May I just bring up one thing?

Yes.

Additional.

Um so I if the conservation commission has the authority to say you need to move some Lovewall Pond.

There aren't a lot of they really want this to be near the water for obvious reasons.

Um there aren't a lot of other options.

So like I don't know where else they will move it if they don't move it to mine falls.

So we might be putting the sculpture symposium in a bit of a predicament if the sculpture is going to be moved anyway.

I don't think the conservation commission has the right to undo their authority.

Okay, that being the case, then maybe we could get a legal opinion on that.

And we could so move and then yeah, if it needs to come back to us for it again.

Commission uh ultimatum.

Yeah, I'm just curious who's paying for the move.

The sculpture symposium.

So that they don't want to move it.

Not particularly.

They're just trying to generation committee.

The conservation commission is telling them they need to move it.

Even though they had already said earlier.

And they think that'll kill it right there because we don't have any money.

Sorry.

All right.

So we I think we understand the motion, which is to decline to approve the move.

Uh if there's no other discussion, I go ahead.

Commissioner Shea.

I just want to say I have a great deal of respect for the conservation commission.

Yeah, yeah, definitely.

Of course.

Um, and so this is this is with no uh sort of ill ill will or or bad feelings.

I I the the crux of it is I think it's a uh a poor precedent to have things approved and then changed.

Yes.

And and setting up an opportunity for when the balance of the conservation commission should shift on a particular issue, and and we would so comply with that change in in balance of opinion.

Um I think is a port precedent.

Um and so uh I I I just want to be clear on that.

Um and I I have no further comment.

Commissioner Greg.

And not to belabor this too much, but I really don't have a clear understanding from them and written like a written understanding of like why exactly this change has been made.

So if we had that, I think it would be a lot easier to make this decision, but right now from what we have, the information that we have.

I I think I can answer that, uh, Commissioner Greg.

It's because it is within the buffer, and they think it should be moved outside of the buffer.

Why was it approved within the buffer the first time around?

I can't answer.

That's a good question.

A lot of things get improved, approved within the buffer.

A lot of things so you don't feel like this this isn't an exception per se.

Uh many things have been approved in the buffer.

No, and the balance of the judgment of the group at the time was such that it was warranted to approval.

Yeah, I mean, this is not there are things that are a lot worse than this in the in the buffer.

Okay.

Not there, but around the city.

Salmon Brooke, you know, a lot of things all over the place.

All right.

All those in favor of the motion say aye.

Aye.

Opposed.

Uh motion passes, and uh the relocation is respectfully declined.

Uh item B, uh Commissioner Speedia.

Move motion to approve the request by the National National International Sculpture Symposium to install their sculpture at Udiki Farms.

Subject to approval of a structural engineer.

Okay, so um this sculpture is uh Ryan, correct me, 14 feet tall, which would be being abroad.

Yeah, so this is a huge sculpture where we did uh run this by if you look at the picture, um, it's two very large granite pieces that each weigh about 8200 pounds.

And uh we've had a lot of back and forth.

We're concerned about the placement of this, obviously.

This is a really large sculpture, and when we ran we we did get the information on how they plan to install it.

Uh Engineer Hudson was a bit concerned uh about although he's not a structural engineer, he was a bit concerned with it, so we asked that we um we received the stamp of a structural engineer that it would be safe.

So um, and Udiki is the only place that we could think that would be appropriate for such a very large sculpture.

So this is a sculpture of of two kind of columns of um fabric, fabric in granite.

It it looks like uh two columns of granite or yes, and it it's like shaped like a uh set of grapes, and then there's a figure in between.

Yes.

There's no figure in between.

There's I think they're gonna put a stone in it or something in between, but the figure was just for the stuff.

So yeah, just to show this the size of color it's really really large.

So someone could walk through it like a like uh like a moon door or something like that.

Yeah, okay I love it.

There will be something in between though.

I did I think they're gonna put a rock or some stone.

Well we don't want it to fall on a we don't want it to fall.

Sure, that's my concern.

Yeah.

Okay.

So we would have a structural engineer make sure that it's installed properly.

I think that's commissioner speak to you.

Yeah, I mean I'm I'm supportive of it with the approval of a structural engineer.

I mean, there is I think hesitation, you know.

I know that engineer um Hudson is not structural engineer, but we I do I think I trust them when it would be good to have a structural engineer take a look at it.

I don't want the city to be liable for something like an incident.

Well, I don't want anyone to get hurt to be honest, not even liability.

