I thought I would finish.

Let's see.

Okay.

You're gonna use it?

You're gonna use it, right?

Because she's doing this.

Okay, I'm gonna call a special meeting of the Board of Alderman to order on Wednesday, June 18th, 2026 at 7 p.m.

in the Aldermanic Chamber, which has been duly noticed in two places, including the city's website, in accordance with the requirements of RSA 91A.

Now the prayer will be offered by Alderman O'Brien and Alderman Smith will lead us in the pledge to the flag.

Almighty God, we have the high on in the serious duty to manage the affairs of our beloved city.

Fellows O God with a spirit of unity and understanding which enables us to face uh multiple problems with a serene mind, with justice and charity for all, so that any and all decisions made by us will always be for the betterment and greater happiness of all our fellow citizens.

So help us God, amen.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, thank you.

One nation of God with liberty and justice for all let's start the meeting by taking a roll call attendance, please.

Thank you, Madam President.

Uhuman Clemens Otterman Clay here.

Alderman Ravan here.

Ottawa and Smith here.

Otherwise and Thibault?

Here you can smile because you got smiling.

Oh, yeah, thank you.

Alderman O'Brien is present.

Alderman Greg?

Here.

Alderman Dowd?

Present.

Alderman Sullivan.

Alderman Senate.

Here.

Alderman Johnson.

Alderman McKelly.

Alderman Morgan.

Alderman Lopez.

And our president, President Will Shire.

I'm here.

We have one, two, three, four, five, six.

That would make it six.

What is it?

Nine members?

Eight.

Eight.

Eight members present.

No.

Nine.

Nine members.

Nine.

Eight for quorum.

Yeah.

We have a quorum.

Okay.

Okay.

This is usual and customary.

I will turn this meeting over to the chair of the budget review committee, Alderman Dow.

Okay, tonight we have a public hearing in R 26044.

Changing the purposes of up to 1,6,008 of unexpended bond proceeds from five school building project improvements to the bicentennial school roof replacement project.

Mr.

Smith, why don't you come up and sit so you've got to bring the presentation?

Yeah, okay.

Good luck.

Um you have to change probably have to change the um pod in or I have it on the stick, but I also we have it on the supposed to be on the desktop.

We need to change that over to the first place.

That'll just take a few seconds.

Okay.

Should be on the order.

Yeah, because it was a they had it over there before.

All right, so should be clear.

Oops, sorry, clerk right here.

Here it is.

I got it.

Just trying to get it over to clerk.

There it is.

Okay, how do we make it just singularly?

Thank you.

Okay, so um this evening we're gonna have a uh overview uh by myself and um Mr.

Smith regarding this project.

So uh I'll control the slides.

There we go.

Wild on so we're gonna start off, but I'll do the first couple and and Sean will get into the roof itself.

So there are bonding projects that are left over from several uh of our school projects.

And um Mr.

Gray and Miss Uh Enright, and I I sat down with Mr.

Smith and and one other person, I forget who, and made sure all the invoices were all paid, all and came up with the exact amount of money that was left on these bonding projects.

So these are the projects that the funding is coming from.

So the reason for taking this approach on bringing the funds into the bicentennial roof project, you know, we all know that the city has many other bonding projects right now, and uh we have one thousand one million six hundred seven thousand eighty-five dollars of already bonded funds that can only be used for school projects, so no new bonding needs to be authorized because it's uh the way we're transferring the funds, we didn't need this public hearing and go through the process.

This is already approved in the Capital Improvements Committee.

Top priority for the school district for 27.

A leaking school roof can have significant health concerns to consider, and you'll see the the issues with the roofs in a minute.

The debt service for these bonds is already in long-term ad hoc plans, so there's no nothing addition to the ad hoc plan.

And the action will not add any additional debt service, it's already accounted for in that plan.

These funds are covered under bonds with lower interest rates than we would get on new projects, and the action would not add any cost to the FY27 or future city budgets, and the roof is over 30 years old.

Uh so now I'll let Mr.

Smith take it on from here.

We get into the actual roof.

Thank you, Alderman Dowd.

So we uh 2024, we had a company known as ARM consultants uh do assessments of but nine of our roofs.

