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Oversight Hearing on CUNY Study Abroad Opportunities – September 29, 2026

City Council — Tuesday, September 29, 2026
BodyNew York City, New York
SessionCity Council
DateTuesday, September 29, 2026
StatusFILED
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Speaker 1

0:05

Good afternoon and welcome to today's New York City Council hearing on committee on higher education.

0:12

If you want to testify, please fill our testimony sleep, even if you feel it out online.

0:17

At this time, during today's hearing, no one may approach the days.

0:21

Please silence any electronic devices you may have.

0:24

And chair, you may begin.

Speaker 2

0:29

Good afternoon.

0:30

I am Councilmember Rita Joseph, Chair of the Committee on Higher Education.

0:34

Welcome to today's Oversight Hearing on Study Abroad Opportunities at CUNY.

0:38

CUNY legally mandates mission is to maintain and expand its commitment to academic excellence and to the provision of equal access opportunity for students, faculty, and staff from all ethnic and racial groups and from both sexes.

0:54

CUNY fulfills its mission in part by ensuring that CUNY students have access to the same breadth of experience that all college students should have access to.

1:03

That would include study abroad opportunities, which can change a student's life.

1:08

There's really no substitute for immersing yourself in the culture of another country and gaining all of the academic and life experiences that studying outside of the U.S.

1:17

offers.

1:18

This topic is close to my heart because of my own study abroad experiences.

1:23

As a student, I had the privilege of studying abroad in Czech Republic, Hungary, and Austria.

1:28

That experience allowed me to work at the United Nations to see politics and decision making through a different lens.

1:34

Afterwards, I brought that experience into my own classroom as an educator.

1:38

And I reminded my students they are global citizens.

1:40

Every CUNY students deserve the chance to discover that for themselves.

1:45

The research shows that students who study abroad develop leadership skills and 21st century skills often sought by employers.

1:52

The research also shows that students who study abroad are more likely to graduate on time and further that students from underrepresented minority groups on a need basis aid the most from studying abroad.

2:04

Donald Rubin, co-author of One Research Research Study, commented if we are concerned with equity in higher education in completing college, helping these students study abroad seems seems of I believe that we are concerned with that at CUNY.

2:21

Looking specifically at community college data shows that under 2% of U.S.

2:25

study abroad students were studying an associate degree from Susan Laventure, former director of international education at community college in North Carolina.

2:34

Remark if we want to be equitable, our students must should have the same access to study abroad as students as Harvard.

2:41

This is what I want for our community college students at CUNY.

2:45

Today the community the committee is interested in how CUNY study abroad programs are advertised so that as many CUNY students as possible are made aware of them, and whether a substantial number of CUNY students can afford to participate in them, and how many CUNY students from what background enrolls in the programs.

3:03

The committee is looking forward to CUNY's discussion for their summer study abroad program, which had just finished and their fall program, which has just started.

3:12

Finally, the committee is interested in CUNY's plan for sustaining and expanding these programs.

3:17

Now I want to acknowledge Councilmember Ariola on Zoom.

Unassigned speaker

3:25

I

Speaker 2

3:25

also would like to thank Giovanni Piquant, my chief of staff, Ben Atkinson, my Director of Policy and Budget, Amita Kalwan, the committee senior legislative council, Regina Paul, the committee senior legislative policy analysis, and Ali Stofer, the committee financial analysis.

3:41

I would like to remind everyone who wishes to testify in person today, you must fill out a witness slip, which is located on the desk of Sergeant at Arms near the entrance of this room.

3:50

Please fill out the slip, even if you're ready, you have already registered in advance that you'll be testifying in person today.

3:56

To allow as many people as possible to testify, testimonies will be limited to two minutes per person, whether you're testifying in person or on Zoom.

4:05

I'm also going to ask my colleagues to limit their questions and comments to five minutes.

4:09

Please note that witnesses who are here in person will testify before those who are signed in on the Zoom.

4:16

Now, in accordance with the rules of the council, I have the committee council administer the affirmation to the witnesses.

Speaker 3

4:23

Would you all please raise your right hand?

Unassigned speaker

4:25

Do

Speaker 3

4:26

you affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth in your testimony before this committee and to respond honestly to council member questions?

4:32

Kim Holland, Director of Global Education and Initiatives in the Office of Academic Affairs.

4:38

Stephen First, Executive Director of the Center for Global Engagement at the College at Saturn Island.

