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Oversight Hearing on Work Order Practices at NYCHA and PACT - September 22, 2026

City Council — Tuesday, September 22, 2026
BodyNew York City, New York
SessionCity Council
DateTuesday, September 22, 2026
StatusFILED
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0:01

Good afternoon.

0:02

And welcome to today's new city council hearing from the Committee on Public Housing.

0:06

At this point, I'd like to remind everyone to please Sunset Electronic Devices and at no point is anyone to approach the dais.

0:13

If you would like to sign up for in-person testimony and haven't filled out a slip, please feel free to fill out one outside at the table in the hallway.

0:20

Chair, we're ready to begin.

0:22

I'm calling this meeting to order.

0:27

Good afternoon, everyone.

0:28

Um and welcome to this hearing on the committee of public housing for New York City Council.

0:35

I'm Councilmember Chris Banks, uh Chair of the Committee, and I'm glad to be joined by my colleagues, uh, Councilmember Morte and Councilmember S.

0:44

Scarcion.

0:45

Um today we will hold an oversight hearing on the work orders systems used in NYCHA and uh PAC developments, which uh residents use to request repairs and notify property managers of conditions in their homes.

1:02

NYCHA has uh two separate systems the SIBO tracks and the residence complaint and the maximal tracks uh that uh the tracks the work order.

1:13

Uh NITRA uses work order data to schedule repairs, direct resources, and measure compliance with the 2019 HUD agreement.

1:23

Uh number of the open work orders has risen and fallen across Mario administrations, but in the past, the city has committed one-time money uh to bringing uh the backlog down each time before it it rises again.

1:39

Uh the work order system is the main way uh for residents to report that something is in their household needs repair, but residents and the public have limited ability to see how the system performs.

1:53

Uh NITRA's work or the system only serves developments that NITRE manages.

1:59

However, each pack property manager uses its own system.

2:04

So residents have uh complained that their open work orders disappear from uh the NYCHA system and that the history of the issue does not carry over to PAC.

2:17

Uh NYCHA's work order system serves only developments that NYCHA manages.

2:22

When a development transfer transitions to PAC, uh it its work orders leaves NITRE system and are then tracked by private management.

2:33

It is unclear what happens to uh to the open work orders at that point and whether NITRE keeps track or communicates with the PAC partners of their progress.

2:45

And NYCHA's public data uh on work orders only goes back one year.

2:50

So the public cannot track trends.

2:54

You know, residents of both NITRE and PAC developments have reported that work orders take too long to address.

3:00

They wait for repairs without knowing when a work or worker will come, and they tell us that no uh one updates them on the status of their requests.

3:13

You know, PAC residents uh tell us they are unsure uh where to call or where the property manager when the property manager does not respond.

3:23

We need today's uh hearing to shed light on a process that has frustrated and confused residents who are trying to live in dignity.

3:33

A work order system that is managed properly can improve the well-being of residents within days.

3:40

So this hearing is our chance to hold NITRE accountable while also uh learning how PAC partners handle repairs.

3:49

We're asking uh NYCHA and PAC partners for more transparency moving forward.

3:55

As more PAC transitions occur, uh residents need a commitment uh to timely and complete work orders, regardless of who manages the building.

4:05

I would like to uh first of all thank my staff, Michael Lambert, Kyle Graham, along with the public housing committee staff, Jose Conde, Simeon Shell, Charles Kim, Spencer Trun, and James Wu and Noah Schlossberg uh for all the work uh they've put into this hearing.

4:25

Uh next, we will now uh welcome as we have done traditionally in my committee since I've become chair of this committee.

4:34

We will now uh call up the pre-panel, uh pre-panelists.

4:38

So please uh approach.

4:45

We have uh Jeremy Estrada Perez Keith Ramsey and Methine Scarcy.

5:06

And we've also been joined by Councilmember.

6:02

And we also have Carla Hollingsworth as well, and we have uh Patricia Dickey who's on Zoom.

6:09

We will begin with uh Mr.

6:13

Methane Scoss.

6:15

Thank you.

6:15

Good to see you.

6:16

Likewise, thank you.

6:19

You have three minutes.

6:21

All right.

6:22

Good afternoon, Chair Banks, uh members of the public housing committee.

6:25

My name is Mateen Sarcy, and I serve as the co-chair of the Housing Land Use and Zoning Committee for Manhattan Community Board 9.

6:32

I'm also an employee of the New York City Housing Authority.

6:34

However, I'm testifying today in my personal capacity, and the views expressed in this statement are my own and do not reflect any official policy or position.

