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Pleasantville Village Board Work Session on Debt Service and Pool Financing - September 9, 2025

Village Board of Trustees & Boards — Tuesday, September 9, 2025
BodyPleasantville, New York
SessionVillage Board of Trustees & Boards
DateTuesday, September 9, 2025
StatusFILED
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Speaker 1

0:07

All right, good evening and welcome.

0:08

Today is Monday, August 25, and uh we're beginning the work session for the Village of Pleasantville.

0:14

Uh, the primary subject of the first half hour of our uh session is to consider our long term debt and the question of what we want to do with the six million dollar bond anticipation note that we took

Unassigned speaker

0:30

out

Speaker 1

0:30

uh to fund the new pool, which can now be rolled into permanent financing or into another bond anticipation note.

0:38

So there are a bunch of variables to consider along the way.

0:41

So 706, we plan about 730 to depart into executive session uh on matters of real estate and personnel, and then to return a date for our regular

Unassigned speaker

0:51

meeting.

Speaker 1

0:53

So um

Unassigned speaker

0:55

let

Speaker 1

0:56

me just share my story here.

1:19

Okay, I've achieved that.

1:24

I think I can see that a guy of your age needs to sit closer, Mr.

1:30

Cunningham.

1:31

I have good vision, but Jesus.

1:33

All right, hold on.

1:33

What can I do about that?

1:34

Can I improve the size of that?

Speaker 2

1:38

Can't make

Speaker 1

1:39

the window bigger for some reason.

1:44

Is that the size of the zoom window that you established?

1:48

No, Eric.

1:50

No, you can't make that go full screen.

Speaker 3

1:52

No.

Unassigned speaker

1:53

So

Speaker 1

1:53

if I go full screen.

1:58

Nothing is achieved.

Unassigned speaker

2:03

And

Speaker 4

2:04

then you're not sharing any.

2:05

So

Speaker 5

2:05

he's saying he's saying there's a quarter of a point savings by doing a 15-year bond

Speaker 3

2:09

with seven years of call protection versus yeah, that's very simple.

2:14

Based on what they've gone out recently with.

Speaker 6

2:18

20

Speaker 3

2:19

base points in

Speaker 6

2:20

on the agenda.

2:23

That's a

Speaker 5

2:25

it was a substantive gap.

2:31

Did you say that you they did

Speaker 6

2:32

a

Speaker 5

2:32

20-year zone?

2:34

4%

Speaker 1

2:34

or all final.

2:35

Okay, 4.03 by a week ago.

2:38

Okay.

2:38

All right.

2:39

Sorry for that's a little bit hard to read, but um, here's the short-term breeding.

2:43

So um our uh bond council has prepared a number of projections showing us the very various options.

2:52

So if you make the assumption that we're seeking to refinance a six million dollar bond anticipation note that we currently have, which comes due in October, end of October, right?

3:04

Um, he showed us uh three options.

3:08

Uh a six million dollar nineteen year bond, a six million dollar fifteen-year bond, or a six million dollar bond anticipation note.

3:20

In other words, rolling over the temporary financing into another year of temporary financing.

3:26

So uh, based on the current rates, he reports that the 15-year bonds he's estimating 4.05%, 19 euro bonds 4.25% to the extent that one can read any tea leaves in the muddled world in which we live.

3:45

Uh, there is some suggestion at least that the Fed might modestly reduce interest rates at the end of the quarter.

3:53

Is that what you're hearing?

3:54

Jonathan coming in.

3:55

Yeah, right.

3:56

I mean, that's um who knows.

3:59

So one tweet away from being that's the opposite.

4:02

But that um six million dollar 15-year bond would cost us $544,000 a year in debt service.

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Summary of Proceedings

Pleasantville Village Board Work Session on Debt Service and Pool Financing - September 9, 2025

Note on meeting date: Although the official date provided for this summary is September 9, 2025, the transcript and agenda indicate the meeting actually took place on Monday, August 25, 2025. This discrepancy is noted for accuracy.