Unassigned speaker

4:45

And

Speaker 3

4:45

Jessica Rothman, Professor of Anthropology Conservation.

Speaker 4

4:49

Thank

Speaker 3

4:49

you.

4:50

You may begin when ready.

Speaker 5

4:55

All right.

4:56

Thank you very much.

4:57

Can you hear me clearly?

5:02

Ah.

5:03

Is that better?

5:04

Good.

5:05

Thank

Unassigned speaker

5:05

you.

Speaker 5

5:06

Thank you,

Unassigned speaker

5:07

sir.

Speaker 5

5:08

Good afternoon, Chairperson Joseph and members of the City Council Higher Education Committee.

5:14

Thank you for the opportunity to speak to you today about study abroad

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Summary of Proceedings

Oversight Hearing on CUNY Study Abroad Opportunities – September 29, 2026

The New York City Council Committee on Higher Education, chaired by Councilmember Rita C. Joseph, held an oversight hearing to examine study abroad programs at the City University of New York (CUNY). The hearing focused on program access, affordability, demographic participation, and strategies for expansion. Witnesses included CUNY administrators and faculty who provided detailed data on participation rates, student outcomes, and barriers.

Witness Testimony

  • Kim Holland, University Director of Global Education and Initiatives, presented data from fall 2025 through summer 2026: 1,512 CUNY undergraduates from 15 campuses studied abroad in 49 countries. Of these, 89.1% participated in CUNY-sponsored programs, 24% in semester-long programs, and 75.9% in winter/summer intersessions. 72% were from four-year campuses, 28% from community colleges. She highlighted three program types: exchange, faculty-led, and affiliated programs. Holland noted that 16.9% of study abroad students used ePERMIT for cross-campus registration.
  • Stephen First, Executive Director of the Center for Global Engagement at the College of Staten Island, emphasized that study abroad is integral to CUNY's academic mission. He cited national data showing study abroad students have a 95.1% six-year graduation rate (30 points higher), are 6.2% more likely to graduate in four years (11.6% for first-generation students), earn 6.3% more ($4,000+) in their first job, and 52% pursue graduate degrees. He described barriers such as time constraints, curricular inflexibility, and finances, and noted that CUNY staff work with over 7,500 students annually (1,500 who go abroad, 1,500 who return, and 3,000 who cannot afford to go).
  • Professor Jessica Rothman of Hunter College described her Uganda-based wildlife conservation programs. She reported that 89 CUNY students (57 undergraduates) have participated. Students conduct field research on primates and wildlife, and many have gone on to prestigious fellowships (Fulbright, NSF graduate fellowships) and careers in science. She noted her programs serve underrepresented minorities, reflecting Hunter's 70% student of color population.

Discussion and Questions

Councilmembers explored several topics:

  • Recruitment and Awareness: Chair Joseph asked about informing students at admission. Holland noted it varies by campus; First described embedding study abroad in admissions materials at CSI. Joseph stressed the need for earlier messaging and peer ambassadors.
  • Career Readiness: Chair Joseph asked how returning students translate study abroad into job skills. First described new advising sheets connecting study abroad to workforce readiness and planned international internships. Rothman added that advisors help students craft resumes and identify skills.
  • Demographics and Equity: Holland provided demographics: 34.2% Hispanic, 11.7% Black, 4.5% multiracial, 27.4% White, 22% Asian among study abroad students; 48.7% Pell-eligible, but only 1.2% with public assistance history. Councilmember Epstein requested data on ASAP/SEEK program participants; Holland promised follow-up.
  • Funding: Councilmember Brewer pressed for aggressive pursuit of private and federal grants. First noted that $69.4 million in federal funding was rescinded the night before. Rothman said NSF grants are depleting. Brewer urged application to foundations.
  • Goals: Councilmember Dinowitz asked about specific enrollment targets. Holland said no system-wide goal exists, but CSI targets 10% of graduates to have international experience. Chair Joseph supported setting targets for underrepresented groups.
  • Domestic Study Away: Chair Joseph asked about programs outside New York. Holland mentioned a Queens College program but noted incomplete data.
  • Israel Programs: Councilmember Dinowitz asked about CUNY's relationship with Israel. Holland explained that a previous exchange program was sunset before October 7, and efforts to rebuild were paused due to safety. First confirmed CSI has agreements with Israeli universities ready to resume when safe.
  • Advertising and Outreach: First described multi-channel marketing (social media, email, fairs). Chair Joseph suggested convening community colleges to share best practices.
  • Student Stories: Rothman shared examples of students who went to Uganda and later earned PhDs and prestigious positions. First told of a student who became a Watson Fellow, Fulbright recipient, and Peace Corps acceptee.