6:42

Um I think one of the unique things about my experience having come from city council is you know being able to problem solve issues.

6:52

And there was a period of time in NYCHA where I was directed to look at community centers, and so I think one of the cool things about what NYC is kind of doing, at least on the Section 9 side, was a lot of their reorganization really helped to um uncover the extent of the disinvestment at NYCHA, um, not just in work orders, but also in HPD violations, which now exist online, and there's a lot more information that tells us how bad the situation really is.

7:27

Uh part of the problem that I kind of see and I saw, I don't know if it's changed in the three years that I was working on this particular project, but a lot of the property management operations are very siloed, uh, which worked really well for uncovering a lot of the issues.

7:46

Uh, but now when you actually have to address them, it actually becomes almost impossible just because now you have a unit with a variety of issues, and if it takes a trade skill a certain amount of time for each one to follow up, yeah, you're gonna see you know delays for about a year or more.

8:06

Um, and so one of the things that uh I think worked really well when we were doing community centers, and I've tried to pass on those notes, uh, is what it actually looks like when we're working with a variety of people.

8:20

And so just on the community center side, what it looks like to have trade skills, a variety of trade skills working on a location at the same time with capital projects, because there are things that Capital Projects does that operations doesn't know about and vice versa.

8:37

And when you tend to have multiple teams in one room, you tend to see a lot of expertise come back and forth.

8:44

And if we use community partnerships, at least in terms of community centers, there's collaborative ways that you could work with people to address a variety of issues.

8:54

Um despite a lot of work order reform that's been ongoing.

8:58

I'd say one of the bigger issues that we have is the fact that the app itself doesn't have a process for maintenance to actually produce a variety of work orders.

9:08

Instead, it gives the uh resident to, you know, essentially passing the buck for them to figure out their own repairs.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
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Miscellaneous███████████████18%
Housing and Infrastructure███████████14%
Engineering And Infrastructure██████7%
Public Engagement██3%
Procedural██2%
Community Engagement█1%
Summary of Proceedings

Oversight Hearing on Work Order Practices at NYCHA and PACT - September 22, 2026

The New York City Council Committee on Public Housing, chaired by Councilmember Chris Banks, held an oversight hearing on Tuesday, September 22, 2026, to examine work order systems used by the New York City Housing Authority (NYCHA) and its Permanent Affordability Commitment Together (PACT) program. The hearing focused on the backlog of open work orders, response times, transparency, and discrepancies between Section 9 (traditional NYCHA) and PACT developments. Councilmembers Banks, Encarnación, Marte, Ossé, and Won were present; Mealy and Restler were absent. Councilmember Nurse also attended.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Mateen Scarcy (Manhattan Community Board 9 co-chair, NYCHA employee, testifying personally): Described siloed operations at NYCHA, noting that the My NYCHA app does not connect to property management systems, forcing residents to navigate complex scheduling. Urged multi-trade teams and integrated software.
  • Carla Hollingsworth (Secretary, Stuyvesant Gardens One Tenants Association): Reported that PACT renovations at Stuyvesant Gardens One were failing—new windows fell inward, asbestos was encapsulated not removed, and apartments were altered without resident consent. Questioned contractor oversight and the $380,000 per unit cost.
  • Keith Ramsey (Eastchester Gardens resident): Highlighted success at his development using Property Mail software, achieving 98% completion of 3,280 work tickets, median 24-hour first response, and 3.3-day average turnaround. Residents rated service 4.1/5 stars. He described a joint bi-weekly tracking list with NYCHA, the first such data-sharing partnership.
  • Jeremy Estrada (Housing organizer): Shared his mother’s experience waiting two months for kitchen cabinets despite a broken sink and asthma-triggering dust. Noted similar delays in Queensbridge, Astoria, and Ravenswood for asbestos and other repairs.
  • Patricia Dickey (NYCHA resident, via Zoom): Described work orders being closed without repairs, difficulty reaching customer service, and constant resets. Her kitchen repairs were scheduled for six months out until intervention by Councilmember Banks’ office resolved them in three days.
  • Layla Glasgow (Democratic District Leader, Chelsea): Reported dangerous gaps at Fulton and Elliott-Chelsea houses slated for demolition: a tenant trapped in her apartment had to be freed by FDNY, and a building entrance door was broken for weeks. The “Meanwhile Plan” meant to prevent deterioration was not being implemented.
  • Denise Davis (Penn-Workman Houses, PACT resident): Reported persistent leaks, loss of subsidy without explanation, elevator breakdowns, and eviction threats related to non-payment tied to unresolved conditions.
  • Ms. Eves (PACT resident): Alleged that PACT is designed to remove tenants, citing retaliation for complaints, chronic eviction cases, and safety hazards like falling down stairs 15 times.
  • Sophia Finn (Legal fellow, New York Legal Assistance Group): Described systemic issues: work orders closed mysteriously, workers taking pictures without repairs, poor scheduling (painters before plaster), and multiple relocations for lead and asbestos that ruined tenants’ belongings.
  • Amelia Walden (Penn-Workman Houses, PACT): Reported mold removal that only wipes and paints, falsified HPD reports, new elevators constantly out of service, and loss of closet space during renovations.
  • Cynthia Tibbs (TA president, Wasser Brownstones, via Zoom): Alleged that NYCHA is now requiring non-disclosure agreements (NDAs) from tenant leaders during PACT pre-development, barring them from speaking to elected officials or residents, calling it undemocratic and unacceptable.
  • Ms. Hines (Elder, Brooklyn): Expressed frustration with systemic failures, mold, asbestos, lead, and paper-thin doors, stating NYCHA should be torn down.

