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Norman City Council Meeting Summary - November 13, 2025

Public Meetings & Live-StreamsThursday, November 13, 2025
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DateThursday, November 13, 2025
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11:00

At 535, I will call the meeting to order.

11:03

Could I please have a roll call?

11:05

Commissioner Brewer.

11:07

Commissioner McDaniel.

11:09

Commissioner McCowan.

11:11

Here.

11:12

Commissioner Jablonsky.

11:15

Commissioner Byrd.

11:16

Here.

11:16

Commissioner McClure.

11:18

Commissioner Griffith?

11:20

Here.

11:20

Commissioner Kindle.

11:22

Here.

11:22

And Commissioner Parker.

11:24

Here.

11:24

We have a quorum.

11:25

Starting with our consent docket.

11:27

Item number one, consideration of approval, acceptance, rejection amendment, and or postponement of the minutes as follow, planning commission meeting minutes of October 9th, 2025.

11:38

I would like to request to remove item number two from the uh consent items.

11:45

Is there any other items commission wish to remove from the consent docket?

11:50

Seeing none, I would take a motion on the remaining consent docket for item number one, the minutes.

11:57

Move to approve item one of the consent pack packet.

12:01

Second.

12:02

And a vote.

12:21

We've got an inactive.

12:23

I'm having a remove the people that aren't here.

12:32

I know I used to view me expectative.

12:41

You may vote.

12:51

Moving to item number two.

12:53

Uh can this item has a correction to the titling, changing two hundred and twenty-nine point nine two feet to three hundred and twenty-nine point nine two feet read together.

13:04

Consideration of approval acceptance, rejection amendment and/or postponement of COS-2526-4 with a variance in the minimum width requirement measured at the front building setback from 330 feet to 329.92 feet for tracks one through four and a variance in the 10 acres requirements from 10 acres to 9.980 acres.

13:43

And one quarter of a mile north of Bethel Road, Ward 5.

13:47

Are there any presentations from staff that they'd like to make?

13:51

I know this was on consent docket prior.

13:55

Seeing none and any applicant comments.

14:13

Seeing none, I would take a motion.

14:17

Move to approve item two with the typo correction.

14:23

Second.

14:35

Moving to item number three, consideration of approval, acceptance, rejection amendment, and/or postponement of ordinance 0-2526-14, an ordinance of the council of the City of Norman, Oklahoma, amending section 36-201 of the code of the City of Norman, so as to remove part of the Northeast Corridor of Section 6, Township 8, North Range 2, West to Norman, from the R1 single family dwelling district and place the same in SPUD simple planned unit development and providing for the severability thereof.

15:05

1107 and 1111 South Chautauqua Avenue, Board 7.

15:10

And we would take a staff presentation.

15:19

Hello, Adjust and Fidget the Planning Department assay.

15:22

The developer is proposing a three-story microunit apartment building with 24 units.

15:26

The site will feature a parking area for approximately 21 parking spots and five bicycle racks for the residents.

15:32

To achieve this design, the applicant has requested to rezone the R1 single family dwelling district to SPUD simple planned unit development.

15:40

These are the existing zonings.

16:12

And a location map of the site.

16:30

Staff did receive a protest for this development.

16:35

The protest map that was submitted to the city, however, only had we only had enough information available to uh verify one of the protests we submitted.

16:43

So that is the one you are seeing on the map presented here with a protest of 3.4% of the notification area.

16:54

The proposed development is consistent with the AIM Norman Commerce of Len use plan because it proposes connections to the city utilities, encouragement of multimodal transportation methods, and residential structures with a gross density greater than eight units per acre.

17:07

However, the development is inconsistent in that it proposes setbacks are not typically found in the surrounding zoning districts.

17:13

Staffords have requested plan commission for consideration and recommendation to city council.

17:17

The applicant is present and has a presentation for the Planning Commission.

17:23

Thank you.

17:23

Any question by commissioners of staff?

17:30

Can you clarify for me the property just to the north?

17:36

Is it what is is that R1, R3?

