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Listening Session on Sphere National Harbor Project - September 22, 2026

County Council & Boards — Tuesday, September 22, 2026
BodyPrince Georges County, Maryland
SessionCounty Council & Boards
DateTuesday, September 22, 2026
StatusFILED
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0:00

All right, are we good with AV?

0:02

Okay, awesome.

0:05

I want to thank everyone for attending today's listening session.

0:10

Um, so we uh have hosted a few listening sessions this past year.

0:16

Um, usually they're in the community across the county on different topics.

0:20

Um, but today, because this topic is one that's so important, um, especially to my councilmember um district eight member, councilmember Burroughs, but to all of the residents of the county.

0:32

It was important that we wanted to host an opportunity for you all to one speak um to us um to hear uh the presentation from the sphere, the analysis from our team.

0:45

Um so this is a listening session.

0:47

Um so we're not sitting in our official capacity as a county council.

0:52

We can't take any action at this time in any way.

0:55

Um it's one of the reasons why we won't call roll.

0:58

Um we don't have to have a quorum.

0:59

And it's really a listening session.

1:01

So that's the posture we will be in.

1:03

Um we will listen to the sphere, we'll listen to staff, and then more importantly, we're gonna listen to the residents of Prince Jurtis County.

1:10

This will allow us to have as much information as possible as we continue to have uh council committee sessions and hearings and ultimately take a final vote.

1:20

Uh I'll just say as the chair and speak for the body that we are excited about the opportunity of new development uh coming to Prince Rose County.

1:27

And you know, at want to thank the county executive and the governor for the work that they did um to not only bring this to the state of Maryland, but bring this opportunity here to Prince George's County.

1:38

Uh, but what's really important to us when we look at new development is that we want to make sure that we central um the needs and the priorities of residents of Prince George's County.

1:50

And so for us, we're looking to make sure that our residents that are most impacted that live in the vicinity, that their voices are heard, that we have a strong community benefits agreement that centers them.

2:02

We want to make sure that our small minority businesses right here in Prince George's County are at the center of this opportunity.

2:11

Because when you're talking about billions of dollars being spent, um, we want to make sure that we're elevating locally owned and operated businesses and centering our minority businesses, black and brown businesses in a way that historically we not have we have not seen.

2:26

We also want to make sure that our labor partners have a seat at the table.

2:31

It's important um that there's living wage, the health standards, everything that we want to see happen on a project when it comes to how our labor force is treated, is what we want to see as the gold standard.

2:46

We also want to make sure that we hire local residents, right?

2:50

It's not about only centering the businesses, it's also centering the day-to-day work, not just in the construction phase, but in the operating phase, also centers residents right here in Prince Jordis County getting a piece of the pie.

3:04

And lastly, when we look at the community benefits agreement, we want to make sure that everything that's promised to the community that's going to be a positive impact is clear, that the residents have a clear understanding of what it's going to mean, and that it's actualized.

3:16

And that if we're committing a dollar of revenue from the taxpayers, that we're doing it thoughtfully and considering and considering all aspects.

3:26

So I just want everyone to be assured that is the top priority of our county executive and the top priority of this county council.

3:33

So I thank everyone for being part of this listening tour for the excuse me, this listening session.

3:38

For the agenda today, we will be hearing from SPHER.

3:41

Uh, then we'll have a brief presentation from our legislative staff and their analysis, and then the most important part will be the community.

3:50

As mentioned before, we have a sign-up sheet.

3:52

Um, so if you are in our overflow, you do have to come down to this session to sign up to um be heard to speak.

4:00

Uh you'll have two minutes.

4:02

If this is their first time joining us, there'll be a clock, there'll be a buzzer.

4:06

I will gently nudge you to finish.

4:09

Um, but we probably have a lot of people that want to be heard.

4:11

And so um, as many know that have come to listening sessions, I sit in the seat till everyone's done talking.

4:18

Um, but uh we all want to go home at a reasonable time, right?

4:22

Um, so I just thank you all for attending.

4:25

Uh and then we'll be uh adjourned.

4:28

And so I will now pass it on to I don't know if Tracy, you wanted to do introductions or thank you.

4:37

Thank you, Madam Chair.

4:38

Tracy Benjamin, Deputy Chief Administrative Officer for Economic Development, and I am very excited and happy to be here today as we listen to the public's concerns regarding the sphere.

4:50

Uh and with that, I will turn it over to Mr.

4:54

Paul Mikia Makia.

4:56

I'm sorry if I pronounced it difficult.

5:04

Good afternoon, everybody, or I should say good evening.

5:08

Yeah, I know I just apologize that look this way, not that way for our comments, but thank you all for coming out.

5:15

Thank you to the County Exec's Office for their partnership.

5:18

Thanks to the council for your invitation to come tonight and talk to all of you.

5:21

My name is Paul Macchia.

5:23

Most people don't pronounce it right, so don't worry about it.

