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New York City Council Environmental Protection Committee Hearing on Coastal Resilience and Related Legislation - September 30, 2026

City Council — Wednesday, September 30, 2026
BodyNew York City, New York
SessionCity Council
DateWednesday, September 30, 2026
StatusFILED
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Speaker 1

2:54

Good afternoon.

2:55

Welcome to the Committee on Environmental Protection and Waterfronts.

2:58

At this time, we ask that you please silence all electronics.

3:02

If you wish to testify, please see one of the sergeant at arms in the back.

3:06

And at no point, please do not approach the day.

Speaker 2

3:11

Thank you for reminding me to silence my phone.

3:13

Let me do that now.

4:07

343, sponsored by Council Member Sandy Nurse, in relation to waiving fees for street crane permits related to solar installations.

Unassigned speaker

5:00

And this past weekend the city was hit with a nor'easter, which brought coastal flooding, strong winds, and heavy rains, which unfortunately led to the passing of New Yorker and NYCHA employee Leighton Brown, a maintenance supervisor who's tragically struck and killed by a falling tree during the storm.

Speaker 2

5:21

I would like to offer my sincerest condolences to Mr.

5:24

Brown's family and friends.

5:31

And his confluence of factors led to significant coastal flooding in low-lying waterfront neighborhoods.

5:37

While the city was spared the worst of these effects, our neighbors in New Jersey were not so lucky.

5:43

Across the state, the combination of severe storm surge and higher than average tide washed away entire stretches of beach, creating significant economic damage and undoing millions of dollars in recent recent beach renourishment work.

5:59

As some of you know, back in 2012, well,

Unassigned speaker

6:03

I

Speaker 2

6:03

don't think anybody

Speaker 3

6:04

knows this, but

Speaker 2

6:05

I know it.

6:07

As some of you as you probably don't know, back in 2012, I um introduced a bill that would go on to become local of 42 of 2012, um, codifying the New York City panel on climate change and the climate adaptation task force.

Unassigned speaker

6:25

Um

Speaker 2

6:26

according to the panel's 2024 report, that is the NPCC, local sea levels are projected to rise between six inches.

6:38

These are their projections, not mine, to rise between six inches local sea levels are projected to rise between six inches and approximately twelve inches by the 2030s, one to two feet by the 2050s, and two to five point five feet by 2100.

7:00

I think those estimates are a little high, and you're gonna go off on a tangent for a minute, and therein lies, you know, some of the people who criticize climate change and don't believe in it, don't

Unassigned speaker

7:15

you

Speaker 2

7:15

know they don't know, you know, they they don't have confidence in

Unassigned speaker

7:18

it.

Speaker 2

7:19

Back when I was working for the state as the DEP, as the DE, the state DEC deputy commissioner, um we were for our purposes in DEC using um numbers for sea level projections that were uh projected by Columbia.

7:44

Um and um and the office uh and the governor's office of storm recovery were using numbers that were generated by my alma mater um Stony Brook University, uh their uh department of you know, marine, oh god, senior moment, uh Department of uh SOMAS School of Marine and Atmospheric Sciences, and um you know, their high-end estimates for sea level rise by X date, whatever it was, or half of what the Columbia projections were.

8:27

And so I raised the point with the commission of DEC and state government at large.

8:34

People see state government as kind of like one entity, and we have two sets of books for sea level rise.

8:41

So if you're at the governor's office of storm recovery, you're seeing the high-end estimate of like X.

8:48

And if you look at Columbia's number, the high end X uh high-end estimate was 2x.

8:53

And so

Unassigned speaker

8:54

we

Speaker 2

8:54

shouldn't have two sets of books, and this is why people lose confidence in you know climate forecasting and sea level rise projections.

9:05

Um because they're like personalities of

Unassigned speaker

9:09

you

Speaker 2

9:09

know, the one who was doing it at Stonybrook was uh he was a Nobel laureate.

9:14

Um, and he's very strict in terms of we don't know something until we know

Unassigned speaker

9:19

it.

Speaker 2

9:20

And so if we don't know it, it's not going in the calculus for the projections.

9:25

We could be wrong.

9:26

We can end up there could be things that we don't know, factors that we don't really that we think are out there, but we haven't really studied them enough that like they're not going in the um projections.

9:38

We're gonna be conservative.

9:40

And whereas some other entities are like, well, you have to bill in a little little bit of a fudge factor because nature always has something out there that we don't yet know.

Unassigned speaker

9:50

So let's use the Ouija board and try to fit it in somehow uh to account in our current projections that which we don't fully know yet.

Speaker 2

10:01

And so as a scientist, it's always like kind of annoyed me.

10:04

And so that's two minutes of your life.

10:08

You can't get back.

10:09

Sorry, but hopefully it was enriching about climate science and why people sometimes poke at it, because that's exactly the thing people would say.

10:18

New York State's got two sets of books on like what climate, you know, on what sea liberal rise projections are.

