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Pleasantville Village Board Work Session on Lead Service Line Inventory – May 31, 2025

Village Board of Trustees & Boards — Saturday, May 31, 2025
BodyPleasantville, New York
SessionVillage Board of Trustees & Boards
DateSaturday, May 31, 2025
StatusFILED
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Unassigned speaker

0:02

All

Speaker 1

0:02

right, welcome to the work session for Tuesday, May 27.

0:06

First and primary item on our work session is our DBW superintendent and village engineer Anthony Carr talking about the lead service line project.

0:17

Welcome, Anthony.

Speaker 2

0:19

Thank you, Mayor Board Eric.

0:21

I hope everybody had a nice memorial day.

0:23

Hopefully found some time to relax and unwind, especially with the next win.

0:28

So you got I am now a believer and converted into basketball.

0:32

So thank you, Mayor and Eric for that.

Speaker 1

0:34

All right.

0:35

Well, well, we got another one tonight.

0:37

I know.

0:40

They did.

Unassigned speaker

0:40

Okay.

Speaker 1

0:41

In crazy fashion.

0:43

It's sufficient.

0:44

Sufficient craziness that I was actually in bed and got up again and came downstairs.

0:50

All right.

0:51

All

Speaker 2

0:52

right.

0:52

Um, do you have a copy of the presentation that uh Eric that you could share the screen?

0:57

I have a copy in my hand, and I can go through slide by slide.

1:00

Uh, I plan to only give an overview of each slide.

1:03

Obviously, if you have any questions or you want to interrupt, please feel free.

1:07

Uh, some of the slides you probably have seen before.

1:10

You may not remember all the information.

1:12

Uh, there's been some changes to some slides, uh, but the purpose of tonight's update is just to provide the mayor, may you mayor and board and eric with just a brief update of what we've completed to date, uh, what we're working on now, and and steps to follow.

Speaker 1

1:26

All right, are you gonna share it, Eric?

1:28

I don't think I have that file.

1:29

Do I it should be attached to the work site?

1:31

I do not see that it

Speaker 3

1:32

is.

1:33

Oh, uh here, I will probably easier, but I want to just the cover page.

1:39

Thank you, Eric.

1:40

No problem.

Unassigned speaker

1:44

Or

Speaker 3

1:45

to use

Unassigned speaker

1:46

your

Speaker 4

1:46

emailing,

Speaker 3

1:47

yeah.

1:48

And I will also attach okay.

Unassigned speaker

2:18

All

Speaker 2

2:18

right, there we

Unassigned speaker

2:19

go.

Speaker 2

2:20

Okay, uh, mayor, we can skip past the uh the introduction slide and start on slide two.

2:27

Perfect.

2:28

And then when we provide we progress to the next slide, I'll just say next slide just so for everyone's awareness.

2:33

So you might have seen this before, you probably recall it, uh, but just high level.

2:37

That schematic is a diagram basically that delineates the public and private sides of a water service line, public being village owned, private being customer owned.

2:47

And that that delineation uh occurs at what you see in the diagram known as a curb stop or the municipal shutoff valve.

2:55

So if there's a problem with the interior, uh if there's an account that's in serious arrears, that curb stop or shut-off valve allows the the municipality to basically interrupt service for any amount of time.

3:07

Now they that is typically in every place in Westchester County at least.

3:12

Um, that is usually the delineator aside from the municipalities that give ownership, like Newcastle uh to the to the property owner.

3:21

When I say ownership, full ownership of the line, typically the curb stop is where the delineation is between private and public side, which is the very basically the very bane of the lead service line inventory's existence.

3:33

So you'll see terms public side, private side.

3:36

This is what that inventory is solely comprised of.

3:38

So it's important just to know which side of the fence that we're on.

3:42

So the village obviously we own from the main to the curb stop.

3:45

After that is privately owned.

Unassigned speaker

3:47

All

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Water And Wastewater Management█████████████████████████████████████████████76%
Public Engagement████7%
Procedural████7%
Environmental Protection██4%
Technology and Innovation██3%
Fiscal Sustainability██3%
Summary of Proceedings

Pleasantville Village Board Work Session on Lead Service Line Inventory – May 31, 2025

Village Engineer and Superintendent of Public Works Anthony Carr presented an update on the lead service line inventory program, including progress to date, next steps for predictive modeling, costs, and future replacement requirements. Board members and a trustee discussed the village’s proactive approach versus waiting for regulatory changes.