Nine or eight school roofs plus uh Stello Stadium roof, and the worst by far was uh let's see, by far, uh bicentennial was the worst, followed closely by Fairgrounds Elementary.

Um but this one definitely has more immediate concerns.

The school district uh paid to have some short-term repairs done.

Uh that was done last summer, and those repairs were meant to last for two or three years.

And so two or three years brings us to next summer, and if we uh pass the legislation uh now, then we can hire an architect or somebody to do the design, and then once the design's done, then we can hire a builder to do the roof itself again with an eye towards 2027 installation.

So this represents uh one of the piece of work they provided us.

Each of the little dots represents a leak, it's very suspect part of the roof, as I said.

Uh and those are actually color-coded if you look very, very, very close.

Um we addressed all the ones of media concern.

So everything that was in the two to three-year window.

Excellent.

Uh we also took some pictures to just give you an idea.

A lot of the it's a rubber roof, and it's ballast.

Balchit means there's uh usually river rock river stone on top of it to hold everything down.

Um whenever we have heavy rains to move those rocks back in place.

So a lot of the rate leaks occur in patches, so the roof is now 30 years old, and the patches may last 10 years or so, then we have to redo them.

So kind of the upper left hand shows that uh the next issue becomes when you have seams, so you have two sheets of rubber putting up against each other, and that's what the middle top picture kind of shows you that's starting to separate.

Um if you look very close again at the upper right-hand side, you can actually see the rubber delaminating.

So if you get up a little close, but you can see it start to peel and pull apart.

Um the bottom left and the bottom middle picture are roof penetrations.

That's where we have a lot of roof leaks as well.

Uh that is generally it's a discontinuance in the rubber membrane that's put down.

So then they basically put a patch around it, they caulk around it.

But that's a good place for roof leaks to start again.

And then the bottom right just shows they try to patch looks like tar or caulking put in, and that again it dries up, and we have to replace it.

So again, this this roof is over 30 years old.

Usually a 20-year roof.

And it's costing a significant amount of money every year just to do the patching instead of fixing it the correct way by redoing the roof.

Typically, we when we get put a new roof on, we get a 20-year warranty.

So generally usually gets us through the through the most of the laugh of the roof, but at year 30.

The reason why we've said renovate your schools every 30 years.

So these are examples.

This just shows you what happens when a roof leaks.

Whenever we have roof leaks, we replace the ceiling.

Once we repair the leak, we replace the ceiling tiles.

If there's not a lot of water in it, there's a product called upshot that you can paint the tile white, you don't have to replace it.

Next slide.

But the uh the problem is when you get water inside the school, especially if it gets in walls, becomes a more significant issue.

The middle one just showed a leak right beside a late picture.

That's something you don't want either.

So the estimated cost per ARM consultants uh received that a couple of years ago.

I've escalated it, and it comes to uh 1.857 million.

Um my experience with that particular consultant is they tend to estimate high.

So hopefully it'll be a little bit less than that.

Um so if the funding is approved, then we will hire a firm to develop the specs and then to um we'll have those specs done by roof section.

So if you look back at that slide that showed all the little dots on it, you can kind of tell where roof sections would be.

There you go.

So you can see where you could carve out different pieces of it.

Uh the upper part is shows you two classroom wings.

So each of those could be a section.

Left hand side is actually one of the newer wings, that's another section.

So you could you can carve this up into the eight, nine or ten roof sections.

Um purpose of doing that is is if for some reason we don't have sufficient funds, we can take the roofs that are in best shape and just hold off on doing them for another year, however long it takes to get the funds.

So are there any questions?

All of Lee.

Um, just just uh uh a quick question.

Um this we're going to be using, if I if I'm not mistaken, the whole idea of this is to take the funds from um leftover funds from a bond.

I agree with that it's at a lower price and so on.

But my question is that you said that there was 1.6 million.

He's saying that there's a cost of 1.8 million.

So we're just this conversation is just about taking the 1.6 million and bringing it over to dedicated to this, and then if necessary, we would come up with general funds out of the rest.

Is that correct?

We anticipate the bids coming in lower.

If it comes in a little higher, they'll they'll pick the best section, and and they may make up the difference with a deferred maintenance or just patch that one section of the 10 different sections of the roof, but the worst sections will all be covered.