Key Outcomes

  • The committee filed the oversight report (per minutes).
  • Chair Joseph committed to working with CUNY to expand study abroad, particularly for underrepresented and community college students, and to pursue funding through public-private partnerships.
  • Councilmember Dinowitz requested follow-up on Israel program numbers and reaffirmed CUNY's commitment to such exchanges.
  • Councilmember Brewer directed CUNY to aggressively apply for grants and use platforms like Muse for scholarship promotion.
  • The chair indicated she would reach out to CUNY leadership to continue discussions on program expansion, funding, and creating a pipeline for anthropology students to work on local African burial ground projects.

Meeting Transcript

Good afternoon and welcome to today's New York City Council hearing on committee on higher education. If you want to testify, please fill our testimony sleep, even if you feel it out online. At this time, during today's hearing, no one may approach the days. Please silence any electronic devices you may have. And chair, you may begin. Good afternoon. I am Councilmember Rita Joseph, Chair of the Committee on Higher Education. Welcome to today's Oversight Hearing on Study Abroad Opportunities at CUNY. CUNY legally mandates mission is to maintain and expand its commitment to academic excellence and to the provision of equal access opportunity for students, faculty, and staff from all ethnic and racial groups and from both sexes. CUNY fulfills its mission in part by ensuring that CUNY students have access to the same breadth of experience that all college students should have access to. That would include study abroad opportunities, which can change a student's life. There's really no substitute for immersing yourself in the culture of another country and gaining all of the academic and life experiences that studying outside of the U.S. offers. This topic is close to my heart because of my own study abroad experiences. As a student, I had the privilege of studying abroad in Czech Republic, Hungary, and Austria. That experience allowed me to work at the United Nations to see politics and decision making through a different lens. Afterwards, I brought that experience into my own classroom as an educator. And I reminded my students they are global citizens. Every CUNY students deserve the chance to discover that for themselves. The research shows that students who study abroad develop leadership skills and 21st century skills often sought by employers. The research also shows that students who study abroad are more likely to graduate on time and further that students from underrepresented minority groups on a need basis aid the most from studying abroad. Donald Rubin, co-author of One Research Research Study, commented if we are concerned with equity in higher education in completing college, helping these students study abroad seems seems of I believe that we are concerned with that at CUNY. Looking specifically at community college data shows that under 2% of U.S. study abroad students were studying an associate degree from Susan Laventure, former director of international education at community college in North Carolina. Remark if we want to be equitable, our students must should have the same access to study abroad as students as Harvard. This is what I want for our community college students at CUNY. Today the community the committee is interested in how CUNY study abroad programs are advertised so that as many CUNY students as possible are made aware of them, and whether a substantial number of CUNY students can afford to participate in them, and how many CUNY students from what background enrolls in the programs. The committee is looking forward to CUNY's discussion for their summer study abroad program, which had just finished and their fall program, which has just started. Finally, the committee is interested in CUNY's plan for sustaining and expanding these programs. Now I want to acknowledge Councilmember Ariola on Zoom. I also would like to thank Giovanni Piquant, my chief of staff, Ben Atkinson, my Director of Policy and Budget, Amita Kalwan, the committee senior legislative council, Regina Paul, the committee senior legislative policy analysis, and Ali Stofer, the committee financial analysis. I would like to remind everyone who wishes to testify in person today, you must fill out a witness slip, which is located on the desk of Sergeant at Arms near the entrance of this room. Please fill out the slip, even if you're ready, you have already registered in advance that you'll be testifying in person today. To allow as many people as possible to testify, testimonies will be limited to two minutes per person, whether you're testifying in person or on Zoom. I'm also going to ask my colleagues to limit their questions and comments to five minutes. Please note that witnesses who are here in person will testify before those who are signed in on the Zoom. Now, in accordance with the rules of the council, I have the committee council administer the affirmation to the witnesses. Would you all please raise your right hand? Do you affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth in your testimony before this committee and to respond honestly to council member questions? Kim Holland, Director of Global Education and Initiatives in the Office of Academic Affairs. Stephen First, Executive Director of the Center for Global Engagement at the College at Saturn Island. And Jessica Rothman, Professor of Anthropology Conservation. Thank you. You may begin when ready. All right. Thank you very much.

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