Discussion Items

  • Opening Statement by Chair Banks: Outlined the purpose: understanding two work order systems (SIBO/Maximo for NYCHA, varied systems for PACT), residents’ complaints about disappearing work orders during PACT transitions, and lack of transparency (only one year of public data).
  • NYCHA Testimony – Daniel Green (EVP Property Management) and Heather Beck (EVP & Chief Real Estate Officer):
    • Work order volume: NYCHA receives ~98,000 new maintenance work orders per month; 2.5 million created in 2025, with 2.49 million closed. Open work orders as of Sept 21, 2026: 606,583 (Section 9 only), broken down into: 17,000 maintenance, 311,000 skilled trades, 58,000 other crafts, 221,371 vendor tickets. Skilled trades backlog reduced 14% since 2024 to 282,000.
    • Response times: Emergency work orders averaged 11.1 hours (target 24 hrs); non-emergency averaged 55.6 days. Maintenance basic repairs completed in under 4 days. Missed skilled trade appointments reduced from 10.9% (2024) to 2.7% (July 2026).
    • Aging work orders: 93,000 open for 6–12 months; 332,000 open for over one year (mostly paint). Mold/leak backlog: 63,972 total, 21,968 (34%) older than one year, 58,295 (91%) requiring skilled trades.
    • PACT work orders: NYCHA collects monthly data on five HUD pillar areas (elevators, heat, leaks, mold, pests). As of Aug 31, 2026, only 409 open work orders across 32,000 PACT units (one per 100 units). Typical resolution within one day. On-time resolution decreased: 90.75% (2023), 87.5% (2024), 74.5% (2025). Total 65 work orders open >100 days.
    • Inspections: NYCHA now inspects 100% of apartments annually (previously 50% every 4 years). HUD physical inspection (INSPIRE) scores improved from 32.5 (2022-23) to 79.5 (Sept 2026), with 89% passing.
    • Vacancies: Only 44 skilled trades vacancies out of 1,750; 30 maintenance vacancies out of 750. Plaster academy underway.
    • Initiatives: Maintenance Cares (1,164 high-need apartments resolved since Feb 2025); Critical Repairs Initiative (CRI) launching with $20M for overtime; Mold & Leaks Restore & Renew (4,000 work orders completed, goal 10,000 over 2 years); Elevator door parts funding ($2M over 3 years, zero repairs to date).
  • Council Q&A Highlights:
    • Chair Banks: Pressed on why total work orders aren’t dropping despite PACT conversions (Green cited increased inspections generating more work orders). Questioned seven-month average wait for skilled trades; Green acknowledged it’s unacceptable but cited resource constraints.
    • Councilmember Encarnación (District 8): Noted that constituent services are overwhelmed tracking work orders; called for proactive management instead of resident-driven follow-up. Questioned how apartment inspections can yield high pass rates when conditions remain poor.
    • Transparency: NYCHA does not publish work order closures without repair separately. Only one year of Section 9 data is public; 7.5 million work order transactions provided to Council oversight. PAC data published quarterly but less detailed because NYCHA is not the property manager.
    • Oversight: NYCHA’s quality assurance unit inspects ~3,500 closed work orders per quarter; 3% found unsatisfactory. No specific data on disciplinary actions for falsification or referrals to DOI. Independent mold analyst inspects closed mold/leak work orders monthly.
    • Housing Court: In FY2025, 551 order-to-show-cause HP cases brought 5,312 violations; only 31% resolved as of September 2026. NYCHA now receives daily HPD violation data electronically.