10:25

You know, one of them is gonna be wrong, probably both of

Unassigned speaker

10:28

them.

Speaker 2

10:28

And so that doesn't mean we shouldn't endeavor to figure it out.

10:31

It doesn't mean we shouldn't try to prepare for it, but these are some of the frustrations when you're dealing with people who don't want to even recognize climate change and sea level rise as a thing.

10:42

This is fodder for them to throw in our face, and I don't like to serve up things that are people gonna throw in our face.

10:47

That's three minutes you can't get

Unassigned speaker

10:49

back.

Speaker 2

10:49

And so where were

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Environmental Protection████████████████████████████████████████████44%
Engineering And Infrastructure█████████████13%
Procedural███████████11%
Public Health███████7%
Community Engagement███████7%
Public Safety█████5%
Technology and Innovation████4%
Public Engagement████4%
Water And Wastewater Management██2%
Summary of Proceedings

New York City Council Committee on Environmental Protection and Waterfronts Hearing on Coastal Resilience - September 30, 2026

The Committee on Environmental Protection and Waterfronts, chaired by James F. Gennaro, held an oversight hearing on coastal resilience on Wednesday, September 30, 2026, at 1:00 PM. The hearing addressed the city's response to a recent nor'easter that caused coastal flooding and one fatality, and considered three pieces of legislation: Int. 0343-2026 (solar permit fees), Int. 0931-2026 (mobile drinking fountains), and Int. 0936-2026 (establishing a Department of Coastal Protection). Committee members present were Chair Gennaro and Council Member Sanchez; Council Members Epstein, Hanks, and Restler were absent. Council Member Avilés also attended. All three introductions were heard and laid over by the committee.

Oversight – Coastal Resilience

  • Chair Gennaro opened by noting the recent nor'easter that caused coastal flooding, strong winds, and heavy rains, leading to the tragic death of NYCHA maintenance worker Leighton Brown. He expressed condolences and discussed the importance of preparing for sea level rise and storm surge, citing projections from the New York City Panel on Climate Change (NPCC) of 6–12 inches of sea level rise by the 2030s, 1–2 feet by the 2050s, and 2–5.5 feet by 2100.
  • Deputy Commissioner Beth DeFalco of the Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) testified about the city's coastal resilience work. She noted that DEP created the Bureau of Coastal Resilience (BCR) in 2023, and that the administration invested $43.2 million to expand BCR from 6 to 75 employees. BCR oversees 16 active infrastructure projects, including the $1.46 billion Eastside Coastal Resiliency Project, the $388 million Brooklyn Bridge Montgomery Coastal Resiliency Project, the $2.4 billion Staten Island Seawall, the $228 million Seaport Coastal Resiliency Project, and the $208 million Red Hook Coastal Resiliency Project. She emphasized the need for a coordinated citywide approach and sustainable funding, noting that fully protecting the coastline could cost $1–2 billion annually over 20–30 years.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Waterfront Alliance (via representative): Expressed strong support for building on the capacity of DEP's Bureau of Coastal Resilience rather than creating a new department. Recommended the committee hold another oversight hearing next spring and urged a future hearing on groundwater flood risk (Int. 0662).
  • Riverkeeper (Brianna Kilkenny): Opposed the creation of a new department (Int. 0936), arguing that BCR benefits from DEP's expertise and job training pipeline. Supported codifying BCR within DEP and praised the $43 million investment.
  • New York League of Conservation Voters (Caitlin Philotoro): Supported the intent of Int. 0936 but preferred codifying BCR within DEP. Supported Int. 0931 but recommended a cost-benefit analysis comparing mobile fountains to permanent water fountains. Also called for more funding for MOCEJ and DEP staffing.
  • Elizabeth Cortez (remote, personal capacity): Supported Int. 0931 with a feasible implementation plan and adequate resources, emphasizing the need to prioritize high-vulnerability neighborhoods, citing health department data on heat-related mortality disparities.

Discussion Items

  • Int. 0343-2026 – Solar permit fee waiver: DEP deferred to DOB. DOB representatives (Wendy Wan and Jill Herbeck) explained that crane permits cost $150–$250, and that solar panel installations often do not require crane permits. DOB noted a decline in solar permit filings from about 9,400 in 2024 to 3,300 so far in 2026, coinciding with the expiration of federal tax credits. The committee discussed barriers to solar adoption.
  • Int. 0931-2026 – Mobile drinking fountain program: DEP expressed concerns about staffing and costs, noting that deploying fountains would require two people per station and could pull personnel from critical water supply duties during heat emergencies. DEP currently has only 9 fountains, used for emergencies. Council Member Epstein, the bill's sponsor, participated and acknowledged the need to tailor the bill. DEP suggested collaboration with other agencies and exploring expanded cooling stations.
  • Int. 0936-2026 – Establishment of a Department of Coastal Protection: DEP testified that they share the goal of accountability and coordination but urged caution against fragmenting the existing structure. They noted that creating a new department could disrupt the work of the newly expanded BCR. Chair Gennaro pressed for details on the comprehensive vision and coordination, and DEP explained ongoing planning efforts like the RISE (Resilient Infrastructure for Shoreline Edges) project, due by end of 2026, and a comprehensive coastal resilience plan expected in 2–3 years. Council Member Avilés raised concerns about community engagement, development pressures, and industrial waterfront uses. Chair Gennaro expressed a desire to move forward with the bill, while DEP asked for flexibility and more time.
  • Community engagement and development coordination: Council Member Avilés noted that Red Hook residents were surprised by the creation of BCR and stressed the need for meaningful community input. She also questioned how BCR coordinates with other city agencies on development and land use in flood-prone areas. DEP acknowledged challenges and stated they are working to improve outreach, particularly through flooding town halls.