17:38

I in a protest letter, it was referenced as something different than what it was called out.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Zoning And Land Use█████████████████████████████████████████████63%
Procedural███████10%
Land Use Planning██████8%
Community Engagement███4%
Public Safety███4%
Public Engagement███4%
Affordable Housing██3%
Historic Preservation1%
Legal Issues1%
Summary of Proceedings

Norman City Council Meeting Summary - November 13, 2025

The City of Norman Planning Commission convened to review various zoning amendments, rezoning applications, and code updates, primarily focusing on implementing the newly adopted AIM Norman 2045 comprehensive plan while addressing housing density, enforcement mechanisms, and neighborhood character concerns.

Consent Calendar

  • Minutes: Approval of the Planning Commission meeting minutes from October 9th, 2025 (Item 1) was approved after an inactive commissioner was removed from the vote count.
  • Variance (COS-2526-4): Approval granted with a typo correction in the title, changing a measurement from "229.92 feet" to "329.92 feet". The variance adjusts the minimum width requirement from 330 feet to 329.92 feet and the 10-acre requirement to 9.980 acres for a site in Ward 5.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Michelle Kaufman: Expressed strong opposition to the micro-unit apartment project at 1107/1111 Chautauqua Ave. She argued the development would quadruple traffic and noise, destroy the "quaint" character of the Hoover/Chautauqua neighborhood, and create parking shortages for residents.
  • David Harper: Stated he has lived in the area for 40 years and expressed concern that the proposed density conflicts with the "three unrelated persons" rule, which was historically implemented to prevent rental conversions, and noted the area has become a speed zone.
  • Robert Bruce: Expressed concern regarding property rights and the change in neighborhood character for homeowners who bought in R1 zones, arguing that rezoning negatively impacts their "quiet enjoyment."
  • Mary Elizabeth LeBlanc: Identified as a licensed massage therapist and AMTA Oklahoma chapter GR chair. She expressed that law enforcement has approached the issue "the wrong way" without consulting legitimate therapists, citing specific anatomical concerns in the proposed ordinance language.
  • Kaylee Winchester: A licensed massage therapist with 15 years of experience in Oklahoma. She expressed concern that the proposed zoning and licensing language was confusing for legitimate businesses working under medical supervision and that the term "parlor" is outdated and unprofessional.
  • Bill Swain: Raised engineering concerns regarding drainage, erosion, and the negative impacts of "leapfrog development" that releases water runoff onto protected pasture land rather than urban drainage systems.
  • Mike Brule: Lived near the proposed Sterling Fields development. He expressed concern over erosion on terraced land used for cattle, the shallow gas line crossing the property, and the impact of 59 new septic systems on the watershed.
  • Steve Lemke: Strongly supported the AIM 2045 plan and argued that the Sterling Fields subdivision is premature, constitutes leapfrog development, and undermines the city's long-term growth framework.
  • Brandon Nofire: Opposed the Sterling Fields project, highlighting the lack of city utilities (requiring 59 wells/septic systems) and noting the proposal is incongruous with the surrounding rural area.
  • Carlinda Gravel: Expressed opposition to the proposed removal of the "three unrelated persons" limit. She argued it would lead to overcrowding, increase housing turnover to rental investors, and potentially create safety hazards, stating she fears a "roller coaster" effect in neighborhoods.
  • Cheryland Dawson Densao: Opposed the ordinance change, warning it could facilitate human trafficking and create unmanageable overcrowding, stating "nothing good comes from stuffing more people in a dwelling."
  • Elaine Boyd: Expressed concern over a neighbor converting a property into a multi-occupant rental with an accessory dwelling unit (ADU), citing drainage issues from increased concrete and the impact on the historic district's character.
  • Trent Baggett: Retired prosecutor who argued that the city should not remove the ordinance simply because enforcement is difficult; he suggested the city should work harder to enforce existing laws rather than repeal them.
  • Rick Pollen: Opposed the removal of the restriction, arguing that R1 zones are meant for single-family residences and that the current rule provides a necessary barrier against large-scale rentals to unrelated individuals.
  • Steve Ladner (Read by Commissioner): Submitted written comments regarding the conversion of single-family homes into rental properties for sorority girls in the 500 block of South Lahoma, warning that lifting restrictions accelerates the loss of long-term residents.
  • Post-Meeting Comments: Carlinda Gravel and Cheryland Dawson Densao offered general kudos and warnings to the commission about maintaining community standards and avoiding "slippery slopes" in neighborhood preservation.