Key Outcomes

  • The Committee held the oversight hearing; the matter was filed without any immediate legislative action.
  • NYCHA committed to provide additional data requested by the Chair, including historical work order numbers, breakdown by age, and follow-up on disciplinary actions.
  • Chair Banks emphasized the need for NYCHA to accept independent inspections by HPD and greater transparency for PACT work order data.
  • Several public testifiers raised concerns about PACT evictions, non-disclosure agreements, and unsafe conditions; NYCHA stated it would take back questions on NDAs and the Meanwhile Plan for further review.
  • The hearing concluded with no formal votes or directives, but the record will remain open for written testimony submitted within 72 hours.

Meeting Transcript

Good afternoon. And welcome to today's new city council hearing from the Committee on Public Housing. At this point, I'd like to remind everyone to please Sunset Electronic Devices and at no point is anyone to approach the dais. If you would like to sign up for in-person testimony and haven't filled out a slip, please feel free to fill out one outside at the table in the hallway. Chair, we're ready to begin. I'm calling this meeting to order. Good afternoon, everyone. Um and welcome to this hearing on the committee of public housing for New York City Council. I'm Councilmember Chris Banks, uh Chair of the Committee, and I'm glad to be joined by my colleagues, uh, Councilmember Morte and Councilmember S. Scarcion. Um today we will hold an oversight hearing on the work orders systems used in NYCHA and uh PAC developments, which uh residents use to request repairs and notify property managers of conditions in their homes. NYCHA has uh two separate systems the SIBO tracks and the residence complaint and the maximal tracks uh that uh the tracks the work order. Uh NITRA uses work order data to schedule repairs, direct resources, and measure compliance with the 2019 HUD agreement. Uh number of the open work orders has risen and fallen across Mario administrations, but in the past, the city has committed one-time money uh to bringing uh the backlog down each time before it it rises again. Uh the work order system is the main way uh for residents to report that something is in their household needs repair, but residents and the public have limited ability to see how the system performs. Uh NITRA's work or the system only serves developments that NITRE manages. However, each pack property manager uses its own system. So residents have uh complained that their open work orders disappear from uh the NYCHA system and that the history of the issue does not carry over to PAC. Uh NYCHA's work order system serves only developments that NYCHA manages. When a development transfer transitions to PAC, uh it its work orders leaves NITRE system and are then tracked by private management. It is unclear what happens to uh to the open work orders at that point and whether NITRE keeps track or communicates with the PAC partners of their progress. And NYCHA's public data uh on work orders only goes back one year. So the public cannot track trends. You know, residents of both NITRE and PAC developments have reported that work orders take too long to address. They wait for repairs without knowing when a work or worker will come, and they tell us that no uh one updates them on the status of their requests. You know, PAC residents uh tell us they are unsure uh where to call or where the property manager when the property manager does not respond. We need today's uh hearing to shed light on a process that has frustrated and confused residents who are trying to live in dignity. A work order system that is managed properly can improve the well-being of residents within days. So this hearing is our chance to hold NITRE accountable while also uh learning how PAC partners handle repairs. We're asking uh NYCHA and PAC partners for more transparency moving forward. As more PAC transitions occur, uh residents need a commitment uh to timely and complete work orders, regardless of who manages the building. I would like to uh first of all thank my staff, Michael Lambert, Kyle Graham, along with the public housing committee staff, Jose Conde, Simeon Shell, Charles Kim, Spencer Trun, and James Wu and Noah Schlossberg uh for all the work uh they've put into this hearing. Uh next, we will now uh welcome as we have done traditionally in my committee since I've become chair of this committee. We will now uh call up the pre-panel, uh pre-panelists. So please uh approach. We have uh Jeremy Estrada Perez Keith Ramsey and Methine Scarcy. And we've also been joined by Councilmember. And we also have Carla Hollingsworth as well, and we have uh Patricia Dickey who's on Zoom. We will begin with uh Mr. Methane Scoss. Thank you. Good to see you. Likewise, thank you. You have three minutes. All right. Good afternoon, Chair Banks, uh members of the public housing committee. My name is Mateen Sarcy, and I serve as the co-chair of the Housing Land Use and Zoning Committee for Manhattan Community Board 9. I'm also an employee of the New York City Housing Authority. However, I'm testifying today in my personal capacity, and the views expressed in this statement are my own and do not reflect any official policy or position. Um I think one of the unique things about my experience having come from city council is you know being able to problem solve issues.

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