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NYC Council Civil Service & Labor Committee Oversight: Municipal Retention Strategies - October 16, 2026

City Council — Friday, October 16, 2026
BodyNew York City, New York
SessionCity Council
DateFriday, October 16, 2026
StatusFILED
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Speaker 1

0:02

Good morning and welcome to the New York City Council Committee hearing for the civil and civil service on labor.

0:12

This time, please put all devices on silent going forward and the one who's to approach the day.

0:17

If you wish to testify or have any questions, please see one of the sergeant at arms at the back of the room or the reception desk.

0:24

Chair, you may begin.

Speaker 2

0:27

Good morning and welcome to today's hearing of the New York City Council's Committee on Civil Service and Labor.

0:33

I'm Councilmember Shirley Al Debol, Chair of this committee.

0:37

Today we will be holding the second in a series of hearings about the New York City Municipal Workforce.

0:43

Last month we held an oversight hearing on municipal recruitment and pathways into the civil service.

0:50

And today we will be focusing on civil service retention strategies.

0:54

New York City's municipal workforce is the backbone of the city, and municipal workers provide vital services that keep New Yorkers safe and healthy and keep daily operations running smoothly.

1:07

Yet, in the 2025 fiscal year, over 32,000 individuals departed the city's workforce, begging the question of what factors are driving attrition at such a pace.

1:19

Studies and reports from the municipal research and service services center and the National League of Cities have found that key retention strategies for municipal workforces are not so different from those in private sector.

1:32

Employees seek work-life balance, stability, career development, and advancement pathways, and competitive compensation and benefits.

1:42

Responses to DCAS's exit survey indicate that resignations are continuing to significantly outpace retirement.

1:50

And over a quarter of resigning employees cite a lack of career advancement opportunities as this main driver for leaving.

1:58

Moreover, when employees were asked to make recommendations for how to improve the employee experience, the most common requests were for increased pay, improved communication and transparency from management to staff, and to address staffing vacancies to better distribute workload.

2:16

It is also notable that 54% of respondents of the city's employee viewpoint survey indicated that they would consider taking a job elsewhere if it offered greater flexibility for remote work options.

2:30

Given that city employees have shared the specific factors that not only lead them to depart, but that could lead them to remain in civil service.

2:37

This committee is interested to see what actions the administration plans to take to reduce attrition and retain dedicated civil servants.

Unassigned speaker

2:46

The

Speaker 2

2:46

Mamdani administration has launched several initiatives that make working for the city more attractive and more sustainable, including Little Apple Free Child Care Center for City Employees and an expansion of the mayor's scholarship program for municipal workers.

3:03

We were also glad to hear last week that Mayor Mamdani has formed a task force in partnership with organized labor to make recommendations to the state on how to modernize the civil service and speed up the hiring process.

3:19

As we heard last month, lengthy timelines at every step of the civil service hiring process paired with procedures that haven't been updated in decades, frustrate civil service hiring and cost the city highly qualified potential employees who simply cannot wait around for a job.

3:37

We are heartened by these endeavors and the seriousness with which this administration is taking civil service reform.

3:43

And today we look forward to learning more about how we can work with this administration to ensure that the municipal workforce remains an attractive career path.

3:53

Before we begin, I'd like to thank committee staff, senior legislative council, Rie Ogasawara, and senior policy analyst Nina Rosenberg for their hard work in preparing for this hearing.

4:06

I'd also like to thank my chief of staff, Sophia Brown, and my whole district 13 team for the work that you do to serve our bronx constituents.

4:15

At this point, I would like to recognize that we have been joined by Council members Narcis and Councilmember Hudson.

4:26

Oh,

Unassigned speaker

4:27

I

Speaker 2

4:27

didn't see you were hiding.

4:30

Councilmember Morano.

4:35

So now we will hear testimony from representatives of DCAS and OLR.

4:40

I now turn to committee council to administer the oath for this panel.

Unassigned speaker

4:57

Good

Speaker 3

4:57

morning.

Unassigned speaker

4:58

We will now hear testimony from the administration.

Speaker 3

5:00

Before we begin, I will administer the affirmation.

5:02

Panelists, please raise your right hand.

5:04

I will read the affirmation once, then call on each of you individually to respond.

Unassigned speaker

5:08

Do

Speaker 3

5:08

you affirm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth before this committee and to respond honestly to council member questions?

Unassigned speaker

5:16

Yes.

Speaker 3

5:17

Thank

Unassigned speaker

5:18

you.

Unassigned speaker

5:29

Good

Katrina Porter · Speaker 4Inferred

5:29

morning, Chair Aldeball and members of the city's council's committee on civil service and labor.

5:34

My name is Katrina Porter, and I proudly serve as Deputy Commissioner and Chief Human Capital Officer at the Department of Administrative Services, more commonly known as DCAS.

5:45

I'm joined today by my colleague Katie Ann Otar, Assistant Commissioner for Workforce Operations at DCAS, and Dan Pollock, first deputy commissioner for the Office of Labor Relations.