Discussion Items

  • Inventory status: As of May 2025, 24 lead service lines have been identified on the public side (village-owned from water main to curb stop) and 10 on the customer side (from curb stop into the house). Zero service lines have lead on both sides. There are 1,312 service lines with unknown material status that must be classified to zero by November 2027.
  • Field inspections: A total of 55 customer-side inspections were completed; 6 were confirmed as lead. Self-reporting by residents using scratch tests was encouraged but yielded few responses.
  • Predictive modeling: A subconsultant (Blue Conduit) is building a statistical model using records, assessments, and field data to assign materials to unknown lines. To achieve the required 95% confidence interval, 100 homes will be selected for “swordfishing” – inserting a probe into the service line to measure electrical resistance and determine material. If needed, an additional 50 homes may be inspected. Swordfishing is scheduled for July–August 2025, with modeling completion expected by September 2025.
  • Timeline: A complete inventory with zero unknowns must be submitted to the New York State Department of Health (NYSDOH) by November 1, 2027. Simultaneously, a 10-year replacement plan (2027–2037) must be submitted, requiring on average 10% replacement per year of all lead and galvanized steel requiring replacement (GSLR) lines.
  • Budget: $246,000 has been approved for phases 1–6 (complete) and phase 7 (underway). For the next fiscal year (June 2025–May 2026), an additional $139,000–$189,000 is needed for phases 8–13, including the swordfishing, predictive modeling, annual notifications, and preparation of the replacement and sampling plans. Funds would come from the water fund.
  • Estimated replacement costs (public side only): Low estimate $325,000 (if no more lead found), likeliest $1.34 million (134 service lines at 5.3% lead rate), high estimate $2.4 million (196 service lines at 10% lead rate). Private side costs would likely double these figures if the village administers the entire replacement and back-charges homeowners. Homeowners have the option to hire their own contractor for the private side, but coordination challenges were noted.
  • Regulatory context: Carr noted that NYSDOH may introduce additional tap sampling requirements for schools and child care facilities, but guidance remains unclear. The EPA mandates apply nationwide, but there is uncertainty about enforcement and potential rule changes under the current administration.
  • Trustee comment: Trustee Johnny Ham expressed frustration that Pleasantville is being proactive while other municipalities may delay and later receive grants or avoid penalties. He suggested waiting and proceeding cautiously. Mayor Sheer acknowledged the concern but emphasized the village cannot willfully violate a federal drinking water mandate.
  • Next steps: Carr will obtain the list of 100 addresses for swordfishing and order water meters in advance. The board may authorize the expenditures in a future meeting. Quarterly updates were proposed.

Key Outcomes

  • No formal votes were taken during the work session. The board heard the update and will consider authorizing the next phase of funding (up to $189,000) at a regular meeting.
  • The work session was followed by an executive session at 8:30 PM to discuss real property matters (no transcript provided).

Meeting Transcript

All right, welcome to the work session for Tuesday, May 27. First and primary item on our work session is our DBW superintendent and village engineer Anthony Carr talking about the lead service line project. Welcome, Anthony. Thank you, Mayor Board Eric. I hope everybody had a nice memorial day. Hopefully found some time to relax and unwind, especially with the next win. So you got I am now a believer and converted into basketball. So thank you, Mayor and Eric for that. All right. Well, well, we got another one tonight. I know. They did. Okay. In crazy fashion. It's sufficient. Sufficient craziness that I was actually in bed and got up again and came downstairs. All right. All right. Um, do you have a copy of the presentation that uh Eric that you could share the screen? I have a copy in my hand, and I can go through slide by slide. Uh, I plan to only give an overview of each slide. Obviously, if you have any questions or you want to interrupt, please feel free. Uh, some of the slides you probably have seen before. You may not remember all the information. Uh, there's been some changes to some slides, uh, but the purpose of tonight's update is just to provide the mayor, may you mayor and board and eric with just a brief update of what we've completed to date, uh, what we're working on now, and and steps to follow. All right, are you gonna share it, Eric? I don't think I have that file. Do I it should be attached to the work site? I do not see that it is. Oh, uh here, I will probably easier, but I want to just the cover page. Thank you, Eric. No problem. Or to use your emailing, yeah. And I will also attach okay. All right, there we go. Okay, uh, mayor, we can skip past the uh the introduction slide and start on slide two. Perfect. And then when we provide we progress to the next slide, I'll just say next slide just so for everyone's awareness. So you might have seen this before, you probably recall it, uh, but just high level. That schematic is a diagram basically that delineates the public and private sides of a water service line, public being village owned, private being customer owned. And that that delineation uh occurs at what you see in the diagram known as a curb stop or the municipal shutoff valve.

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