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Record of Proceedings

Olympia Salary Commission Meeting – June 5, 2026

City Council & CommissionsFriday, June 5, 2026
BodyOlympia, Washington
SessionCity Council & Commissions
DateFriday, June 5, 2026
StatusFILED
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Transcript — Verbatim
0:00

Get to order.

0:02

We will um we will hope that Dylan can join us.

0:08

Um so do we need to do a roll call or can we do a quick round of introductions instead?

0:15

I think that would suffice.

0:17

So I'm I'm your chair Karen Messmer, and I'll pass it to Aaron to introduce herself.

0:26

Hi, Erin Clicker.

0:28

Um I don't know how much information we want to share, but uh nice to meet everybody.

0:33

I mean, I know most of you, but Paul, nice to meet you.

0:38

I'm Quent.

0:40

Uh I'm a commercial broker with Green uh commercial on Olympia.

0:44

It's nice to meet you too, Paul.

0:46

Know everyone else.

0:48

Yeah, nice to meet you.

0:50

I don't know, did you get like a bio on me or anything like that?

0:53

Do you does it matter if you want?

0:55

Give us just give us a few words about yourself, Paul, so we know who's joining the group.

1:00

Okay, yeah, Paul Horton.

1:02

I've known Karen for a long time because I was involved in sort of energy and bicycle stuff and advocacy.

1:08

I used to run a couple nonprofits in town.

1:10

And um the last 13 years I've been a consultant with the Athena group, partner with the Athena group, and we do a lot of work in the public sector.

1:19

Um supporting cities like Lacey and Lympia and state agencies, things like that.

1:23

I've done quite a lot of work with the city over many years supporting them on their development of their the one community plan, the homeless response plan and the reimagining public safety plan, and more recently their equity workforce equity strategic plan.

1:38

Um right now you have no contracts with the city.

1:41

So that's that's me.

1:46

So Regina.

1:48

I Regina Adams.

1:50

I am a senior HR generalist, and I am here to run this meeting.

1:56

Manny's not able to uh visit today, so I'm the techie and the note taker.

2:04

Okay, and if our visitor from the JOEL would like to introduce themselves, they can, otherwise, we don't necessarily expect it.

2:16

Okay.

2:17

I think we've had them attend in the past, and that's fine.

2:20

So we'll call that roll call uh on our agenda.

2:24

And the next item on our agenda is approval of the agenda.

2:28

Um, I would like to suggest a change to the agenda, and that is to add um Aaron's uh think piece, I'll call it to become five B, which would be after we review the previous salary commission recommendations, and then move all the other items down.

2:51

Uh are there any other suggestions for or adjustments to the agenda that anyone would like to make?

3:05

Okay.

3:06

So I would entertain a motion to approve the agenda with the adjustments that I suggest.

3:17

You could say so moved, that's what you could say.

3:22

So moved.

3:23

So moved.

3:24

I didn't want to say anything because I'm the one who submitted the document.

3:27

So that's okay.

3:29

So I think did Paul say so moved?

3:33

So Aaron, if you want to if you want to.

3:35

And I can second it.

3:36

I couldn't unmute, so I'll second it.

3:38

Okay, so Paul moved and Quent seconded to approve the agenda, moving five moving Aaron's um considerations document as a topic to become 5B and moving the other ones down.

3:52

All those in five favor say aye.

3:57

I anyone opposed.

4:01

I think we had a unanimous vote on that.

4:04

Thank you.

4:06

So our next item is approval of the minutes from our February meeting.

4:12

And there are three of us here who were at that meeting, I believe.

4:17

And so uh are there any changes or adjustments to those minutes?

4:26

I don't have any.

4:28

I so I would entertain a motion to approve the minutes for the February 26th meeting.

4:39

Oh, actually, it says 25.

4:45

I think that was this year, correct?

4:49

Oh, oh, 25.

4:51

Yeah, yep.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Personnel Matters█████████████████████████████████████████████68%
Procedural███████████17%
Community Engagement█████████14%
Fiscal Sustainability1%
Summary of Proceedings

Olympia Salary Commission Meeting – June 5, 2026

The Olympia City Salary Commission met remotely on June 5, 2026, to begin its annual review of compensation for the city council and mayor. Commissioners discussed past approaches, the role of community input, and potential adjustments to salary and benefits. The group agreed to hold three additional meetings leading to a September recommendation.

Consent Calendar

  • Agenda Approval: The agenda was approved with an amendment to add Commissioner Clicker's community considerations document as item 5B. Moved by Paul Horton, seconded by Quent. Unanimous.
  • Minutes Approval: The minutes from the February 26, 2026 meeting were approved with a date correction. Moved by Aaron Clicker, seconded by Quent. Unanimous (three members present who attended that meeting).