Discussion Items

  • Item 2 (Micro-Unit Rezoning): Staff presented a proposal to rezone R1 to SPUD for a 3-story micro-unit building (24 units, 21 parking spots). The applicant, Matt Peacock, argued the project aligns with the AIM 2045 "Urban Medium" designation and targets young professionals rather than students. Staff noted it is inconsistent with typical surrounding setbacks. Commissioners questioned the density definition (medium vs. high) and parking viability. Commissioner Brewer expressed support for the micro-units and affordable housing goals, viewing them as quiet and suitable for the area. Commissioner McClure expressed concern that the 24 units represent a high-density max for an "Urban Medium" area, arguing for a transition rather than an abrupt jump to maximum density. Commissioner Kindle noted the project is conformance with the land-use plan but personally favored a lower unit count to allow for flexibility and neighborly compatibility. The applicant clarified that while 24 units were chosen to avoid the high cost of single kitchens per unit (student style), reducing units might force a return to larger units.
  • Item 4 (Massage Therapy Ordinance): Staff proposed removing outdated definitions of "massage parlor" and "sexual encounter center" from the zoning code and adding licensing requirements to combat human trafficking and prostitution. The applicant, City Legal, explained the ordinance responds to police data showing hundreds of ads for illegal operations. Licensed massage therapists in the audience expressed concern that the language was gendered, medically ambiguous regarding anatomy (e.g., piriformis), and lacked input from legitimate therapists. Staff clarified that enforcement mechanisms are necessary as state law only regulates therapists, not establishments, and that the "three unrelated" language removal is not the focus of the zoning vote, which is to delete the problematic definitions.
  • Items 5 & 6 (Liberty Point PUD Amendment): The applicant proposed amending an existing PUD to add approximately 334 multifamily residential units and reconfigure commercial space. Staff and the applicant confirmed the project aligns with AIM 2045. A commissioner noted that the site has only one egress, which meets code but is less than the standard for larger developments. No public comments were recorded. Commissioner Parker noted the engineering meets code.
  • Items 7, 8, & 9 (Sterling Fields / Urban Reserve): Staff and the applicant proposed amending the AIM 2045 land use plan from Urban Reserve/Low to Urban Low and rezoning to PUD for 59 lots of 3/4 acre each on the edge of the rural/urban boundary. The applicant argued for flexibility to create a "missing middle" of large-lot housing not currently available under AIM. Opposing public commenters and commissioners argued this constitutes premature leapfrog development, threatens the watershed with private septic systems, and ignores the intentional topography-based boundaries of the Urban Reserve designation. Commissioners expressed significant hesitation, stating the project is not yet ready and undermines the AIM plan's intent to protect the watershed and allow sequential growth.
  • Item 10 (SPUD Amendment): The applicant requested to remove commercial ground floor allowances from a previously approved SPUD near the university, converting the entire building to residential. Staff confirmed the density remains unchanged. The applicant clarified the project is not in the Center City Form Based Code area. No opposition was recorded.
  • Item 11 (Unrelated Persons Ordinance): Staff proposed removing the "three unrelated persons" limit from the definition of a family in the zoning code, citing unenforceability and the difficulty of proving familial relations. The applicant (Staff) explained that 19 complaints were closed due to insufficient evidence in 2023, and that the rule prevents affordable housing options for young professionals and non-family roommates. Commissioners opposed to the change argued it removes a necessary complaint mechanism and creates a slippery slope for overcrowding. Commissioners in support argued the rule is unenforceable, creates neighborhood conflict, and hinders affordable housing for graduates and working professionals. The discussion highlighted that while the rule is unenforceable, it currently provides a legal basis for complaints that could be lost without replacement strategies.