5:26

I'm the senior vice president for government affairs and social impact with Sphere Entertainment.

5:31

With me today is a Hannah Dugan, the senior manager in the government affairs department, Alan Case and the partner at McGuire Woods, and Guterro Aurelian, a partner at Venable.

5:41

First, let me say how excited we are as a company about partnering with all of you in Prince George's County.

5:47

We think this county is the perfect community for this project, and we think National Harbor is the perfect location for a world-class venue like Sphere.

5:55

In every community where we operate, we strive to be good neighbors.

5:58

So sphere will not only bring significant economic benefit and jobs, but we're also committed to supporting your community.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Economic Development█████████████████████████████████████████████54%
Community Engagement███████████13%
Workforce Development██████████12%
Transportation Safety█████6%
Fiscal Sustainability████5%
Procedural███3%
Infrastructure██2%
Personnel Matters██2%
Environmental Protection█1%
Summary of Proceedings

Listening Session on Sphere National Harbor Project - September 22, 2026

The Prince George's County Council held a listening session on September 22, 2026, at the County Administration Building in Largo, Maryland, to gather public input on the proposed Sphere entertainment venue at National Harbor. Council Chair Krystal Oriadha opened the session, emphasizing that the council was in a listening posture and could not take any action that evening. Presentations were given by MSG Sphere Entertainment and council staff, followed by over 40 registered public speakers. The project involves a 6,000-seat, 302-foot-tall sphere-shaped venue with immersive technology, projected to cost $1.4 billion, with $130 million in county tax increment financing (TIF) and a $40 million county-owned parking garage.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Support with conditions: Many union representatives and members (carpenters, painters, hospitality workers) expressed conditional support, urging the council to require a Project Labor Agreement (PLA) and labor peace agreements before approving public subsidies. Speakers such as Lamar Motts (Eastern Atlantic States Regional Council of Carpenters) and David Washington (carpenter) highlighted the need for strong labor standards, local hiring, registered apprenticeships, and prevailing wages. Stacey Hartwell (environmental advocate) raised concerns about electricity grid impact, transportation, and lack of mass transit. Patricia Monroe (South Lawn Citizens Association) called for a community benefits fund of at least $5 million, local hiring at 50%, and environmental impact studies. Sharon Lawrence (Livingston Woods HOA) requested a community suite, ticket revenue sharing, and road improvements before construction.
  • Opposition: Some residents opposed the project entirely. Darlene Rainey argued the county should prioritize schools, healthcare, and churches over entertainment. Robin Bates asked for a delay, citing insufficient community engagement and unresolved traffic and cost issues. Imania Price called the project "tone-deaf" and questioned its environmental and aesthetic fit. Christopher Goins opposed what he called the "Abu Dhabiization" of the community and urged economic development from within.
  • Support with urgency: Delegate Jamila Woods (District 26) spoke in favor but urged labor agreements. Danny Moore King emphasized the project as a transformative legacy opportunity, warning that failure could harm the county's reputation. Aaron Charles (National Harbor resident) highlighted the value of shared community experiences. Darrell Morrison (former town council member) supported with a call for 40% minority contracting.
  • State and business perspectives: Deputy Secretary of Commerce Stephen Rice voiced strong state support, citing $1.85 billion in economic impact during construction and $1.5 billion annually after opening. Matt Teffaro (Associated Builders and Contractors) opposed a PLA, arguing 90% of the county's workforce is non-union and a PLA would limit competition. Several business owners and residents spoke in favor, contingent on addressing traffic, local hiring, and community benefits.

Discussion Items

  • Sphere Entertainment Presentation: Paul Macchia, Senior VP, described the venue's technology (16K screen, beam-forming sound, 4D effects), economic projections from an Ernst & Young study, and community programs (digital tech training, exosphere local artist program). He stated Sphere Las Vegas generated $4.5 billion in economic impact in 2025, and the National Harbor venue would support 3,300 construction jobs and 7,000 operational jobs in Prince George's County, with over $60 million in annual tax revenue for the county. Macchia emphasized the company's union-friendly history and commitment to local hiring.
  • Council Staff Presentation: Marianne Albear, Director of Legislative Impact, provided a high-level overview of costs, financing, and unknowns. Key points: the $1.4 billion cost does not include furniture, fixtures, and equipment (FF&E) which could add 5–25%; the $130 million TIF results in approximately $400 million in principal and debt service through 2056; estimated annual tax revenue is $63 million (county and other jurisdictions), but net fiscal benefit requires subtracting debt service and costs for police, fire, EMS, road improvements, etc. She noted the Las Vegas Sphere's final cost nearly doubled from $1.2 billion to $2.3 billion, raising questions about who bears cost overruns. Albear outlined outstanding issues: need for a strong, measurable Community Benefits Agreement (CBA), minimum revenue guarantees, timeline for break-even, and transportation coordination.
  • Council Chair Remarks: Chair Oriadha reiterated the council's priorities: centering residents most impacted, strong CBA, support for local minority-owned businesses, living wage and labor standards, local hiring in both construction and operations, and clear, actualized commitments. She clarified that the $63 million tax revenue figure includes projected additional revenue from the project, not solely Sphere taxes. She also corrected a misconception that the final vote would occur next week, stating the process would include further committee sessions and a public hearing before a vote likely in October.