But it looks nice.

All right, so the motion is to um approve it as long as the structural engineers uh believes it is um sound uh all those in favor of the motion say aye.

Aye opposed motion passes.

Uh next we have an informational item oh just uh discussion regarding the sound system at Renaissance Park.

Was Hanum economic development director?

Um so the Renaissance Park and uh bicentennial and the river walk are almost complete.

Um we have a few additions though that weren't originally planned um at that was brought to you originally.

Um the sound system is one of those things.

Uh we realized at the winter stroll this year that uh with a six thousand dollar rental, the sound barely carried to the the amphitheater seating there, and so it was just unrealistic to ask people to start using that park um without providing a basic level of um sound system service there.

Um the the sound system that we are use is gonna carry through the whole park and it's gonna be a delay system.

So um if you're past the the original amphitheater area, um it'll be delayed, so it won't be a blast just from the stage.

It'll it'll be a lower sound um that will carry further um as opposed to just louder, um, which I think is a great system to be used.

So um we had originally budgeted this for almost a hundred thousand dollars um because we had an estimate between eighty and ninety thousand.

Um and we went with a local company that also works in Greley Park um at $36,000.

Uh this was a uh steal for what we thought we were gonna have to spend.

Um so if you approve it, um then we will uh get the equipment ordered.

It will be about four weeks before it comes in and it'll get installed right away.

Um the park is going to be used uh for Sundays at um until October will be the farmers market, so there'll be performances there every Sunday.

Um I think two or three performances.

So there'll be 54 performances just with the farmers market there over the summer.

Um and then the downtown association and the arts commission are have worked together to start a Saturday night music series.

Um so that'll be 12 performances.

Um so we thought that this would be um the best way to get people using the park.

All right, do we need a motion on this?

Um I think so.

I is there a motion to approve the sound system?

It's it's actually a uh motion to approve the placement.

Oh the placement, the placement of the sound system because the the sound system was actually purchased uh with the two with funds.

Okay.

May ask question.

Yeah, thank you.

How many speakers in total?

Oh gosh.

Uh so it's just gonna be the the s the speakers on each side of the pavilion.

Um and then there are six speakers throughout the rest of the park.

Um and then there's some other equipment uh that are is not speakers, but I don't really know what it is.

I apologize.

Yes, yeah, system.

And then um the um the board, the soundboard as well.

So is it permanent installed?

It is.

Which would be i it won't be removed in the winter either.

Um so it is um vandal proof, uh weatherproof.

Uh again, we will eventually have to um maintain it long term, but um probably six to ten years, um w that we'll start to see some wear and tear.

Um and the the sound engineers are are confident in um uh so people as you know uh people um when there's a dense crowd um it are effectively baffles uh for the sound, right?

And um and so the sound engineers are confident that you have uh say five, six, ten thousand people down there, it'll it'll be adequate for it for that.

Yes.

So we actually used New England um mobile audio this weekend for the the river the Renaissance on the riverfront event, um and they used a very modified version of that sound system.

Um so it seemed to be working really well.

Um we had about 10,000 people throughout the weekend, so um that was that was really helpful.

Um you could hear it on the main street bridge even.

Um it was a little muffled uh when you went around um for Water Street in bicentennial.

But you could still hear basic.

But um we we anticipate that it won't be a problem with with more bodies.

They had did they have um relay speakers further down the park too?

They did.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, very good.

And and I mean for most purposes, um i it it will it will be adequate like it was this week.

It was excellent this weekend, by the way.

It was like Yeah, they did a good job.

Beautiful job.

You did it, everybody did it beautifully.

Thank you.

Um I I wouldn't be surprised if come stroll time there may be a need for additional speakers just just because the density of the crowd for that is so different from from anything else that happens here in the city.

Um but um for for the the broad set of events I I think this will be excellent and I I just say maybe look to a little bit of supplemental and I'm sure the soundboard and the um uh the relay system will be able to be compatible with additional um yeah uh equipment.

Yeah, we have thought about that um because we're not gonna provide any monitors, um any of the bands that want to use monitors will have to bring their own.

Um and if we'll we'll provide a list to any band that's gonna play there of the equipment available to them and they will have to supplement if but we just wanted to get a very basic level system so that it was usable for anyone.

Um and then if they they want to get fancy and and have more um band members, they would have to supplement um themselves.

Yeah, and one more question.

Um has there been any talk about doing movies down there?

So I think you might hear about that in a little bit.