5:56

We thank you all for inviting us to appear today and to speak on our efforts to bolster retention and support our city's workforce.

6:05

At DCAST, our mission is to make city government work for all New Yorkers, and that includes ensuring that our municipal workforce knows that we are working for them too.

6:15

When our city employees have access to resources that improve their quality of life, from child care to career development and advancement, all the way through retirement planning, we are fostering an environment where staff can grow, grow their families, grow professionally, and grow even more committed to delivering for New Yorkers.

6:35

Just a few weeks into this administration, Mayor Mamdani announced the expansion of the city's first free child care center for municipal employees.

6:45

And within months, we cut the ribbon and opened the doors of the David N.

6:50

Dinkins Municipal Building for the first barrel of Little Apples.

6:54

The Little Apple is a testament to the city's commitment to expanding access to free child care.

6:59

As we all know, child care in New York City can be expensive.

7:03

Through this program, the city is putting up to 20,000 back into the pockets of working municipal families.

7:10

The very families we are supporting who are supporting government operations each day.

7:16

Part and parcel to our work to increase employee retention are our opportunities for educational and professional advancement, areas where we have been excited to expand in recent months.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Personnel Matters███████████████████████████████████████39%
Civil Service Reform█████████████████████21%
Workforce Development████████████████████20%
Procedural████████8%
Child Care████4%
Labor and Workforce Development███3%
Mental Health Awareness██2%
Higher Education█1%
Affordable Housing█1%
Summary of Proceedings

NYC Council Civil Service & Labor Committee Oversight: Municipal Retention Strategies - October 16, 2026

On Friday, October 16, 2026, the New York City Council Committee on Civil Service and Labor, chaired by Councilmember Shirley Aldebol, held an oversight hearing examining municipal retention strategies. The hearing featured testimony from the Department of Citywide Administrative Services (DCAS), the Office of Labor Relations (OLR), and public witnesses. Key topics included the city's 85% retention rate, a 3.8% vacancy rate, the departure of over 32,000 employees in FY2025, and initiatives to improve career development, benefits communication, and workplace culture.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Rose Lavaglio-Miller, Associate Executive Director of District Council 37 (DC 37), representing over 90,000 municipal workers, expressed that the city focuses heavily on recruitment but not enough on retention. She noted that many employees are unaware of available benefits, that wage increases (16.21% over five years) have been outpaced by inflation (21% in the metro area), and that affordable housing remains a critical issue. She called for a municipal housing program, opposed reclassifying competitive titles to non-competitive (which reduces leave rights), and urged a genuine partnership with labor.
  • Catherine Vaughan, Co-founder and Co-Executive Director of Abundance New York, highlighted that 60% of resigning employees in FY2024 had served less than five years, and turnover is acute in frontline roles (e.g., 295 child protective specialists resigned from ACS in FY2025). She proposed four priorities: (1) retain employees through the first five years; (2) recognize that paying to retain costs less than replacing (citing EMS: training a new EMT costs ~$42,000, and overtime grew 40% as attrition increased); (3) plan for predictable departures; and (4) improve data transparency by publishing vacancy/attrition data by title and agency, and by creating agency dashboards.
  • Matthew Lee, a legislative fellow for Councilmember Narcisse, noted that early turnover and lack of benefit awareness are key issues. He suggested simple, tangible benefits like free transit access for city employees could improve retention and morale.

Discussion Items

  • DCAS Testimony (Katrina Porter, Deputy Commissioner): Reported an 85% retention rate (similar to NY State and federal government), median employee tenure of 9 years (three times the private sector), and a 3.8% vacancy rate (down from 8.4% in 2021). Highlighted initiatives: Little Apple free child care center (40 slots, 37-family waitlist, vendor-operated), Mayor's Scholarship expansion (91 applicants from 21 agencies for undergraduate programs), NYC Learn training platform (20,000+ participants, up from 13,000), citywide employee viewpoint survey (16,000 responses, 10% response rate among 169,000 non-DOE/H+H employees), and exit survey programs. Noted that career development is the top reason for departure among employees with 0-4 years of service.
  • OLR Testimony (Dan Pollock): Described collective bargaining achievements: 16% wage increases over five years, flexible work pilot (extended through June 2027), and equity funding to target high-attrition titles (e.g., lifeguards, 911 operators, caseworkers, school safety agents). Noted that benefits include health plans (new NICE PPO), WorkWell NYC wellness program (60,000+ participants), and Employee Assistance Program (EAP). Acknowledged the need to improve communication about benefits and noted the recent creation of an OLR communications division.
  • Councilmember Questions: Included inquiries about survey participation rates, breakdown of retention by agency, training cost transparency (courses up to $1,900, paid by agencies, not employees), effectiveness of outreach, promotional exam scheduling (data-driven, not influenced by OMB budget cycles), exit survey response rates (only 80% of departures were resignations in FY25, up from 71% in FY24), work-life balance (35% of employees felt emotionally drained), the pay equity analysis (vendor contracted, first report due May 7, 2027), and the Civil Service Modernization Advisory Committee (convened two meetings, recommendations due by end of 2026).
  • Municipal Housing: Both DC 37 and councilmembers raised the lack of affordable housing as a major retention barrier, particularly for employees with a two-year residency requirement. DCAS noted the child care pilot as a step but acknowledged housing is not within its direct purview.