Key Outcomes

  • Hearings held and all three introductions (Int. 0343-2026, Int. 0931-2026, Int. 0936-2026) were laid over by the committee – no vote taken. The committee will continue to work on the legislation.
  • Oversight hearing on coastal resilience was filed – no formal action beyond receiving testimony.
  • Chair Gennaro committed to advancing Int. 0936 and expressed willingness to work with stakeholders on amendments, including possibly codifying BCR within DEP rather than creating a new department.
  • Public testimony will be submitted within 72 hours for the record.
  • Committee dedicated the hearing to the memory of Leighton Brown, the NYCHA employee killed during the storm, and observed a moment of silence.

Meeting Transcript

Good afternoon. Welcome to the Committee on Environmental Protection and Waterfronts. At this time, we ask that you please silence all electronics. If you wish to testify, please see one of the sergeant at arms in the back. And at no point, please do not approach the day. Thank you for reminding me to silence my phone. Let me do that now. 343, sponsored by Council Member Sandy Nurse, in relation to waiving fees for street crane permits related to solar installations. And this past weekend the city was hit with a nor'easter, which brought coastal flooding, strong winds, and heavy rains, which unfortunately led to the passing of New Yorker and NYCHA employee Leighton Brown, a maintenance supervisor who's tragically struck and killed by a falling tree during the storm. I would like to offer my sincerest condolences to Mr. Brown's family and friends. And his confluence of factors led to significant coastal flooding in low-lying waterfront neighborhoods. While the city was spared the worst of these effects, our neighbors in New Jersey were not so lucky. Across the state, the combination of severe storm surge and higher than average tide washed away entire stretches of beach, creating significant economic damage and undoing millions of dollars in recent recent beach renourishment work. As some of you know, back in 2012, well, I don't think anybody knows this, but I know it. As some of you as you probably don't know, back in 2012, I um introduced a bill that would go on to become local of 42 of 2012, um, codifying the New York City panel on climate change and the climate adaptation task force. Um according to the panel's 2024 report, that is the NPCC, local sea levels are projected to rise between six inches. These are their projections, not mine, to rise between six inches local sea levels are projected to rise between six inches and approximately twelve inches by the 2030s, one to two feet by the 2050s, and two to five point five feet by 2100. I think those estimates are a little high, and you're gonna go off on a tangent for a minute, and therein lies, you know, some of the people who criticize climate change and don't believe in it, don't you know they don't know, you know, they they don't have confidence in it. Back when I was working for the state as the DEP, as the DE, the state DEC deputy commissioner, um we were for our purposes in DEC using um numbers for sea level projections that were uh projected by Columbia. Um and um and the office uh and the governor's office of storm recovery were using numbers that were generated by my alma mater um Stony Brook University, uh their uh department of you know, marine, oh god, senior moment, uh Department of uh SOMAS School of Marine and Atmospheric Sciences, and um you know, their high-end estimates for sea level rise by X date, whatever it was, or half of what the Columbia projections were. And so I raised the point with the commission of DEC and state government at large. People see state government as kind of like one entity, and we have two sets of books for sea level rise. So if you're at the governor's office of storm recovery, you're seeing the high-end estimate of like X. And if you look at Columbia's number, the high end X uh high-end estimate was 2x. And so we shouldn't have two sets of books, and this is why people lose confidence in you know climate forecasting and sea level rise projections. Um because they're like personalities of you know, the one who was doing it at Stonybrook was uh he was a Nobel laureate. Um, and he's very strict in terms of we don't know something until we know it. And so if we don't know it, it's not going in the calculus for the projections. We could be wrong. We can end up there could be things that we don't know, factors that we don't really that we think are out there, but we haven't really studied them enough that like they're not going in the um projections. We're gonna be conservative. And whereas some other entities are like, well, you have to bill in a little little bit of a fudge factor because nature always has something out there that we don't yet know. So let's use the Ouija board and try to fit it in somehow uh to account in our current projections that which we don't fully know yet. And so as a scientist, it's always like kind of annoyed me. And so that's two minutes of your life. You can't get back.

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