Okay.

Um but I do hope to um try to find uh a screen uh to provide um viewing for the FIFA World Cup um during this this summer.

Okay.

So I'm I'm looking right now, trying to find um find something that we can use.

Yeah, the the um i there are like um stretchy screens that might be suitable with with like anchors and stuff like that in the in the um pavilion.

Uh but anyway, I'll I'll leave you to it.

Um but that's super exciting.

Uh there there's parks does a great program up at up at Greeley uh with with movies and just being in that space um with the the amphitheater um seating and everything.

Um it it's gonna lend to a lot of activities.

Um I have uh we'll have to do more bunny yoga.

Yes, more bunny yoga.

Um we're we were all in the rain with a bunch of bunnies under tents doing yoga and it was it was beautiful.

Um that was so cool.

The the uh that space is just it's it's amazing.

Um the um oh I got I got lost in my my astonishment at how cool it is.

Um movies, no yeah, okay.

No, I I'll I'll leave it there.

Um it it um it's it's it's very special and um I'm very glad to see it uh come to life as it does.

Um so thank you.

The um tickets at Foxboro for the world cover like two thousand apiece, you know.

So yes, sorry.

Um my cousin um is part of Nashville Theatre Guild.

And they do Shakespeare in the park up at Greeley Park.

And um she she does a lot of excuse me, directing for for their programs.

Um she got texts from I think a dozen friends that that were basically like yeah at the event and they they were like this is where you need to do this this year.

Um so I expect that there will be some outdoor theater interest and and things like that.

Uh I'd be happy to add to Greeley Park's performances maybe.

Yes, yes, of course.

Yeah, it and they have a sound system that's accessible for for all sorts of programming is is gonna be really useful.

Um I'm enthused.

Commissioner Greg.

In terms of the placement, um are the speakers gonna be elevated um past like six feet or so?

Yes.

So the main speakers will be on the corners of the the pavilion, which is at twelve feet or so.

Great.

Um and then the relay speakers will all be um at on the um sixteen-foot tall light poles.

Excellent.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Uh Walderman O'Brien.

Yeah, I think Mr.

Mayor.

If we're done with the discussion, I would just like to say looking at the hour.

Uh we're supposed to have another meeting.

I joined meeting with the uh committee of infrastructure and the board of public works.

And it's supposed to be immediately following or at 5 p.m.

So I would just like to make the announcement to the people at home uh that are concerned.

Um that we still got a little bit of the meaning to go and look at the agenda.

You st could maybe going into a non-public session.

So for the people who want to see the infrastructure and to join committee meeting, I'll make the recommendation that we should.

Uh it will convene at 5 30.

And I think that'll give you plenty of time, I hope, to finish your business.

I think we can put it directly.

Yeah.

And that way to people at home, because I know we're gonna go off to Yeah with non-public, so yeah, trying to get the people at home to realize.

All right, thank you.

All right, is there a motion to approve the placement of the sound system?

Commissioner Speed to you.

I move to approve the placement of the sound system.

Any further any further discussion?

All those in favor of the motion say aye.

Motion passes.

I'm sorry too much about that motion, excuse me, but that announcement.

Um now we I believe Commissioner Shea and uh Alderman Morgan are here to talk about Holman Stadium and events in the hopes of attracting more uh events to Holman Stadium.

And so I will turn it over to you to give us your thoughts or yes, suggestions, whatever.

I I'd like to welcome um Albert Morgan uh to to join us.

Um I'll start with uh more than a couple weeks back, um Dirk Kapoto, uh myself, um Brian Conan, and uh Alderman Morgan uh met at Holman Stadium in one of the suites to talk about the space and the opportunities that we have before us with such beautiful venue uh to further activate it and bring more opportunities for community to gather um around various types of entertainment and activities.

Um that that space has been uh home to extraordinary concerts um uh some time ago um uh before I moved to the city, uh maybe maybe in the early late 80s, early 90s.

91.

Um it's also been home to uh the the uh food truck festival uh that the chamber of commerce organized at at one point.

Um the was bacon and beer there?

No, no.

No.

But there fest with that.

What's that?

The Bro Fest Fest.

The Brew Fest, the Brewfest, um, which was organized by National Police Athletic League, um and Bellavance Beverage.

Um it is of course an excellent venue uh for baseball.

Um Superintendent Conan has done extraordinary work with the TERF in that space, and um uh there a whole lifetime ago uh there were some football games there, and that's not really realistic with the level of care that has gone into it.