Key Outcomes

  • Item 1 (Minutes): Approved unanimously.
  • Item 2 (Micro-Unit SPUD): Approved by a vote of 6 to 1. Commissioner McClure voted against, citing concerns about the density level being too high for an Urban Medium zone.
  • Item 4 (Massage Ordinance): Approved by a vote of 7 to 0. The commission moved forward with the ordinance amendments to remove problematic definitions, pending further input from massage therapists before final council action.
  • Items 5 & 6 (Liberty Point): Approved by a vote of 7 to 0.
  • Items 7, 8, & 9 (Sterling Fields): Motion to Reject approved by a vote of 7 to 0. The commission denied the rezoning and land use amendment, citing premature development and watershed protection concerns.
  • Item 10 (SPUD Amendment): Approved by a vote of 7 to 0.
  • Item 11 (Unrelated Persons): Approved by a vote of 6 to 1. The commission voted to remove the "three unrelated persons" language from the code definition of family. Commissioner Kindle voted against, citing concerns over enforcement mechanisms and potential overcrowding.
  • Items 12 & 13 (Class & Boulevard): Postponed to the December 11, 2025 Planning Commission meeting by unanimous voice vote.
  • Item 14 (Sorority House): Postponed to the December 11, 2025 Planning Commission meeting by unanimous voice vote.

Next Steps:

  • Staff will organize a meeting with massage therapy professionals to review ordinance language for Items 4 before it goes to City Council.
  • The City Council will hold a subsequent meeting on December 2nd to discuss the massage therapy ordinance.
  • Items 12, 13, and 14 are rescheduled for the December 11, 2025, Planning Commission meeting.

Meeting Transcript

At 535, I will call the meeting to order. Could I please have a roll call? Commissioner Brewer. Commissioner McDaniel. Commissioner McCowan. Here. Commissioner Jablonsky. Commissioner Byrd. Here. Commissioner McClure. Commissioner Griffith? Here. Commissioner Kindle. Here. And Commissioner Parker. Here. We have a quorum. Starting with our consent docket. Item number one, consideration of approval, acceptance, rejection amendment, and or postponement of the minutes as follow, planning commission meeting minutes of October 9th, 2025. I would like to request to remove item number two from the uh consent items. Is there any other items commission wish to remove from the consent docket? Seeing none, I would take a motion on the remaining consent docket for item number one, the minutes. Move to approve item one of the consent pack packet. Second. And a vote. We've got an inactive. I'm having a remove the people that aren't here. I know I used to view me expectative. You may vote. Moving to item number two. Uh can this item has a correction to the titling, changing two hundred and twenty-nine point nine two feet to three hundred and twenty-nine point nine two feet read together. Consideration of approval acceptance, rejection amendment and/or postponement of COS-2526-4 with a variance in the minimum width requirement measured at the front building setback from 330 feet to 329.92 feet for tracks one through four and a variance in the 10 acres requirements from 10 acres to 9.980 acres. And one quarter of a mile north of Bethel Road, Ward 5. Are there any presentations from staff that they'd like to make? I know this was on consent docket prior. Seeing none and any applicant comments. Seeing none, I would take a motion. Move to approve item two with the typo correction. Second. Moving to item number three, consideration of approval, acceptance, rejection amendment, and/or postponement of ordinance 0-2526-14, an ordinance of the council of the City of Norman, Oklahoma, amending section 36-201 of the code of the City of Norman, so as to remove part of the Northeast Corridor of Section 6, Township 8, North Range 2, West to Norman, from the R1 single family dwelling district and place the same in SPUD simple planned unit development and providing for the severability thereof. 1107 and 1111 South Chautauqua Avenue, Board 7. And we would take a staff presentation. Hello, Adjust and Fidget the Planning Department assay. The developer is proposing a three-story microunit apartment building with 24 units. The site will feature a parking area for approximately 21 parking spots and five bicycle racks for the residents. To achieve this design, the applicant has requested to rezone the R1 single family dwelling district to SPUD simple planned unit development. These are the existing zonings. And a location map of the site. Staff did receive a protest for this development. The protest map that was submitted to the city, however, only had we only had enough information available to uh verify one of the protests we submitted.

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