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On October 27, 2026, the New York City Council Committees on Aging (Chair Susan Zhuang) and Public Housing (Chair Chris Banks) held a joint oversight hearing to examine the conditions of Older Adult Centers (OACs) located in New York City Housing Authority (NYCHA) facilities, and to hear testimony on Introduction 1083, which would require financial literacy advisors in OACs. The hearing featured testimony from two panels of OAC provider representatives, an administration panel of NYC Department for the Aging (DFTA) Commissioner Dr. Lisa Scott McKenzie and NYCHA Chief Operating Officer Eva Trimble, and public testimony. A central theme was the breakdown in communication and unclear division of maintenance responsibilities between NYCHA, DFTA, and OAC providers, exacerbated by aging infrastructure and the RAD/PACT conversion process.
Okay. Start. This hearing is called order. And out. Good morning and welcome to next council hearing on committee on public safety joint with agents. At this time we're asking everyone to sign all electronic devices. And at no point in time, no one should approach it. If you do which testify today's hearing and have the appearance card, please just look at it at the back or at the reception table. Thank you. And we know we have a tradition. Start this year. We're gonna have a picture showing some situation in all the senior centers. Unfortunately, we are not able to get new pictures. A lot of senior centers are afraid to submit the pictures. Um that's still ongoing issues. Okay, good morning. I'm council member Susan Zwang, chair of the New York City Council's Committee on Aging. I want to thank you all for being here today for this important oversight hearing on other adults, seniors, older adult centers in NYCHA facilities. I want to thank my co-chair, council member banks of the committee of public housing for agreeing to hold this hearing with me for thousands of other adults in New York City. Older adult centers or OACs provide vital services. Provide a sense of community and promote physical and mental well-being. Beyond that, the delegated staff and caseworkers employed at OACs assist older adults in assisting services, provide education on DTF and other abuse, and they ensure that each other adults they work will equip equipped with knowledge they need to live safely and securely. However, OACs face a number of unique challenges. When things break, when aging infrastructure finally begin to fail, repairs can often take substantial time. In that time, OACs may struggle to provide services older adults rely on. If they are able to remain open at all, and for OACs that operate in NYCHA property, this issue especially accurate. I know NACHA has long-standing infrastructure challenges, which I'm sure my co-chair will touch on. These issues often extend to the facility provided by NACHE to OAC providers, leaking roof, failing pipe, failing HVAC system, or even fire panel, which are not maintained. All those issues cause disruption, and extremely cases can even present a direct threat to service recipient safety. OAC providers have told us when those issues rise, the process for addressing this issue addressing them is unclear. The division of labor between NACHE and DIFTA is blurry. And that they are sometimes left to deal with those issues, such as damage from burst pipe on their own through. They have to do their own fundraising. Furthermore, OAC providers can even find themselves facing fines from agencies like FDNY because failing infrastructure, which they are often not allowed to repair on their own, has left their facility fundamentally unsafe. And that is a big issue. I'm sure we can all agree that an OAC provider should never be struggled on an old court, on old court hearing because NYCHA and DIFTA have not remained a critical infrastructure fake failure. We are here today to provide clarification for OAC provider located in NATO facility on the process for getting those such needed repairs and to hear from agencies themselves where collaboration has failed, where this is working, and what improvement can be need to be made. The council and the committees look forward to here hearing how we can assist the agency in clear whatever hurdles they are facing, and I want to thank both Commissioner Dr. Lisa Scott McKinsey and the Chief Operator Officer Eva Trimble for being here today. Before I pass a mic to my co-chair, I also want to highlight the bill we are hearing today. Sponsored by Councilmember Hudson could require commissioner of eight commissioner of agent to designate at least one financial literacy advisor to serve in each OAC for at least 20 hours a month. This advisor would provide older adults general information about financial literacy and the life preparation, tax preparation, and how to avoid and handle legal issues and a scam, which can only affect older adults. This is often overlooked the issue, and I want to thank my colleague, Councilmember Hudson, for her leadership on this issue. Marguerite Bursley and Kobe Porter for their work in preparing for today's hearing. If I'm mispronounced anyone's name wrong, please forgive me. I would also like to recognize the following council members who have joined here today. Councilmember Anna Sun and Canarsi and Councilmember