Uh but but we wanna um and I I might have donned a uh a bird costume um and gotten beat up by the um the the Panther and and National High cheerleaders before the schools uh split into two um at the Turkey Bowl.

Um so so a lot of good memories there personally and and in the community.

Um just thought I'd throw that in there.

Um I think I've got it on VHS somewhere.

My dad had a camcorder.

I'm gonna find that.

Um we'd all like to see that.

Yeah, I'll uh we'll put it up on YouTube.

The uh so we we talked about the space and and what opportunities there might be there.

Um and what we would uh prefer to do is continue the conversation in in a kind of semi-formal manner and have a um uh a committee um to discuss this and and I I'd I'd invite Alderman Morgan to uh share thoughts.

Thank you.

Um to echo everything um that Commissioner Shea said, the first concert I ever saw in my life was at Holman Stadium and it was the Beach Boys.

So um to say there's incredible opportunity of use of space um to really make this it is a crown jewel of our city, it's a pride and joy, and it's an underutilized asset right now.

And um the uh parks and rec department, I think is who does the summer fund series, is that correct?

The recreation.

They do a phenomenal job, and it is incredible to see.

We have so many exciting things in um director photo and I had spoken a few months ago about can we do that?

Can we do more things like that around the year?

Um and so one of the ideas is at Holman Stadium and so to have the idea to look more deeply into what kind of events we can have that would not ruin the turf.

Uh that is perfect.

Um a couple of ideas just quickly so you know kind of what we're thinking.

Um movies on the mound.

So a movie night.

You have a screen on the mound, nobody has to go anywhere on the turf you can sit in the stands.

Um winter activities is really what we're missing after the holiday stroll.

We it it's kind of nothing until fingers crossed we have an good enough weather to make some ice skating rinks.

Um so a walkthrough festival of lights, um, symphony under the stars, um just a couple of ideas, uh dinner on the mount, do like the farmers dinner instead of on Main Street, do it inside of Holman Stadium, but to pull together a group that could focus on that and come up with those ideas that work in the best interest of anyone.

So um, how do you think what how should we form this committee?

You think it should be formal form we disappointed here, or you think we go to the alderman for approval, or what do you think we should do?

I would look to you for that expertise.

You look to me for that.

What do you think?

Um I I think a group of um about uh about six to eight would be would be a good um starting point.

Um perhaps meeting on a monthly basis um or as frequently as twice a month.

Um if the conversation um picks up uh we've been talking about moving further, faster together, and so it it may the pace may look like that.

Um I spoke with Director Foto.

Um we would love for um uh Matt LeBlanc and Brian Conan to join us on the group.

Um and we would love for um Alyssa Umer from uh Downtown Nashville Association to join us.

Umone who has instigated this discussion further uh is Grant Morris.

Uh he has uh previously been involved uh with uh chamber of commerce young professionals and in the events there, so he has some vision for this kind of thing.

Um so have someone from the community.

Um I have uh spoken with uh Commissioner Speedia to see if he would be interested in joining us to have some additional representation from the Board of Public Works.

uh chamber of commerce young professionals and in the events there so he has some some vision for this kind of thing um so have someone from the community um i have uh spoken with uh commissioner spitia to see if he would be interested in joining us to have some additional representation from the board of public works um and we also wanted to um kind of bring it to the board for for more open discussion uh to see if there were any uh additional suggestions um either either from yourself or or from uh commissioners and um so I think a number of of um uh you know roughly roughly eight would be a healthy group to to start with and um take it from there so I think the Board of Public Works really has authority over the home right I mean um in the sense that it's a BPW facility so what if um you and Alderman Morgan come think of your eight people kind of come up and you bring this to the Board of Public Works and uh propose that they be appointed as kind of um you know a committee to uh seek to activate Holman and um then we approve it at a meeting and you begin your work.

Okay.

We approve the list or something yeah would there be space to so move now or would that be well be good if you if you came up with a yeah you could move the committee yes of course but if you came up with a list of people that would be good.

Okay.

Commissioner Lemon as speaking from someone who works in one of the three hundred Nashua nonprofits I think it would be useful I'm not saying it has to be me but there should be somebody from the nonprofit community besides Great American downtown because that would be a great venue for nonprofits we rent just like everybody else rents space in the city so I just want that to be considered when you're forming this committee.