Key Outcomes

  • The hearing was held as an oversight session, with no votes taken.
  • The committee filed the oversight (T2026-2618) as recorded in the minutes.
  • Chair Aldebol committed to following up with DCAS on specific data requests (retention rates by agency, exit survey completion rates, employee training participation by title, and the number of employees who have “availed themselves” of wellness programs).
  • Councilmembers expressed interest in legislative solutions to improve data transparency (e.g., mandating agency dashboards) and to support civil service modernization efforts. A briefing from the Civil Service Modernization Advisory Committee was requested.
  • Public testimony was officially entered into the record, with the option for written submissions within 72 hours.

Meeting Transcript

Good morning and welcome to the New York City Council Committee hearing for the civil and civil service on labor. This time, please put all devices on silent going forward and the one who's to approach the day. If you wish to testify or have any questions, please see one of the sergeant at arms at the back of the room or the reception desk. Chair, you may begin. Good morning and welcome to today's hearing of the New York City Council's Committee on Civil Service and Labor. I'm Councilmember Shirley Al Debol, Chair of this committee. Today we will be holding the second in a series of hearings about the New York City Municipal Workforce. Last month we held an oversight hearing on municipal recruitment and pathways into the civil service. And today we will be focusing on civil service retention strategies. New York City's municipal workforce is the backbone of the city, and municipal workers provide vital services that keep New Yorkers safe and healthy and keep daily operations running smoothly. Yet, in the 2025 fiscal year, over 32,000 individuals departed the city's workforce, begging the question of what factors are driving attrition at such a pace. Studies and reports from the municipal research and service services center and the National League of Cities have found that key retention strategies for municipal workforces are not so different from those in private sector. Employees seek work-life balance, stability, career development, and advancement pathways, and competitive compensation and benefits. Responses to DCAS's exit survey indicate that resignations are continuing to significantly outpace retirement. And over a quarter of resigning employees cite a lack of career advancement opportunities as this main driver for leaving. Moreover, when employees were asked to make recommendations for how to improve the employee experience, the most common requests were for increased pay, improved communication and transparency from management to staff, and to address staffing vacancies to better distribute workload. It is also notable that 54% of respondents of the city's employee viewpoint survey indicated that they would consider taking a job elsewhere if it offered greater flexibility for remote work options. Given that city employees have shared the specific factors that not only lead them to depart, but that could lead them to remain in civil service. This committee is interested to see what actions the administration plans to take to reduce attrition and retain dedicated civil servants. The Mamdani administration has launched several initiatives that make working for the city more attractive and more sustainable, including Little Apple Free Child Care Center for City Employees and an expansion of the mayor's scholarship program for municipal workers. We were also glad to hear last week that Mayor Mamdani has formed a task force in partnership with organized labor to make recommendations to the state on how to modernize the civil service and speed up the hiring process. As we heard last month, lengthy timelines at every step of the civil service hiring process paired with procedures that haven't been updated in decades, frustrate civil service hiring and cost the city highly qualified potential employees who simply cannot wait around for a job. We are heartened by these endeavors and the seriousness with which this administration is taking civil service reform. And today we look forward to learning more about how we can work with this administration to ensure that the municipal workforce remains an attractive career path. Before we begin, I'd like to thank committee staff, senior legislative council, Rie Ogasawara, and senior policy analyst Nina Rosenberg for their hard work in preparing for this hearing. I'd also like to thank my chief of staff, Sophia Brown, and my whole district 13 team for the work that you do to serve our bronx constituents. At this point, I would like to recognize that we have been joined by Council members Narcis and Councilmember Hudson. Oh, I didn't see you were hiding. Councilmember Morano. So now we will hear testimony from representatives of DCAS and OLR. I now turn to committee council to administer the oath for this panel. Good morning. We will now hear testimony from the administration. Before we begin, I will administer the affirmation. Panelists, please raise your right hand. I will read the affirmation once, then call on each of you individually to respond. Do you affirm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth before this committee and to respond honestly to council member questions? Yes. Thank you. Good morning, Chair Aldeball and members of the city's council's committee on civil service and labor. My name is Katrina Porter, and I proudly serve as Deputy Commissioner and Chief Human Capital Officer at the Department of Administrative Services, more commonly known as DCAS. I'm joined today by my colleague Katie Ann Otar, Assistant Commissioner for Workforce Operations at DCAS, and Dan Pollock, first deputy commissioner for the Office of Labor Relations. We thank you all for inviting us to appear today and to speak on our efforts to bolster retention and support our city's workforce.

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