Public Comments & Testimony

  • No public comments were received via Zoom or in writing.

Discussion Items

  • Review of Previous Salary Commission Recommendations: Commissioners reviewed past recommendations, noting a consistent approach of using COLA (cost-of-living adjustment) for unrepresented staff and adjusting for changes in medical benefits costs. The 2017 large increase was noted as a make-up year. Comparisons to similar-sized cities were used.
  • Community Considerations Document: Commissioner Clicker presented a document outlining what the commission does not know – community priorities, barriers to candidacy (income, family makeup, employment), and whether the current salary structure is inclusive. She suggested the commission could either note the lack of community input or seek to gather it through volunteer efforts, acknowledging resource constraints.
  • Discussion on Public Engagement: Paul Horton noted that thorough public engagement would be costly ($80–$150k) and time-consuming, but volunteer efforts could be possible. Quent expressed preference for data-driven approaches (comparative city data) and questioned whether barriers to diverse candidates exist, citing the diversity of recent councils. Karen Messmer argued that Olympia's complexity and the demanding nature of council work may create barriers, especially for single parents, and that the current pay is near the level of a maintenance worker. Aaron Clicker noted that many community members feel disempowered and that economic hardship makes a large salary increase difficult to justify this year.
  • Future Direction: Discussion included the possibility of a larger increase in benefits (health insurance) rather than base salary, phased increases over several years, and the need to gather updated data from the Office of Insurance Commissioner (OIC) on benefit cost changes.

Key Outcomes

  • Three Additional Meetings Scheduled: The commission will hold three more meetings before September 2026 to develop a recommendation. The first will hash out ideas with research, the second will produce a draft recommendation for public comment, and the third will finalize after public input.
  • Data Collection: Staff will obtain OIC data on medical benefit cost increases and update comparative salary data from similar cities. Commissioner Messmer requested a sortable version of the comparative city table.
  • Staff Action: Regina Adams will send doodle polls to schedule the future meetings, accommodating members' availability.
  • Next Steps: Commissioners will continue discussions based on updated data, with the goal of preparing a recommendation by the end of September 2026.

Meeting Transcript

Get to order. We will um we will hope that Dylan can join us. Um so do we need to do a roll call or can we do a quick round of introductions instead? I think that would suffice. So I'm I'm your chair Karen Messmer, and I'll pass it to Aaron to introduce herself. Hi, Erin Clicker. Um I don't know how much information we want to share, but uh nice to meet everybody. I mean, I know most of you, but Paul, nice to meet you. I'm Quent. Uh I'm a commercial broker with Green uh commercial on Olympia. It's nice to meet you too, Paul. Know everyone else. Yeah, nice to meet you. I don't know, did you get like a bio on me or anything like that? Do you does it matter if you want? Give us just give us a few words about yourself, Paul, so we know who's joining the group. Okay, yeah, Paul Horton. I've known Karen for a long time because I was involved in sort of energy and bicycle stuff and advocacy. I used to run a couple nonprofits in town. And um the last 13 years I've been a consultant with the Athena group, partner with the Athena group, and we do a lot of work in the public sector. Um supporting cities like Lacey and Lympia and state agencies, things like that. I've done quite a lot of work with the city over many years supporting them on their development of their the one community plan, the homeless response plan and the reimagining public safety plan, and more recently their equity workforce equity strategic plan. Um right now you have no contracts with the city. So that's that's me. So Regina. I Regina Adams. I am a senior HR generalist, and I am here to run this meeting. Manny's not able to uh visit today, so I'm the techie and the note taker. Okay, and if our visitor from the JOEL would like to introduce themselves, they can, otherwise, we don't necessarily expect it. Okay. I think we've had them attend in the past, and that's fine. So we'll call that roll call uh on our agenda. And the next item on our agenda is approval of the agenda. Um, I would like to suggest a change to the agenda, and that is to add um Aaron's uh think piece, I'll call it to become five B, which would be after we review the previous salary commission recommendations, and then move all the other items down. Uh are there any other suggestions for or adjustments to the agenda that anyone would like to make? Okay. So I would entertain a motion to approve the agenda with the adjustments that I suggest. You could say so moved, that's what you could say. So moved. So moved. I didn't want to say anything because I'm the one who submitted the document. So that's okay. So I think did Paul say so moved? So Aaron, if you want to if you want to. And I can second it. I couldn't unmute, so I'll second it. Okay, so Paul moved and Quent seconded to approve the agenda, moving five moving Aaron's um considerations document as a topic to become 5B and moving the other ones down. All those in five favor say aye. I anyone opposed. I think we had a unanimous vote on that.

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