Alright so why don't we uh have a motion to approve the idea of the committee and ask um uh commissioner Shea and um all Alderman Morgan to come forward with a group of people that you think would um be effective and uh for for approval by the board um and then move forward yes may I further move for an initial committee so that we can begin the work sure okay you've got some thoughts on who should be on it already yeah um so so I would I would so move at this time uh that the committee be comprised of uh Alderman Morgan um commissioner spetia um uh Brian Conan um Matt LeBlanc LeBlanc um um myself and um uh would you be interested in joining us yes um and would that bring us to a quorum issue no why don't you um no because you've only got two people oh we got three I don't know maybe maybe um you should probably have Liz Hanham as well okay uh she's good at thinking of these events yeah um the meeting should probably be posted anyway yeah honestly because you have you have so many so therefore quorum would be a non-issue because we would have it would you agree with that I think so okay I mean maybe you post it as a port of public works meeting as well I I don't know we could ask legal about that this all has to do with the right to no law sure I think it'd be ballot point we'd love to have you um and I quorum was my my hesitation for for the additional um uh outreach to to other commissioners um all right so we'll we'll say I'm gonna start over um myself um alderman morgan uh uh commissioner lemon commissioner um uh director Hannem yeah yes yeah yes yes he's still here uh director Hannem um um um Brian Conan uh Matt LeBlanc uh Grant Morris and Alyssa O'Mara so I think that gets us to nine I I think that that would be uh more more than adequate I I don't foresee us um having a need to add anyone additionally at this at this stage all right so uh the motion is to um create this committee with the members as defined by Commissioner Shea and then ask that they meet and begin to discuss how to activate the stadium right yeah thank you all right can I just ask would this also be open to Paul like if you wanted to attend or support Commissioner Greg wanted to attend would this be it's a public meeting I mean I think we meant the whole board of public works okay I was just it's a question.

Any discussion?

All those in favor of the motion say aye.

Aye.

Opposed.

Motion passes.

Thank you very much.

Uh director's report.

Would you like me to forego this this evening given that's good?

We have a non-public.

Yeah.

I can I can share this with you next month.

Yeah, all right.

If we don't if there's no objections, we'll table that till the next meeting.

Yeah, no objection.

Um we now have personnel.

Uh item A, Commissioner Shay.

I move to approve and unseal the non-public minutes for personnel from the board of public works meeting of April twenty first, twenty twenty-six.

Um favor of the motion say aye.

I aye.

Motion passes.

Uh next item B, Commissioner Lemon.

I move to accept the resignation of Kevin Narrow.

Solid waste foreman effective May twenty-sixth, twenty twenty-six.

Um those in favor of the motion say aye.

Can we go back to the committee?

I think um someone needs to create the agenda, call the meeting, decide where the meeting is going to be, when it's going to be.

So there really should be a chair of the committee.

Yeah.

I I I would be glad to chair the committee.

Um and and would um uh primarily confer uh with with Alderman uh Morgan is as uh vice chairman.

And um uh coordinate with the uh group group on availability.

Okay, well that's the same.

All right, so we will have Commissioner Shea as the chair, Al Alderman Morgan is the vice chair, and you will take care of scheduling and agenda and all that.

Yeah, thank you.

Um did we vote on item B yet?

Uh I forget all if not all those in favor of uh item B please say aye.

Motion passes.

Yes, it did.

Uh we now have a non-public session.

Uh Commissioner Gregg probably has the motion.

Yes.

I move by roll call that the board go into non-public session pursuant to RSA ninety-one-a column three to be the hiring of any person as a public employee.

Um need to do this by roll call, right?

Yeah, yes, we do.

Commissioner Shay.

Yes.

Commissioner Lemon?

Yes.

Commissioner Gregg?

Yes.

Commissioner's PDF.

Yes.

Yes.

So we will go into non-public session to um handle a few administrative matters, and then we will return uh to public session.

We have to I have to do the seal the minutes.

First we commit to the first yeah, first we got to seal the minutes or I moved by roll call to seal the minutes of the Board of Public Works personnel non-public meeting of May twenty eighth, twenty twenty-six until such time as the majority of the board votes that the purpose of the confidentiality would no longer be served.

Yes.

Commissioner Greg?

Yes.

Um, so we're now going into um Oh, we're not we're in public session.

Um I think we've concluded our business unless there are remarks by commissioners.

If not, uh I was gonna motion to adjourn.

All those in favor of the motion say aye.

Uh motion passes, and the meeting of the Board of Public Works is uh adjourned at five thirty-two PM.