Key Outcomes

  • No formal votes or decisions were made at this listening session.
  • The council will hold additional committee sessions and a public hearing before a final vote, expected in October 2026.
  • Council staff will provide a detailed revenue breakdown comparing full projected revenue versus taxes specifically from Sphere, and further refine cost-benefit analysis.
  • The council will continue negotiations with Sphere Entertainment on labor agreements, community benefits, and financing terms. Several speakers urged the council to mandate a PLA and labor peace agreements as conditions for TIF approval.
  • County agencies will be engaged to estimate costs for additional public services (police, fire, EMS, sanitation) and infrastructure improvements (roads, transit).

Meeting Transcript

All right, are we good with AV? Okay, awesome. I want to thank everyone for attending today's listening session. Um, so we uh have hosted a few listening sessions this past year. Um, usually they're in the community across the county on different topics. Um, but today, because this topic is one that's so important, um, especially to my councilmember um district eight member, councilmember Burroughs, but to all of the residents of the county. It was important that we wanted to host an opportunity for you all to one speak um to us um to hear uh the presentation from the sphere, the analysis from our team. Um so this is a listening session. Um so we're not sitting in our official capacity as a county council. We can't take any action at this time in any way. Um it's one of the reasons why we won't call roll. Um we don't have to have a quorum. And it's really a listening session. So that's the posture we will be in. Um we will listen to the sphere, we'll listen to staff, and then more importantly, we're gonna listen to the residents of Prince Jurtis County. This will allow us to have as much information as possible as we continue to have uh council committee sessions and hearings and ultimately take a final vote. Uh I'll just say as the chair and speak for the body that we are excited about the opportunity of new development uh coming to Prince Rose County. And you know, at want to thank the county executive and the governor for the work that they did um to not only bring this to the state of Maryland, but bring this opportunity here to Prince George's County. Uh, but what's really important to us when we look at new development is that we want to make sure that we central um the needs and the priorities of residents of Prince George's County. And so for us, we're looking to make sure that our residents that are most impacted that live in the vicinity, that their voices are heard, that we have a strong community benefits agreement that centers them. We want to make sure that our small minority businesses right here in Prince George's County are at the center of this opportunity. Because when you're talking about billions of dollars being spent, um, we want to make sure that we're elevating locally owned and operated businesses and centering our minority businesses, black and brown businesses in a way that historically we not have we have not seen. We also want to make sure that our labor partners have a seat at the table. It's important um that there's living wage, the health standards, everything that we want to see happen on a project when it comes to how our labor force is treated, is what we want to see as the gold standard. We also want to make sure that we hire local residents, right? It's not about only centering the businesses, it's also centering the day-to-day work, not just in the construction phase, but in the operating phase, also centers residents right here in Prince Jordis County getting a piece of the pie. And lastly, when we look at the community benefits agreement, we want to make sure that everything that's promised to the community that's going to be a positive impact is clear, that the residents have a clear understanding of what it's going to mean, and that it's actualized. And that if we're committing a dollar of revenue from the taxpayers, that we're doing it thoughtfully and considering and considering all aspects. So I just want everyone to be assured that is the top priority of our county executive and the top priority of this county council. So I thank everyone for being part of this listening tour for the excuse me, this listening session. For the agenda today, we will be hearing from SPHER. Uh, then we'll have a brief presentation from our legislative staff and their analysis, and then the most important part will be the community. As mentioned before, we have a sign-up sheet. Um, so if you are in our overflow, you do have to come down to this session to sign up to um be heard to speak. Uh you'll have two minutes. If this is their first time joining us, there'll be a clock, there'll be a buzzer. I will gently nudge you to finish. Um, but we probably have a lot of people that want to be heard. And so um, as many know that have come to listening sessions, I sit in the seat till everyone's done talking. Um, but uh we all want to go home at a reasonable time, right? Um, so I just thank you all for attending. Uh and then we'll be uh adjourned. And so I will now pass it on to I don't know if Tracy, you wanted to do introductions or thank you. Thank you, Madam Chair. Tracy Benjamin, Deputy Chief Administrative Officer for Economic Development, and I am very excited and happy to be here today as we listen to the public's concerns regarding the sphere. Uh and with that, I will turn it over to Mr. Paul Mikia Makia. I'm sorry if I pronounced it difficult. Good afternoon, everybody, or I should say good evening. Yeah, I know I just apologize that look this way, not that way for our comments, but thank you all for coming out.

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