Under this 1.6 million, is that correct?

Yes.

Yeah, so if I could add to that, not knowing that we're gonna get to 1.6 a year ago when I was putting all the plans in.

I actually had some funds in deferred maintenance to do a portion of this roof.

Um so if we if necessary, we can use those funds for the school.

If I don't use them on this school, I'll start on Fairgrounds Elementary.

Okay, they thank you.

Great.

Yes, it I'll load TV.

Um thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um school's 50 years old, you said this this roof now is over 30.

So did the first one there was there one before, and was that only about 20 years that that one lasted?

Yeah, yes, before my time.

But last time the school was renovated was in the mid-90s, and that's when the roof was replaced.

Thank you.

Oh, Brian?

Ah, thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um, Mr.

Smith, I noticed in some of the pictures, and thank you for that.

Um I used to do a lot of roofing, particularly slate.

And whenever we went up and did repairs, we always used what we call the membrane cloth.

And then with the cold pour, we would put that over, and it was adhesive to both sides, and also covering the crack that you were concerned about.

I it's hard to tell by the picture, but I didn't see that.

But is that still used in the business?

Because I think you get a little bit more longevity as we go in the future to repairs the people that are doing the work to get the most modern technique, you know.

You just go up with COPOA.

That's gone the next summer.

You know, crack on you, you know, after the winter.

So I don't know if you want to think about that.

Yeah, I'll talk.

So we have a consultant that we work with.

Yeah, you know, it would take that level, yeah.

There's a roofing company that we work with, a lot of the uh patches.

Uh started to do them ourselves.

And the patches are typically uh oh, you did a good job.

I'm not trying to be correct.

Yeah.

Any other questions?

Yes.

Thank you.

Um is there more than one contractor bidding, or is there only one?

So there's two steps.

First, we have to hire somebody to do the design.

That'll be a competitive bid.

We'll develop a spec and we'll hire somebody.

I expect multiple people will bid.

And then once we have that spec put together, then we'll bid that out.

Multiple bids again.

It'll be a lot of the roofing companies that can do this work.

Yeah, competitive bid process.

Right.

So go ahead, follow up.

Thank you.

Um so these monies are going to be used for that entire process for both steps.

Yes.

Thank you.

Any other questions?

Yes, yes.

Yes, hi.

Thank you.

Um, so my question has to do as I read this.

It says that there are unexpended bond proceeds from five school building improvement projects.

Were those other projects completed?

Yes, so um there's one project that did the three middle schools.

So we renovated Penetruck and Fairgrounds Middle Schools, then we built McCarthy Middle School.

Uh we about a year ago we completed Birchill and Maine Dustable.

So that's five right there.

We also had funds left over from um our security vegetable project.

And those put in new security vegetables at Dr.

Crisp and new Searles.

So those those are the funds that are going into this.

Okay.

And these funds can only be used for school projects.

Yeah.

All right, thank you.

Any other Alden O'Brien?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Just fine.

A way this is a school makes it more critical than anything else.

I think I remember you remember uh new search and the mold issue, and uh so it looked like at least to get into the structure.

You know, I'm sure you've got to replace the tiles, but would this hopefully include any mitigation of looking into potential if there was any mold in the facility?

We'll watch for that as we replace the roof, yes.

Yeah, we we watch for it anyway.

So if you go into the school, it's a uh a false ceiling, so you just lift the seam tiles, you can see what's going on underneath it.

And uh the main issue that where we have to look is behind drywall.

That's kind of hidden.

Yeah, any other questions.

Seeing none.

Okay, I'll now call for testimony in favor of R26044.

Seeing no one now call for testimony in opposition.

Seeing no one again, testimony in favor of R25 uh 2604.

Seeing no one, and once again, testimony in opposition.

Seeing no one.

I will now call the public hearing on resolution R 2604 closed at 719 p.m.

Alderman Senate.

Do you have a motion?

Yes, I'd like to make a motion that the June 18th, 2026 special meeting of the Board of Alderman be adjourned.

Motion is to adjourn.

All in favor signify by saying aye.

Aye opposed.

Motion carries, we're adjourned at 7.19.

I'm going to leave that.

And the budget was not in the subshot.

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