The Village Board of Trustees held a work session primarily to discuss long-term debt options for the $6 million bond anticipation note (BAN) used to finance the new community pool, which matures at the end of October 2025. The board considered three options: a 20-year bond, a 15-year bond, or rolling over the BAN for another year. After detailed analysis and input from former Trustee Jonathan Bond, the board leaned toward issuing permanent 15-year bonds. The session also included brief updates on sidewalk and crosswalk work, red light camera legislation, and a visit from a local Boy Scout observing the meeting.

Discussion Items

  • Debt Service and Pool Financing Options: The board reviewed projections from bond counsel comparing a $6 million 20-year bond (estimated interest rate 4.25%), a 15-year bond (estimated 4.05%), and a one-year BAN renewal (estimated 4.00% with principal paydown). The 20-year bond would cost approximately $461,000 per year in debt service, while the 15-year bond would cost $544,000 per year—a difference of about $83,000 annually. Total interest over the life of the 15-year bond was estimated at $2.4 million versus $3.0 million for the 20-year bond, saving roughly $600,000.
  • Considerations: The board discussed the trade-offs: locking in historically low rates with a 15-year bond (with 7-year call protection) versus the uncertainty of future rate movements. Jonathan Bond, former trustee, recommended rolling into a 15-year bond, noting that rates are asymmetrically low and could rise significantly. He also suggested a conversation with Moody's to gauge their view on fund balance levels.
  • Budget Impact: To neutralize the higher annual cost of the 15-year bond in the short term, the board discussed using $80,000 per year from fund balance for the first several years, a strategy that would be easier as other village debts retire in fiscal years 2028-2030.
  • Additional Updates: Trustee Eric reported that work on removing old pedestrian signal bases and replacing sidewalk panels along the corridor would begin soon. Crosswalk refreshing on Manville Road requires a third-party vendor to meet DOT standards. Red light camera legislation is awaiting the governor's signature.

Key Outcomes

  • Decision on Pool Financing: The board reached consensus to finance the pool with a 15-year bond, pending final approval at a future regular meeting. The motion was informal; a formal vote will follow. The decision aligns with the recommendation to secure lower total interest costs while maintaining budget flexibility.
  • Next Steps: The bond issuance is to be confirmed within approximately two weeks. Bond counsel will proceed with documentation. The board also agreed to schedule a conversation with Moody's rating agency to discuss fund balance and debt strategies.
  • Executive Session: At approximately 7:30 PM, the board entered executive session to discuss real property and personnel matters, with no actions reported afterward.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • No public comments were made during the open portion of the work session. A Boy Scout from Troop 12 attended to observe the meeting as part of his scouting requirements; the mayor offered to help arrange future opportunities to observe public debate on contentious issues.

Meeting Transcript

All right, good evening and welcome. Today is Monday, August 25, and uh we're beginning the work session for the Village of Pleasantville. Uh, the primary subject of the first half hour of our uh session is to consider our long term debt and the question of what we want to do with the six million dollar bond anticipation note that we took out uh to fund the new pool, which can now be rolled into permanent financing or into another bond anticipation note. So there are a bunch of variables to consider along the way. So 706, we plan about 730 to depart into executive session uh on matters of real estate and personnel, and then to return a date for our regular meeting. So um let me just share my story here. Okay, I've achieved that. I think I can see that a guy of your age needs to sit closer, Mr. Cunningham. I have good vision, but Jesus. All right, hold on. What can I do about that? Can I improve the size of that? Can't make the window bigger for some reason. Is that the size of the zoom window that you established? No, Eric. No, you can't make that go full screen. No. So if I go full screen. Nothing is achieved. And then you're not sharing any. So he's saying he's saying there's a quarter of a point savings by doing a 15-year bond with seven years of call protection versus yeah, that's very simple. Based on what they've gone out recently with. 20 base points in on the agenda. That's a it was a substantive gap. Did you say that you they did a 20-year zone? 4% or all final. Okay, 4.03 by a week ago. Okay. All right. Sorry for that's a little bit hard to read, but um, here's the short-term breeding. So um our uh bond council has prepared a number of projections showing us the very various options. So if you make the assumption that we're seeking to refinance a six million dollar bond anticipation note that we currently have, which comes due in October, end of October, right? Um, he showed us uh three options.

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